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@TheBiblosNetwork
@TheBiblosNetwork Год назад
We realize the last ten minutes were cut off due to an uploading issue. Part two is uploading now and will be available on our channel very shortly.
@TheBiblosNetwork
@TheBiblosNetwork Год назад
Part two: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3JiM_SdyMiI.html
@mazixkazz5756
@mazixkazz5756 Год назад
Always a blessing brother. And a good reminder not to take the attacks personally. We wrestle not against flesh and blood.
@MLSiders
@MLSiders Год назад
Thank you so much for Biblos!! My kids go to a Private school that teaches the Trinity (the curriculum is outstanding and environmentally better than public school) and every morning we go over Oneness Scriptures. My boys have had back and forths with different teachers 😅 Anyways.. I was basically raised in this but never got into understanding how other religions got to where they are today until Biblos. It gives me insight on how these teachers believe. I’ve taken for granted being brought up Apostolic, it’s truly a blessing!! ❤
@stevewilliams3062
@stevewilliams3062 Год назад
I would caution your kids against “debating” this with their teachers
@MLSiders
@MLSiders Год назад
@@stevewilliams3062 they don’t debate with their teachers, they ask about the other scriptures that show “One God”.
@tp3922
@tp3922 Год назад
I would fully agree. Teach if they have an open mind about the Bible.
@bobjames3748
@bobjames3748 Месяц назад
Ask them to ask who is God in John 1:1 see what they say, it is the one question they never want to Answer. If they answer the Trinity, then The Word made flesh is the Trinity, if they say that is the Father then the Word was the Father. So have them ask who or what is God in John 1:1. We answer JESUS IS GOD, THE Word WAS WITH GOD/JESUS, PERTAINED TO HIM AS THE MAN CHRIST AND WORD WAS GOD/JESUS.
@peedroh10
@peedroh10 2 месяца назад
I'm brazilian and I'm thankful to Jesus our Savior and to you brother. What a wonderful video, may our God, Lord and Savior Jesus Christ bless you.
@lesliex4599
@lesliex4599 Год назад
Preach truth bro. Urshan!!!! I became a oneness believer when I tried to understand God through a trinity explanation. David Bernard vs Gene Cook Debate. Praise Jesus my worship to One God is so different from when I tried worshipping Him under trinitarian belief.
@tracymay8268
@tracymay8268 Год назад
I just love your insight and information!! You are a treasure!!
@GodlyDating101
@GodlyDating101 Год назад
What a phenomenal episode, bro Urshan! Love this resource as I witness to my trinitarian friends.
@KSTIDHAM
@KSTIDHAM Год назад
Bro. Urshan, this is exceptional! Keep up the great work, and keep it going!!
@tashabell1904
@tashabell1904 Год назад
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🔥🔥🔥Sending to my Bible study group now!
@davewhitehead135
@davewhitehead135 21 день назад
Praise The Lord Brotheren.I Greeteth Thee. Is
@smducati1006
@smducati1006 Год назад
Very insightful, deep, yet understandable.
@jesseC0806
@jesseC0806 Год назад
amen!
@user-sg1tp6xt3g
@user-sg1tp6xt3g Год назад
Amen! Oneness! Jesus is God
@williambrown8978
@williambrown8978 Год назад
This is very educational.i used to be catholic but thank God I repented was baptized in Jesus name and filled with the holyghost!and I know who Jesus is.the almighty God rev1:8
@gatorm4794
@gatorm4794 Год назад
I forget where I read it, but I remember reading about Gods "plurality". One of the Hebrew words for God is "Elohim". Whenever the "-im" is seen in this language it means the noun is plural. But the reason Elohim is plural is not because God is genderless. In the context of "El Elohim" being used in scripture it also used to show that there is something greater. The "-im" in Elohim is also used to let the reader know that something is beyond understanding. And that is exactly what God is: BEYOND. He is beyond all human knowledge and comprehension. C'mon somebody!!! 🔥🔥🔥
@JeremyStevenson21
@JeremyStevenson21 Год назад
Also I read that the idea of a Trinity comes from pagan religions as well “Up until the rule of Emperor Constantine, the Christians of the Roman Empire were persecuted. Constantine, however, in the early fourth century saw a chance to help restore the former glory of the Empire by bringing about religious unity. In exchange for the cooperation of the Roman Christian Bishops he made Christianity the official state religion. However, this came at great cost to the true gospel of Jesus Christ. From this time forward Christianity became a mixture of the Christian faith and Paganism. One of the most common beliefs among Pagan cultures was in a trinity of gods. We find this among the Egyptians, Indians (of India), Japanese, Sumarians, Chaldeans, and of course, the Babylonians, to where historians trace the roots of trinitarism.“ Sumeria "The universe was divided into three regions each of which became the domain of a god. Anu's share was the sky. The earth was given to Enlil. Ea became the ruler of the waters. Together they constituted the triad of the Great Gods" (The Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology, 1994, pp. 54-55) Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.' "Hence the triangle was adopted by all the ancient nations as a symbol of the Deity . . . Three was considered among all the pagan nations as the chief of the mystical numbers, because, as Aristotle remarks, it contains within itself a beginning, a middle, and an end. Hence we find it designating some of the attributes of almost all the pagan gods" (Sinclair, pp. 382-383). Greece "In the Fourth Century B.C. Aristotle wrote: 'All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity'" (Arthur Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198). Egypt "The Hymn to Amun decreed that 'No god came into being before him (Amun)' and that 'All gods are three: Amun, Re and Ptah, and there is no second to them. Hidden is his name as Amon, he is Re in face, and his body is Ptah.' . . . This is a statement of trinity, the three chief gods of Egypt subsumed into one of them, Amon. Clearly, the concept of organic unity within plurality got an extraordinary boost with this formulation. Theologically, in a crude form it came strikingly close to the later Christian form of plural Trinitarian monotheism" (Simson Najovits, Egypt, Trunk of the Tree, Vol. 2, 2004, pp. 83-84).
@dgreenja
@dgreenja Год назад
Jesus himself is Elohim, and yet he is not triune. The “im” being a plurality of persons, is therefore foreign to it's meaning. In fact, the true plurality of Elohim, has to do with Gods or gods. Abraham said “the Gods have made me to wander”, in reference to the true God, but not that Abraham believed in more than one God, but it could be in the context of God's plural majesty.
@hargisP2
@hargisP2 5 месяцев назад
The Hebrew word Elohim is singular in noun or pronoun, the plural is in application, meaning it can be applied to a Angel or any number of deities. Example.. Exodus 7:1 KJVS And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Moses was one person. In the Hebrew has a verb before in the singular, then the noun is singular.
@jameslewis4826
@jameslewis4826 Год назад
can we just all agree that the podcast is fire and so is the music 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@biblebitsandbobs5723
@biblebitsandbobs5723 Год назад
I enjoyed this video very much. Oneness just makes sense to me... I have tried to understand Trinitarian philosophy and it just sounds like a bunch of convoluted paths going to nowhere.
@CharleswoodSpudzyofficial
@CharleswoodSpudzyofficial Год назад
Good stuff! I have a good one for you. If Jesus was not begotten until the new testament, then when Yahweh speaks out of time to Jesus / Jeshua into the future in Genesis 1:26 when he says, "let US create" , what kind of dynamic does Jesus share in that moment if Jesus' purpose was to be the ultimate scapegoat for the original sin of Adam in the redemption of humanity? It seems to me that there's a Jesus fulfilling / wrapping up role, and a God creating role. I know this is super deep, but hey just some more content for the channel I guess.
@margaritanava77
@margaritanava77 Год назад
Man tries to apply the law of physics to God.
@peterpeter5611
@peterpeter5611 Год назад
My dear brother I thank you for the message I also am a Oneness Pentecostal and of course believe in the message of Acts 2:38. I just want to mention to you that the term godhead which I believe you did Cover simply means the divine nature which of course is referring to God's holiness it has no meaning whatsoever when it comes to persons or plurality of persons so obviously the trinitarian is off in their understanding of the term godhead. So you're welcome to share that anytime you like.
@user-uu4dh5gb4k
@user-uu4dh5gb4k 7 месяцев назад
Good way ..not attacking people but a doctrine
@lindahood9854
@lindahood9854 Год назад
I love Biblos Network And First Pentecostal Church At Durham NC
@jacobwjones
@jacobwjones Год назад
Is there a part two for this video? It seems to have been cut off just when you were talking about the purges of the Catholic church in History. Great video by the way.
@jacobwjones
@jacobwjones Год назад
Ah, found it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3JiM_SdyMiI.html
@jacobingram5587
@jacobingram5587 Год назад
Is the intro from an actual song or is it something created just for the show?
@jacobingram5587
@jacobingram5587 Год назад
Found it if anyone else was curious. All I need terrance jones mass choir
@naiyunzhang7696
@naiyunzhang7696 Год назад
Hi Pastor Urshan, Great video! The video is ended in 33:11 abruptly. It seems like there should be more material. Could you double check and maybe re-upload if that was not intended?
@JeremyStevenson21
@JeremyStevenson21 Год назад
There’s a second video he uploaded where it finishes
@naiyunzhang7696
@naiyunzhang7696 Год назад
@@JeremyStevenson21 I just saw that. Thank you Brother.
@JeremyStevenson21
@JeremyStevenson21 Год назад
I read that the idea of a Trinity comes from pagan religions: “Up until the rule of Emperor Constantine, the Christians of the Roman Empire were persecuted. Constantine, however, in the early fourth century saw a chance to help restore the former glory of the Empire by bringing about religious unity. In exchange for the cooperation of the Roman Christian Bishops he made Christianity the official state religion. However, this came at great cost to the true gospel of Jesus Christ. From this time forward Christianity became a mixture of the Christian faith and Paganism. One of the most common beliefs among Pagan cultures was in a trinity of gods. We find this among the Egyptians, Indians (of India), Japanese, Sumarians, Chaldeans, and of course, the Babylonians, to where historians trace the roots of trinitarism.“ Sumeria "The universe was divided into three regions each of which became the domain of a god. Anu's share was the sky. The earth was given to Enlil. Ea became the ruler of the waters. Together they constituted the triad of the Great Gods" (The Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology, 1994, pp. 54-55) Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.' "Hence the triangle was adopted by all the ancient nations as a symbol of the Deity . . . Three was considered among all the pagan nations as the chief of the mystical numbers, because, as Aristotle remarks, it contains within itself a beginning, a middle, and an end. Hence we find it designating some of the attributes of almost all the pagan gods" (Sinclair, pp. 382-383). Greece "In the Fourth Century B.C. Aristotle wrote: 'All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity'" (Arthur Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198). Egypt "The Hymn to Amun decreed that 'No god came into being before him (Amun)' and that 'All gods are three: Amun, Re and Ptah, and there is no second to them. Hidden is his name as Amon, he is Re in face, and his body is Ptah.' . . . This is a statement of trinity, the three chief gods of Egypt subsumed into one of them, Amon. Clearly, the concept of organic unity within plurality got an extraordinary boost with this formulation. Theologically, in a crude form it came strikingly close to the later Christian form of plural Trinitarian monotheism" (Simson Najovits, Egypt, Trunk of the Tree, Vol. 2, 2004, pp. 83-84). www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the-trinity
@douglasfuller6719
@douglasfuller6719 Год назад
Does 2Thessalonians 2:10-12 apply to the Trinity?
@hargisP2
@hargisP2 5 месяцев назад
That is speaking about people that do not believe the truth. It is not speaking about God Himself. Read in context, in other words read the verses before and after. Who is being talked about, and what is the discussion about.
@shaunbutler238
@shaunbutler238 Год назад
Elohim has nothing to do with three person in a godhead. If so, everytime a false elohim is mentioned, that means they are three personalities - and I don't see Baal as "one Baal and three personalities". satan is the "god of this world". There is no trinity in satan and neither is there a trinity in the One True God - Jesus.
@rayroberts8487
@rayroberts8487 Год назад
Also encourage folks to research the sonship in Bible. There comes a time when the sonship is done away with which begs the question "how could an co-equal, co-eternal, co-essential person, being, conscience or whatever you want to call this second person in the trinity be done away with"? I'd not put up with that myself if I was him. Anyway this isn't an attack against any individual; however, you can be sure I am attacking the ancient false trinity teaching. Think about this folks, during that time rulers, emperors, Pharaohs, etc were all worshipped as Gods. Now here comes this man called the Christ, this Jesus, who did works only God could do. Then once he's resurrected he gives this power to his disciples and Acts 2:38 to repent, be baptized everyone of you in Jesus name and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost which empowers each believer who obeys the gospel. They are literally turning the world order upside down. People are looking to Jesus, even to death, instead of worshipping man-made gods. Nero even burned Rome and blamed it on the Christians. Its no wonder the devil stepped on the scene to turn mankind from worshipping Jesus to a diluted polytheistic pagan worship. Still there always has been and always will be those who worship God in spirit and truth for God seeks such to worship him, John 4:24. Find out what it means to be a true worshipper by visiting a one-god, Jesus name baptizing, Holy Ghost filled church near you. And experience Romans 5:5 ... the love of God shed aboard in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which was given to us!
@andersons238
@andersons238 Год назад
I have yet to find "conversations" in the Godhead. A conversation has to be between two or more people, and no where in scripture is there a response from another person/being. Examples; Jesus praying in the garden with no voice coming back, but an angel appears to strengthen him. God saying "Let us make man in our image", yet no other being/person saying "yes, lets do it." Jesus' baptism, a voice from heaven, yet Jesus never responded with "Thank you Father" or any such statement. Psalm 110 shows no conversation, neither does any other scripture. A second person/being must respond to officially make it a conversation, otherwise it is one being talking alone. Oneness is the absolute truth according to the scripture, and must be received as a revelation from the eternal self revealing Spirit of God Almighty. Case closed.
@gimel77
@gimel77 6 месяцев назад
John 12:28 - Jesus says "Father, glorify your name," and the Father responds "I have glorified it, and will glorify it again."
@andersons238
@andersons238 6 месяцев назад
@@gimel77 Jesus was a true human as we are.
@gimel77
@gimel77 6 месяцев назад
@@andersons238 You guys are the ones who are saying there was no conversation between Jesus and the Father, and that the Father’s name is Jesus too. You guys are.
@andersons238
@andersons238 6 месяцев назад
@@gimel77 Yes, no conversation at all. Not to mention hundreds of scripture that reveal that the Messiah is the human incarnation of God the Father
@gimel77
@gimel77 6 месяцев назад
@@andersons238 But I just gave you a Scripture showing conversation?
@awillingvessel238
@awillingvessel238 Год назад
Why the video cut off so early???? You didn't finish talking
@TheBiblosNetwork
@TheBiblosNetwork Год назад
Part two: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3JiM_SdyMiI.html
@awillingvessel238
@awillingvessel238 Год назад
@@TheBiblosNetwork thank you
@shanewilson2270
@shanewilson2270 6 месяцев назад
Interesting how the letter says “education of grade school child” and the Bible says the truth is given to babes. The problem with the “world around us” as he says is you cannot look through the eyes of men and work back towards God. You must look at God and work back towards men. No one like Jesus ever existed and will never exist again. You are a man not the one true God. This is a common problem of trinitarians who define God in humanly terms.
@waltercoleman624
@waltercoleman624 5 месяцев назад
John 5:37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form." Who are they seeing and who's voice are they hearing? Isaiah 48:16 “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit [c]Have sent Me.” John 8:18 And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent Me. It is also written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. I am One who bears witness of Myself, and the Father who sent Me bears witness of Me.” Why are there two witnesses if there is just one witness? John 16:13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come." Who is the Holy Spirit hearing from?
@TheBiblosNetwork
@TheBiblosNetwork Год назад
Part two: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3JiM_SdyMiI.html
@joerod5621
@joerod5621 4 месяца назад
Then the high priest asked Jesus of his disciples and his DOCTRINE? J18:19 What had Jesus been teaching openly & made the offer slap Jesus. Hadn’t Jesus said the Father & I are one! (not a group of one) The Father is Me & I am in the Father! If you’ve seen me you’ve seen the … from now on you do know the Father & have seen him! (Not that anyone can see God but see his manifestation!) When trinitarians go to Genesis and use let us make man in our image.. I like to respond does God speak as a trio or which one is speaking to the other two? Trinitarians say God didn’t reveal himself completely till the incarnation that the disciples were the first experiential trinitarians! It’s funny how modern man is still deceived! And others right out stubbornness!
@alanhales1123
@alanhales1123 6 месяцев назад
Biblos network, the only way that you can respond to Trinitarians is to agree with them. That's if I knew the Bible.
@rayroberts8487
@rayroberts8487 Год назад
John 4:24 God is A spirit. Luke 24:39 spirit does not have flesh and bones. 1 Timothy 1:17 this spirit is eternal, immortal, invisible. Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the image of the invisible God. Hebrews 1:3 Jesus being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person. Jesus Christ is the express image or person of the one eternal, immortal, invisible God. There is only one God. Isaiah 9:6 his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, and the Prince of Peace. Since God is A spirit who scripture says is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient how can there be a separate Holy Spirit. There can't be otherwise the Holy Spirit would be the Father and God would be the Uncle because the Holy Spirit/Ghost came upon Mary and she conceived. Holy denotes the type of spirit God is verse an unholy evil spirit. God calls himself Father in creation but when interacting with us he calls himself Holy Spirit. And he gave his name to the messiah, the prophesied Christ as proven above. The man Christ Jesus declares he gave the Father's name to his disciples - the only name he ever gave out is Jesus. You can also find through research that the Catholic church takes credit for trinity and trinity baptismal formula. You can find it in Catholic and other encyclopedias.
@wjdyr6261
@wjdyr6261 Год назад
The trinity doctrine isn't simply man-made but demonically enforced. It's the doctrine of demons and they will fight for it
@gimel77
@gimel77 6 месяцев назад
The Father’s name is found in Exodus 3:15. It is this name that God said is his name forever. The name Jesus is a shortened version of the name Joshua. Several people in Scripture had this name. It’s not a secret name for God that Jesus “inherited.”
@rayroberts8487
@rayroberts8487 6 месяцев назад
So you are saying that the I AM who said he would come and save his people and be a great light unto the gentiles is not Jesus, even though he fulfilled over 300 O.T. prophecies concerning the Messiah. Let me say it this way: Jesus fulfilled every Messianic prophecy; yet, you still look for the Messiah?
@gimel77
@gimel77 6 месяцев назад
@@rayroberts8487 Of course I believe that Jesus is the Messiah and that the true God is revealed in him. But God himself is YHWH and Jesus is the man born of Mary.
@rayroberts8487
@rayroberts8487 6 месяцев назад
@@gimel77 okay, great, do you believe that at the end of time that the heaven and earth will be purged with fire and made new?
@ronaldstewart3467
@ronaldstewart3467 Год назад
Praise Jesus Christ! It's actually so hilarious how folks will create any dumb cartoon viewpoint to avoid the responsibility of being kind enough to let God's living water flow. Only God creates Peace first, then heals, blesses, and pours Love into our souls. Who but God Himself would come and become a sacrifice, die for you, take back the keys to death and hell and open the Door for you into eternity. God Himself came and washed the Apostles feet explaining His Passion for All men everywhere. 1x1=1.
@davidderitis9068
@davidderitis9068 3 месяца назад
This man who wrote the e-mail uses a lot of religious rhetoric; I suppose this makes him "superior" to the rest of us, however the apostle Paul told us that he does not come using excellent speech or wisdom, but in the demonstration of the Spirit and power (First Corinthians 2:1-5) and this does not change the fact that the doctrine of the trinity, god in 3 persons, thrice holy god, triune godhead, and referring to Jesus as the second person in the godhead, is totally unscriptural, and even BLASPHEMOUS ! There is ONLY ONE GOD, and His name is JESUS (Isaiah 9:6, 44:6, Matthew 28:19, John 1:1-3, 14, 10:30, 14:7-9, Colossians 1:16,17, 2:9, Ephesians 4:4-6, Revelation 1:8,11,17,18, 4:2 (ONE sits on the throne) and 4:11)
@Someone12378
@Someone12378 Год назад
Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem :(
@AngelaAllen-fk2gi
@AngelaAllen-fk2gi 6 месяцев назад
Mystery Babylon is Rome where sits the Cathlic church...The Mother of Harlots.
@hargisP2
@hargisP2 5 месяцев назад
Peter speaking about the Church in Rome. 1 Peter 5:13 KJVS The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.
@bobjames3748
@bobjames3748 Месяц назад
Who was Jerusalem/Jews Harlot daughters?
@Someone12378
@Someone12378 Месяц назад
@@bobjames3748 Everything that is antichrist.
@Someone12378
@Someone12378 Месяц назад
That verse doesn't mention Rome at all.
@11304800
@11304800 5 месяцев назад
You say Jesus is the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost @23:35 but the scriptures make a distinction between God and Jesus Christ. Of course, ---the Holy Ghost is the Spirit of God. Paul said there is only one Spirit. There is only one God--therefore there is only ONE Spirit of God. Jesus never called himself God--Jesus Always referred to HIS FATHER as God. When Jesus taught the disciples to pray Jesus said "Our Father which art in heaven---" Jesus prayed to HIS Father "Let this cup pass from me" John 20:17 “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” Jesus HAD A GOD---it was his Father. READ again" I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” SO, there is a distinction--- A SCRIPTURAL DISTINCTION between God and Jesus Christ Revelation 5:6-7 “6And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb (Jesus) as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.” 7“And he(Jesus) came and took the book out of the right hand of him (God) that sat upon the throne.”
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