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A Real Styling Statement | 2022 Buick Envision Avenir Review 

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@bobmohr4952
@bobmohr4952 Год назад
My wife bought a brand new 2021 Envision Essence when they 1st hit the market. FWD with a full panoramic roof. Has driven it for 2 1/2 years hasn’t found a fault to date. Absolutely loves this vehicle. Comfortable, quiet ride as with most Buick vehicles. Two things stand out from 1st generation Envisions, do not need to run premium fuel, and instead of sharing the platform with the Chevy Equinox it now rides on the Cadillac XT4 platform. One more thing is the obvious beautiful design changes. All in all good move Buick it cost less than most luxury SUV’s and competes with most of them.
@robertehlers3757
@robertehlers3757 Год назад
Congrats on another great review, Brian. Your presentation style is so smooth and uninterrupted, just like a regular conversation should be. Keep up the excellent work!
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Год назад
It’s amazing how much the interior of this looks like my Bolt EUV. The steering wheel and controls, stalk controls, infotainment, shifter, window controls, interior door handles, even the cup holders look the same as my Bolt EUV
@porterbrass
@porterbrass Год назад
Great review. Since I bought my first Mazda CX5 in 2015 we’ve seen nearly every brand come out with their own copycat version. The Buick is about as close a copy (in appearance) to the CX5 one could get without being sued for patent infringement. Buicks used to be our favorite cars until the rendezvous that chewed through brakes and wheel bearings. After the AWD failed, we swore- never again. I’ve been super happy in my second CX5 GT and probably will stick with the original!
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 Год назад
I think it actually resembles the CX50!
@DarrellColeMCO
@DarrellColeMCO Год назад
My gf bought one recently and she loves it! She's still learning to use the parking and massage features but she's all about it! I think the biggest compliment to the Envision is that I haven't heard anyone comment that it's a Chinese built product, which goes to show how quality built it is.
@davidw5731
@davidw5731 Год назад
Unfortunately, my STRONG advice would be to do another vehicle. I recently bought a 2022 loaded Avenir in the exact same color. I am already dealing with technology/ system issues. Most recently, an expensive front sensor which Buick is claiming was somehow hit by a rock or something, when the entire front end of the vehicle is still pristine and absolutely no damage. I am forced to pay a big repair bill for the part. The technology is plentiful, but nowhere near as reliable as my last vehicle, a BMW X3. Extremely disappointing for someone who drove a Buick Lacrosse that I liked for nearly a decade before.
@Wextopher
@Wextopher Год назад
Nice reverse zoom in interior view around the 5:06 mark. This originally was a zoom in, so the bicycles in the background are going backwards. Cheeky but useful editing trick.
@MrOktsx
@MrOktsx Год назад
Cornering lamps have been around for 60 years. It's an easy implementation on most vehicles. Used to be optional on some really cheap cars in 70s and 80s. Something that's been decontented from most vehicles because of cost.
@elliottmanning4116
@elliottmanning4116 Год назад
11:38 Those are called cornering lights.
@TalismanPHX
@TalismanPHX Год назад
Lol..... I laughed at that remark in the clip.... but I'm old and owned cars with cornering lights
@arevee9429
@arevee9429 Год назад
I'll take the Venza, thanks. Nice review, young assistant. Tell Alex to ditch the roller bags and show us rear hatches with seats folded down - as you did.
@Buc_Stops_Here
@Buc_Stops_Here Год назад
Own the first generation Envision. Now approaching 5 years old. Never had a problem with about 66,000 miles now. Plan to keep it at least 10 years if not more and 120,000 miles. Hopefully continues to not have any issues (most my cars last that long without many problems because I pick cars not the first year in production from certain brands like Toyota, Subaru, and GM). Still like it better than the Venza, Countryman, and XC40 just like when I bought it. So does my family - particularly on long highway trips.
@RangerBob2541
@RangerBob2541 Год назад
Nice job on the video Brian. Although I'm not necessarily a Buick fan, this SUV deserves a loot see. Thanks..
@AllStars2525
@AllStars2525 Год назад
I planned on buying one, but there are so few of them to buy! Great design, great value, and great quality and reliability! But no dealers have any Avenirs to selll. I'm giving very serious consideration of a Volvvo XC 40.
@mark_u
@mark_u Год назад
While the Envision is the best looking Buick today, I think the Toyota Venza and the Mazda CX-5/CX-50 are more compelling options in the semi-premium compact crossover space.
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB Год назад
My parents have been driving buick sedans for years, but they are really enjoying their new XT5.
@baldheadlogic
@baldheadlogic Год назад
Great Review. This Envision is one of the best GM vehicles exterior styling wise. I would look at one if they offered it in a hybrid. Oh well.
@Buc_Stops_Here
@Buc_Stops_Here Год назад
They come with a light hybrid (the engine turns off at traffic lights) but for a hybrid, look at Toyota.
@chadmark88
@chadmark88 Год назад
I've owned my 2021 Envision Avenir since August of 2021 and love it. I sold my 2017 Cadillac CT6 because it rode too firm and I was having trouble getting out of it with my current health issues. I owned a 2014 Enclave before the CT6 and I like the Envision better ( the Envision doesn't ride quite as smooth, but it's the perfect size for me ) The 2.0 turbocharged four has enough power. Unlike most people, I actually like the push/pull transmission selector - much better than the stiff, clunky handles in the CT6 and Enclave. I love the articulating headlights with the "splash" of light when turning a corner at night - it makes driving at night much easier than my previous cars.
@drivesanoldcar
@drivesanoldcar Год назад
praise for the embedded infotainment
@donnalmich8398
@donnalmich8398 Год назад
Would the seat be good for a 6 ft 2 inch man?
@scott8919
@scott8919 Год назад
There's something about GM where no matter how much they try to make a car luxurious, it still looks rental car cheap on the inside. They can check off the boxes of what makes a car luxurious but the result remains thoroughly mediocre.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
Well I see the same argument applying to brands like infiniti or Lexus.
@caglioso
@caglioso Год назад
Yea, the excessive piano black and janky looking gauges are a huge miss. Those two changes alone would have made a big difference.
@bradyb9929
@bradyb9929 Год назад
@@naveenthemachineyou can’t compare this to a Lexus interior
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
@@bradyb9929 yeah you can. Just like the venza is more luxurious inside than the nx The Buick looks far nicer inside than the nx.
@fycfyc1
@fycfyc1 Год назад
Because your brain already has a negative image of the brand. If this car is marked as some brand you have a favorable view of you won't feel this at all.
@maxwella2079
@maxwella2079 Год назад
The envision is the best looking of the bunch. If only they could get 500 to 700lb off, it would handle better and perform better. The venza seems the most sensible and Pragmatic choice. Decent performance and great resale value.. plus Toyota reliability. If I really had to choose, buick would be an emotional buy but Venza, the sensible buy. At the end, everyone should choose what resonates best with them.
@marcusbrutus1999
@marcusbrutus1999 Год назад
The Envision is made in China Maxwell, I wondered if you were aware of that pal.
@bsmack66
@bsmack66 Год назад
@@marcusbrutus1999 Practically everything you buy is made in China.
@ajesuale
@ajesuale Год назад
Both the XC 40 (3,967) and the venza (3,913) weight the same as the buick (3,932)
@ajesuale
@ajesuale Год назад
Same with the country man (3,926) so why the focus on weight?
@thomasmcginnis7526
@thomasmcginnis7526 Год назад
WHERE IS ALEX!? Whos this guy???? This is madness
@the_jarmel
@the_jarmel Год назад
Those bike riders were talented Lmao 🤣... Happy new year Brian .... Have a beautiful day Everyone ✌️
@BigKy-Mart
@BigKy-Mart Год назад
I saw that and had to rewind to see if I was seeing things!
@tednugent1100
@tednugent1100 Год назад
Surprisingly acceptable
@gene978
@gene978 Год назад
Those front Center Air Vents on the dash look so small like you wouldn’t get enough A/C on a HOT Day.
@shopwithaaron
@shopwithaaron Год назад
So many options or packages for the top of the lines Avenir...should just include all those wanted goodies under the avenir label...GM feels too BMW now! Thx!
@TalismanPHX
@TalismanPHX Год назад
I'll take a nicely optioned Venza Limited for the superior resale and reliability
@jayhiggins5239
@jayhiggins5239 Год назад
'Perceived'
@purpleman4790
@purpleman4790 Год назад
I tryed this car about 3 months ago and i was super hyped that it had adaptive suspension, but it wasn't comfortable like i thought it would be and in sport mode, it doesn't have enough body control. I finally bought a Mazda CX-50, it's more comfortable, has better handling and it's better imo in almost every aspect.
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 Год назад
I bought a CX 50 a month ago too! I’m very happy with my choice!
@aurora60505
@aurora60505 Год назад
I had to back the tape up to see if I saw it right. Yes, I did see bicycles going backwards in this video!
@L4sleeko
@L4sleeko Год назад
All business fast moving review. I appreciate that.
@donnalmich8398
@donnalmich8398 Год назад
Could i get a white interior for a gray or silver envision?
@drewyager4020
@drewyager4020 Год назад
Great car. Coming from China it’s hard to swallow that price
@MarcNeilson
@MarcNeilson Год назад
Odd that there are no rain sensing wipers. Great review BTW!
@sammydavis991
@sammydavis991 Год назад
It looks great
@christhornycroft3686
@christhornycroft3686 Год назад
Excellent review. For me, it's either this or the least sporty Camry. I have chronic pain and I'm disabled, so I need a comfortable car. It's a shame Buick doesn't make a sedan anymore, but it is what it is. Obviously, given that I'm far more interested in the comfort side of things, your scores for the sportiness and weight don't worry me. My first car was a 1990 Chrysler 5th Avenue and while probably nothing will ever touch that car unless you get into the $150+ range for comfort (I have the fantastic velour seats that nobody uses anymore), this looks like it will do the job. My 300C was probably the most comfortable new car I've ever driven. I have no problem being that guy driving the "grandpa car." Better than being that guy popping a lot of pain pills and spending lots of money on the chiropractor.
@jeffs6090
@jeffs6090 Год назад
I still wish they offered it available with the interior of the Avenir and the exterior of the ST package. I like the black wheels and trim, and want the more luxurious interior.
@borregoimages8117
@borregoimages8117 Год назад
Interior thoughts: That second row vent set up looks so chincy. The previous generation had the tri climate zone set up and designed more tastefully. Cargo thoughts: 25cuft? That's awfully compact. I assumed the Kia Sportage competed with this kind of SUV but are they in different classes, because the Sportage has 39.6cuft of cargo.
@cherylnettles7598
@cherylnettles7598 Год назад
Be careful I obtained a 22 in April with the chip was missing. They have not contacted me as yet to get my heated seats are heated steering wheel.
@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan
@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan Год назад
My dream American SUV! Terrific job bro.
@sprague49
@sprague49 Год назад
Manufactured in Shanghai, Jere.
@Justacogg
@Justacogg Год назад
If you wait a couple of months, you could buy one directly from the Chinese manufacture, with the Chinese name included! If you want to trust your family with a Chinese car.
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum Год назад
Great review!
@stephenwierzbicki4463
@stephenwierzbicki4463 Год назад
Awesome Video, Keep Up the Good Work 👍!
@boban61
@boban61 Год назад
Is your phone Google Pixel?
@michaeldcadogan1119
@michaeldcadogan1119 Год назад
Which is better Buick Envision Avenir or Jaguar F Pace
@vladrazym9955
@vladrazym9955 Год назад
Looks like mazda from 2014. Whats so exiting about it?
@Tanktaco
@Tanktaco Год назад
It's hard to look at something like this when Mazda exists.
@lilred1107
@lilred1107 Год назад
Mazda rides like crap
@OldDood
@OldDood Год назад
Sorry but I would take the Toyota Venza over this Buick. Trust me the Venza rides a LOT better then the Buick. The Venza is Lexus Like. I was born in Buick Town and I loved Buick but that was 20th Century Buick and not what they have become today. For example the LeSabre Limited was a dream to drive. However, today I would take Toyota over all of GM. Mainly reliability. Something you did not mention about this Envision. Because with the cost of vehicles today then RELIABILITY and LONGEVITY are Paramount. Something that GM has forgotten.
@AlaskaErik
@AlaskaErik Год назад
I'm surprised it doesn't have auto vehicle hold. Even my Subaru has it and I love it. I use it all the time.
@scott8919
@scott8919 Год назад
My HR-V has it too.
@pxtract
@pxtract Год назад
Weird, I own this vehicle in China and it has the auto hold, it replaced the traction control button and the traction control is integrated into the center screen...I don't understand why they removed auto hold for the US version.
@elliottmanning4116
@elliottmanning4116 Год назад
It might accessed inside the touchscreen. Some vehicles are like that
@AlaskaErik
@AlaskaErik Год назад
@@elliottmanning4116 My neighbor has one and I've driven it. It doesn't have AVH.
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 Год назад
@@pxtract I think in China they get the rain sensing wipers which we don’t get here in the US🤷‍♀️
@Justacogg
@Justacogg Год назад
It’s a nice looking SUV but it will be a cold day in hell before I purchase a fully assembled and shipped from China built car masquerading as a General Motors Buick envision!
@PsychicOracle
@PsychicOracle Год назад
Cute as heck. The car’s decent too
@danschubring7957
@danschubring7957 Год назад
Glad to see the latest review. I am very impressed with the Envision and drove it a few weeks ago. I’ll likely choose it to replace my disappointing NX late next year. I’m curious what Buick will do with the ‘24 version as it would be time for the mid-cycle refresh. Make mine an Avenir Garnet/Beige AWD, please.
@hamidmghazi
@hamidmghazi Год назад
What makes the nx disappointing?
@matthewweber1832
@matthewweber1832 Год назад
I'm very interested in both the Buick Envision Avenir and the Toyota Venza Limited (top / fully loaded trim levels of both). Pricing, features, and acceleration all appear to be similar, and both have a smooth ride. Overall, I like the exterior styling of the Envision a little more, and the Envision seems to have a slightly more luxurious interior. But the Venza's advantages are its fuel economy (it's a hybrid) and its perceived reliability and resale value (it's a Toyota). Envision owners, would you please comment on your vehicle's fuel economy and reliability? Are you getting close to the EPA number for fuel economy, and do you just use regular (87 octane) gas? Have you had any serious issues with reliability thus far?
@shenanigan3083
@shenanigan3083 Год назад
My 2023 has less then 2,000 miles and transmission went.. mpg 25 mostly city.. tested tranny fluid and it had metal flakes in it. Noticed a noise at 500 miles.... But I do like it just unlucky
@bpsmith0587
@bpsmith0587 Год назад
When 2023 Rav4 Hybrid review? Curious if the cabin is quieter this year.
@bubdunk1257
@bubdunk1257 Год назад
Nice vehicle and very good value
@suttonssuperstars7679
@suttonssuperstars7679 Год назад
So it’s a Mazda CX 9 now?
@keithck3720
@keithck3720 Год назад
That's what I was thinking. Looks like they just took Mazda's design and Buickified it.
@suttonssuperstars7679
@suttonssuperstars7679 Год назад
@@keithck3720 that front clip is really close.
@zalo_tuandriverga
@zalo_tuandriverga Год назад
nah Japan cars way more quality
@randyreynolds1045
@randyreynolds1045 5 месяцев назад
Really great SUV❤
@FantomLightning
@FantomLightning Год назад
Brian! 😍
@jean-bernardjoly5920
@jean-bernardjoly5920 Год назад
It would be nice to see a comp between the envision and BMW X1. They seem to be close rival
@kevincinnamontoast3669
@kevincinnamontoast3669 Год назад
Nurburgring time? Is it trail rated like a jeep wrangler?
@reserva120
@reserva120 Год назад
You’re joking right?
@TalismanPHX
@TalismanPHX Год назад
Bro, it's a dang BUICK
@paulpellico3797
@paulpellico3797 Год назад
sorry... did you tell the class where this car is made?
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Год назад
It’s made in a GM factory. :P
@paulpellico3797
@paulpellico3797 Год назад
@@ALMX5DP where is this gm factory?
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Год назад
@@paulpellico3797 I think the northern hemisphere. :P
@vicariousity3046
@vicariousity3046 Год назад
It’s built in Yantai China through a joint venture with Chinese car,aker SAIC
@paulpellico3797
@paulpellico3797 Год назад
@@vicariousity3046 yes, i knew...but was sarcastically implying this reviewer kinda left out importantdetails when reviewing this car. this is happening more and more as they get payment from the manufacturer to do the reviews
@ekeugokwe7188
@ekeugokwe7188 Год назад
When you hear Alex himself review this SUV 🚗 . You learn more and get complex issues simplified............. He just can't be like Alex
@OldDood
@OldDood Год назад
He tries though. He is a Fine Young Man. I would suggest that he 'Slows Down' a bit. I had to back up and repeat a lot. Speaks to fast.
@Tanktaco
@Tanktaco Год назад
Wouldn't be Alex 2 if no OCD.
@rdm925
@rdm925 Год назад
Buick is my favorite USA brand. Nice, but does it's reliability match up with my Mazda CX-5 Signature?
@pfink70
@pfink70 Год назад
Buick may be a USA brand, but this vehicle is assembled in China...even the one's sold in the U.S. No judgement...just sayin'.
@rdm925
@rdm925 Год назад
@@pfink70 , That's right and a major reason why I wouldn't buy one.
@TalismanPHX
@TalismanPHX Год назад
It's reliability is a little below Mazda
@tomsaikaly3634
@tomsaikaly3634 Год назад
@@rdm925 does that mean that you don't own anything that's made in China?
@rdm925
@rdm925 Год назад
@@tomsaikaly3634 , No, but I'd rather buy a Japanese or USA made car. Frankly probably most of what we buy these days is made in China whether we like it or not.
@ryanlittleton5615
@ryanlittleton5615 Год назад
Yo Norm where you at buddy?
@marcusbrutus1999
@marcusbrutus1999 Год назад
Brian is a worthwhile addition to the show, but he needs to slow down. He could not speak any quicker if he tried. As a non-American, I struggle to understand him most of the time. Regarding the car, the Envision is exclusively made in China. so that is a non-starter for me. It is a shame there is no hybrid option. Keep up the good work Brian.
@John-209
@John-209 Год назад
Alex is looking young
@tubasweb
@tubasweb Год назад
Pixel 6 PRO? Nice.
@churchmythbusters1863
@churchmythbusters1863 4 месяца назад
Cabin noise measurements are useless unless comparing on the exact same roads.
@austinfaberman1069
@austinfaberman1069 Год назад
Dude's never seen *cornering lights* before? Definitely a feature GM used in the 1980s. Looks like Alex needs to give some more training here...
@zalo_tuandriverga
@zalo_tuandriverga Год назад
I hate when american made cars placing the cruise control buttons on the left side of the steering wheel. Why?????
@wmalden
@wmalden Год назад
“Whisper Beige “ is gray? I think you are color blind, buddy!
@pawelkilian3890
@pawelkilian3890 Год назад
I hate rain sensing wipers
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 Год назад
I love ‘em!
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum Год назад
The last former Opel alive is still a GM
@stannovacki2406
@stannovacki2406 Год назад
Per the MotorBiscuit web site, "The Buick Envision is built at GM’s plant in Shanghai, China. " Hard pass.
@cjc2010
@cjc2010 Год назад
If I were Chinese or collecting Social Security checks, I'd be all over this car. But alas!
@nineradvocate
@nineradvocate Год назад
Styling ripped directly from a 7 year old Mazda= Buick innovation. Realize that we all have verbal ticks, but IMHO you should try to drop all the "super" modifiers. You don't need them. Good job otherwise.
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 Год назад
Another blob going down the street .... 😮‍💨 SMH
@chrish6373
@chrish6373 Год назад
Yep. A heavy 5-seater blob that wastes all that turbo power getting out of its own way.
@Rocket9944
@Rocket9944 Год назад
Nice looking car but I didn't realize they still made buick, I never see one on the road
@bobmohr4952
@bobmohr4952 Год назад
Take the blinders off boy they are all over the road.
@Rocket9944
@Rocket9944 Год назад
@@bobmohr4952 , I drive around all day for work, the last two days I've been looking for a Buick, I have not seen one Buick on the road.
@Rocket9944
@Rocket9944 Год назад
@@bobmohr4952 , Take into account I don't live in a retirement village like you.
@chocolatemilk912
@chocolatemilk912 Год назад
It might look nice, but it is still a pile of scrap metal on wheels. Go elsewhere y’all.
@DWK33
@DWK33 Год назад
2 years on…Buick still doesn’t market these at all
@111danish111
@111danish111 Год назад
Which town is this ?
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 Год назад
Atlanta...Piedmont Park area
@amcrae35
@amcrae35 Год назад
Who’s this guy?
@discerningmind
@discerningmind Год назад
Trying to slip under the radar here leaving out key words to let everyone know my original comment was removed for stating not to buy this car due to supporting where it's built and that we need jobs here. We're being watched and cnsrd for sure. I hope the Big-G isn't sophisticated enough to remove this one too.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Год назад
Your comment was likely removed for some type of derogatory word or phrase. YT is cracking down on that.
@discerningmind
@discerningmind Год назад
@@ALMX5DP Thanks for offering that. But no, there wasn't anything like that at all. It was a respectful request to people, and it included a link to a recent page in US News of cars built here in the USA.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Год назад
@@discerningmind external links are also often removed (in case they lead to scams or viruses).
@discerningmind
@discerningmind Год назад
@@ALMX5DP Thank you. I'd say the times we're living in caused me to overthink. But on the other hand, I've never had that happen before, though the URLs have been a clear link to a business and not a page within a news organization as was with this. I appreciate what you offered, and I feel the better for it. Thank you, you're very kind to take time for me.
@patrickgoncalves3878
@patrickgoncalves3878 Год назад
This is a total copy of my 2023 Mazda CX50.
@7techno77
@7techno77 Год назад
Yet Hyundai and kia can steal beat with tech features.
@reserva120
@reserva120 Год назад
A review is not just listing
@richardb.5691
@richardb.5691 Год назад
"Made in China" or, at least, assembled in China. 🙂
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 Год назад
just seems like such a waste.
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong Год назад
US tow ratings are such a farce, this vehicle could easily tow ~4000 lbs but it's rated for 1500 lbs, ridiculous. The only reaosn they do this is to push consumers towards more expensive vehicles.
@kevincinnamontoast3669
@kevincinnamontoast3669 Год назад
And liability reasons.
@Elricky124
@Elricky124 Год назад
Said the expert? Jk
@iamhassan9943
@iamhassan9943 Год назад
Yea, no they are not. Two, TWO, different friends pulled weight over their tow ratings because they thought the same as you. Both had to get their transmissions replaced. I couldn’t believe it at first but after the second friend burned his minivan I knew it was true.
@bruddahmanmatt
@bruddahmanmatt Год назад
Show me a similarly powered compact crossover that DOESN’T have additional trans cooling and shorter gearing that can pull 4K lbs.
@CrazyWeeMonkey
@CrazyWeeMonkey Год назад
@@bruddahmanmatt It may not be 4000lbs but the Mazda CX-50 and Volvo XC40 can both tow 3500lbs.
@GaryBoyd02
@GaryBoyd02 Год назад
Speaking of hips.......🤪
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 Год назад
Hips don’t lie!😂
@tomdrummy4984
@tomdrummy4984 Год назад
Built in China ?
@reserva120
@reserva120 Год назад
Slow down - learn inflection
@minniesaab7255
@minniesaab7255 Год назад
👍🏻🚘 & ❤🚶‍♂️
@WilliamPozo
@WilliamPozo Год назад
Chinese junk?
@richrigney4610
@richrigney4610 Год назад
Wow, way too rushed and robotic review. It would seem you have no passion for automobiles and obviously can't remember features without needing notes. Slow down a bit, don't make it sound as if you are just reading quickly through a list of data on the vehicle. Know about the vehicle first. If you aren't passionate about automobiles it's going to show in your reviews as it does here.
@robing9278
@robing9278 Год назад
I find his presentation style to be very similar to Alex's, which I assume is by design. With this sort of vehicle, how much passion can anyone be expected to have, really.
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