The prism that deflects the laser consists of 2 parts, which are connected with an adhesive. Unfortunately, the glue dissolves over the years and the laser can no longer focus. The matching pickup is a Phillips VAL6011/01 SPU3141. You can buy it online for 20 bucks. Greetings from Germany 🍻👍
It looks a really well made machine.It makes you so happy when you see things made in your own country. You get an idea about products when you see screws in the remote control and it made out of metal. I hope you find the part you need, it looks worth fixing.
What an incredible machine! Everything laid out so nice inside. Never seen something like that before. Built like a tank, all metal, even the remote is built like a tank! Hopefully it can be made to work again with a new pickup, it would be interesting to see it work and to preserve it. I bet this cost a very pretty penny when new!
Being from eastern Canada I seen Classé Audio before they are know in the high end world. I love the sound of their amplifiers. This pick up is made by Philips hope the owner try to find one and repair this beautiful DVD/CD player.
The JASON on the PCB is July August September October November. I bet there is a D for December under the sticker. Very nicely made, it's nice seeing things built properly and not mass produced rubbish with cheap PCBs. My Naim Amplifier is of a similar build quality. And in all fairness all the Arcam stuff I've worked on is built very well too. The best CD mechanisms I have worked on were the Philips CDM Pro units on jukeboxes. Those were built like tanks.
And here I caught someone else who didn't get the joke. Of course it's the months. 16 years ago I was on lock out at work the lock out went from July through November we named it Jason.
@@dalerobinsuk in a unionized company, when contract negotiations break down the union is in a strike position. We never took a strike vote and nobody walked off the job. The union was trying to negotiate a stalemate with the company over language in the contract. This had been simmering for longer than i had been with the company and we had been working without a contract for 5 years. The company locked us out and forced us onto a picket line for 5 months. That is how long they kept us off the job. It was down to specific language in the contract. It had nothing to do with money. Before the lock out there were thousands in signing bonuses offered but they were rejected on principle because it was never about money. Just language in the contract. I will leave it at that. Other union members reading this will know exactly what I am talking about. This is exactly why we need unions to keep companies on the straight and narrow. Otherwise you have companies doing what happens to so many young workers. As soon as they have enough time in a company to progress up the wage scale, their hours are cut way back and another kid making minimum wage replaces them. I know so many people whos kids are in that exact situation. Cut their hours so much they are forced to quit and find another job.
Yes they're still in business they are now sister companies to Denon and Marantz. Owned by sound United most not all is made in the Denon Factory in Japan along with Marantz and Denon high-end products. Sound United also owns Bowers & Wilkins Polk and Definitive Technology speakers. If you go to sound United training RU-vid channel they feature their different brands along with classe but they are still in Canada as far as engineering I think
Very well made, i bet that cost a heap of cash. Neat pcbs and no mess, i like the power supply. I would write down any numbers on the dual optical block, it must have been used in more than just one deck.
the brand is well known in high end audio, I have yet to hear any of their products, I could hear the pride in your introduction to this vid Dave which I think is great
This may sound crazy but I have seen a few DVD and computer drive transports that will not even try to focus if it doesn't detect the inertia of a disc on the spindle. When it tries to spin, if the spindle motor doesn't pull enough current it will assume there is no disc. You can see the quick spin and then it pulses before it stops. Sometimes you can trick it by pressing your finger on the clamp with just enough force as it is spinning to make it think it is trying to spin up a disc. Another option would be to put in a clear dummy disc like you find at the bottom of a spindle of blank CDs. Might be worth a try.
I thought the little Dorchester record players I had when I was a kid... were the only electronics made in the great white north...great video pal... would love to see this repaired
Nice, but are the buttons on the remote metal too like old B&O stuff? initial impressions are very nice, just over a minute in & it just looks quality. Hope you can get it fixed, I see in the comments about the optical block so guessing it's done the lens drop. MMP Exploration did comment that you can get a replacement and I quote " Philips VAL6011/01 SPU3141" for about $20 so hopeful that it's not a lost cause. Certainly think the rarity value would make it a viable repair if nothing else.
Thanks Dave. I learned a lot, even though you weren't able to fix it. At least you know what it needs. I have a feeling there's a optical pickup with your name out there....somewhere.
I would take a better look at the flat cable to the laser block. In the shine of the light it looks like it has some abnormalities, and it is the only moving electronic part, and rubs a bit.. But the camera can lie to us...
Odd ball screws to me is a sign of meddling by someone in the past... a company with that kind of reputation and quality would not just use any ole screws they had lying around to assemble a product...
I have similar problem with same laser in Bang & Olufsen - DVD1 (4620) The laser starts, everything works for some seconds then laser stops… Any ideas? Maybe bad caps?
Nice build, probably the more expensive units are built like this. Any thoughts about the early 2000's Onkyo amps, saw one at my local electronics repair guys and they sound decent, wondering if Yamaha, Sony or Technics made nice equipment in those days and if they do now.
Is it really canadian though, if it's not using Robertson screws? :P When you started showing the different screw heads for the disc mechanism I was hoping you'd find a Robertson one ;)
Last time any Canadian Electronic firm used Robertson fasteners was about 1978/79. Infinity and PSB might be using Robertson fasteners to close up their cabinets.
You see it in every video. That is it a work bench in my garage. The rest is just storage of stuff in for repair and repaired stuff of mine awaiting disposal (sale or recycle)
It's really unlikely for both lasers to be damaged. I would start from checking voltage on laser diodes and going backwards from there. I suspect it's faulty servo DSP chip.
No laser light there won't be any servo operation. The ir laser should have been so bright in the ir camera. I will do a short video to show what a functional laser looks like on the camera.
I won't because I am not in the business and have no intention of working on smd crap. I retired 18 years ago and have no interest in doing this at any more than a hobby level now and i am very quick to wash my hands on modern crap. V
@@12voltvids I Think It's Fun When I Can Fix My Own Stuff. Cause It Builds My Caricter & It Also Gives Me Alot Of Confidence In Myself & I Can Say I Fixed It I Did It On My Own. & That Makes Me Feel Good.
@@12voltvids Now That The Led TV's Came Out They Don't Need All That High Voltage To Run The Display. Which Makes It Alot Safer To Work On. People Can't Believe That I Can Fix Stuff Like Transister Radios & Small Battery Powered TV's. I Ever Pick Up Portable Electronics At Thrift stores To See If They Work Or Not. If Not Then I Take Them Apart To Check For Loose Or Bad Components.
I love this high end equipment myself. it looks very cool and generally has very high quality components that give it them a sound all their own. To those that think vinyl sounds better than a cd, well those people have never heard a properly designed cd player.
Dave the User Manual is available free online. It says this has a Disc Authorized to play function for Parental Control. If a disc is not authorized it will be Locked out and you can't play it. It can remember up to 50 discs at a time that are authorized. There is a Forgotten PIN reset procedure in the manual.
Here is from the Manual - 6.1.5.3 FORGOTTEN PIN If you forget your Parental Control PIN, you can de-activate Parental Control completely. Insert a disc that requires the PIN. When the OSD asks for a PIN press the STOP key four times in quick succession. All disks will play until you re-activate the PIN number and re-mark the discs you wish to be playable without entering a PIN.
Amazon has B07FBG3D5Z which says DVD Optical Pickup for CLASSE Audio CD/DVD-1 CDDVD-1 DVD Laser Lens (it doesn't have a source for sale, but there might be some info in there to help track one down)
I have the manual, but I don't think that is the issue as it is not asking for a PIN. It doesn't even read the TOC. If you look at a laser pickup with an IR camera (night shot on) the IR laser will literally blind the camera. It is like shining a bright flashlight at it. Looks like it scans IR laser first to check a disk present, once it detects a disk attemps to focus, if no focus it then turns on the red DVD laser. The reason is so CDR disks will be detected, as the red DVD laser will not detect CDR. The red DVD laser may in fact work,but it will never attempt to read the disk of the unit errors out. I am sure if a pickup can be sourced it will be replaced as this is one that is definitely worth fixing. If it was mine I certainly would be looking for the parts, as it is very cool looking and those Burr Brown DACs are going to sound sweet. Like my Sony CDPX555ES. Thats another heavy duty player worth trying to source parts for.
@@12voltvids Not sure if it should ask for a PIN the way its described.. it seems to be more along the lines of "Do Not Play unless Allowed". Procedure was simple enough, insert Dis-Allowed DVD, press STOP four times. - I'd give it a try. It might not activate the Normal Pickup LED if it has its own method of reading with an optochip independent of the Pickup... say from underneath. Its very much a Custom job, I wouldn't expect it to behave like the Mainstream products. If they did use a separate optochip to read the barcode on the Inner ring, then placing it underneath out of the way of the Normal pickup servo would make sense.. and then you wouldn't see it. It might not even be In-fared, but visable or something less DVD-Forum specified. - Scratched my head on why it would be so simple to by-pass PIN, but if your used to using the Remote like a Kid, using the STOP button on the case may be obscure enough that they would never try try it.
I was being sarcastic. At work years ago we were on strike from July till November. We named the event "Jason" for July August September October November.
I have a question for you, Dave ! On the CD Players or CD technology, there the pots for the adjustment of laser unit. "F.BIAS, F.GAIN, TRACKING GAIN, TRACKING OFFSET"... so many names! There is an official list for these pots label and what are the differences? Thank you and take care, Dave!
All those parameters you mentioned was widely used on older machines that didn´t have digital servo ICs that auto-adjust all of them for you. But each of these settings can be tweaked to optimize the reading capability of the optical pickup. But I warn you that the optimal setting can only be accomplished by using an analog oscilloscope, user should not try to mess with them without proper instruction or may permanently damage the laser assembly.
Class a note the mark over the e . From the history of the company first built a class A 25 watt amp. It is a very bad look when google is not used before making comments about a company .
Just curious is that an infrared laser? I tried to check a Sony cd player which is supposed to be infrared but my Sony handycam in nightshot sees no light from the laser yet the cd player works fine.
Hmm, Classe, finally some Hi-End. Too bad the pickup is done - no idea who made them. Best was to call Classe in Montreal directly. Dave you got kind of lucky finding the schematics for it, often there is nothing available for Hi-End audio units. Also Bryston, SimaAudio - Made in Canada. 20yrs warranty on Bryston amps, I know a few people who own them. For Sima one has sent faulty unit to manufacturer for repair. BTW, my regular Pioneer DVD is slowly dying as well, I guess 15+yrs is max they can last.
Looks like it uses a Philips CD/DVD drive, something possibly similar to this: www.ebay.com/itm/281824604614?hash=item419e0e31c6:g:~eEAAMXQCgpRvYHj Of course, you'll probably want to find a seller in Canada rather than one based in Miami, FL.
I have the first CD burner ever made for home use (CDE-102) fron Yamaha. Same issue... Laser radiation not correctly aligned cause by a prism. There is no way to fix this, unfortunately. What a shame :(.
Remote made of metal ? Not a great idea: heavy, prone to falling and getting damaged (i think remote are made of plastic for a reason). It is always funny to see such high end players use cheap plastic transport. As an example Compare the disc drawer to any Sony from the 90's and it is embarrassing; it looks like the kind of transport you can easily find in any cheap DVD player.
@@roetsj I'm a big fan of Philips in general and Philips transport, but from CDM12.1 onward Philips have gone towards the "cheap" approach: simple and cheap transport that can be replaced as a whole if anything goes wrong. The contemporary Sony transport based on KSS-213C at least looks more solid and "higher" end. Honestly i have yet to see DVD transport that looks like anything made in the early 90's. I have a high end Panasonic DVD from 2000 and it already has a very cheap (and noisy) transport.
I worked on jukeboxes for 20 years when 45s were phased out and CDs came in. I left after the digital boxes came out. They all used Philips players and boards. The first swing arm units were by far the best back in 1989. They had a cast chassis and no gears. The laser was the last thing to fail unless you shorted it during alignment. Later units were plastic gears on a sled. The gears gummed up and lasers crapped out. This was around 1996. Digital came out around 2000 and took over the market in 10 years. They were useless fir the home because you needed a subscription of maybe 100 a month.
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