It’s great writing because the way his dad broke him down without laying a hand on him is exactly how Edgar would break homelander down. Both still feeling the effects of the older men in their lives.
It’s gets even better, because Homelander looks at Soldier Boy as an escape from those feelings, he thinks that SB won’t treat him the same as Edgar did because he understands him. He’s hoping that together they can break the cycle of trauma, but SB still broken chooses to continue the cycle.
@youngdiffi I interpreted it differently. He chose to take responsibility and end the cycle of violence by killing homelander knowing he was even more broken than himself and would cause untold devastation.
@@Witnessmooyou can break someone down by being honest. In fact, that’s usually how you break someone down lol, by giving them complete truth about themselves that they aren’t ready to hear.
Couldn’t have been anybody better to play soldier boy and homelander. they also should’ve threw him in mk 11 that’s BS we’re getting cry baby 🥛 laser eyes ,over the guy with a fucking shield made of tons that brutally but professionally takes out his foes so victories that he scares homelander. Spoileer alert he’s his dad anyway and pretty much does say the exact same thing his father told him, ending up being no different it’s lowkey depressing to if you really think about homelanders life and soldier boy alone with all the tortured “testing” done to him raising such a psychotic weirdo like homelander. I just prefers soldier boy’s fighting style also mk1 has fucking Omni man. Who would obliterate soldier boy and homelander in 3 secs. But regardless solder boy is a mf power house 💥 Bro can take your powers from you if leaving you mortal when you had recently had godlike powers. Lmao big change of effect there dude is like a nuclear ☢️ bomb
I had read somewhere that during filming, the directors were constantly telling him "his Dean was showing" because he played Dean Winchester for so long. And honestly, I can see it a few times in The Boys. It's just the type of character, and he does it SO WELL.
Acting is someone who can ACT like a different person in a different movie/show. He is ACTING like Dean Winchester from supernatural 😂 which is how he acts in almost everything he is in. I’m not saying he is a bad soldier boy/ Dean Winchester what I am saying is his acting is not that great. Simply due to the fact that he has the same personality in most of the things he is in. Being comfortable in front of a camera and being recorded does not make you a good actor 🎭 if that were the case any porn star would would be considered a good actor/actress 😂
It's ironic. A Soldier Boy strived to earn his father's recognition, which he never got. And then Homelander tried to earn his, Soldier Boy’s recognition, which he also did not get. Sick family))
Not only did he survive a practical death sentence. But he got a superior form of Compound V because he was made essentially immortal. Soldier Boy is over 100 years old but still looks 35
That's what gets to me about the temp V. Does that mean if they took the real shot they would have those powers? Or does the temp only do those sets of powers only? Because they each had different types of powers
"Never laid a hand on me" I really liked that change from Butcher's life. You don’t need physical abuse to fuck up someone Edit: You know, I honestly thought this was a kinda simple comment
Basically my dad. He was always working so during the week Basically abcent from my life. Literally. Even when it was my and my sisters birthday he didn't turn up until about 6 or 7pm. At the very most he might be in the house, but working from home. He isn't massive, but compared to my skinny body he is huge. But worst of all, because he was so absent for my childhood, I never learned to stand up for myself, and it only made it worse when I did do something wrong, he'd obliterate me with words. Even now I struggle to have a conversation with him about my life without him going into some pitch about how I'm in the wrong or that I need to be quiet and deal with it.
Worst of all was when I broke the news as an adult that I was bullied throughout school, he assumed I did something to cause it. I was the fault for being bullied. Yeah. I look like your average nerd. Wear glasses, and was scrawny and shy with no confidence in myself. I was picked on for being a stereotype.
@@northernleigonare I sympathize and hope you’re doing better now. Doesn’t have to be physical for it to fuck you up. I know the abuse I went through fucked me up for a long while.
@@northernleigonaremy mom's idealogy is that her kids are her belongings, and nothing she does to them is wrong because they're hers. I was glad when she died, and I hope God and Heaven exists just so she can know I don't miss her even a tad bit
This is why you treat your sons right. You teach your son. Your guide him. If he disappoints you, you show him how to be better. If he fails, you help him and explain how to improve. And most importantly, you don’t put your own shortcomings onto him. Our sons and daughters must be better than us.
Rule: Number 1 those that don't value you at anything fairly. Never value their opinions and words because they will have hatred bias of you so they will only look for more of what you don't have and can't do or be. Once you climbed up for yourself love it and move on and acknowledge that person as your biggest hater and fan. Never seek approval from ppl seek Approval of getting over your own weakness and accepting you are better than before.
A real man raises his son to grow up confident. A real man doesn't see his son as competition - but as a part of him - the best part of him. One of the greatest impacts in a boy's life is the love and support of his dad. It often determines the course of their lives. Use your power well, fathers - because it matters.
I don’t care what people say soldier boy is far more human then homelander he is atleast capable of expressing how he feels telling is people fucked up shit happened to him rather then cry about it kill half a dozen people then scream and fly a away not a good guy but much closer to redemption then homelander
@@calebmetsker533 not like that tho Doing something really dangerous but with a great reward is masculine Cheating has repercussions but not deadly ones He put his life on the line and won
One thing I find interesting is how butcher and Soldier Boy had dad with abuse. Butchers abuse focused more on the physical side that’s why he’s such a hard ass and in part is abusive to people around him like Hughie. That’s why when Solider Boy said his dad made sure he knew it Butcher immediately goes to the belt. But soldier Boys dad never touched him instead it was more mental. He never gave his son the attention or credit that he needed no matter how strong or what he did so even when he became the strongest man on the planet this dad still couldn’t give him the attention he wanted from his dad. This turns Solider boy into not only a physical abuser with Black Noir but also a narcissist because he tries to gain attention and praise his farther never did. Almost a worse way to abuse someone than just physical beating a like butcher
It is worse. I suffered both. Psychological abuse cuts so much deeper then physical abuse yet physical abuse gets bitches about the most while those that suffer tremendously at the hands of their ‘loved’ ones continue to suffer.
@@roaringlaughter3812 Physical abuse is all encompassing of everything including psychologically, mentally, emotionally, etc. As someone who has allegedly been abused, you sure do like to call other abuse victims b*tches? What's that even supposed to mean? That evert victim is a monolith?
The physical abuse will build anger and resentment towards the abuser, but the wording and constant criticism will build doubt and a terrible self esteem in the abused.
@@l0sts0ul89you’re delusional they are literally the same person. Soldier boy even says that to homelander… it’s like you people don’t watch your own show lmao
@@MrPsychoticss No Soldier Boy said they were both disappointments. But they were disappointments in a different way. When Soldier Boy’s father emotionally abused him it wasn’t warranted. He didn’t really do anything to deserve it besides maybe being an unruly slacker and being kicked out of boarding school. Homelander was a murderous, narcissistic manchild when he met his father Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy was disappointed in his son because he turned out like he did as an adult. He was disappointed that he had to call his son a disappointment like his dad did to him. But when Soldier Boy was a teenager he wasn’t anything like Homelander, so he didn’t deserve that treatment. He turned out the way he did because of how his father treated him.
@@docproc144 "he said they were disappointments in different ways" Yeah his gray is grayer than his gray, they are both fucking disappointments, and they are both the same stupid man
@emanuelvalerio Captain America is basically the good guy stepping up though even knowing the serum may not work or kill him, so your point isn't valid. It's basically just a multiverse writers choice.
I feel that. For a long time, my old man and I had a similar relationship. Then he came back with PTSD and retired with 30 years of service. Got prescribed the same meds they gave me. We finally saw each other man to man. I told him everything I needed to say. How much I hate the military and this country for taking my father away from me when I was the one who needed him. Not the military who only saw him as another expendable asset, when to me he was always my fucking hero. He could be sitting across from me at the fucking dinner table but he's still over there, fighting battles no one asked him to be a part of! While I'm forced to be put on medication that stunted my growth and left me with permanent side effects which I'll be judged for. He said he genuinely believes I'm going to be a serial killer. My hero. My father. I was hurt by that for a long time. Then I grew from it. I have a few nieces and an amazing nephew. I asked myself, if my nephew was standing beside me right now, who do I want him to look up at me and see? How would that person act? That little boy saved my soul, and I'm going to do everything I can to be the man I want him to see in me. I'm not my father. I am me. I get to define what that means. I chose to let go of the pain and negativity from my father and my relationship, and since then, we've been bonding better. I don't think I love my father, I'm not even sure I really like him. But I respect him and now I see him more as a mentor. It helps reduce the emotional swelling of expectations on both sides. Edit; The meds they gave him were an eye opener cuz he saw what they did to me. It was so bad it served as an equalizer for us. Nothing quite levels the playing field like watching your son get the shit kicked out of him and then a decade or so later you get the shit kicked outta you too by the same thing.
I'm guessing his dad might have been self made and probably got his steel business up during the depression, therefore his son achieving everything via the hard work of some nazi scientists would be the epitome of a lazy way to success. Had he enlisted and racked up some ranks as a normal human his dad would have probably felt differently
From Ghost Hunter with daddy issues, to Angel Descendant with daddy issues, to Government Guinea Pig/Super Hero with daddy issues. I'm sensing a theme here.
People sleep on Jensen too much. People don't give him enough credit for the caliber of actor that he is, because he is a fantastic actor. He was sort of stuck within the world of Supernatural for so long, and as a Supernatural fan, I didn't mind that at all, but now that it's over and done with, I just hope that he continues to get new roles, because he definitely deserves them.
@@94Liturgy Yea, I've never watched Days of our lives. Not really my cup of tea. But Supernatural Ive loved since I watched the first episode the day it came out. Both him and Jared are great actors that don't get the credit they deserve, likely because many people see actors on tv shows as being less than actors who primarily do big movies, but I think that is just ridiculous nonsense.
@BlazeLs-je7yo I had no choice but to watch that show when I was a kid....so that's how I knew him. Other than that yeah he does. I would really love to see him in Movie Roles, but I wonder how many he's turned down. This man has so much talent that it's slept on.
Jensen is a really underrated actor. He really grew into himself as an actor during the 15 seasons of Supernatural. Season 1 he was still pretty wooden, by season 4 he could make you laugh and make you cry. It's nice to see him get to flex his acting chops in a bigger budget, more widely watched show like The Boys. I hope it only leads to bigger and better things for him.
I also think he voices batman and Jason Todd very well too I had no idea when I was younger that he voiced my favorite character red hood hes a great actor
Problem is, he's an even worse supe to have to control compared to Homelander. They can hurt and kill Homelander; they cannot hurt nor kill Soldier Boy if he ever went loose cannon.
@@Billy-bc8pk Perhaps but Soldier Boy is clearly a much more benign personality than Homelander. Homelander wants the adoration of the masses and has a contingency plan for global rule via systematic destruction if he doesn't get what he wants Soldier Boy has no grand ambitions, just get revenge on a small number of specific individuals then and then just chill out and smoke or something. He has no motive or drive for large scale violence
@@KingInBlack69 keyword being was, he was an asshole when he was alive but after he was betrayed he basically got humbled, all he wanted to do was get revenge on his betrayers. If he was a monster he would've joined Homelander but he stuck to his word and kept his end of the deal he made with butcher. Homelander has absolutely no sympathy, Soldier Boy does.
Says he cheated and yet the father didnt realise he was the reason. Fathers are so significant in the development of the child. The Boys has a line up of characters with trash or absent fathers.
These two had my favorite dynamic in the show. Two men being two men Men who’ve suffered Lost Fought And cried For anything to stop the pain. But there is only pain.
His not a super hero, his an actor, all supers are, none of them are real super heroes, they are just frauds that's the whole point, there isn't heroes on the boys, only frauds and hyper violent governmental agents
I love this because Soldier Boy still isn’t a good guy. He’s not evil or anything, but he’s a straight up killer who’s taken out civilians as collateral damage and not thought twice about it. And yet he’s still Human. He’s not as shallow as we are at first lead to believe.
He’s not a good guy, he’s an asshole, but I think he isnt evil as well. He does kill civilians but it’s never intentional, and I think happens a lot less than the other supes.
I got the belt plenty, always folded in half. If the old man was really pissed. He’d hold the folded end and give me the buckle too. My ex wife was super manipulative and very emotionally abusive. That shit hurt way worse than the belt and the buckle.
A spanking hurts while it's happening, a whooping could leave you sore for a day or 2, a mean word said by a loved one who means it hurts for a lifetime.
You see, that's the major difference between him and other these modern villains. He is an asshole by nature, but remembers every bit of mistake and discipline he experienced in life.
Being beat was bad enough, but in a fucked up way, some parents do it because they love their kid and the only way they know to discourage bad behavior is through fear. But when you know, your not even good enough for the belt, to be beat, you know they dont love or value you. In those cases, not being beat hurts so much more than if you were. It tears you up inside.
I dont think physical abuse is mainly about physical abuse since if its not some brutal damage the body will heal... But generally these kids suffer terror aswell from the abusive parent. Not just beating but constant fear amd being on the edge and stay alerted. It is also a psycological abuse included.
I absolutely love 'Soldier Boy'. These characters are a lot deeper than people would believe. Soldier Boy and Billy Butcher's stories are very real. Young men have fathers like this.
No. He did. He used his father's influence and name to get what he wanted instead of earning for the spot in the tryouts. True, there is a risk, but so is being an actual soldier in WW2. While he acted and was a poster boy for the military, actual normal people fought and died while he essentially did nothing for the war effort but did a song and dance acting like a soldier. It wasn't much later. He was on the front lines, and we all saw what kind of person he was at that point.
@@HellxKnight54 That's a good observation. But I have another theory "Shortcut" for those that don't know if men live life with the mere help of their own mental and physical abilities and try as hard as they can to make it in life. So he took a shortcut in life.. so basically life is definitely now easier for him to live and navigate.. so life is so easy for him compared to others who try their own .so that's cheating. But I like your approach as well because it fits as well
The funny part is his dad was right when he took a shortcut, didn't earn his way into the trials, didn't do shit to earn his abilities he cheated, granted his dad shouldn't have been a massive dick but still
His dad was wrong. The success rate and the survival for compound V back then was so low. Solider boy put his life on the line to attain that. He earned that shit.
Soldier Boy is the by far the best character in The Boys. All of his lines and scenes are iconic and equal parts funny and terrifying (like when he smoked MM’s tear gas grenade). He’s amazing.
Always been. Kids with army parents especially suffering from PTSD army parents always fuck up their kids. And the muritard war machine feeds on this also. Every generation ends up more damaged than the previous because of this.
It's really sad when you sacrifice you body, health and sanity to impress someone you care for, and they will always find an excuse to put you down. Worst part is, I see this happen soo many times where the child who has suffered this treatment, more often than not, has the same behavior towards his kids. It's really a toxic cycle, and I wish there was a way to prevent it for all kids of every generation.
My father was a naval commodore who never acknowledged my mental disorders, refused to pay for my medication, treatment, or schooling, and continues to refuse to pay child support even though I’m classified as a disabled individual by the federal government. All because nothing can ever satisfy him. Not even the dozens of women he slept with while he was still married to my mother
Mine is similar. He somehow holds it against me that I have PTSD after a stint of homelessness (which was because he literally stole my home out from under my nose during lockdown)
The federal government would classify a hangnail as a disability if they could get away with it. The vast majority of "mental disorders" are just Corrupt Doctors taking payoffs from Big Pharma to get as many people dependent on their overpriced drugs as possible. I doubt you know much about your father's sex life that didn't come from your angry mother. Maybe stop blaming him for everything wrong in your life for five minutes and try seeing his side of things. He didn't become a naval commander by coddling weakness. That doesn't mean he doesn't care.
"using his father's influence" is one way to look at it but I have another theory.. "Shortcut" for those that don't know is men live life with the mere help of their own mental and physical abilities and try as hard as they can to make it in life. So he took a shortcut in life.. so basically life is definitely now easier for him to live and navigate.. so life is so easy for him compared to others who try their own .so that's cheating.
There are some people that will never approve of you no matter how hard you try or how great you succeed. These are the people you need to move on from, but sadly, are often the ones people put the most time and effort trying to impress.
Soldier Boy in this franchise is like Thanos in d mcu, the franchises cn stand without them but they give that special effects to the entire story, characters and audience. Was thinking about giving up watching the series cuz Homelander was never afraid of anything,...bt when he came, well show became freaking amazing and intense. Both heroes and villains now fear something dark and twisted
I'm sure plenty of samurai dads in the JP feudal era were also disappointed if their sons decided to pick up guns, instead, but we all know how that went, right?
I am legitimately SHOCKED that Soldier Boy wasn't regularly beaten as a child, let alone never! Even more so considering when he was born. That's definitely a bet I would've lost.
