A simple method for KBDs  

FUCK NO. HITBOXES ARE SHIT!!!! I can do KBDs faster than that on a ARCADE STICK

Literally saw my whole attack go through the body of my opponent and his attack that didn't even touch me, hit me 😭 I don't understand how that works if it's not because of being Tobi in disguise

Low motor coordination

​@@milesprower6110huh

Hitbox doesn't make you automatically good at the game, nor is it easier to learn. Thats why we still have pros using stick and pads. if you really want to go have the hitbox experience, play on keyboard its pretty much exactly the same. I've played on both.

You can do the same thing on keyboard.

@@kaenpe4483 I did but it won't let me on the left side,

@@kazumasumeragi3666it works on both sides

@isaacduran4572 You mean like Tanukana-san and Yuyu-san, Tekken 7 best Ling Xioyu female players

its made for us keyboard users

if you found that expensive then it wasn't made for people like you

If you're on PC you have the keyboard.

I've been thinking of making a cheep one with a box, Chinese parts and using buttons as the stick inputs. If you have time is really cheap, also if you aren't a purist (Sanwa buttons only or shit like that)

You can get some really good ones for 100 bucks with sanwa buttons and stuff you just gotta look a little

@@spoilerguy7285that’s like saying a G7 jet isn’t made for you. No duh. Doesn’t make them any less expensive. I would love one but couldn’t possibly bring myself to make such a ridiculous purchase

You having trouble with the F HC F?

RDC IS TOP 5 HARDEST INPUTS IN TEKKEN 7

depends on controllers but yes clarification: some styles have last input instead of both inputs

​@@daddysakurai8883 It's actually really easy you don't even have to do it perfect

LMAAAOOOOO

😂😂

Using a hitbox is like having the bumper lanes up when bowling 😅😅

imagine on pad....but i figured it out lmao

​@@420mrhat😂😊😂😊😂😊😊😊😂😂

I mean, you literally chose to handicap yourself by playing on a stick. Even a Playstation controller is a better device to play Tekken on (or any fighting game for that matter)

@@florinalinmarginean1135 Sure, but is it more fun? I didn't skip straight to korean lever with no time on a Dualshock. I played FGs mainly on the xbox conch, DS3 and 4 before switching to stick. I personally find controllers less enjoyable and more taxing on my left hand/thumb. I'm aware there is hardware for easier execution and am being hyperbolic in my post.

Clear advantages with no repercussions. Sad that most folk would use leverless. Input shortcuts that aren’t on standard controller or legacy fight stick, give unfair advantage. -Brian main using a K-lever.

@@cpt.zangscarlet1898 I don't think there is an objectively "fun" controller, but I personally enjoy it when I am allowed to control my character precisely instead of whatever the hell arcade sticks were trying to do with fighting games. That said, some motions are actually harder on Hitbox, like any quarter circle, half circle or full circle that involves "up" as an input. They are not common though, so it's mostly irrelevant

@@kublaikhan8600 Don't blame leverless users for using leverless, blame T.O's for allowing leverless sticks in competitive settings. If you're going to play in a competitive setting, why wouldn't;'t you take the path of least resistance? Why handicap yourself with years of years of perfecting execution on a K-lever when you can achieve the same results in a fraction of the time using leverless?

U must be stupid af tekken 8 out and I STILL SEE NOOBS WTF

How did it go ?

me too! (my dad abused me)

@@aladdin4715 might as well enjoy it I guess.

I just tried it, really cool ( I just can't kick the bad habit of doing lines at work )

@@Vert_GreenHeart I forgot to try it 😂. I’ll do it tomorrow.

Why would you ever need to press both?

​@OxOMRK005HOxO watch the video then you can answer your own questions

I mean, you have a pad and joystick on your average ps controller

still hitbox/keyboard has their weakness too compare to joystick motion inputs like half circle motion or full circle are harder on hitbox/keyboard than joystik so at the end of the day each has their advantage and disadvantage then also it depends on player skill and device choice

​@@OxOMRK005HOxO it gives a neutral input instantly, which means you can do extremely fast back dashes

Prob gonna be a shop costume

Same

^^^ this is so real. Idk why ppl get so pissed over hitboxes/stickless controllers. If you lose against someone using a leverless controller its bc ur worse then them end of story thats why we still have pros playing on pad and fightsticks.

​@@benj4845"idk why people get so pissed" youre literally watching a guy do left-right inputs at the same time on a controller to do a fundamental advanced move that's impossible on any other controller besides a keyboard. I dont even hate hitboxes but youre just being obtuse here

@@carnagewolf1 except its not "impossible"? theres ppl who play on stick and pad

@@benj4845 Doing left input and right input at the same time is literally impossible on a stick. The stick can only go in one direction. What??????

@@carnagewolf1 you're acting like the kbd is hard to do on stick or pad... you dont need socd to do kbds lol

Wait till you find out that the technique on P1 side isn't the same as P2😂

​@@UltimateBallaPOM A couple shorts uploads before this one is P2 side just in case y'all need it 👍

😂😂😂 I choked on my bread this is gold

Nah they utilize side stepping

Her sidestep is so good that she doesn't need to KBD.

They use hayashida step

Some people practice with nina since her backsways are a giveaway that u messed up.

Heeras movement is good, not the best

​@@SioneLatu676 He has the best movement for a Steve that's for sure that early makes him the best when it comes to movement with Steve.

​@@Taiwainui-qw3xb ever heard of Lowhigh? Lmao

@@FollowTheDamnTrain0 his is still better than Low High when it comes to Movement with Steve my guy.

@@Taiwainui-qw3xb Lowhigh beat him in a Steve mirror tho

Thanks!

what does that mean?

He's using a hit box controller. Where directional inputs are buttons. Seen to be almost "cheating" in fgc​@@Hype_Incarnate

​@@Hype_Incarnateim just poking fun brother.

​@@HitBoxArcadescum

Did u buy it? I heard razer kitsune has a great one

people are still taking dualshocks/dualsense to EVO, you do you man

Wow, a controller that does what you input instead of destroying your wrist or breaking down after a couple of months because the membrane under the dpad consumed is crazy! Almost as if controllers should be efficient for the game you're trying to play. Imagine if the racing games community banned steering wheels because it lets you control your steering very precisely instead of turning 0-90 degrees like on a dpad lmao

@@florinalinmarginean1135 some people in FGC really dislikes Hitbox and Mixbox. It is okay to use in the comforts of your home but in major tournaments and EVO, there are quite a lot of people protesting against it because it gives unfair advantage. You cant input left and right instantaneous in stick and pad and not to mention it doesnt kill your hands and wrist plus it is much precise than a modded Ps4/5 controller and top tier Panthera/Hori sticks

@@ViperDivinityQuite a lot of scrubs protesting them.

@@Zakaru99 not really. Only pro players.

Keyboard players aren't banned from tournaments - it's just difficult to find converters for them to play in person on consoles.

@@HitBoxArcade it’s prohibited at evo

@@iatlas-_-129 There is no mention of keyboard being banned at EVO: www.evo.gg/rules In addition, the adapters that would allow keyboards to play on console are allowed.

@@HitBoxArcade “are keyboards legal at evo”. “The keyboard alone is not allowed to compete in offline CPT tournaments and must be paired with a controller” is what it’s telling me. Hit box is definitely cheating. The advantage is wild

@@iatlas-_-129, The info you just shared says the keyboard is allowed - it simply needs to convert through a controller. In addition, the info you have shared applies to Offline CPT events. It is unclear if this means CPT ran events that are offline, or offline events that are part of CPT. If the former, then what you have shared does not apply to EVO. If the former, then there is a conflict of rulings between EVO and CPT: EVO does not have a ban on keyboards and does not allow no SOCD cleaning, while CPT only allows keyboards on Steam and does allow no SOCD cleaning. Since the initial statement you presented was about EVO, we will stand by the ruling that EVO has. This matches our experience of having keyboard players coming to our booth to try out the Hit Box. And boothing next to a keyboard company at EVO 2023. In addition, a quick Google search provided us these examples from EVO 2023. Someone playing pools on a keyboard: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CO3CCp0IvGo.html Someone who was playing on a keyboard but their converter broke: twitter.com/Dacidbro/status/1687526527796396037 Our experience at EVO and other major events suggests to us that keyboards are allowed at tournaments.

Wait until you hear what they're doing in Tekken 8!

@@HitBoxArcadegood response lol

If a thing becomes easier, it will lose its worth.

@@JerryMishima I agree, hitbox is sinful.

​@@JerryMishimaEasier? Nah it ain't happening when the top half of ranks knows how to truly play, and those who truly want to play tekken would love to be the top half, so they'd have to ditch the easy playstyle if they wanna play competitively

What changed? For me it works the same as before

This technique still works in Tekken 8.

@@MrCrypto137 As far as I know nothing changed about KBD, what changed was the base dash (Just double tap Back) cooldown was significantly cut. KBD is still faster and more movement but playing without it is far more viable now.

Relevant: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ICM9gQECAhY.html

Everyone can benefit from improving. Hitboxes are still cheap though LOL

The game literally has built in in-game RB RT youre good fam

I don't really care what you think is cheating if you thought having triggers and bumpers was cheating lmao

​@@macsweenehes just probably new. Cut some slack

what are some inputs that are generally hard to get down when learning hitbox for Tekken? I got one coming my way and I'm trying to know what to practice asap.

@@cmar601 Yo! Congratulations on your purchase. Depending on your willingness to learn, your journey is either going to be very short or extremely long😂🫡. Which character/s do you plan on using? It helps me tailor the answer so you don't get overwhelmed.

@@UltimateBallaPOM Lili right now and until Marduk makes a possible comeback I'm considering Leroy or Leo. And feel free to throw whatever at me, I might be able to keep up.

@@cmar601 Alright. In general; Player 2 side is the true indication of your skill level as a Leverless player. It's similar to how Player 1 side is the actual boss-level difficulty in terms of learning Mishimas on Arcade Stick. There is much less shortcuts and the alternate inputs tend to be more difficult than just learning it the original way. You will want to practice A LOT on P2 side because once they realize how godlike you are on P1 they just have to do a side-switching throw attempt(the throw doesn't even need to be broken). Lili and Marduk don't have anything too demanding so you'll be able to express yourself sooner as opposed to other characters. With Lili you want to familiarise yourself with stance cancels that use Up to cancel and you also want to get used to quarter circle motions on both sides. With Quarter circles you can choose Nina and launch with df2 and do qcf+1 4x. Once you can do that, and you have Anna available, you can try her df2 > qcf1 > 1(or 2 if you want to make it harder) > qcf1. Once you progressed through that you can choose Dragonuv and do Qcf2 > qcf4 > 1 > qcf4. If you're exceptionally talented and/or skilled you can progress to the highest level; Paul's qcf1 multiple times(1) and his qcf3+4 > qcb4. There are other frame perfect ones like Punishing -15 moves with deathfist or whatever these combo artists are doing in-between combos, but that's just madness. Characters that have Up button stance cancel and qcf moves are Paul, Dragonuv and Bryan. Marduk benefits from the qcf training since he has a virtual safe launcher in qcf1, an absolutely devastating low with qcf2 and two command grabs in qcf1+3 or 2+4. I will assume you are comfortable with VTS cancels (3+4 x2) and you can do them in combos to fully optimise his wall carry and disgusting combo damage.

@@cmar601 hardest input to get down is a full circle motion, but the 2D characters are leaving and so are their instant air attack shenanigans. RIP 💔. (You don't need the whole circle motion, but you have to wait for 6f after the first frame of Up to considered airborne, and ain't nobody got time fo' dat. Entering the full motion helps with your sense of timing). Half circle motions have been cracked. Drum them if the input has leniency or use 2 fingers to slide from one direction to the other if cardinals and diagonals are strict. True KBD on Player 2 side is a tough one too. You can cheese it out by quickly sliding one finger of your left hand from down to right after tapping right first with your right hand index( you get B * D,B * which is the bare minimum to pull a KBD). It's universal for the whole cast(including backsway characters like Nina, Paul, Bryan). You can just B *qcb * for all non-backsway characters. This helps you train your wavedashing, so it's definitely something to look into and practice regularly. DP(electric motions on P2 side). There's EZ mode Kazuya methods and there's 14f electric versions that every other godfist character has to use. P1 has a few techniques, but you can even get away with raw-dogging it since the index and middle finger are pretty strong already. Train yourself to also just input D,df * without the final forward input. This applies to Lili too. That way you have access to instant while standing moves. Find what technique works best for you. I have seen that using other fingers than the standard assigned(Ring, Middle, Index for Left, Down, Right) ones to the button helps, e.g D,dB you would use your Middle,Index rather than the standard Ring,Middle. You need about 5~6f of pressing a combination of down,down-forward for you to be considered in Crouching state. That's about it. P.S there's ways to do perfect input(1f per input) versions of all these techniques(that's what determines whether you be training for 2 or so months or 2+ years).

HAHA IM ON CONTROLLER TOO.

@@kaidenn_4 good luck for tekken 8 brother 😭💪🏻

@@lechaatr193 Fr were dead 🙌

Nothing wrong with a controller man. Plus with kbd being ehhh on T8, it wouldn't be such a huge factor unless you're against total noobs.

There's always cheaper options out there like the Haute42 which is a fraction of the price.

the same way you dont acknowledge stick is an advantage to gamepads.

Tekken 8's simple inputs will be fun!

@@HitBoxArcade it's always funny when a new fighting game comes out theres always endless complaining about the changes

​@@junglebeatzShut up Mimsy!

​@@HitBoxArcadeit's like you're completely oblivious 🤦‍♂️

@@ryanreliford4738 He's not oblivious lol, he just knows the comment is dumb as hell. Play on a hitbox and tell me how many "auto-wins" you get. Just a silly thing to say on the face of it.

Meh

The Hit Box is legal for all major grassroots and developer-ran FGC events, including: EVO, Combo Breaker, CEO, Capcom Pro Tour, Tekken World Tour, ArcSys World Tour, and more. The Hit Box is legal for CPT 2023 events with the latest firmware: www.hitboxarcade.com/blogs/hit-box/hit-box-downloads

Yes, yes they will. Every competitive game out there is currently dealing with this type of nonsense in some form or another.

Sounds like you’re just bad tbh

Skill issue

You can do this on keyboard/mixbox

@@killuaxx2085 this isn't how the game was designed to be played. That's my problem with this tech.

​@@mr.a2399I mean COD was meant to be played with KB/controller yet a paraplegic plays through a tube should he not play? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kPMTDFThwq8.html

​@@mr.a2399COD is meant to be played with a KB/controller yet Rockynohands plays through a tube should he not play?

​@sikwitit773 are you implying mixbox players are PWDs?

The Hit Box is legal for all major grassroots and developer-ran FGC events, including: EVO, Combo Breaker, CEO, Capcom Pro Tour, Tekken World Tour, ArcSys World Tour, and more. The Hit Box is legal for CPT 2023 events with the latest firmware: www.hitboxarcade.com/blogs/hit-box/hit-box-downloads

Theyve been legal for how long now? I remember the first time they talked about it because someone won a big event with one, but since then, no one has said anything about them.

We hope people are not so deeply affected by a month-old video for a previous game that they are declared with Lordship.

They already are tho how are you gonna simplify it even more? There’s simply just not enough buttons on the controller

He's a Japanese Lever guy.

Can you share with us where you got this information? The Hit Box is legal for all major grassroots and developer-ran FGC events, including: EVO, Combo Breaker, CEO, Capcom Pro Tour, Tekken World Tour, ArcSys World Tour, and more. The Hit Box is legal for CPT 2023 events with the latest firmware: www.hitboxarcade.com/blogs/hit-box/hit-box-downloads

There is one on Amazon for like 60 usd. Not saying that is cheap. But definitely cheaper.

Same hitbox is like 30% of my salary lol , use a keyboard instead

Currently, the Hit Box is not compatible with XSX. We are working diligently for compatibility on all modern consoles. For the time being, you can use a Brook Wingman XB adapter to provide Xbox compatibility to your Hit Box: www.brookaccessory.com/products/wingmanxb2/index.html

Well, yeah.

We plan on making content in the future for our Cross|Up controller for Tekken 8. (Otherwise you can browse our channel to see Cross|Up content for Tekken 7)

Except for when the other person is playing better than you.

@@HitBoxArcade skill issue

@@gandalfdawhitekid913 Correct, that is literally the definition of skill issue, LOL

In this video, we are using SOCD.

KBD is still better than a standard dash back, from our testing in T8.

@@HitBoxArcadeside stepping will also be a better option 95% of the time

​@@ΚρανίΩsidestepping is character dependant Some characters will have better options out of a whiff punish via spacing gained from kbd

Regular backdash is slow, KBD is fast, and you're blocking the whole way back if done correctly (not accidentally crouching). Having good movement is a big buff to your gameplay. In this case, you're backing up to control spacing and potentially cause your opponent to punch the air (whiff), creating an opportunity to punish them. In Tekken 8 the regular backdash is improved and the game is designed to be more offensive, so you'll be able to get away with not needing KBD for a longer period, but eventually it'll be desirable if you wanna step up your game.

@@HylianDakota This was an amazing insight. Thank you! I will take this mechanic and start practicing to get better 💯

The Hit Box is legal for all major grassroots and developer-ran FGC events, including: EVO, Combo Breaker, CEO, Capcom Pro Tour, Tekken World Tour, ArcSys World Tour, and more. The Hit Box is legal for Capcom Pro Tour events with True Neutral SOCD Mode on the latest firmware: www.hitboxarcade.com/blogs/hit-box/hit-box-downloads