A Ridiculously LOUD NS 65J Taking Out the Trash at McGarvey's

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2/18/09: The greatest words ever heard spoken from the operator of ALTO Tower thus far have been: "NS 3375, couple ahead of the 65J, and you'll be going west up 2 Track." Well, thats what was said at around 10am on Wed Feb 18th, 2009, as the triple-headed road power was not enough to haul the loaded trash train 65J over the Alleghenies that day, so the 3375 and the 3352 were the helpers for the job. This is a perfect example of the "unwritten rule" of the East Slope of the Pittsburgh Line over Horseshoe Curve and the Alleghenies: "The East Slope...where EVERYTHING is in 8!"
65J Road Power: SD40-2's 3383/3389 / C40-9W 8908
Helper Ahead: SD40-2's 3375/3352

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@gordonvincent731 6 лет назад

GM engines never get tired,I know,I ran a lot of them in 36 years as an engineer.Nothing beats the sound of EMD's in run 8.

@4226able 4 года назад

I AGREE.......FUCK GE........."I WANT MY EMD"...........43 YEARS JUST RETIRED.......MISS THOSE SD45'S, SD40'S GP40'S AND GP35'S.......THE GE'S????, MADE ME ALOT OF OVERTIME$$$$$ BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS BREAK DOWN....I GUESS YOU COULD SAY?, ITS ABOUT LIKE HAVING A STRIPPER FOR A GIRL FRIEND BUT HAVING TO PUT UP WITH THE CRABS........HERE WE GO------------------>*............

@FrehleyFan3988 3 года назад

You managed to capture 2 of the greatest sounds in railroading history

@haroldmartin4547 9 месяцев назад

Greatest sound ever those engines screaming at notch 8, EMD power forever.

@bonhommerichard1 13 лет назад

notched-8 SD-40-2 are to me like the Supremes' Hit of the 60's! I HEAR A SYMPHONY!

@JasonWagus Месяц назад

Fuck... great comment

@cookiemae 14 лет назад

That Dash 9 sounded pretty good too!

@kennyt1674 3 года назад

Wow those EMD Locomotives sound's amazing

@Hail2Pitt412 14 лет назад

The title lives to its name! Even with the end of the train rounding the curve, you can still hear the 645's working hard!

@RochelleXing 12 лет назад

Fantastic Video!!! Love the sound of those SD40-2's in Notch 8

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

Thanks man, its one of my favorite spots on this side of the hill.

@SFLRailFan 14 лет назад

Great one! I love the sound of SD40-2s in Run-8. Been to Horseshoe Curve before and I know you can hear trains coming from a long way off. Yeah --- BIG difference from what we're accustomed to down here in Florida. Awesome video. ;-) Five stars and Fav'd.

@Goetterdaemmerung86 3 года назад

Runnin' wide open, thrilling!

@paulquick8806 5 лет назад

Excellent sound and flatspots too considering continuous rail👍👍

@Opotiki54 14 лет назад

Sounds brilliant with headphones on :) thanks for posting

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

Ahhhh no shit!! Which one were you? I was up at the all nighter, short dude with the big camera, that was me.

@carl6956 7 лет назад

Retired SD-40/45 driver, still miss those wonderful locomotives,always dependable work horses.

@pootispiker2866 26 дней назад

No you weren't mate. There aren't drivers that operate them.

@TheMetGuy 2 месяца назад

Awesome sound!

@ecoRfan 15 лет назад

Trash train from HELL! The sound it going up a ridiculously steep grade is SPOOKY! Oh and 3:14 sounds like alarm bells, making it even more spooky. 4:39 sounds really freaky too. Really cool vid, 5*.

@AliceInChains243 14 лет назад

@trainiax Haha yup, EMD's for life man, not much sounds better than what my mic was able to pick up in this video.

@RRYankfan 15 лет назад

thats what i wanted to see there this weekend

@1MTSRider 11 лет назад

I am really beginning to agree. SP was and will always be best for me, but NS like this can definitely challenge for that spot.

@heinzrock4651 8 лет назад

Beautiful sound in Notch 8 the cars had some serious flat spots But all n all great catch

@AliceInChains243 8 лет назад

Thanks! It's been years since I initially documented this, but it's still to this day one of my more memorable moments trackside, even though this train sang like that just about every day whenever it ran, which was often. The business got sold to CSX, but now has recently returned to this routing, though I doubt in the same quantities or with the same near-gauranteed power as before.

@AliceInChains243 14 лет назад

I agree with you 100%. I just wish I had the pair of studio headphones while I was editing this vid together, it would have made the audio experience THAT much better.

@AliceInChains243 14 лет назад

Haha not a problem, just glad you enjoyed the vid. Yeah its not Florida by any means...but it's LOUD up there in the mountain of central PA!

@MrSd40jk 13 лет назад

Sound's great

@Honestware 14 лет назад

The whirring noise that you hear at the end is the FRED. They allow a small amount of train air pressure to continue to pass through, which spins a small generator to keep FRED's battery charged. You're hearing the generator spinning...

@larryrwendelljr4465 10 лет назад

I would not wan't to run afoul of that train. Excellent capture.

@meccaturbo 11 лет назад

NS....best class 1 railroad in the USA, hands down.

@iRECKONER 14 лет назад

Wowzaa AWESOME VID! way to capture those engines thrashing Like that. So where exactly is that ? Last time I was home I noticed they were putting a new signal on the lower end of the Horseshoe curve. My stomping grounds are from the East portal of the tunnel to MG. Benny being my fav. This vid provides an excellent vantage point. 5* Also on a side note, from your name I ask do you like Alice in Chains the band ? :P

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

This was shot at "McGarvey's", 3 miles west of Altoona and 3 miles east of Horseshoe Curve. I you want directions on how to get there send me a message, and I'll be more than happy to give you the low-down.

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

Yea, just the sounds of one of the best trains that runs up this side of the mountain. 3:14 is the wheels squealing through McGarvey curve, and 4:39 is a sound that has something to do with the FRED on the last trash car to my understanding/

@stupidpdj 10 лет назад

The GE seems like a lost step child.

@RRYankfan 12 лет назад

Love the sound of those EMDs. Wish they were still on helper service!

@dknowles60 5 лет назад

They are

@Trainman-cw1zl 4 года назад

I miss the good old days back when SD and gp used to be popular

@meccaturbo 11 лет назад

SP was a great railroad. Nothing quite like SP SD40T-2's going over Donner Pass on the original line through the summit tunnel. Nothing else like it in America. NS is a great railroad too...they are extremely well run.

@NS6677 15 лет назад

YEA! I love it!!!!!!!

@meccaturbo 14 лет назад

@AliceInChains243, I agree....the PRR was a great railroad, hate to see the old PRR stuff disappearing. I wish I'd been around in the days when PRR SD40's and SD45's ruled this line.

@formidable38 14 лет назад

Had this in my faves for a while, still sounds fuckin awsome!!!

@AliceInChains243 14 лет назад

To my knowledge, 65J still goes up the hill with it's Jersey trash loads almost daily, not sure of what time it gets by. Traditionally it's always went up in the early morning, but running as required, it can really get to Altoona any time I guess. Definitely the train to see, it almost always has power like that on the headpin.

@AliceInChains243 14 лет назад

@meccaturbo And it was making a lot more noise than my buddy next to me would admit. My on-board shotgun mic actually picked up the Catfish a little bit better than it did the SD40-2's ahead of the train, which to me is no surprise considering the difference in decibels between the two models when fully notched.

@DouglasP201 15 лет назад

At the beggining it look like they was throttling down the grade.

@AliceInChains243 14 лет назад

And who EVER would have thought that SD40-2's would become a "dying breed" on the mountain? The new SD40-E's they're putting in helper service aren't bad by any means...they just don't compare to their 35+ year old counterparts. I agree, it would have most certainly SOUNDED like something else back in PRR/PC days...

@meccaturbo 12 лет назад

Imagine this same scene with PRR 6-axle EMD's, GE's, and even Alco's climbing this grade right before PRR bit the dust in 1968....sadly, an era not many of us got to see. The PRR was once mighty, but died a horrible death in the end.

@dknowles60 5 лет назад

That's because the prr was misdmanage since apx 1946

@NJT4111 15 лет назад

nice location!

@blainevideos123 11 лет назад

I imagine spongebob saying as the train passes by "Takin' out the trash. Takin' out the trash".

@RRYankfan 15 лет назад

we saw him along RT220 he was an eastbound and it was around 3:30 Pm

@distantsignal 14 лет назад

Never mind. I should have read your info first: "The East Slope of the Pittsburgh Line over Horseshoe Curve and the Alleghenies"

@meccaturbo 14 лет назад

@AliceInChains243 there's a GE unit in there as well...

@AliceInChains243 13 лет назад

@DarthDemaric Those must have been some great times, too bad they won't sound like that by the time I have a kid that can listen to the railroad! Oh well, times have to change at some point.

@TheGingerBuff 15 лет назад

Turbo 645s at work, awesome!

@meccaturbo 14 лет назад

@AliceInChains243, I agree with you completely. I wish NS would paint up a PRR locomotive, the way they did with that Southern unit (GP60 I think it was?), for historical purposes. Unlike the UP historical units, the NS railroads had simple paint schemes for the most part, and would be easy to paint.

@dknowles60 5 лет назад

Ns has a prr unit

@CSX453 14 лет назад

Nice never seen a trash train up there

@meccaturbo 12 лет назад

@DarkHorseLeather Just because something is a 2-stroke, it doesn't "wrap out faster". In fact, a 2 stroke produces power every revolution of the crank whereas a 4 stroke does so every 2nd revolution, so in theory they should be working less hard to put out the same hp as a 4-stroke.

@DarkHorseLeather 12 лет назад

I think I would have to disagree with Gringo4x4do. GE's are to quiet anymore. Because of the 4 stroke diesels, they sound like they are not working very hard. Even in notch 8. The EMD 645's are a 2 stroke diesel, making them wrap out faster in full throttle. And there is just something about those 2 stroke diesels with the turbos screaming that sends chills down my spine. To me that is just raw, unadulterated horsepower. Now don't get me wrong! I love the sound of a very throaty GE. Cheers!

@AliceInChains243 14 лет назад

Yeah, UNFORTUNATELY you can say THAT again...

@distantsignal 14 лет назад

For the benefit of us flatlanders down here in Palm country, where is this place and what line is it on? Thanks! DH Tampa

@meccaturbo 11 лет назад

NS is the best possible successor that the once mighty Pennsylvania Railroad could ever have....ironic as well given that PRR once owned 1/3 of NS predecessor Norfolk & Western Railway.

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

Did I ever get back to you about the directions on getting here?? A lot of people have been asking me that same question, not sure if you're one of the ones that I got back to about it or not.

@elizabethpate2740 5 лет назад

What year was it filmed?

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

You bet. It recently got a new paint job a few months ago.

@mylargebreasts 12 лет назад

Listen to that howl!!!!!!!

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

Not sure, all I care about was the fact that the car count was enough to make those EMD's sound the way they should...

@carl6956 7 лет назад

That thumping sound you hear is a flat spot on some(or one) of the wheels

@PaulPeirceFan 15 лет назад

the louder the better >:)!!!!

@AliceInChains243 14 лет назад

It just passess through PA, they take it out to Mingo, OH. From there I have no idea what they do with it.

@gtw4918 15 лет назад

Is alto still in service?

@ecoRfan 11 лет назад

Interesting running the 40's + a D9 THIS hard while having been in Notch 8 THIS long, in THIS cold of weather, almost no smoke visible at all.

@SFLRailFan 14 лет назад

That's actually an impeller that you hear turning which turns an armature within the generator assembly. Good try, Jim.

@RRYankfan 11 лет назад

i wish they still had 40-2 helpers!

@dknowles60 5 лет назад

They do

@Railfan108 15 лет назад

DAmn how many cras?

@steveh9169 12 лет назад

Any thing in run 8 sounds good to me

@Cristianoefc 13 лет назад

EMD Rules xD!

@jpsholland 7 лет назад

With that logo up front i would painted them red.

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

Hahaha well beLIEVE me...they didn't!!!

@Jordiebwatchingtrains 14 лет назад

wow trash on whells must be havy

@amosmaclin4665 6 лет назад

Can u see this yes who's is it?

@derekwhite9932 6 лет назад

Like your name! Trains and Alice in Chains!

@ArchTeryx00 7 лет назад

Did he actually go through a red (with permission)? Center signal was red when he passed it; note green stays green even as the train passes it.

@carl6956 7 лет назад

No the engineer did not run through a red signal,look closely and you can see the signal change,the only time a train can continue through a stop signal is when a sign with the letter "G" is below the signal light, G being Grade,on very steep grades if a train without helpers stopped for red it would have problems starting and risking breaking the train in two so as long as the letter is below the signal it can proceed through,when i approached these type of signals the conductor and I will concur as well as calling the dispatcher to confirm.

@ArchTeryx00 7 лет назад

You're absolutely right - the angle did weird things to the signal color but you showed the centre-green right at the start, and you can see the position switch from top (green) to red (bottom). I thought dispatch might have given him permission to proceed - I've actually seen that (malfunctioning block signal). But you're right and it was my bad - sorry about that! (There are a few of us at least that try to be civil even here on RU-vid!)

@ArchTeryx00 7 лет назад

You've way more experience then I do. I'm just a scientist that also happens to be a railfan (had an engineer in my extended family). The only reason I could tell what was going on with that one 'turn absolute into permissive' red was I was listening on a hand scanner. Dispatch was running everyone through that red at restricted while they had a maintenance crew en route (which sadly I couldn't hang around long enough to see). It made for great trainspotting but it was a giant four-chime pain in the pazotz for the poor crews all stuck in a traffic jam at that one jammed signal. What railroad did you used to drive for?

@carl6956 7 лет назад

I'll also add in the cab some locomotives have cab signals in the cab, the conductor calls out the types of lights displayed track side and the engineer concurs (agree) the crew must log it on a paper trip form of sorts,both the crew must know the different types of signals displayed and their meanings.

@nxtyrjrslm 11 лет назад

GE loco's are alive and well[sp-patches] pushing real of trains [kcks]-uncle-p's older than 1983?

@meccaturbo 12 лет назад

Looks nothing like the ex PRR, with these modern signals. Another bit of history bites the dust.

@dknowles60 5 лет назад

You can thank the fed gov for that

@scottperry6674 9 лет назад

They just had to throw that GE in there!!!!! Ruined such a great sound of EMDS pulling in notch 8!!

@AliceInChains243 12 лет назад

@gringo4x4do Sounds like you and me have got a deal!

@meccaturbo 14 лет назад

looks so un-PRR with the position light signals gone...

@dknowles60 5 лет назад

Thank the fed gov

@carl6956 8 лет назад

Would have been nice if all the power were SD-45's

@AliceInChains243 8 лет назад

+Carl Covington On some occasions, it was actually. None that I ever got to witness personally, but it did happen every now and again given that the train originated in North Jersey.

@christophercoleman1895 8 лет назад

+AliceInChains243 a train full of trash now that stinks lol 😄😄😄😄

@AliceInChains243 8 лет назад

christopher coleman Oh believe me, it did. Watching this go by during the Winter months was fine (and ideal), but watching it slowly claw it's way uphill during a hot sunny day in the middle of July was everything but. Great sound, but that was about it!

@christophercoleman1895 8 лет назад

AliceInChains243 yeah I can imagine the smell during summer pu city

@AliceInChains243 8 лет назад

christopher coleman Like you wouldn't believe. Watching one slowly make it uphill one afternoon 7 miles west of here up on the rocks at Bennington a year prior that Summer was especially brutal lol. Even worse were the poor bastards in the manned helpers on the tail end that had been shoving since Altoona! For their sake, I hope gas masks were applied.

@spacecalander 7 лет назад

Needed more GEs they have 1400hp over those tired 645s

@dknowles60 5 лет назад

Get are crap hint not many he get rebuilt

@AliceInChains243 15 лет назад

I've been listening to the west slope feed alot here home in CT, and that badass little 65J has been rolling through Cresson at 7AM on the dot...so if this trend continues and Jersey keeps generating that much trash as always, you gotta get out on the east slope by at least 6AM to grab this thing. Just my guess.

@blainevideos123 11 лет назад

Eeeesh, are you a troll or what!?