Hmmm then MAYBE you should do some real looking, Its in many nations from the Eel farmers down south to the grain growers in my mob etc Cleaerly you have no idae.
@@RodneyWilliams-to8jc lol Another coward racsist , It very well did happen and is recorded in many nations Dream Time stores, From Murray Cod famring Cray Fish farming, making dams and our Sky father filling them so we can stock them from rivers miles away. The Ell famring in Vic that built permanant structures in the vulcanic rock, trapped smoked eels then traded them all over. OPEN YOUR EYES EARS stop the racism fear. Dream stime stories of the Rainbow serpant giving the Northern mobs native geese Yams, water bulbs etc etc
I have visited some very progressive museums in this country that have large aboriginal sections and none of them have discussed the practice of sowing and harvesting crops.
@REDFOX393 SMITH because we KNOW its not true? I doesn't make sense in our culture, it doesn't match our morals and beliefs? colonisers also said we weren't human and the land was empty. Maybe not everything they say is true and maybe a lot of it is just based in racism.
@@flud3989 the land was ILLEGALLY declared as "Terra Nullius" even though there was proof of infrastructure and an established society. We are the oldest living culture IN THE WORLD. A society is "the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community." Our communities are extremely complex governing and family systems that range over 300 individual nations throughout Australia and have done so for the past 60000 years.
@Connor Broderick yeah, read the book, because you very obviously don't know what Indigenous Agriculture is, you also don't seem to know anything about Aboriginal culture and skin groups.
@josephsharp5678 How do you know? Aboriginals look white for a reason. Yk, why? The stolen generation, there's many half aboriginals with English blood. There's only 200-300 full aboriginals to this day. They don't even make up 3% of the popularity in Australia.
Tracy Bartram I’ve read the comparisons between what dark emu was supposed to be quoting versus the actual literature that was written by explorers - it’s highly exaggerated and twists the facts. Yes nomadic people can harvest grain etc however it’s wrong where it was saying they were planting crops like farmers. Have you actually read the literature of the explorers that Pascoe claims to be quoting and compared it with his quotes? Provably naht.
So you are saying all of the white explorers and earlier settlers were lying about what they had witnessed? The colonists were brainwashed into believing they were superior, so that gave them the right to the land. By that theory, I guess if china invaded us today, it would be ok because they are more powerful, so they have every right to this land. It's pretty easy to make the aboriginals look primitive when you destroy there homes and crops. It's the oldest play when it comes to war. Why are you scared of the truth. Is it because it goes against what you have been told to believe?
@@samdavis7370 Thank you, I was watching a TV show the other night which also said his grandparents and great grandparents were English? He has the fooled so many people. I believe he is the subject of a two part documentary on the ABC next week! Not surprising the ABC will not declare this or will they? I am aware that two highly qualified Family Researchers have been hired to search his claims out and all is not looking good for him. Why do people do things like this. There is also a book out shortly which exposes him as the fraud they claim he is.
After a but of digging I'd say there us some controversy but to call him a fraud would be disingenuous. Really just a few articles in the Sun saying some dubious claims. As though Ernest and Christopher Giles may not have been siblings they were definitely brothers-in-arms and worked together extensively if nothing else. Horticulture would probably be a better term for the old Aboriginal plant-raising practices but to say fraud just ain't right. It is fair to say his detractors can well publish anything they want without verifying as well...... anyone can say anything after all
@@sahulianhooligan7046 no Sutton and Walshe. Sutton is an anthropologist who has been the leading academic for several successful land rights claims. Walshe is an archaeologist who has spend her life studying pre colonial relics. Jacinta and Warren were just using common sense and experience they never claimed to be experts or academics.
Any one that thinks Bruce's claim about the writings or journals should get hold of these journals, and try to find the passages Bruce claims as his proof. He has trouble getting academics to believe it is code for "the publication failed peer review". Most of the claims are extreme extrapolations at best. And Bruce's indigenous background is a recently acquired Monica, with his actual Ancestory now having been shown to be 100% British
He is a fake as most of their recently discovered dreamtime stories and dot paintings. And, apparently, their smoking ceremonies. We read that they are all false. And Ernie Dingo had a hand in making up some of them.
The truth is Pascoe embellishes what he reads, noting more complicated than that. As for indigenous heritage, a very suspect connection, both sides of his ancestry seem to originate from the UK.That includes the Grandmother (Sarah Mathews) he claimed in 1993 was born in Dudley, South Australia where in reality she was born in Dudley, United Kingdom.
The Explorers came across very few first ones. They never found crops and to survive they killed what ever walked of flew. I read most journeys. Where did he find this
Clearly did not read many, Uni tafe all have many records copies from original. It very well did happen and is recorded in many nations Dream Time stores, From Murray Cod famring Cray Fish farming, making dams and our Sky father filling them so we can stock them from rivers miles away. The Ell famring in Vic that built permanant structures in the vulcanic rock, trapped smoked eels then traded them all over. OPEN YOUR EYES EARS stop the racism fear. Dream stime stories of the Rainbow serpant giving the Northern mobs native geese Yams, water bulbs etc etc
take their land, destroy their crops as wild bushs, force them into deserts where there's far less water than their original homes. Where else do they get food but to hunt and gather?
Hmmm no actualy he made Nothing up. Its all well proven. It very well did happen and is recorded in many nations Dream Time stores, From Murray Cod famring Cray Fish farming, making dams and our Sky father filling them so we can stock them from rivers miles away. The Ell famring in Vic that built permanant structures in the vulcanic rock, trapped smoked eels then traded them all over. OPEN YOUR EYES EARS stop the racism fear. Dream stime stories of the Rainbow serpant giving the Northern mobs native geese Yams, water bulbs etc etc Clearly you lot so Afraid...why?
The introduction to this idiot's book says the profound 'white men look at stars and the aboriginal looks at the space between the stars'. Gooblegook like the rest of the book.
Hi, Folks. Let me see ANY SCIENTIFIC proof of ANY of this MIS-information and I will apologize for this comment. I have wandered around Western Australia from South to North and I have seen some of the rock art in this country. I have also seen just how little the Aboriginal people changed the country and how little indication of their occupancy of said country they left behind. I have seen tidal fish traps constructed of rocks that let tidal water filter in through the rocks and fish swim over the top as the tide rose high enough, only to leave some of the fish stranded on the 'wrong' side of the rock wall as the tide receded. I have seen some of their midden heaps of shellfish shells that indicate a LONG history of collecting and eating these food sources I have seen the etched rock art that can be found in various places in the Pilbara in Western Australia and elsewhere, some of which had great significance for Aboriginal survival by indicating the direction and distance to water NOWHERE have I EVER seen ANY signs of any 'cities' of dwellings or of ANY 'cultivation' or 'farming' of the land beyond the burning off of areas of land before they moved on to follow seasonal changes in the availability of various food sources. What's more, I have NEVER heard any aboriginals even speak of any of the things that Pascoe claims were part of their history. Not ONCE. Not EVER. Just my 0.02. You all have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Hi Deas, I have just received my copy of Peter O'Brien's book 'Bitter Harvest' this book debunks Mr. Pasco's thesis covering his book DARK EMU and what he embellishes by deception.
Aboriginals complain about the high death rate of their people in police custody. But don't ask why there is a high rate of Aborigines in Police custody.
They know more than you do, its that most it is out of their control. Access to education, healthcare, work opportunities, stable families and homes (due to stolen generations etc), and systemic racism all enhancing these harms. Criminals are made by society and its failures... wake up.
Who says I’m a victim? Maybe I’d victimise you aye buddy? Haha and yeah working and prospering on the land that was stolen from the blackfullas that were just trying to get on, Typical victim blaming white boy
@@andrewm3213 do you not understand the effects that colonisation had on the minds of the people, now you make fun of the mess in front of you and feel superior? Shut your hole big hole
This is crazy, I'm from Vanuatu right next to Australia and we have been farming since our ancestors arrived on the islands, they even brought pigs with them. It makes absolutely no sense that they didn't know how to farm, people started farming 10,000 years ago. OFCOURSE they were farming!
people have always gardened the wild, and if one wants to call that farming, then fine.... that's what all creatures do... Agriculture as an Economic Hierarchy is another matter...
@@coreluminous perhaps what he is referring to is increasing the amount of a natural occurring plant in its natural environment. This is the same as what is beginning to emerge from the amazon where they are finding large areas of orchards previously believed to be natural. It depends on what consider agriculture, but if spreading seeds and eradicating other plant life to create a natural orchard is agriculture in its simplest form, then it is not necessarily a great leap to believe it was occurring.
Absolutely, what they are, are survivors….they are the result of the many who tried their best and only the best carried on. Surviving one of the harshest lands on earth, something to be pretty proud about I think…
Bruce Pascoe is lying and it is highlighted in the little synopsis above by Tedx Talks. He claims to have been born in Melbourne, which would make him a part of the Wurundjeri tribe, yet claims to be a member of the Bunurong tribe from the Mornington Peninsula area, as well as Yuin. The Yuin people actually encompass the area on the south coast of NSW, plus claims to be a Tasmanian Aboriginal, this would make him a part of four different tribes according to him, yet claims to have only one Aboriginal ancestor, does not add up. Especially, considering it is well known that Aboriginal tribes often fail to get along. Even worse why is he not using his fame to protect sacred sites in the Yuin area from development by terrible white people. Many Aboriginal Middens have been built on recently in the Yuin area, such as at Dolphin Point, Shoalhaven Heads and Manyana soon more will be covered up for residential development. Why is he not fighting for their protection? For those unaware, a Midden is an ancient Aboriginal occupation site where the remains of meals eaten by ancient Aboriginals remain. They contain the remains of birds, mammals and shellfish. Maybe he has no interest as Middens disprove his claims, they are not found surrounded by huts or stone houses, land that was cleared and used for farming, there are no pens as Pascoe claims for keeping animals. Instead, they display the Aboriginal people were nomadic, moving from place to place depending on the availability of food and water. In the end, this guy will do more harm than good to the Aboriginal people, as many will question claims made by Aboriginal people in the future.
@@Akolgo_islam What if it was said 6 days and 13 hours. Would that be the same kind of status. Explain what you meant by enemy. Who's or why. ??? These are things I need to know.
I agree with growing local crops if there are such viable plants. But this guy is a known fraud cherry picking a small number of quotes, misrepresenting them and then adding his imagination. The big whole in his argument is that if the large fields of crop were true, the Europeans would have been keen to have such crops continue. Food is food after all and in those early days of European settlement, life was tough and food scarce. Another hole is that surely a culture with a strong history of oral story, the indigenous people of these areas themselves would have stories and passed this knowledge down. Where are these stories. I also understand Pascoe to be fully white on all sides of his ancestry, so really he is just a man with a fantasy. Look, I am open minded that there may have been some form of farming, but I wouldn’t trust this dude.
I know just one gem of Aboriginal Australia. It is the Bunya Nut tree. In south east Queensland for thousands of years that common food was traded amongst tribes for hundreds of kilometers away. Just one thing, with profound meaning.
@@totalwater9431 brother written history is only about 5200 years old and we’ve been in Australia for over 80,000 years. There’s a whole bunch of history you probably believe that was written down but was passed on from generation to generation. Remember writ the end of the day we are just really smart animals, every aspect of modern life including documenting history is 100% unnatural
@@totalwater9431 You make a very good point, we can find relics and use anecdotal evidence from multiple sources to make an educated guess at the truth (the more sources the more likely it is to be true). Aboriginals have historically used stories and pictures to depict so unfortunately with the atrocities of the British colonisation a lot of Aboriginal history is lost to wonder. We do have accounts however of British explorers as mentioned in this video who documented what they saw the Aboriginies doing, we can assume that the Aboriginies hadn't just learnt to grow tubers that day, but in fact learnt it over the years. But yeah not everything in history is verifiable. Just like any science we take the most factual information and replace it with any new discoveries that make more sense, in regard to history this ends up being a ton of anecdotal information and educated guesses based on leftover tools/writings/etc. discovered. Aboriginals used to trade in the north with islanders and lower Asian countries too well into modern history which indicates a bit more than just hunter-gather.
@@totalwater9431 mate I'm not here to argue you're bringing a lot of opinion into objective facts. You can't tell me what the British did is not as bad as it was, I'm grateful for the country we have but not proud of how it became colonised. Aboriginal people got along more often than they fought, and even then it was often family feuds in a sense. Aboriginals were been documented trading in the north with islanders what do you mean not really lol?
@@Jlewismedia "Aboriginal people got along more often than they fought" Not necessarily so and how do we know?🦘 Maori tribes fought each other,American Indian tribes fought each other,African tribes fought each other , European tribes same and the evidence is clear that Aboriginals did also. Jardine at Cape York observed the actual extermination of one tribe by it's hostile different clan neighbours. That was no average family feud or skirmish....tragically.
@@reedbender1179 bruh you know some early settlers actually watched documented the Aboriginals. You give me "I know nothing about history beyond year 5 education and believe everything my parents tell me" vibes. Didn't say they were some good time hippies but they were absolutely not monkeys throwing sticks at each other all the time, they had trade networks, ceremonies between tribes, etc.
If Aboriginal people farmed then cool, if they did not then cool! One major part of this country is that Aboriginal people are still not treated equally. This nation that claims to be so great still holds so much disregard for our people. So whatever our people done whether good or not, won't fully be acknowledged. And that's fine because we do not have to prove anything to anybody 😄 we do not have to tell people about our stories and history and back it up with white people's literature. We do not have to communicate back & forth with people that continue to disregard our people. They do it to each other then they do it to other cultures and they just don't expand their horizons or look to gain other perspectives. It's their problem not ours!
Aboriginals recieve more handouts than any other people on earth and still demand more. Your stories are well documented but they are just stories fairytales and entertainment for children. How much regard do you hold for other people ?? Respect is earned not demanded.
@@warwicklewis8735 Aboriginal people do not physically receive handouts. We do not go lining up to centrelink or parliament house asking for money so yeah sorry your argument is invalid baby cakes. And your saying respect is earned, okay so Aboriginal people haven't earned the right to be respected??
Well then. In mainstream Australia and Britain, police and medicos are called out because 1.5 women EACH WEEK are killed by a partner. What does that tell us?
Yes and before white man came, Woman and children where treated as Royalty. Any male stepped out of place All woman and men from all around "Educated " him. Hurt a kid.....never did it again.
@Hunsa Picton Pure fiction? Statements like that don't build a convincing or compelling case for your competence. But I'm mindful that we're chatting on RU-vid, where many people claim to be an expert and know-it-all.
Many hunter-gatherer based societies practiced some manner of agriculture just as many agricultural based societies practiced some hunter-gather supplementation . Many of us in the current modern technological societies still practice some form of agricultural and/or hunter-gatherer behavior . The Australian aborigines survived for many thousands of years and should be proud of their ancestry and heritage .
This video was a great presentation . I just stated my further opinion that the value of societies should not be judged on which survival strategies they practiced . It is the general state of satisfaction of the society which should matter most . History should be based on facts , though often it is not . Regardless it is not correct to evaluate a society by classifying it based on supposed societal progression . - hunter-gather as primitive - agriculture as civilized - industrial as advanced Most societies did and do , and probably shall , include aspects of all of these . I live in Canada which is considered to be a developed country . We are an industrialized nation , but also an agricultural nation , with many farms and gardens , and many of us go hunting and fishing and gathering wild produce .
@@jerrywiese are you saying that breaking a stone and using it as an axe is as advanced as casting your tools in copper. And that the addition of the correct amount of tin to create a bronze alloy is no more advanced. That replacing cast bronze with steel does not equate to a further advancement ?? These innovations and technical advances made life easier and gave the user an advantage over his competitors. This same progressive dynamic applies to agriculture, cultivating your food supplies gives stability and reliability that can not be obtained through hunting and gathering. Freed from the eternal nomadic search for sustenance people were able to raise more children and to provide them with a diet that did not depend on the whims of nature. They had more time to build better tools, housing and experiment with new ideas. Farming allowed them to dedicate more time to recreational pursuits and arts. The increasing population density led to cultural innovations in governance and laws that protected both people and property. No one would ever chose to go back to living the hard uncertain life of a stone age hunter. To compare the epic struggle for survival of our ancestors to a pleasant weekend hunting and fishing is laughable at best. The current SJW propaganda that primitive tribal life was some kind of Neolithic utopian paradise is nothing but lies. The world was not civilized at the point of a gun, but at the point of a knife and fork.
It is a common misconception that "hunter-gatherers" just live off the "natural" landscape, like other fauna. But they do not. They manage vast landscapes. All people, from the very beginning, have been ecological engineers. Indigenous people use fire ecology and replanting of favoured food plants to shape their entire landscape into massive gardens and food forests. This does not mean they were "agriculturalists", because agriculture is almost always associated with private land tenure and early city-states. There is a common notion, not just in Australia, but all over the Americas and Africa, that European style "farming" is better and more admirable than mere "hunting and gathering". But this is a false idea. And the finest soils are to be found in regions where the foraging people encourage a vast mosaic of varying stages of secondary growth. This is due to the many species of colonizing plants in such successions fix nitrogen through bacteria that live in their root nodules. Imposing European land use and crops on the landscape of Australia is detrimental to soils because it replaces these beneficial fire-stick practices with ploughing that exposes the soil to wind and water erosion. Imposing laws that prevent the hunter-gatherer "fire-stick farming" - which, by the way is common to hunter-gatherer and horticultural economies wherever they are still found, on every continent - are equally misguided, as these practices not only create these productive wild "food-scapes", they also prevent disastrous wildfires.
Modern agriculture feeds literally billions of people. Without it there would be a mass extinction as the majority would starve. Pre colonial Australia supported a population estimated at less than a million people. A people who lived a precarious existence on the edge of survival. They manipulated their environment through the use of fire but this was not particularly good for the land either. The remnants of native flora and fauna are the survivors. Only those species which were able to adapt to regular fire events survived the onslaught of aboriginal colonisation. The original rainforest that covered the continent and the mega fauna that lived here were wiped out driven to extinction by the first Australians. Modern Australian farming feeds a population of over 30 million. We are also one of the world major food exporters. Hunter gatherer populations are only able to maintain small populations. They remain at the mercy of nature. Agriculture is a stepping stone to other technologies. Once people become sedentary they are able to spend more time on other pursuits. The food security enables people to explore other industries. Metal work pottery art music architecture boat building and trade are able to flourish because people are no longer tied to the endless struggle to survive. The modern delusion that hunter gatherer societies live in some kind of utopian harmony with nature is simply not true. It is a hard and uncertain existence. Requires a relentless and constant search for food firewood and shelter. Provides a limited seasonal diet sometimes unpalatable. It is not a lifestyle that any sane person would choose over our comfortable agricultural based society.
God’s Truth and Justice is coming for Indigenous People of the earth, We will Reclaim Our Humanity, Dignity, & Land that God Blessed US with for growing Food, Shelter, Medicine and Community-MOT to be hoarded by the Greedy & Gluttonous creating Man-Made Poverty! You will know the TRUTH, the TRUTH will set you FREE.” -Jesus Christ 🙏🏿
80,000 + years of continued sustainable, nurturant culture, during which at least 1 billion persons were born, lived, loved, lost and died.. good lives, biologically healthy lives, lives mostly egalitarian in dynamic. 250 language groups and little in the way of organised multi-generational war-fare. People acknowledged tensions and conflict resolution was the typical response. They survived two massive climate changesm without losing their genetic diversity... These people know how to live here, with all that is, and they know how to live lives full of love, abundance,m effort, laughter, poignancy... they know more about being truly biologically healthy as human species than the colonisers do. Even stil. Make Austraila Great Again! Give it Back and listen to the elders. Listen because even still they will love you, and nurture you. Just open up. It's not that diffficult.
I am not trying to call you a liar or diminish anything the aboriginals did but the whole 80,000 years ago thing makes no sense to me. I mean 80,000 years ago Neanderthals and denisovans were still living. That would make it the oldest civilization to ever exist wouldn’t it? I feel like in a location such as tropical Australia agricultural would of been practical and a probable way of life so I am not debating that it was practiced to some extent. But if you compare the aboriginal Australians to say native Americans in Mexico or Aryans in ancient India which are other cultures that developed independently they have evidence of large scale civilizations and functioning economies. I mean if you claim they are that old how in all of that time did they not build something of significance. I can’t personally think of an ancient people and culture living in rainforests not to build some type of stone buildings. I guess you could point out specific areas in South America and elsewhere but I am talking on large scale. I think Australian Aboriginals are very similar to native Americans that were found in the eastern US. Both practiced agriculture but native Americans there did not build massive cities or towns which could be very similar to the aboriginal in Australia.
@@Luke-bj8mr hmmm... the mistake many make is to thinkthat civilisation is an inevitable marker of progress. It's not. Biology mandates healthy behaviour in all species.... Bullying, or Violent Hierarchy is not healthy behaviour.... In Anthropology we see spectra of behaviour from egalitarian to hierarchically violent. Studies of Neuro-development, endocrinology suggest like wise the mandate for healthy behaviour, because being bully anbd being bullied damage the body and the mind.,
The CFA put out a youtube video a year ago featuring Bruce pascoe in which he claims aboriginals comunicated with other aboriginies up to 500km away using message sticks - So they actually invented the telephone, or was it the internet?
To save me the time, in a nut shell, did Aboriginal Australians farm? Its a big country, it is possible that some communities did establish semi-permanent sites that they farmed seasonally.
What he says about the need to start growing Australian crop is very true! There has been a growing focus in recent years on 'locally-sourcing' foodstuffs, to reduce the carbon footprint of our foods since they do not need to be transported across oceans, which is fantastic! However, if there could be a large movement towards growing crops that are actually local to a place, that would be incredible.
Pascoe and others have been trying to grow native crops for over ten years now. They still haven't been able to produce anything that is economically viable. Australian farmers have always been at the forefront of crop development. Do you think they would not have been growing native crops if they were viable ?? How insulting that a political activist can come along and claim to know more about agriculture. Only the gullible and deluded would believe such outrageous nonsense. The only native food crop that has been successful is macadamia nuts. Recognised by European settlers as a productive food source and very quickly turned into a valuable commodity.
@@warwicklewis8735 What about native millet? And the countless plants which haven't been fully cultivated (as the Eurasian plants were over centuries through artificial selection), but show great potential in production and nutrition?
@@betula2137 that is a good question. Why aren't we growing native millet or yam daisies or whatever ?? I think you may have mentioned the answer already. The food crops we eat today have been developed over time through generations of selective breeding. Selection for productivity, flavour and quality has changed these plants. Giving us high yields of good quality produce. To start this process from scratch would require planting unproductive wild plants carefully selecting the higher yield/better flavour individuals for propagation. Then planting another poorly producing crop and doing it again and again thousands of times over. The value of the grain would not cover the cost of producing it. A farmer would have to run a program of selective development at his own loss. And in the end what would you have ??..could native millet ever compete with wheat, corn and rice ??..or would it be nothing but a novelty crop for hobby farmers.
@@warwicklewis8735 Native millet has actually already passed the economic-viability marker. It is already more nutritious compared to old-world crops, and can be industrially farmed at high return. European settlers also used it to make damper. All it needs is federal funding and establishment with conventional farms in order to compete with the status-quo system of growing traditional staple crops, which is hard to change. That's why we don't grow many native plants industrially for crops, because there is a lack of political will to go through the effort of changing a thoroughly-established existing system.
@@betula2137 I call bs on that. There is a huge demand for native crops. A market is the only incentive needed to encourage farmers to plant any crop that will produce returns especially something that will produce on marginal land that is usually fallow. If it isn't on the market it is not through lack of government funding, any indigenous business start up is able to access millions of taxpayer dollars with no accountability. Australian farmers have always been at the forefront of crop development, drought resistant wheat merino sheep, granny smith apples and plenty of other varieties of high yield agricultural produce adapted to Australian conditions.
The continent is large and diverse. People used different methods depending on which part they were from. What they all have in common though is more balanced approach compared to introduced methods. When white settlers moved in they took all the best, most productive land.
They've never heard full blooded aboriginals talk about farming for the same reason they've never heard full blooded aboriginals talk about colonising mars.... Because it never happened.
Bruce Pascoe looks no more Aboriginal than some farmers of European background who are out in the Australian sun every day. According to AIATSISI you only need to have some Aboriginal descent and to make (up) a couple of other claims to be regarded as Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islander. Hospitals and other places make it even easier, you just tick the box "Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander." Bruce Pascoe can't prove any Aboriginal blood, even 1/64th. Bruce is actually 100% European and a con artist to claim he is Aboriginal in his fictional book. To be regarded as Aboriginal and get all those financial benefits, they should show proof of at least 50% Aboriginal blood, otherwise they are White Australian. Shame on Governments Departments like the ABC for promoting this fraud.
It's called giving reparations and a voice to a community that was never given one. I am sure he has recognized his privilege, but he is using it to tell the truth and make amends.
This bloke's work was debunked by anthropologist Peter Sutton and archaeologist Keryn Walsh. "Littered with errors and unsourced material.." His claim to aboriginality is also disputed by many - including some of his own family. Treat this with appropriate skepticism.
I'm confused about why people are saying his claims are false? I thought it was well known that the first Australian's had wheat belts, regularly harvested local food sources and often travelled throughout different seasons to trade with other tribes? It wasn't luck they thrived in Australia for as long as they have.
No one is saying they didn't survive. They were an amazing culture capable of surviving in a harsh environment. This has always been acknowledged. They were a nomadic hunter gatherer society with a complex social structure. Gathering the native grains harvesting the wild plants and animals. Truly a remarkably resilient people. But not farmers or settled people. The evidence has shown that they lived as nomadic hunters unchanged for millennia. Bruce is saying that this isn't good enough they must be made more like Europeans. He ignores the ingenuity of their ancient culture. Unable to respect them unless he turns them into a recognisably European agricultural people.
@@warwicklewis8735 Perfectly put. He puts forth a very Eurocentric idea that agriculture is the result of progress from hunter-gathering, which implicates that farming is better than a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.
@@zac2636 ?? Farming is a progression from hunter gathering. The advantages of stable food sources and permanent settlement shouldn't be underestimated. Farming was developed independently in at least four separate places. From these early agricultural societies it was soon adopted by every other culture that had contact with the idea. Though the process of adapting to farming takes many generations it eventually replaces hunter gatherer communities once they are exposed to and in competition with agricultural people. Being free from the endless struggle of nomadic movements and the unpredictable resources of nature allows men to put their effort into other pursuits. In agricultural societies we see an increase in the production of high quality craft and manufacture, buildings become more sophisticated, art and music flourish. In general the number and quality of available goods grows exponentially. It is the nature of people to want luxury and material goods (the morality of this is another question but one I will leave for the philosophical pundits to argue). Todays aboriginal people live on the fruit of agricultural success. Although they still indulge in some hunting, fishing or foraging it is no longer carried on in the pursuit of survival but rather as a representation of cultural identity and recreation. Generally carried out with the aid of modern vehicles and guns or boats and fishing lines. Relying entirely on modern western cultural traditions for food, shelter, transport and healthcare. People did not give up hunting and gathering at the point of a gun. Rather at the point of a knife and fork.
@@warwicklewis8735 I get where you're coming from, but I simply think you can't say with certainty that farming is a progression from hunter-gathering. It depends on various factors, including environmental factors. For example, in "Guns, Germs and Steel", Jared Diamond talks about how Indigenous Australians in the Torres Strait islands/North Queensland traded with communities in New Guinea who had established agricultural practices. When introduced to domestic pigs, Indigenous Australians did not adopt a sedentary lifestyle and begin farming, because there was simply no need for it; hunter-gathering as a way of life was most convenient and suited their environment, and despite being introduced to domestic pigs, they did not feel a need to part from their lifestyle. This also brings into question your point about how agriculture was "soon adopted by every other culture that had contact with the idea". But my primary point is that environment has a lot to do with it, and this is why farming began in the fertile crescent; conditions were perfect with easily domesticatable plants and animals, and a favourable climate. Not everywhere is suited to a sedentary lifestyle, like in Australia where there are few places with perfect soil, few animal species favourable for domestication, and the climate in some areas is not ideal which means there may be a worse quality of life, and the advancements you have talked about may be further out of reach. Another good example to illustrate this is in the book "Van Diemen's Land" when newly arrived Brits in Australia ended up adopting a semi-nomadic lifestyle over time, because that was better suited to the environment and presumably because it guaranteed a better quality of life. It should also be noted that there is no inherent value to a farming or hunter-gathering way of life; they are both complex and don't belong on some sort of evolutionary hierachy. There are advantages to adopting a sedentary lifestyle, but there are also disadvantages and limitations.
Mr Pascoe, would you please respond to the Aboriginal communities that deny your inclusion as a first country person - indeed that you are not of aboriginal origin. Is it true that your heritage is English? Moreover, how do you respond to the historians that reject all of your theories of early Australian people? As a person that is willing to speak publicly to extend your thoughts and theories, are you willing to defend the claims that you have misunderstood the history of this country? You have enjoyed the fruits of the Australian people's public purse, the academic acclaim, the academic position - the spotlight of a State Government seeding their schools with your material. If your studies and theories are sound in your own mind, they should be worth standing up to the test of public scrutiny. I ask that you come forward publically and explain your material on Andrew Bolt's program with the renowned Australian Historian Geoffrey Blainey. If you are indeed a first country person, who has carefully researched your thesis you would be well served to a polite academic debate with Mr Blainey.
Just what i thought. Why are he doing this? It is almost like he thinks aboriginal people are lesser then. What he say is false, but he feels the need to fabricate an extraordinary tale in order to raise aboriginal peoples status. This is a big thing in America, where african american history revisionists jump through hoops in order to claim that they ruled the world, invented everything, and "civilized" the world, and it is sad really. Just imagine the shock of those kids that are taught to believe this when they find out that this isnt true. 😐
U dnt get it! White Europeans claim Aborigines were hunter & gatherers & had no tie to the land of Australia so they can use it against Aborigines by lying to the world that these people did not need their land.
In Australia the aboriginal culture and sciences are incredibly misunderstood, yes there's nothing wrong with being a hunter gather society but we weren't. Rather we has mass systems of complex information, astronomy, genetics, agriculture, the environment, we had dams, complete control over the environment and animals that was beneficial for both parties. If you look into it is beyond impressive. But in the manner of colonisation none of it is written in our books, were only 53 years human to them. that's why its important to actually educate people about our culture and what we can do for the environment, maybe then Australia wouldn't have been on fire for months on end or wouldn't be the leading country in extinction.
It is part of the curriculum! I'm teaching year stage 6 agriculture and they have to learn how Aboriginal Australians farmed the land pre colonisation and how their knowledge can assist current Australian Agriculture
Aboriginals really didn't achieve very much. No written language, no great cities. no wheel, no copper, no bronze, no iron, no sailing ships to explore the lands off South East Asia, Asia etc. This was simply basic agriculture. Even the advanced tools were absent.
Bruce Pascoe's a shockingly dishonest and divisive pseudo historian. Here's an example. Dark Emu p. 30: "The science of baking developed alongside the seed harvests. Richard Fullagar, at the Australian Museum, and Judith Field, at the University of New South Wales, found grindstones at Cuddie Springs, near Walgett, in western New South Wales, which had been used to grind more than 30,000 years ago. This makes the people the world's oldest bakers by almost 15,000 years, as the Egyptians, the next earliest, didn't bake until 17,000 BC." Leaving aside the fact that this "boast" mirrors similar boasts by white supremacists that "we" invented steam engines and the internet, Pascoe's summary of Fullagar and Field's discovery doesn't match their own descriptions of it. They found grindstones which COULD have been used to grind seed to a paste, or COULD have been used to make flour which may then have been put on hot rocks to cook out the starch, or COULD have been used for other purposes such as to grind ochres. Dark Emu p. 31: "The explorer Hamilton Hume, in frank conversation with Robinson, said that he had been on the exploration parties of Captain Charles Sturt (1795-1869), and that, 'on the Darling the Natives gather grain from the wild oats and grind it between two stones and make a paste and eat it, the same is done by the Natives to the northward'." First bakers or first tahini-makers? Bruce's agenda, from start to finish, is anti-white, with explicit accusations directed at reputable historians such as Charles Manning Clark, Geoffrey Blainey, Bain Atwood, Henry Reynolds, Lyndall Ryan and others too scrupulous to turn the discovery of grindstones into a "we understood the science of baking" claims.
Last time I checked that grass is speculated to maybe be extinct because we were too slow to care. But well, white people speculations aren't exactly the pinnacle of accuracy so there's likely no less than 10 aboriginal communities making cake with it somewhere today, but nobody has bothered to check.
@@ddshocktrooper5604 I am looking forward to hearing how the harvest of local grains on the N.S.W. coast (mentioned in this clip) goes. The harvest time is Feb 2019. With all the mismanagement of our rivers I suspect the harvest will be more successful than the imported water hungry species, especially if you take into account the real cost of water and water mismanagement. Australia has a long written history (since 'colonisation') of drought ruining food supplies (with our more modern imported farming techniques) and serious starvation and depravation resulting from that. There are records showing how many 'settlers' were wiped out from famine. I think it is a pity so much knowledge has already been lost. I hope we start investing in learning some of the farming practices and food species from the knowledge keepers that are left.
That would be an anachronism. Nobody cares though do they? Coz you can't challenge anything about theories regarding Aboriginals. This isn't evidence based it's speculating.
Denial of what? They farmed but at a subsistence level. No written language, no great cities, no inventions of bronze, iron etc. Oh and they were defeated.
Aboriginals were not farmers, that would be derogatory to suggest that. They were land managers that lived with nature, farming is only concerned with profiting from nature.
"Lived with nature" you mean lived at the mercy of nature. Lived like all primitive people by hunting gathering and moving on when resources become depleted. In drought they went thirsty in flood they drowned. In years of plenty they feasted. Famine in the dry years brought hunger and starvation. You romanticize this life but the reality of paleolithic society is that it was a harsh existence a constant struggle for survival against an unforgiving environment.
@@warwicklewis8735 Well said. It is called survival bias. Those that did not cope with the environment died. They can't tell their story. Charles Sturt when he went through the Macquarie Marshes fed the aborigines as they had eaten all the food. He was quit scathing of them eating everything and leaving nothing. The other thing no one seems to mention is that the tribal wars and blood feuds would have stopped aborigines moving to areas where there was food. As someone has pointed out 500 languages is clear proof they did not get along.
Nice try but we all know that Mesopotamia is The cradle of civilization where proper irrigated farms were started as opposed to rain dependent fields. That gives you a stable yield which begets wealth and a growing thriving settlement which leads to prosperity and advances in economy, inventions and politics. And to say that your crops are staple and don't need pesticides is simply moronic as a mere week change in weather can ruin an entire crop and make it susiptible to disease and pests. The oldest cities and villages on ersth are around Mesopotamia the oldest walled city in the world is Jericho 12000 years ago I repeat walled city that is how advanced they got.
I'm sure the Aboriginals will soon claim that they were the cradle of modern civilization. Lol. No wheel, no written language, no cities, no copper, no bronze, no iron, What trade there was with others was where Aboriginals provided raw materials and others provided finished goods. Oh and Aboriginals weren't sailing around the region to trade with others or explore the world either.
Bruce takes basic facts and adds a load of nonsense to them. High on this list are two things. 1. He claims to have Indigenous ancestors but has been proven not to. And if he has made that up, what else should you question? 2. He claims Indigenous Australians were "the most peaceful people on earth" before colonisation. The reality is Indigenous Australians were just as violent as anyone else in the world if not more so, because their culture was vendetta based. Indigenous Australians believed that every single death of a man (except in old age) was caused by witchcraft and had to be avenged. This brought about thousands of years of endless payback killings, fighting and war. The term 'Makarrata' - at the core of The 'Voice' proposal - actually means 'payback'. In Melbourne itself, at the time Europeans arrived, the Kurnai tribe (Lidia Thorpe's people) were in a 'payback war' to exterminate the Bunurong tribe. Both these tribes were also cannibals, who ate their enemies. Like most First Australians did. Anyone who actually knows anything about history knows cannibalism was endemic in Australia. No surprise really because all neighbouring lands were cannibals too - New Zealand, Torres Strait Islands and New Guinea. To avoid the stigma associated with cannibalism, the powers that be (State, Church, etc) had preferred to hush this truth up. It's only raised here to show just how far Bruce veers from reality. Judging by many of the posts here, Bruce sure has misled a lot of people.
We are meant to rest paddocks after using them, rest them then grow on it again. People that live on the land understand the land. Respect the Aboriginal culture they have been on this land for a very long time. We all must learn from one another to make this world a better place, a healthy place with good food that is nutritious and so it can nourish us. Peace.
'The truths' he tells are complete fabrications, however. There are many sources using real facts that actually debunk his claims. He is a charlatan.. Sorry. Do some due diligence..
@@orkadian4173 so sad that historical accuracy or study is beneath your engendered hatred of all people who aren't white enough for your sensibility. Evidence that he is lying or sources that prove the opposite please....
Pascoe is not even Aboriginal and a fantasy writer. He has no idea what it takes to Farm and is just pulling peoples chain for a cushy job. My family worked the land for over 100 years and it took them years just to clear the land to farm. As to the grains he talks about ,all were introduced by colonization. His talk about flowing fields in the heart of Australia is BS as there is not enough water to supply such crops and they did not have the means to transport water over long distance. They had no work animals to even work the land so vast fields is BS again. Pascoe is a lair and fraud, no even recognized by the Aboriginal people.
Bruce Pascoe makes some pretty wild claims, taken from original sources that are prone to bias. Indigenous Australians were not just farmers as they also hunted kangaroo and other animals. I believe they utilised the land around them in the best way possible to supply their food: harvesting, foraging, hunting, fishing, & burning.
Then why are they all completely dependant on welfare hand outs now ?? Why are they not using these remarkable food resources to produce commercial interests ?? There is huge global demand for sustainable food technology could they please share these secrets with us ?? Or is it just a feel good fantasy with no actual substance ???!!??
@@warwicklewis8735 , your other response to my other post is your answer. Whilst Aboriginals made the most of their food resource, our food was vastly better - tastier, with more energy density, and many Aboriginal foods were poisonous if not prepared correctly. The reason humanity changed to rely on farming was for these reasons too. Native food gathering cannot support local consumption as well as excess for sale. Many Aboriginals in more remote areas of Australia do harvest native food to eat. It's a bit hard for Aboriginies in built up areas to do likewise, of course. I think Bruce Pascoes idea of endless native food resources is a fantasy, their population was not very large, and accounts I've read talk of some Indigenous starving in lean years.
@@jasonh.8754 The reason our foods are more nutrient dense is because we have selectively bred them that way....it is the result of generations of farming. You don't see this kind of genetic selection in any native foods. This is further proof that Pascoe is not "truth telling"
@@warwicklewis8735 Do you sincerely believe that our vegetables are selectively bread for nutrient density? That has to be so far from the truth. Crops are built for yield, profit, climate advantage(drought resistance), appearance and sellability(value). Please explain why you think this? What about the fertilisers? If they are so good, why so many fertilisers? Are we talking, biodynamic, organic, or common farming? There is a big distinction. And you first response about "welfare handouts' is atrocious. Practically the entire population of Indigenous Australians were colonised, divided, removed, land taken away, jailed or killed. You have to admit that it's pretty hard to continue normal societal organisation when you've just been invaded. I have an idea, considering you are asking to... "please share these secrets?" (you said). Why not investigate a bit more? Why not travel out west, into predominantly indigenous populated areas and ask the question. teach them, See if the land is still worthy, valuable. Why do you think universities encourage Indigenous population to come to uni. Spoiler: so they can get educated and contribute to opportunities like you mentioned. I'm curious. Genuine interested what perspective of education you are coming from? Qualifications, career vocation?
@@isupportchef have you ever eaten a wild carrot or wild onion? They are barely eatable. They are also tiny. You would need to eat 30 just be nourished
This man is totally discredited he is not Aboriginal and has no Aboriginal in his family at all. He is a liar, facts do not stand up to critical examination . Please review other examinations of his book.
Thank you Bruce for all of your research and spreading the word of Australia's real history. I would recommend anyone watching this to check out some of Bruce's other videos. Incredible information.
Mr Pascoe’s cites for information on the aboriginal grain agriculture, the researcher Harry Allen, who has three separate works cited in Dark Emu including, “The Bagundji of the Darling Basin: Cereal Gatherers in an Uncertain Environment” (1974). From the same, beloved explorers' accounts* that Mr Pascoe used for evidence in Dark Emu, as well as other historical records, Harry Allen was able to build up a model of Bagundji subsistence activities, but came to completely the opposite conclusion as Mr Pascoe with regard to the possible presence of pre-colonial aboriginal agriculture. Harry Allen summarises his peer-reviewed findings in the abstract summary as follows: “The Bagundji economy was primarily riverine in character based on the collection of aquatic foods and wild cereals. Seasonal variations in their subsistence activities can be related to seasonal variations in the productivity of their habitat. Despite a long period of association with wild cereals, the Bagundji remained hunters and gatherers and apparently made no attempt to cultivate these cereals. Possible reasons for this are examined. No simple explanation can be put forward to explain either the specific problem of the absence of agriculture from the Darling River Basin or the general problem of the absence of agriculture from Aboriginal Australia as a whole."
@Paul French Some Aboirigine tribes induct oursiders into their tribes and they have been doing it for 1000s of years. Its part of their culture. his genes are aborigine now not to be questioned by the Commonwealth.
This guy is a teller of fairy tales. The natives in Australia never had a written language until Europeans started a translation into English using the Latin alphabet. They never had metal tools and didn’t even have knowledge of the wheel.
The point about carbon sequestration is an interesting one, Allan Savory talks about the same thing using something much more common: grass. My only question is that with Agriculture surplus food leads to specialization and a higher population. Were these also noted by early explorers?
Agriculture requires specialized tools, none have ever been found here. Have a look (laugh) at the pathetic attempt to pass pointy rocks off as tools. Described as weighing "more than can be lifted above the waist" a weight that makes it far to heavy to be of any practical use as a tool. He claims to have seen "thousands" and yet the best example has no handle and no sign of having had one. This is conclusive proof that Bruce has never done an honest days work but that is all it proves.
@@NCRonrad we are not talking about thousands of years. Only 200 years has past since colonisation. This is not long enough for wood and bone to completely deteriorate. As is evidenced by the wooden hunting and gathering tools that are still found. The definition of genocide does not include providing free education and health care. Or sustained efforts to protect and preserve cultural traditions. It's not that I dismiss genocide....it's more a case of I dismiss political propaganda.
That's what I was wondering... Specialization also led to civilization - civil = cities. Aborigines invented bread and society?? That was invented independently in many places around the world. Pity he politicizes this. Keep to the facts.
Sadly no one will listen to the elders not the land councils not the people stealing money from the kids no one. They should be an immediate enquiry into this
Do tell. Andrew Bolt...isn’t he that conservative opportunist who makes a living out if denying anthropogenic climate change? A defender of George Pell, the child-abusing cardinal?
