A severe downgrade 14 years later... 

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*Drives one cm in Infinite* The tire tracks: ⬅️↙️↙️↖️↙️➡️↘️↗️

Bungie cared a lot about the small details. That's what made the games feel immersive and gave them so much soul.

It’s actually nuts how halo 3 is 16 years old yet still smacks new games out the park with how it looks and runs

Halo 3 sand also had sound effect sweeteners. You have to listen very closely but you can hear the sand falling back down after it has been kicked up.

A massive downgrade. I miss the old landscape effects. This and the snow effects were great in Halo 3.

Halo 3 is really timeless

It's the same with the water physics in H3 and Infinite.

This is just AAA gaming as a whole sadly. Still doesn’t excuse halo infinite and 343.

I like the halo 3 explosion effects , plasma decal marks on walls better then the newer games

I wasn't thinking too much of it, but the way the tire tracks were left behind the warthog makes me believe that there has to be some sort of bug going on here.

you know what detail hasn’t been a halo game since CE? The Assault Rifle, Sniper Rifle & Shotgun i believe, you can see their bolts/actions cycle in 3rd person as it fires & ejects rounds. the best gun for this is the AR though as when You or Marines fire, the bolt goes to the rear as the rounds eject which is an amazing detail i’ve only seen in CE of All Halos

Halo is a lot like a divorced couple. At first it was two happy parents (Microsoft and bungie) who loved their child and gave the child everything they could ever dream. One parent gave the child toys and adventures (bungie) while the other funded everything (Microsoft) Then one day, one parent abandoned the family in pursue of a richer partner (bungie to activision). The now alone divorced partner (Microsoft) quickly remarried as an attempt to keep the kid happy because they don’t know how to do it themselves. Only problem is this 2nd parental figure (343i) is some trashy money hungry gold digger who not only pockets the money (Microsoft) gives them to make the kid happy, but also constantly scams the kid to make extra money on the side while (Microsoft) doesn’t really care because now they are making even more money.

Tbh this is nothing compared to how hard we got fucked on campaign and story...

Always remember, 343 doesn't care about Halo because they didn't earn it, it was given to them without any effort.

I am just glad I wasnt the only one who noticed this, Reach was still using their techniques (mostly) but once 4 was release I could very much tell those quality pieces were dropped.

I’ve been trying to tell people how well Halo 3 has aged for a decade. Every year it gets better.

"Hey everyone! So, I have great news. 343 has just Tweeted that they're updating the footprints in Halo Infinite. I for one am very excited. We know there have been bumps in the road but 343 has been listening. Please like and subscribe for more Halo news, not content." - Mint Blitz

0:42 ok 343 that just looks terrible #fire343

343: we tested the impact of grenade physics on specific surface & determined that the readability isn't clear, we'll continue to monitor this closely. H3 Players: 🙃

Crazy how many people let infinite slide because it kind of had the old art style

Bungie knew how to creatively work within their limitations

Halo 3 just goated

It reminds me of how Dark Souls 1 had a single area with snow, yet they added accurate footsteps and such to the map. Meanwhile, Skyrim has half of it's overworld map covered in snow... yet they didn't think to add footsteps

I'm surprised no one has noticed this yet but in the OG (Halo: R, 1, 2, 3) series the gun on the classic warthog has sway on it when you turn as if it implies the gun is heavy weaponry that can move on its own. In infinite.....no such thing, go ahead and check I already did. I have no idea how 343 missed this.

I've noticed a lot of newer games have higher res textures and better graphics, but the visuals and artstyle are nothing more than flat. Halo Reach IMO had the best visuals and artstyle in the franchise. Halo 3 has the most details in any halo game. I have my issues with the bungie halo games and the 343 games, but Halo infinite looks higher resolution in textures and more polygons yeah, but the artstyle and visuals are just not there at all. It looks like every basic unreal engine 4 game or gimmicky project that has very little to offer in visuals other than high resolution, high poly count and ray tracing. It's a complaint I've had with GOD KNOWS how many ubisoft games in the past 8 or so years, it's plaguing games everywhere. Everyone's so obsessed with high graphical fidelity that visuals and artstyle just aren't there.

$500 million budget for Halo infinite btw 😂

Halos ruined now guys the sand isn’t as high detail

The assault rifle got a massive upgrade , but the warthog skid textures got a massive downgrade. I'd say this is a 50/50.

Halo limited

Back then games were about story gameplay and detail. Now games are just how long can we keep scamming our consumers. They had limited resources so they couldn’t add everything but were able to add more detail to make up for the fact.

What do you expect? The people work in game studios probabyl wear a tail to work everyday.

You actually can see your leg model in infinite, but you need to decrease your FOV in the settings to do so. All in all, I'm not sure if I would say this is a "massive downgrade". There are lots of features I'd like out of infinite before they fix any of the issues shown in this video.

My same problem with most games coming out. It feels like a block world with a skin over it. Riders republic really made me feel this way.

How does infinite still look like its in beta 3 years after release...

This is a brilliant showcase as to why - if you did Halo in the Unreal engine, which has built-in and robust support for these kinds of effects, it would look and feel phenomenal. The sense of place would be powerful. The idea of seeing a room that looks like the "Lobby Scene" from The Matrix, only in Halo? That's incredible to imagine.

Who gives a shit? The sand particles look better in infinite and the weapon audio is better too.

I love how you can't even see your tootsies in halo inf but you can in any other bungie halo game

actually disgusting to see. cant believe THIS was the future for games

Footprints and tire tracks in Infinite are so bad that it would be better to get rid of them completely.

I wouldn't say MASSIVE downgrade. More like stagnation. Both do the same

Halo infinite visuals look really unfinished. Some maps look better than others. Halo infinite got so many wacky visual issues. The lighting looks awful in infinite.

I LOVE when people take their time to point out the little details THANKS

what even is this video? infinite is a beautiful game compared. i swear all you people do is complain about every little thing these days 😂 weirdddd

That’s not Halo 3 (2007) That’s Halo 3 upgraded for the Mcc but it’s clear what you’re saying for a certain point of view. Those details are important

When Halo 3 came out, I was blown away by the graphics!

infinite feels like an early access indie game

One of the side effects of a new engine is some extra detail stuff like this takes time to get back to that level of detail. Infinite is incredibly detailed on some areas and lacking in others. This is definitely an area where they're lacking. H4 and H5 in comparison didn't really have this issue

Idk if you guys get this bug in halo infinite but sometimes the game won't load correctly and the graphics will be downgraded by like 70% and it looks terrible

343 sucks and ruined halo, their games are cartoony and only little kids/nerds think otherwise. 🙄 bungie and the call of duty devs will always be the masters of art, beauty and war!! ✝️😎

Literally was just testing this a day ago. If you shoot a light bridge it does nothing!

God this is sad. Sums it all up.

Literally unplayable -100000/10 343 should be ashamed 😔

it doesn't make any sense. bungie had 3 years to develop Halo 3. 343 had 6 years.

Okay, so... Footsteps: *H3:* Round, for whatever reason? They look like enlarged bullet holes. Maybe that's what they are... Not very sand-looking. *Infinite:* Lacking depth and doesn't look like sand; but at least it's an actual FOOTprint. Bullet Impact: *H3:* Sand looks very coarse, more like gravel. Barely any dust. *Infinite:* Looks very dusty and sandy, as it's supposed to. However, particles disappear a little too soon, gives the sand slightly less substance. Only noticeable when REALLY paying attention to it. Grenades: *H3:* Don't bounce off of sand (more realistic), explosion creates more sand and dust, and leaves a clear stain on the ground; but it looks rather unspectacular. *Infinite:* Do bounce off of sand, makes sense for gameplay reasons and consistency, but not very realistic. Explosion is a lot more spectacular and fitting to the damage it does. Doesn't create a lot of dust during the explosion, but even more so shortly afterwards - something H3 doesn't do at all. Warthog: *H3:* Very little dust, no tire tracks. *Infinite:* Tires create a lot of dust, as it is fitting for sandy ground. And something's definitely wrong with the video. The tire tracks in Infinite are choppy, yes, but not completely random. They usually even look somewhat good, and unlike in H3; exist! "A severe downgrade 14 years later" - yeah, no. But alas, as I can see from the comments, if you present the content the right way, people will fall for the misleadings. It may not be an upgrade, but I'll be damned if it ain't at least on par. But hey, putting Infinite in a mildly positive light doesn't bring in any views, eh?

OG Halo 3 is a masterpiece of gaming

I’m still holding onto my Xbox 360 with all my original halo games ☺️😮‍💨🥰

At first i was like "how bad could it be" but wow. Severe is right.

Halo 3 holds up to this day with both visuals and gameplay. It’s crazy, mcc pc halo 3 is fun as hell and I still play it

I’m a believer that the little details AREN’T everything, not by a long shot. But when it persistently feels like something is missing on every front, sometimes looking at them can kind of summarize what’s wrong with the bigger picture. Halo Infinite was several steps in the right direction, but some of those were only because Halo 5 was so lost. I’m glad they at least _eventually_ made the multiplayer into something. I’d like them to try again. I mean, they kinda got their head halfway outta their holes, now just give another good tug and maybe we can hit as good or better than 4. (And I understand the camp that some are in that Infinite is better than 4, I just fundamentally disagree with it.)

Fire 343

It’s a downgrade because of the footprints then?

Halo 3 physics and details are awesome.

Halo 3 is one of the most beautiful games ever made

Man I miss the classic assault rifle look. I was never a fan of the Halo reach design.

Man I hate the ''pro player'' excuse, not because a game is used for e-sports it means it has to be dull as shit, Halo 3 had the massive MLG and it wasn't a bad game with no physics and bad looks like Halo Infinite is.

I'm in disbelief looking at those tire tracks. I just can't understand how this got past QA.

All the effects are so lifeless in Infinite

Proof that you can't just throw money at a video game to ensure it's a good product. You need software engineers who know their engines well enough to simulate sand / snow trails and parallax textures, PBR, and other visual and physical effects. That, and not have a super buggy tire trail.

I kind of lost interest when 4 came out. It just didn’t seem as good. Let alone better than previous games. I still prefer the original myself and was pretty happy with the updated version. The playability was just simple. 3 was awesome though

i cant believe its been 14 years.. God i miss high school😭i miss the parties the petty drama the teachers, the fights, after school etc etc

Halo 3 was brimming with excitement over the new hardware possibilities. Infinite is 343 struggling to make decals work.

But a MASSIVE upgrade in overall graphics, terrain rendering, draw distances, texture detail, photo grametry and physically based rendering, anti-aliasing, lighting, particle effects, alpha effects, material rendering, reflections, physics, level of overall detail, size and scale, in game asset rendering, animates, resolution and framrate, and just about every other conceivable tech thing you can name. Channels like this are so desperate to hate on infinite, they make stupid ridiculous vids like this and think it’s some sort of victory.

I couldn't stand to play infinite after finishing the story once. The multiplayer was horrendous. The grenades don't leave smoke after they explode, everything feels like it weighs nothing and cheap.

I mean I wouldn't say a severe downgrade but I completely agree that it should look far better than it does

bro I would rather just not have the tire tracks 💀

Wow, explosions still look absolutely awful. How have they not fixed that by now

infinite worst for the sand????? REALY?

For a game made in 2007 halo 3 looks amazing even to this day still deserves a remaster though

1. I appreciate your removing the Hud and reticle so we can get a better view of what you're conveying. 2. I noticed they were trying to "flare-up" grenades in Infinite. My brother was in bootcamp a few years ago and has decent experience with grenades and I'm certain that he'd prefer Bungie's approach to their animations because it ain't plumes of flame you gotta worry about. It's the shrapnel. 343 Went full Hollywood.

I was watching the warthog tracks screaming in my head "no, god no please...no no NOOOO!"

One is built with passion The other, filled with greed

We need a *Halo 3: Anniversary.* I want it so bad right now.

I like how the grenades sound like puffs of air now

I do miss the attention to small details in games. It made them feel more alive

halo 3 will never be topped. 343 is a parody company making satire halo games

They just needed to open the H3 anniversary world and expand on that and all fans would’ve been happy instead of the infinite crap we got

Crazy as to what was achieved on the 360 hardware that somehow can't be achieved on newest hardware. Yet as the tech gets better, the quality does the exact opposite.

The tire tracks don't do that for me, as of now, although there's been a lot of updates since this video was uploaded, and the no body/legs thing is because, any FOV value above the default, disables them, due to a clipping issue that happens, when you look down you look through your character model, this has been an issue since the early flights, in the first flight for Halo Infinite changing the FOV value above the default value, didn't make the legs disappear like that, and instead allowed you to see the clipping issue when you look all the way down, I submitted a ticket, to 343 during that flight, in hopes they would address it, so when the second flight was released, instead of actually fixing the issue, they just covered it up, and disabling the body/legs then the FOV value is set to anything above the default value, I like to play with my FOV set to 90, and yes there's no body/legs for me, I hope they fix it at some point, because Halo: MCC's FOV setting works no problem, and Actually had this same issue, during their PC Flights, and 343 decided to properly fix it on those titles, but not for Halo Infinite not sure why that is, possibly because they keep adding more, and more content, and all the events, I just hope they'll get around to improving the smaller details, because all the small things add up, and help the immersion, and overall visual quality.

It’s a shame halo is what it now is I miss the days when a halo came out everybody got excited and it was a hit every time you could spend months playing those games finding new Easter eggs or running multiplayer

This stuff and more instantly stood out to me. Modding H3, I was getting the same feel of the shooting mechanics before infinite came out, but with better looking explosions, bullets & tracers with drop, and decals from plasma. H3 was awesome. If they’d go back and redo the things you highlighted it would make a serious difference. It’s like crackdown level explosions and decals. Classic sounds from vehicles make a huge difference too.

I have to say man, those footprints and the marks on the ground from the tires are goofy

ill never get over the explosion effects, sound and visual wise

Graphics < Details + art direction

to be honest after seeing how they improved the VFX for the equipment and explosions I think they can fix this, not to excuse the lack of development at launch but you gotta admit the team has been on top of things lately.

Phantom explosions: 📉 Physics: 📉 Netcode: 📉 Playerbase: 📉 Creativity: 📉 Continuity: 📉 Rule of cool: 📉 Scarabs: 0️⃣ Map remakes: 📉 Derpy ass looking brutes: 📈 Greed: 📈 Cliffhangers: 📈

The difference between 343 Halo and Bungie halo 343 halo - a game built by committee, following business trends, a machine trying to force golden eggs out of a goose Bungie Halo - A game built by passionate artists, with a desire to make something great that people will enjoy, improving and evolving on what they built before.

Bruh what besides the obviously bugged warthog tracks infinite is miles better yall coping Fr

So you’re just gonna ignore the fact that halo 3’s gameplay feels slow and thick as molasses Unlike the fluid and slick gameplay of infinite

Lmao at the grenade explosion in infinite