A terrible discovery leads to an ongoing mystery 

If someone texted me to take care of their dogs, i would immediately check on their welfare. Wtf.

I like to think that a gang of syphilitic grizzly bears are running a train on him, as we speak. What a waste of oxygen....

He could have just NOT killed them, and started a new life with some other woman.

You should put up a picture of that monster just in case someone will recognize him

This is hardly a podcast! It's MASTERPIECE!!!! Should have millions of views ❤ Where are you people?

Horses, cattle, pigs on 1.5 acres???? I’m a Kansas farm girl, maybe Mormon acres are bigger than they are here

Some predators, are specific to preying on women they can easily manipulate. I’ll never understand how humans can be so vile .

I lived in Ogden for 14 years. Nadia and Peyton (Payton...????) lived about a mile away. I remember when this case hit the news. The LDS church is very communal and it seemed like everyone knew Mike was trouble but no one talked about it openly.

The only part I liked about this story was where Mike was disheveled, weathered and impoverished in the forest. He wasn't exactly a smooth criminal, was he?

I doubt he is dead, likely stole from campsites and made his way elsewhere.

I can't imagine him ending his day's in a forest. His survival instinct is to strong. And there is no real evidence of him in any forest.

Wow😮I grew up an hour from Ogden. It is hard growing up in Utah if your anything other than the Church😢

They gave up the search for him to quickly. He’s probably living in Canada 🇨🇦 or elsewhere.

I have always hoped that Mother Nature bested him.

Hello! It's unbelievable that people can live so falsely. Why didn't he just run away from the three of them when he was found out. Thank you for your podcast.

I thought it was very well explained with no hiccups. Good Job!

I remember this case. I live a couple towns over from Caldwell. It's always so weird to hear your home state being mentioned in crime shows.

He won’t be dead. People like that always find a way to survive. God help his next victim

Interesting that it is reported that dogs and cats "starved to death" in about 10 days. That is extremely unlikely though perhaps without enough water, they could have dehydrated in the heat. In a state of actual starvation, some among the dogs and cats would have scavenged those that had already died, thus obtaining adequate nutrition. Rabbits on the other hand would be more at risk from lack of food or water and they survived. There are some oddities in the story and not much follow up online.

And one snake....awwsss!!!! Storytellers d ont forget our fur and non fur babies in a story anytime!!

Why is the LDS church involved in so much family violence and after the chad and Lori fiasco, wtf, is going on in this church? I know many lovely people who belong to this church. I understand, as I was raised Catholic. I am also appalled at the sins of my church though I have not been active for over 30 years.

Your sound design is really top notch. Your sense for compelling narrative is great, too. This is my first impression of your work, looking forward to diving in to your backlog.

This was absolutely brilliant! Thank you

Really great, as always!!

my guess is being older he thought he could survive/hide out in the woods and died out there from an accident/exposure.

Thankyou as always, Saturday night complete 👍..

The LDS isn't a branch of the Christian church. They differ significantly in several areas to mainstream Christianity.

Hmmmmmmm..a rundown “FARM”..of 1.5 acres..? Ok. There’s SO MUCH wrong with this story, not only with the morals and ethics and SERIOUSLY screwed-up behavior of “Mike”..but ALSO with the MISrepresentation of a “large” property in Caldwell, Idaho..consisting of 1.5 acres and homes EITHER side just FEET away..

Sounds familiar "Chad & Lorry Daybell?"

Thank you x

FYI, and please don't take this as critical. At least in the US, a massage parlor is for sex workers Massage therapy at a spa is typically reputable. Great story! As a former massage therapist, I had to make that clear Thank you

My new favorite podcast. I live longer episodes to listen to during my workouts ❤

Thanks so much…❤

Just found your channel it’s great love from Uk 🇬🇧 x

Love this episode !

Perfect description of my thoughts too. God bless.

When will women and Society understand that if someone is beating you they are not your family anymore. Just because you married them thinking you'd be family for life they are not your family forever if what day do to you proves that they don't have that same caring and obligation toward you. You married an illusion and you need to leave. You are not abandoning a family member that you swore to love forever you're abandoning The Stranger they've been all along. And likewise once someone starts beating or badly of using a family member especially if it's a marriage partner people should no longer regard them as family. Police should investigate and prosecutors to prosecute whatever they do as if they were perfect strangers. Yes assaults and murderers wouldn't be considered quite the same as if they attacked someone in Cold Blood but honestly if you murdered a neighbor because you had an argument with them it might be murdered two instead of murder one but it would be murder. Likewise an assault would still be an assault. But when you are married to someone and it's regarded as a family illness, family problem, family conflict than it is not treated as a violent crime that it is! Nor all-too-often does the victim see it as the same crime they would if they were not already married to the criminal. We need to train ourselves and those potential victims out of that mindset. If the person you married appears to be a stranger now, they are a stranger and the person you thought you married never existed. They may do anything to you and they may not be prevented from it or investigated properly afterwards because it will be regarded as a family dispute or a climb of passion related to conflict between family members. It's nothing of the kind.

Recently found your channel and I am very glad I did

OMG this just came across I didn't pay attention to name but it's casefile one of my favorite I didn't even realize there was a RU-vid and as I've been binging stories on RU-vid I'm so glad to hear your voice here it's one of my favorite ever

i think hes still alive, living in another Country with a change of appearance. With another woman. He wont be dead.

Thanks Mate 👍

This was the FIRST podcast I heard from Case Files

Wow I live in California and someone wanted me to buy property in Caldwell to rent to college students😮 didn't do it I'm glad

Thank u just going to bed after sitting up with alnight with r sick dog so this wilk be a nice treat. 😎😎✌✌👌👌👍👍 frm the UK

Im 10 minutes in and i dont know if this is a real life true crime or a creepypasta

I love Case files podcast, but I do feel like on the RU-vid channel, it's a bit lazy to not include photographs and available video in this day and age. This case is horrific, even just hearing about how the animals suffered and died from starvation is tragic enough...let alone the murder of three women. I hope this POS is caught and brought to Justice!

Profound words for such a young girl😢

What a great time with u👍👍👍 Guess the sociopaths have a way out as usual..😎

Does anyone know if Case File has covered the Bain family murders yet?

Wow just came Across this

I used to live in caldwell

I often hear Ogden described as a small community. Its actually huge.

Have you done a video about the case of Darlie Routier?

I don't get why information would be withheld. Unbelievable. I hard earned $$$ at work.

Wish these slimy people came with warning labels... They are the very worst kind of evil.

Sue the cops for trying to apprehend a mass murderer,typical of the disordered thinking of people today.

Wait... Gerald was into Hinduism, but loved guns, and hunting? Ummmm. Ok.

Yes, he’s definitely a psychopath and cunning enough to fake his own death in the forest. He could well be living somewhere else, taking advantage of other women.

Idk why its so confusing to people that the animals were dead within 10 days. With NO water, cats and dogs will die within about 3 days. Sooner if they're already mildly dehydrated. Dogs can go about 5 days without food, and cats about 12, as long as they have water. They wouldnt be surviving by eating the ither animals who dird first because theyd all be in similar stages of dehydration - severe dehydration is really painful and the body stops digesting food at that point, so even if some tried they wouldn't be able to live any longer than the others.

Mormonism isn’t a branch of Christianity Edited to add (since my replies mysteriously disappear here): Mormonism still isn't a branch of Christianity.

What you don't get genius Mike was married, Sheryl was his wife and his real name was Jared or whatever. Nadia was the side chick.

So much family annihilation in the Mormon circles

😱🕊️🇺🇲👍👍☦️🐈📿🧬🧬🧬🫀🌸🌼🩰⛵🌺🌼 I'm sorry, I'M ADDICTED TO THE STORIES 🐱

Mormon is no more a Christian faith then is Hindu. Always surprises me when it’s still said.

Where is this accent from? Southern USA? New Zealand? Some parts of the UK? As a non-native English speaker i can't understand some words and i have to use subtitles in this channel sometimes ahah

Ive found a common thread amongst these tradgedies, women dnt take a lot of time between relationships, its good to heal oneself before diving in to a new relationship. Very well narrated and researched My thoughts being with Payton and Nadjas loved ones

A 1 and one-half acre property is not a “farm”!! 😂🤣

SPOILER ALERT GOOGLE HIS NAME FOR THE LATEST ON MIKE , IT WAS POSTED 6 JANUARY 2023

The amount of ads is disruptive and unconscionable.

This man is taking them on vacations and her kid is calling him Dad, and he says that the relationship is moving too fast 😂🤣

😢😢what a dog.

This man takes them on vacations, and she wants him to help pay her mortgage too??!! 😂🤣

Mormonism has Nothing to do with Christianity

This woman was 47, and he was in his late 50”s. INo relevant age difference here, and saying that she met an “older man” when she is 47 made me laugh. 😂🤣

Why in the world would a single retired man buy a 4 bedroom 2 bath house for retirement??!! 😂🤣

I feel for the Father who had a heart attack - men are so disposable.

I repeat the last comment, mormonism is NOT a branch of Christianity.

Why is the lids

what a scumbag... such ahorrible case, peytons msg at the end broke my heart 😢

Nadja, where's your Dawkins now?

I like the American accents in the US

I dont think you know what interstate means

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I’d file suit if my family, including my young child were basically detained at gunpoint by God knows how many officers. That’s traumatic and violates civil rights to the point of almost being terroristic. Understanding that they had reason to believe they may be stopping a violent and dangerous man; there was no need to drag out identifying the occupants for over an hour at gunpoint🤨

"The ever growing grass"... yup, it's true, grass grows. 😂

I escaped the cult of the christadelphians. There wasn't murder- that I know of, but there was plenty of other wickedness.

Waaaay too slow a pace of speaking...cannot keep my attention at all

What's being described is a psychopath not a sociopath

That guy was skinny & over 60 yrs old! 140 lbs & over 6 feet tall? Many women could have physically taken this coward down unless he had some kind of martial arts training. That’s why he used guns & manipulation.

Confusing

Add pics, videos to make this reporting more interesting; otherwise a tat boring. IMO

That's not a farm house you'd ever see in Utah or Idaho. More like Iowa.

You’ve been dating this man for 18 months. If he wanted to help you pay your bills, he would have a long time ago!! 😂🤣

I remember now why I'd unsubscribed previously. Not sure if you're bulking it out for ads but you do repeat things that have already been made clear.

Don’t repeat so much

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swag

Didn’t care for how this story was told; a bit disjointed to say the least.

Could you get to the friggin point??? Almost 17 minutes and ive had enough

Boy do i feel that bit about being an atheist in Utah. It sucks.