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A renaissance -- the coming end of human work | Kevin Surace | TEDxOrangeCoast 

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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. Kevin Surace materfully delivers his view on the new coming renaissance where automation helps us in many aspects of our lives. He says: "Humans can choose to invent, contribute, execute and master many fields. All in one lifetime. Or Not"
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Kevin Surace is an innovator and entrepreneur and CEO of Appvance which drives scalability and performance of apps and websites. Kevin has led organizations instilling innovation, technology, and revenue growth including Serious Energy (from 0 to 420 employees), Perfect Commerce (supply chain software), CommerceNet (non-profit), General Magic (virtual assistant), WebKnight (Java authoring) and Air Communications (smartphone). He has been featured in BusinessWeek, Time, Fortune, Forbes and CNN and keynoted hundreds of gatherings from INC5000 to TED to the halls of congress. He has been Entrepreneur of the Year (Inc. Magazine), named a top 15 innovator of this decade (CNBC), awarded Tech Pioneer (World Economic Forum), nominated as Innovator of the Year (PlanetForward) and inducted into the Innovation Hall of Fame (RIT). At Serious Energy he helped to retrofit some 70,000 projects including the Empire State Building and NY Stock Exchange. He serves on 6 boards and has been awarded 24 US patents. In his spare time, he is also a well known music director, producer, arranger and percussionist.
About TEDx, x = independently organized event In the spirit of ideas worth spreading, TEDx is a program of local, self-organized events that bring people together to share a TED-like experience. At a TEDx event, TEDTalks video and live speakers combine to spark deep discussion and connection in a small group. These local, self-organized events are branded TEDx, where x = independently organized TED event. The TED Conference provides general guidance for the TEDx program, but individual TEDx events are self-organized.* (*Subject to certain rules and regulations)

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@ronaldlogan3525
@ronaldlogan3525 4 года назад
This guy does a really good job about telling us how humans will not be needed for anything at all but he never explains who will buy any of this automation or how they will be able to afford it. He seems real excited about the technology and not at all concerned for people or society.
@lilyblossom1240
@lilyblossom1240 6 лет назад
automation is coming a lot sooner than people think. it could be in the next few years. tech is moving at such a fast pace.
@peaceall43650
@peaceall43650 7 лет назад
it's now 2017, and the things he is saying are more and more becoming a reality
@dtshifter
@dtshifter 7 лет назад
I want this to be true and my fantasy is that people devote themselves to self improvement and focusing on science like we see in Star Trek. The sad truth is that our world is run by banker and corporate elite. What is their motivation to allow average people to survive if they are not needed to support the elite.
@theeccentricwriter4657
@theeccentricwriter4657 7 лет назад
John O'Neill Because they need people to buy the shit they make.
@crossroads8370
@crossroads8370 6 лет назад
Son of Liberty maybe Universal Basic Income if robots take most peoples jobs.
@sebacea7839
@sebacea7839 5 лет назад
their motivation is cheap labor force
@unknownx7252
@unknownx7252 5 лет назад
@@crossroads8370 there is a candidate running for president and his main platform is a UBI, his name is Andrew Yang, check him out on the Joe Rogan podcast and the breakfast club.
@donicamcarthur2500
@donicamcarthur2500 2 года назад
@@crossroads8370 The Venus Project by Jacque Fresco
@ericdew2021
@ericdew2021 4 года назад
There won't be an end to work. There will be more work. But this new work will be more rewarding, more meaningful, less drudgery (except for the usual amounts that has to happen in any endeavor), more fun, less dangerous. They will be work that we want to do, like digging around for fossils or writing music or books, or running faster to beat our personal best from last year.
@tehlanu
@tehlanu 7 лет назад
This is a very inciteful video. Jacque Fresco's vision of the future in the Venus Project will become a reality as we make the necessary transition to avoid the ecological, social and economic upheaval that can be seen starting to surface around the world.
@rivkahfrench3900
@rivkahfrench3900 5 лет назад
True visionary. This definitely holds up 5 years later.
@tuxmode
@tuxmode 5 лет назад
Unlimited vacation for everyone!
@mwu0000
@mwu0000 7 лет назад
Wow! Still nice to watch the talk 2 years later!
@ricardokaptzan5713
@ricardokaptzan5713 7 лет назад
Are we returning to Paradise, now with our slaves? Or we're going to a scenario described by "Utopia 14" - Kurt Vonnegut? Remember that in Renaissance a very few people (rich) participate and enjoyed the fruits of Art, Science, etc...
@db-mp2of
@db-mp2of 7 лет назад
Music is hardly new, but inspires us everyday Inspiration drives us humans
@MindandQiR1
@MindandQiR1 4 года назад
things are coming true... ANDREW YANG 2020
@moonlightmelodrama
@moonlightmelodrama 4 года назад
Automation's big problem: all the gains in productivity go to the owners of capital. Not us.
@ReallyHappened
@ReallyHappened 6 лет назад
This is a great idea and the whole world should do this. Even third world countries that have corrupt governenments can afford it when the politicians start investing in the population instead of themselves! Time to implement this and let people stop being enslaved but be free to think and do something better with their lives!
@ibraveheart5700
@ibraveheart5700 6 лет назад
I don't mind working as long as I can get paid well enough so I can actually enjoy my life and not just live for my next paycheck. I've honestly considered suicide a few times cause I'm only making $11.23 an hour and having to pay Rent, Bills, Car insurance, Gas, Household supplies, Puting food on the table. And then people tell me to save my money and I'm thinking to myself "What money?" People also talking about saving for the future but yet I'm barely surviving right now as it is. Something needs to change.
@alanroberts5056
@alanroberts5056 5 лет назад
I BraveHeart we all should be pushing for a livable or living wage. Everypone would be entitled.
@donicamcarthur2500
@donicamcarthur2500 2 года назад
Please hold on. Maybe people coming together in community or consolidation can also help.
@snakeman1998
@snakeman1998 4 года назад
Once I started looking into robotic systems, AI, exponential growth and UBI universal basic income (freedom dividend) - it's amazing how many TED Talks there are and how many great minds have researched this and put their information out for everyone to see, hear and read. I now support Andrew Yang for president because he is the candidate that has a vision of what will happen and what is happening. He is forward-thinking on how to go with the future and not being overcome by it
@hakusansaku8800
@hakusansaku8800 8 лет назад
You know most TED Talks are really not so great but have millions of views, this one shows what future is ahead of us at least technogically. And has only 4k, My question is which country in the world will first hit 90 percent unemployment? It sounds great that everything will be automatically done by machines, but how long will it take to introduce a basic income on a national scale?
@lowkeybeat
@lowkeybeat 8 лет назад
lol we can even get a maximum wage or at least a minimum that meets cost of living. capitalism will stand in the way of progress.
@hakusansaku8800
@hakusansaku8800 7 лет назад
I have watched "Sam Harris: Can we build AI without losing control over it?" and human lethargy was not mentioned. I think for lethargy best examples would be children of very rich people or aristokrates from the past. They don't need to work or to provide any kind of labor. I also think that virtual environments, video games can be a intermediate solution. I've seen a person who has played 25.000 hours World of Warcraft, this are 10 years of non-stop commitmet to this game. I think there are already more than enough sources of distraction to fill up the whole available lifetime. ingenuity, creativity, and discovery can also be spent in the virtual world. And many people already prefer that kind of lifestyple over the one which is mostly grounded in the real world.
@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583
NO NO NO NO NO. YOU HAVE nearly a billion peole starving. you have half the planet's popultion toiling and suffering in slums not being able to do anyting. who lazy? We educate humans now to be wage slaves, if they're lucking enough to have a stupid mindless job wating preicious years of their lives for the 1% richest. In moneyless high automated paradigm we can educate to people to be problem solvers and to do what they LOVE TO DO!1
@namexox
@namexox 6 лет назад
Haku Sansaku to simply answer your question Arabs have never worked for thousands of years, there phylosophy is why work when you can enjoy the fruits of life.
@effexon
@effexon 4 года назад
This is plot by elite to sell this idea, and then something changes and they stick to it, more easy when already have all power. Eg. Amazon history. Has Bezos offered basic income from profit? No. Has he removed people from Amazon? No. More people working than when they started. This tech talk reminds of "doomsday cult", that world will end when technology will reach some point.
@barnabasszabolcs8708
@barnabasszabolcs8708 5 лет назад
I have the luxury to not having to have a job and I still give myself one and wanna be good at it. Jobs can be awesome, it depends mostly on the community.
@AndresRodriguezIGN
@AndresRodriguezIGN 9 лет назад
Certainly technology could improve our lives in an amazing way. Good talk Kevin! And also excellent expositor!
@mrtampham
@mrtampham 8 лет назад
Kevin Surace always brings it home, great talk.
@couchpoet1
@couchpoet1 8 лет назад
Calm down
@kobi2187
@kobi2187 7 лет назад
The previous industrial revolution didn't bring this renaissance that he talks of. on the contrary, it enslaved the artisan villages as one screw in the factory.
@mythaksindorei244
@mythaksindorei244 5 лет назад
A really uplifting speech! Thank you.
@iamedyson
@iamedyson 3 года назад
Absolutely incredible presentation!
@geospirit1
@geospirit1 6 лет назад
A very nice thought provoking presentation on the meaning of humans beings existence.
@charleslaferriere5992
@charleslaferriere5992 8 лет назад
I've been trying to ponder WHY AM I here as much as I can. BUT. I'm tied to a CRIMINAL AND VIOLENT BANKING SYSTEM. Which forces me to make a PROMISE of SLAVE WORK for the next 25 YEARS to have MY BASE NEEDS COVERED. And I live in a "DEVELOPPED" country.
@joaodecarvalho7012
@joaodecarvalho7012 6 лет назад
Darwin already answered the question of why we are here.
@jorgegomez524
@jorgegomez524 7 лет назад
well, i guess we could always do TED presentations in the future
@EJL2004
@EJL2004 7 лет назад
ugh. I love my career. All the history behind seafaring, sure history isn't the future, but it makes me happy. I suppose I could have a private yacht by means of just randomly generating one without having any fiscal means.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 7 лет назад
Resource based economy for a better future.
@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583
This guys must know about the RBE. Now I think people will finally understand a RBE. with the phycopahtic addicted to power and ficticious money 1% and the nonse of paying to live and paying for energy. This guy didnt say a moneyless socieity. I think is approach work. IN the end. The money has to go.
@TheBookRant
@TheBookRant 7 лет назад
The rich will likely just let us starve. They won't need us.
@jorgegomez524
@jorgegomez524 7 лет назад
+Bruno Muraca i can assure you a hungry mob its the rich worse nightmare, in the past always turns on them in the end
@TheBookRant
@TheBookRant 7 лет назад
They will hire enough people and have means to defend themselves through automated technology. Keeping healthcare from us will cause many to die from no treatment. They will always win. We need a political change but that will never happen.
@jorgegomez524
@jorgegomez524 7 лет назад
+Bruno Muraca well, the family of Louis XVI are still rich, thats a fact, some are even monarch although not in France but poor Louis and his wife have lost there head. Romanoff as far as i know are not alive.
@jamesestep2797
@jamesestep2797 9 лет назад
Renaissance may come sooner than expected - amazing how retirement can so quickly change the description we have of ourselves when retirement essentially ends 'who we are'...... No amount of technology can change that - and we may find we lose 'who we are' when we aren't 'who or what' we were in the early years.....
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 7 лет назад
There won't be a perfect job because there won't be a job. Yes, this means the end to economic slavery but unless we have another mean of distributing wealth to people, this could be a dystopia of unemployment for the majority of the population. Companies will buy the robots, improve production but the wages which once distributed wealth to the employees would just go to the company and it's shareholders. With the end point being all jobs both those we know of and those created by technology being filled by robots and AI, the argument that technology not only destroys jobs but brings new jobs will no longer be true. Sure, during the Renaissance scientists and artists flourished but only those with wealthy sponsors, they essentially prostituted themselves. We are moving from being economic slaves to being economic prostitutes. There is a potential way of avoiding the dystopic potential of this inevitable problem and it's Unconditional Basic Income. This talk is doing us a disservice by only pitching automation as an Utopia. We will have to work for this Utopia by implementing admittedly socialist concepts like UBI but it is the only card left up our sleeves that might work. The timeframe is also off. The peak hourly wage to cost of living ratio peaked in the 70's, employment has effectively been in decline ever since. Economists call what we are in the Jobless recovery. Before the oil price collapse of 2014, drilling rigs required 30 operators, now they require 2 operators, that's over 90% drop in staffing requirements. A lot of people work as drivers, not just taxis but buses and trucks. Indeed autonomous vehicles alone could raise unemployment to 45%, the great depression was 25%. In 2012, the Japanese ran a simulation of the human brain neuron by neuron and it took 40 minutes to process one second of activity, this means that by Moore's law, the computationally worst way of achieving an AI by simulating a human brain would be possible in real time by 2029. That's not very far away but it's when technically all jobs could theoretically be performed by machines. Obviously, it'll take time for costs to come down but that's when it's definitely that the majority of the population will be without work and how would they pay for their food and shelter. We need to address that before we can call it an Utopia.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 7 лет назад
+w0g I only mentioned the top down AI approach of simulating an actual human brain neuron by neuron to show that a digital intelligence equivalent to a human brain could technically exist even if we do not research AI further and only the eventual progress in computer hardware continues. An actual neuron by neuron simulation would be very inefficient computationally so it's unlikely to be what would be used but it proves that eventually no job whether existing or yet to be developed couldn't be done by automation and computers.
@danlightened
@danlightened 4 года назад
I'm all for automation and UBI but it's implementation is difficult. With a few corporates having all the robots and AI, they could usurp the governments and become all powerful (skynet). Who is to then ensure and reinforce the UBI? They could just get rid of 90% of the humans and there would be no one to stop them. The problem always has been human greed for power, fame etc. Maybe if we teach kids good values and that there's enough for everybody if the extravagance is skipped, maybe it will work.
@tyrone1son
@tyrone1son 5 лет назад
I remember investing in General magic.
@kaseyemling1621
@kaseyemling1621 6 лет назад
If everything is gonna be free this all sounds ok
@donicamcarthur2500
@donicamcarthur2500 2 года назад
Resource Based Economy The Venus Project Jacque Fresco
@l27tester
@l27tester 7 лет назад
I predict that eventually humans and machines will merge. Machines will contribute the physical power and computational power, humans will be a 'creative' coprocessor.
@DavidofSteele
@DavidofSteele 6 лет назад
Great talk
@kennethcooper6383
@kennethcooper6383 4 года назад
Brilliant lecture..i agree
@ZokcoPokco
@ZokcoPokco 7 лет назад
What a speaker!
@ericwilliams2122
@ericwilliams2122 7 лет назад
now who is the "we" he keeps talking about? you and me or the elite?
@ryandelmar7969
@ryandelmar7969 7 лет назад
We kinda know the answer to your question, don't we?
@ericwilliams2122
@ericwilliams2122 7 лет назад
yes....
@lisarose9091
@lisarose9091 5 лет назад
😂😂😂
@effexon
@effexon 4 года назад
I also have Gigaflops of computing power. I dont need it in my personal life. I want to meet and socialize with real people. Work life is different. I can brag that. I can also buy world's hottest chili. Same thing. Wont make me any wiser.
@ericdew2021
@ericdew2021 4 года назад
All of us. He's wrong though. The future isn't going to be jobless. It's going to be even more jobs, more than the number of humans are available to do the work. But none of those jobs are the ones we currently do. I can't tell you what those jobs were, much like people in the 18th century could have conceived of software programmers, CGI renderers, movie stars, crooners (singing without excessive loudness, because amplification can solve that problem), photoshoppers, etc.
@couchpoet1
@couchpoet1 8 лет назад
👏🏼 oh happy times! Introduce A.I. And we will be looking at our new overlords as soon as they figure that WE are obsolete!
@strawberrylayton7726
@strawberrylayton7726 5 лет назад
Kevin is a regular musical director at my community theatre (Sunnyvale Community Players)
@liviugeorge9103
@liviugeorge9103 7 лет назад
...that moment when you mistake calculus power with intelligence. and have not a clue about wisdom vs intelligence...
@sleepytyn
@sleepytyn 5 лет назад
Good thing I'm an engineer... someone has to design this stuff
@mikejohnson7696
@mikejohnson7696 7 лет назад
1997, computer did NOT best a chess grandmaster. He was beaten by a team of chess masters & programmers who worked nights to try & win the next day, by analyzing the previous game . The 'loser' asked for a rematch, IBM refused.
@lilyblossom1240
@lilyblossom1240 6 лет назад
oh, no some people might be lazy! lmao. look most people are going to go out into their community. most are going to make things/fix things/engage in the arts. most are going to garden. most are going to keep learning in some way...it's not dooms day where without a so called "valued" job we can't find things to do. "lazy" is just another out nay sayers have to rely on because they really are afraid of FREEDOM to do what they want, their value is no longer imposed upon a "job" that has been propaganda to keep the masses enslaved. your job does not define you, you define yourself. without a job to trap you it is up to you to explore yourself and create your utopia.
@RaonakDM
@RaonakDM 5 лет назад
Ya, infact people are lazy because they have to work a 3rd of their day on their job, and by the time they come home they're too mentally/physically drained.
@azmodanpc
@azmodanpc 5 лет назад
Caring for the elderly and the children will be in high demand. These tasks are extremely difficult to automate and will be in massive demand in the future. The aging population is going to explode in the near future.
@jamesanton3000
@jamesanton3000 5 лет назад
Alice Rowlands people won’t be with enough to get when work have to spend
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 4 года назад
@@RaonakDM That's not laziness, that's exhaustion.
@user-lo8km1ws7y
@user-lo8km1ws7y 4 года назад
lily blossom that's false because it should be full of nature. Not buildings and apartments for people to do what with? It's still a form of enslavement, we won't be able to grow food in the ground like we should be able to. We won't be able to be one with nature and the universe by ourselves because there will be a government with a social credit system aiming to get rid of most of us who aren't doing anything but will still need food and water, you know the not "lazy" people who can't entertain.
@WildlandExplorer
@WildlandExplorer 7 лет назад
Ever notice how they never bring a working class slob on to talk about the finer points of automation. How about for once, someone who lives paycheck to paycheck - how will this impact their lives? I've lost count - every single TED talk on AI and automation, bar none, is by someone whose livelihood stands to benefit from it. For many years these speakers have already not relied upon the nominal system of corporate labor to make an income - or they have sat atop it. Let's see: computer scientists, rock-star physicists, economists, top CEOs, entrepreneurs and innovators (is that the same as a "visionary"?), hackers who have Bill Gates' ear, and tenured MIT professors... These are the people who make so much money in a year that they can put together an investment portfolio quick enough they would never have to leave the resort except for the occasional speaking tour. Perhaps they all come from good intentions, but at every turn I get the feeling there are hard working billionaires on this problem who conveniently view it with the specter of incredible privilege and personal projection. They can be idealistic because they have the luxury of not worrying almost regardless of the outcome.
@Egoblivion
@Egoblivion 6 лет назад
Ellery Keller I'm also concerned about this. It comes down to renewable energy. It's progress has been stunted for a while; we could be nearly 100% self-sufficient by now. Despite not getting the necessary funding, it will get too big to ignore then it will blow up, in a good way. Big petroleum, Big Pharma, the war on drugs, and Big Alcohol and Tobacco are key in holding back progress. AI and robots will probably be able to help push renewable energy through. If you're buying a vegetable and harvesting will be cheaper because of automation, loading, transportation by electric trucks charged on a solar battery, etc., then the retail price would have to reflect all that.
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 5 лет назад
That will be where a basic income will come in. Unskilled and low wage jobs will be gone soon so if people are not payed with the spoils of automation then no-one will be able to buy what the robots are making becasue they will all be homeless or dead. Also, I resent your implication that working class people are "slobs".
@ronaldlogan3525
@ronaldlogan3525 4 года назад
I am thinking the same thing and I would go even further as to suggest that what is not being said in talks like this one is that the disposable people who will be caught in the disruption will have to be done away with as the population is being reduced. It is an unfortunate reality but it is all for the betterment of the privileged few that will survive it. He goes way out of his way not to talk about the fact that most people cannot afford an unexpected expense of $400.00.
@lapanthanim
@lapanthanim 2 года назад
I've seen multiple videos over the years of people talking about automation and the end of jobs in relation to research into universal basic income/basic minimum income. One of those I just saw a little while ago today (though this one was not so inspiring imo). Basic income could be done well-- studies have shown this is possible-- but that doesn't mean it would actually be implemented properly if/when any nations adopt it.
@ByGulshan
@ByGulshan 7 лет назад
What sort of bots could replace politicians? Seriously, ideas?
@ibraveheart5700
@ibraveheart5700 6 лет назад
Politicians make to much money they would never let that happen
@ericdew2021
@ericdew2021 4 года назад
Politics occur when more than one person exists and they acknowledge the existence of another. When that occurs, politics exists, and politicians will come about. Politicians can certainly be aided by bots (and I hope many utilize whatever technologies available now), but they can't be replaced.
@AratiPandu111
@AratiPandu111 13 дней назад
I can see that his prediction about automation might actually become true, but how will people who don't have a job be able to buy anything at all? Where will the funds come from for food, shelter, all the basics? It would require a complete overhauling of the entire world's economic system, and there are enough powerful forces at play that they will resist this change with everything they have.
@glennzlotowski8020
@glennzlotowski8020 4 года назад
Very interesting, like star trek . It's not about money or possessions anymore .
@ucheucheuche
@ucheucheuche 5 лет назад
You can hear a pin drop (robotically) as removes jobs
@joeyork4892
@joeyork4892 7 лет назад
Will these computers be immune to GIGO (garbage in, garbage out)? They are still data processors no matter how fast they are. Humans are being freed from robotic tasks and thinking. This may free us from collectivism or the need to bow and scape for a living.
@FHIPrincePeter
@FHIPrincePeter 6 лет назад
Cui Bono ?
@mariateresabuenavista8560
@mariateresabuenavista8560 5 лет назад
The true 'business' of his talk is who gets the patents for all these technologies.
@DharmendraRaiMindMap
@DharmendraRaiMindMap 7 лет назад
Till A smooth transition happens ( If that ever does ) there will be anarchy Dharmendra Rai , Mind Map Trainer
@movieguy992
@movieguy992 7 лет назад
I agree. Humans do not adapt quickly to change. In fact we hate it. Do we really feel that the government and owners of capital will just give us the wealth that these machines provide. I for see a period of extreme poverty for most along with war coming.
@DharmendraRaiMindMap
@DharmendraRaiMindMap 7 лет назад
That is one reason . The other is that most people are just pathetic at planning & at discipline . Inspite of all the technology & super brains at work , transitioning to a new way of living or to new systems just seems to be too much of a job
@movieguy992
@movieguy992 7 лет назад
And there are many who benefit from keeping things as they are. Do the wealthy want a 90 percent tax rate on their income so that it can be redistributed to the rest of us in the form of universal basic income? Many will resent this and feel they are being stolen from and resent the idea that they have to freely give things to those of us who can no longer work.
@DharmendraRaiMindMap
@DharmendraRaiMindMap 7 лет назад
I agree - there will a huge resistance there
@TheodoreBolha
@TheodoreBolha 7 лет назад
It's getting to the point that there will be a global uprising if they do not allow this to happen.
@paulpena5040
@paulpena5040 6 лет назад
Of course what is missing in all this "utopian society" talk is the discussion about the inherent value of work. People NEED to work. It gives them a feeling of contributing to society of integration. It affects character. Do we want a world of selfish, entitled, lazy, self-gratified idiots with no other ambition than to watch TV all day long? When I worked at a restaurant in India I noticed there was a way to vastly improve the conditions of food prep and I brought it up to the workers. The reaction was why? I said it will give you a lot more free time. They said "free time to do what?". I said "whatever you want". They said "THIS is what we want, THIS is what we do". There is more to work than producing stuff.
@lilyblossom1240
@lilyblossom1240 6 лет назад
Things people can do if they don't want to be "lazy": volunteer. Travel . Have the time to actually raise your children. Fix things like cars, homes, and more. Creating community gardens. Teaching on various subjects. keep up on education. Thinking up ideas. arts such as music, painting, and writing. there are a lot of things we can do besides "work" in the traditional sense. Freedom of choice to do what you want! Freedom!
@danielbadra9447
@danielbadra9447 6 лет назад
Why do you think this is what we would become? Couldn't it be that it is not the obligation of working that drives humanity, but the freedom to do so? Wouldn't it be cool if anyone who would decide to work, decided to work because that would be great for everyone? Now, very few people would decide to work. But also, very few people would be needed because of automation. Only those who truly want to participate, participate, out of billions, some will work because they want to and do a much better job.
@davidbrown552
@davidbrown552 5 лет назад
Paul Pena. There is no evidence that there is an intrinsic *kind* of "accomplishment." College students or warring infantry. If hamburgers had never been invented, there would be no proud working hamburger flippers. Some of the happiest people are proud that they don't have to work anymore.
@donicamcarthur2500
@donicamcarthur2500 2 года назад
That is just those people, not everyone feels this way and if they want to cook and serve they still could.
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 4 года назад
It saddens me that these talks on work and basic income are between two and eight years old, yet nothing has changed. Everyone has focused on the Finland experiment which was not a real Universal basic income, becasue it was not unconditional (jobs were expected to be acquired), it was not universal (only the unemployed received it), and it was not enough to cover basic needs. This idea has been praised by academics, economists, and humanitarians around the globe, yet we are still caught up in the red tape of hum-haw politics where people talk endlessly but nothing ever seems to get done. Meanwhile, people die. They die!
@danlightened
@danlightened 4 года назад
The problem is, why would I work if I don't have to? I mean, why would an accountant work, earn some and pay taxes which go to the unemployed when he can chill at home himself? This is not my opinion but this what people will feel. That's why the job has to be something you're really passionate about. A less work hours. Also, there has to be a complete overhaul of the education system. Philosophy, psychology, moral values that would bring about a paradigm shift. So that people don't think "Why do I have to work if he's not working?" and leaders who won't think along the lines of "Why do we need to waste resources on these jobless people?"
@circusboy90210
@circusboy90210 6 лет назад
Working is people value and self respect .The end of human work is Not something to celebrate
@davidbrown552
@davidbrown552 5 лет назад
circusboy90210 Doing menial labor when you know a machine can do it faster and better is depressing wage slavery.
@tailgunner2
@tailgunner2 7 лет назад
Let them TRY to replace construction positions! Oh sure, it may help out with mixing the cement, good luck applying it. As for the automated food processor, one little detail us customers need to think about before walking up to that kiosk: "How long has that meat been in there?"
@SailorBarsoom
@SailorBarsoom 7 лет назад
_"How long has that meat been in there?"_ It was delivered by drone an hour ago. And is there one reason construction is any more "robot-proof" than any other job? A friend of mine has a job that will be difficult to replace with a machine: she's a call girl. But let's face it: most of us aren't cut out to be call girls.
@SailorBarsoom
@SailorBarsoom 7 лет назад
Machines are getting better at dealing with the actual physical world with each passing day.
@naturalisted1714
@naturalisted1714 6 лет назад
Embrace automation! Watch my latest video on the topic now!
@SamSung-jq4ho
@SamSung-jq4ho 2 года назад
8:48 "And when you come home at 6" Come home at 6 from what job?
@Nehmo
@Nehmo 7 лет назад
The video (on the playlist I'm viewing) just before this was concerned with the “big filter”. That's the theorized extinction mechanism that explains why we don't detect any other advanced civilizations in the universe. Assuming civilization development follows a similar path everywhere, somewhere on that path, civilization development hits an extinction (or stop in development) event. Our civilization could have already survived such an event, or it could be yet to come. For example, 543 million years ago, there was a development from single to multi cellular organisms. We successfully made that transition, but maybe doing so is rare. That “event” may be the big filter or one of them. Another candidate would be hostile Artificial Intelligence AI. Perhaps all civilizations reach a point in which they must develop computer science. This developes inevitably develops into AI that has no use for biological humans.
@mumulove
@mumulove 7 лет назад
A bit too optimistic from this guy. As long as there are people in power, there will be bondage.
@vbuckley1780
@vbuckley1780 4 года назад
So how do we as a human species have cars and houses, HEALTH INSURANCE, EAT? HOW DO WE DO THAT WHEN WE AREN'T GETTING PAID?! WHERE DOES OUR MONEY COME FROM?!
@EricMontross5000
@EricMontross5000 9 лет назад
I'm open. I like the idea that technology is guiding us in the direction of a new modern renaissance. Sounds like we'll need a lot of programmers to pull this off. Or robots that are programmed to do the programming. Fascinating vision of a potential future nonetheless. Looks like we are headed in this direction in many ways. I'm just wondering how the food growing, harvesting and delivery mechanisms operate in this sort of world. Or maybe we can just focus more on gardening in our back yards instead of going to work every day to pay for the rising costs of food in grocery stores... Again I open to a paradigm shift that aims to reignite the creativity of the human spirit. It this is the way to do it and it's sustainable then I'm all in. Ironically it seems like a lot of work still needs to be done though to get this massive automated infrastructure in place.
@jackwittenbrink1354
@jackwittenbrink1354 5 лет назад
These videos that're all sequenced to go from one to the next are very interesting, and none of them make mention (at least not useful or conclusive mention,) of human overpopulation. The few that do seem to spiral out into conjecture or theory that seems even wilder and more outlandish than the stuff postulated by the AI folks. Overpopulation seems like a bit of a wrench in the works for all this. Guaranteed basic income? With ten billion people? Hmm.
@BlackJar72
@BlackJar72 7 лет назад
"...without having to talk to anyone...." -- sounds like a very lonely world, as if things weren't impersonal enough. On another matter -- OK, much of this may be inevitable, but instead of pep-talks about how great it will be we need more talks on how to handle the challenges. Without serious changes to the way society works most won't be enjoying any of these things because they won't be able to afford them. All this is likely to happen -- what need to be discussed is how to replace the income that will be lost with all these jobs. Also, school isn't for everyone -- some might prefer to learn on there own, or do something creative or social. Oh, yeah, and school won't be school -- school is moving to the web.
@effexon
@effexon 4 года назад
School wont move to web. They tried, it failed. People need other people to learn. What is also needed to discuss is how to form social structures so that human needs are met. Work or no work, people want certain stuff to spend meaningful time. Tech people dream "master machine" that will do all work automatically, but there is no one to see. Even elite people live differently: they hire people. It is nicer to talk to human who will do things with machine than learn the machine.
@donicamcarthur2500
@donicamcarthur2500 2 года назад
@@effexon well there will still be humans that you can spend your time with and family. There is the Venus Project by Jacque Fresco that you can look into and I guess the ziegeist movent and the free world charter.
@alandrian
@alandrian 5 лет назад
Its great for the future but our economics is not set up for this to work.
@nikobelic4251
@nikobelic4251 4 года назад
My mom likes cooking so I think she will keep that “job” we’ll just have a roomba
@ArnoldvanKampen
@ArnoldvanKampen 7 лет назад
The Matrix is neigh..
@OliverKoolO
@OliverKoolO 7 лет назад
I'm watching a robot promotional. "by our bots" 😕
@kartikeyanand10
@kartikeyanand10 3 года назад
Self driving vehicles are here It's 2021
@billfargo9616
@billfargo9616 5 лет назад
This guy didn't understand the song "In the year 2525," by Zager and Evans.
@snowrik7529
@snowrik7529 8 лет назад
How will the work force, who have contributed to the economy by work and by spending and thus making further innovations possible, be treated? Will the leaders and scientists forget about the past work that has been done. Would civilizations exist if there were only scientists and engineers? What if in a few years all of the work force would be on the tech field (not happening) would Kevin Surace fear for his job, cause the competition would be so tough?.. Theres a few questions for you idealists. Also 7:38 part makes me giggle.. Oh, western world.. What is it that we are actually aiming for? And dont get me wrong. Many things about automation excite me and I see it as a great opportunity for a better future. Just remember every new invention comes with it's flaws and bad sides (think of the internet for one) and the ethics of robotics (roboethics) is a big deal, which some people take way too lightly.
@TheBookRant
@TheBookRant 8 лет назад
"opportunity for a better future." How is no jobs, thus no way to afford food and medicine, thus collapse the economy and most people starve good? Better? Ghadi predicted and feared this. There wont be a universal income. where would money come from? It can't be stable.
@TheBookRant
@TheBookRant 7 лет назад
If they allow it which they won't, what if they let us starve?
@SailorBarsoom
@SailorBarsoom 7 лет назад
If they let us starve, then who buys all the wonderful iPhones and XBox systems and such that the robots make? If they let us starve, then who buys all those beautiful tomatoes and strawberries the robots pick? If they let us starve, then who books flights on all those self-flying planes, stays in all those gorgeous automated hotels, and rides on those self-driving tour buses? Sure, they *could* just let us all starve, but if they do, then they won't be rich for long.
@benjamintrice2924
@benjamintrice2924 7 лет назад
Sailor Barsoom If robots are doing the all the work. Why would these corporations give you money to buy the products. They won't need you to buy a product once they have all the wealth. They won't need you anymore.
@SailorBarsoom
@SailorBarsoom 7 лет назад
How do they maintain their wealth without making sales?
@dabbayoo
@dabbayoo 6 лет назад
Remember the saying, too much time on your hands.
@mxppl87
@mxppl87 6 лет назад
IOTA is the future
@JonRusty
@JonRusty 7 лет назад
the prices would not be lowered. Why? the cost of purchase of the equipment would mean that the private company or the gov will tax us for it's benefits. e.g. if you want a new and safe driverless experience, your fares will cost you extra. I'm it's a money driven world. if jobs are being replaced and cost of services increased, this means that jobless people will have to pay higher cost of services. Then where is this world going to?
@larrycarter1192
@larrycarter1192 2 года назад
I am not a robot... Yet. LOL.
@mondosci
@mondosci 9 лет назад
A lovely Utopian vision, but hardly new or novel (Peter Russell's "The End of Work" comes to mind, for example). What is perhaps more interesting than the presentation, is the audience which seems to be spellbound by what appears to be radically new cosmic awareness being dispensed. Yawn . . . A slightly different perspective to consider is that as millions of ordinary people (not the techno-elite hipsters) are rapidly displaced and thrust into a realm where the relevance of their existence becomes questionable, this will present a type of societal evolutionary test on a scale for which there is no precedent.
@dannyrosenberg4175
@dannyrosenberg4175 7 лет назад
With every year it's coming closer and closer. It's happening.
@rhadamesasenjo79
@rhadamesasenjo79 7 лет назад
Exactly, Charles.!!.. One extremely important consideration to this utopian vision is the fact that people in general strive for wealth and all its rewards. In other words, I, for one, would love to live out my days in a farm somewhere in tropical paradise.. For that to happen, I'd have to, somehow, buy into that venue. Now, how the hell will I be able to accomplish that dream without paying for it.? .. No job, no money; no money, no farm; no farm, no happiness.!
@pygmalioninvenus6057
@pygmalioninvenus6057 7 лет назад
lmao your last sentence
@mumulove
@mumulove 7 лет назад
Is it true that because someone else already presented an idea, no one else can then present it to different audiences? Did you yell at your math teacher because she was repeating Euclid?
@CalebMcFarland
@CalebMcFarland 7 лет назад
Good way to brag about knowing stuff.
@augustus331
@augustus331 5 лет назад
5 years later: Robots have still not taken my job and the squabble about 5G makes the arrival of self-driving trucks and cars even further in the future... Hurry up already!
@buffalo_chips9538
@buffalo_chips9538 5 лет назад
He thinks the end of works 50 years out? LOL I give it 25 years tops
@MichaelMarko
@MichaelMarko 6 лет назад
This is wonderful. But in a capitalist system - which has made a religion of itself tied morality to labor - in which people are only valued for their labor, once they aren't needed for their labor what will the politics be? Roboticization = death! We are already shivering in the cold night of multi generational wage stagnation. When the owners of capital no longer need employees, then what. I don't think we'll all be given houses on the beach. This has been discussed and promised for decades. The thing is, decades ago people were to be freed from toil to live happy lives in some (unspoken) socialist near-topia. This lovely lecture, coupled with the reality of the Trump administration's radical attempted takeover of the EPA, Education Dept, etc., by which we inform ourselves and press for justice and equality is not amusing and hopeful. It's chilling. It tells me that there may come a time when most people are just so much dross. Clogging the roads to happiness for the very few who own the means of production and all that capital. When will there be robots set out to thin the population? Unless we press for a redistribution of capital and an end to the oligarchy, in other words, to get our democracy back, then robotization = death.
@geoffhalsey2184
@geoffhalsey2184 7 лет назад
Interesting, at 8:27 the speaker talks of a home robot that cooks and cleans. He then goes on to say these meals will be ready for you when you get home at 6 pm. Presumably after returning from work? What work would that be? Indeed what home would that be, since you won't have an income or indeed the money to buy food? At 11:35 the speaker talks about the self-driving cars and goes on further to say that, it will most likely car ownership will no longer be necessary and it will become illegal for humans to drive. So what happens to freedom of movement? At 12:56 the speaker talks about education for children. Will a future government want to fund education for all children beyond the basics, if that education serves no purpose? As for adult education, there will be no jobs, so what's the point? Overall, for the general population, this sounds like a return to the dark ages where a small elite has total control of everything and every aspect of your life. Any descendants you may have will be totally dependent on that government for housing and food, denied an education and freedom of movement. This is the return to feudalism.
@maxg4958
@maxg4958 6 лет назад
feudalism never went away :)
@sibylsaint
@sibylsaint 5 лет назад
Robot doctors are a BAD idea. What if it crashes during surgery? I think, and HOPE, that people will insist on humans to still do certain things. Medicine is a passion. People don't JUST get into it for money. There will still be people that want to study the human body. There will still be need for oversight.
@soupflood
@soupflood 7 лет назад
Does renaissance mean widespread social unrest, in this title?
@mythaksindorei244
@mythaksindorei244 5 лет назад
"12 auto driving car companies have been bought by google" Its probably way more today, people shouldnt sell their own companies O_o Competition drives progress. Dont be greedy and take the buyout!
@claires9100
@claires9100 4 года назад
This talk mises just one question: How will income be available without work? Answer: a universal basic income. Vote for Andrew Yang. He is the only candidate who is aware of this.
@apokalupsis3
@apokalupsis3 7 лет назад
Naive to the nth degree: "virtual assistant'---and the sense of meaningful liesure is forgotten---work proliferates seemlessly at home, destroys family value, "where do the children play?"
@couchpoet1
@couchpoet1 8 лет назад
Music and dance were not created in the renaissance
@mariedouglas
@mariedouglas 7 лет назад
Thank you....
@telaadvisor
@telaadvisor 5 лет назад
He clearly doesn't understand and totally underestimate the power of humanity. Her is my issue he explains like we don't need a driver while UBER will cover the job to take you to point B? there is no point B, coz point B is a place to work or do thing and that disappear. Pluss if the common good vanished from majority they have the ability to boycott any service no matter what.
@PeterTysdal
@PeterTysdal 9 лет назад
YA no more jobs!! no more driving accidents!!!
@MrSteezy
@MrSteezy 7 лет назад
IF anyone plans on having an automated freighter they better have some automated guns on that MFER. A crew less ship would be a pirates heaven
@larrycarter1192
@larrycarter1192 2 года назад
You can't sue a robot right?
@larrycarter1192
@larrycarter1192 2 года назад
Of course it's the robot's fault right? Bad connection problems, user didn't have a good joystick or something, not enough bandwidth to support a real doctor operating on someone, etc, etc.
@zaktripper4908
@zaktripper4908 4 года назад
The homeless/welfare/social-security/no-load/generation of entitlement is partially due to human evolutionary adaptation to extraordinarily wasteful societies and federally suppressed innovations.
@krinka1458
@krinka1458 4 года назад
robots that look like andrew yang will be running for president. secure the bag. yang gang 2020
@kawaii_princess_castle
@kawaii_princess_castle 4 года назад
Why don't you create a robot that create money and pay the bills for me? So I don't need to work and have enough money to live. I find this very good but why do you always forget to mention the most important part that everybody is thinking of?: How will people with work as a unique stream of income live?
@SilverCloudMusic2012
@SilverCloudMusic2012 7 лет назад
I hope there is a robot that will help all the homeless when they are out of a job...ho yes for free to.
@SuperJV4x
@SuperJV4x 5 лет назад
people will not ponder "why are we here" - without work society will collapse into an Epicurean psychosis.
@ronaldlogan3525
@ronaldlogan3525 4 года назад
funny how "coders" are considered high skill jobs along with doctors. and when that can be automated then what ? By the way, coding is not so much high skill it is just that traditionally people did not know how to do it. It is a simple language skill no more complex than human speech.
@johnmoss4140
@johnmoss4140 2 года назад
So everything cost ALMOST nothing, but you don't have anything because no one has a job, hmmm
@smithgraincattlesgc4940
@smithgraincattlesgc4940 7 лет назад
Us workaholics will have nothing to do
@southlondon86
@southlondon86 6 лет назад
ben smith Travel. Explore. Put your mind to being creative - something which I think will take robots a long time to accomplish.
@circusboy90210
@circusboy90210 6 лет назад
Deep blue did not actually beat Gary Kasparov that was a lie it was 6 other brand champions posing as computer Programmers .Watson only could be other Japanese players because it you all the answers and had no memory problems .Computers will never be smarter than humans it's literally Impossible .
@davidbrown552
@davidbrown552 5 лет назад
circusboy90210. It is empirically obvious that machines will overtake human "smartness" because they already have. At the moment, machines are less versatile than humans. But they are very "smart" at what they do. Machine versatility will come.
@bodyme
@bodyme 3 года назад
Work is what keeps people alive and happy so this rich snob ain't telling the truth
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