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I get home working 9 hours as a mechanic, do a side job, work on my own car, and sit down to watch someone else do what I do for a living... I've never asked myself why until now.
He's a Subaru guru not just a legend 😁 as much much as moog hates to admit it. Essentially Subaru has made the channel what it is 😁 moog secretly loves them too
They were ahead of the curve in global platform manufacture well before this decade where others have followed, though not all 6spds from Subaru are the same, the STi gear has a much shorter throw than a WRX or the std 6spd from any Legacy or other model, so the boys aren’t 100% correct there and it is stronger than the std 6spd, part of why an STI costs more, it’s not just a badge courage like riding the town bike!
@@maverick2242 the main problem with the 5 speed subie transmissions is the case and the small gear size, all the six speed transmissions from this era share the case and gear size, which are much bigger than the 5 speed, so any 6 speed is waaayyy better in almost every way from the era, even the legacy one is as strong as the sti one because the 6 speed legacy trans only came with the ez30 engine from the spec-b versions
Hondas are pretty much the same. Especially late 80s/early 90s. You can kinda take bits from one and put them on another for easy bolt on upgrades. Take Integra suspension bits and put them on a Civic, you'll get good results. I've got a project Honda, first gen Integra. Engine is a D16A3 which has the same bottom end as the EK Civic. Cheap to build a bottom end, but DOHC 16 valve head as opposed to a SOHC 12 valve with VTEC. Throw in the 5th gear from '85 Accord and the factory LSD from a '92 Civic and bam. Hillclimb monster with short gears 1-4 and a tall enough 5th to crack 200km/h. For peanuts. Also VTEC is a fuel economy thing. 80's DOHC stuff revs to the moon and is way more aggressive off the line. I feel like this applies to a lot of cars though. My best mate is a Ford guy and he often gives me information on using stock parts to make crazy stuff. Particularly with Falcons. Like apparently LPG taxi engines from BA Falcons have the same bottom end as the XR6t. So I assume this same thing applies to a lot of other cars.
@@dadi2450 Thats not why 5speed is getting damaged at all. Main reason is subaru just kept reusing 5mt box that was only ever meant for naturally aspirated ej15-ej25 motors. Adding a turbo adds tonanof torque and in veru brutal fashion especially if people go ham with boost instead of keeping it stock. Its already strained to its limit with 320nM of torque from WRX's motor. It is true that other 6 speeds like one in newer wrx and crosstrek/xv/2L Legacies was not based on 6mt of sti but was a rework of very same 5mt again, case is very similar, it was strenghtened a little tho and sadly is cable actuated unlike STi/Spec B 6 speed box and old 5mt.
"Marty and Moog make it look so easy!" 4 days later: "Be a car guy, they said. It'll be fun, they said. I swear to God if I hit my knuckles one more time you'll be able to see bone through the skin. Who thought it was a good idea to design it this way? How am I supposed to reach that bolt? I should just buy a new car"
@@iplaysdrums I've done just about everything but. Adding power to these cars basically requires forced induction, and that's no small task. There's no aftermarket, so everything must be custom one off.
@@fastinradfordable Either he's not joking and wheel alignment is out of whack or he means that because it now feels right, it has encouraged him to drive faster thus increasing fuel usage as a direct consequence 😁
Just did mine on the miata, a whole new world. And even beyond being damaged, i realize the precedent owner mounted them without knowing you're supposed to tighten them with the suspension compressed. The car went down almost 5cm just from installing them right. Breaks my spine every speed bump now though.
I always found it kind of funny how in Subarus you want the 6 speed to have the strongest gearbox, but in an Evo if you have a 6 speed you're going to have problems. And Evo guys swap in 5 speeds for more reliability
With subies it's the moreso about the shape of the box. Cause the 5 speed is split down the middle into halves it warps slightly under lots of load which causes the gears to shatter being misaligned. 6 speeds are beefy and not split with chunkier gear sets so they can handle more power :)
That’s because the EVO gearbox was not changed or updated, Mitsushittsi decided they could fit another gear in the same box which they did, so actually made it weaker, again these were cars for the street not a serious machine for modding, if you do that you build the car accordingly, every car stock is going to have issues somewhere once you start adding power. Where as the STI gearbox here was developed, I learnt something I didn’t realise the other half of Nazi family VW / Porsche helped develop it.
6 speed was the best mod I ever did to my gc8. Took a week or two under the car after work each night, but I eventually got it in by myself and without a hoist. A helping hand and a hoist would have been a dream.
For someone from Northeast United States seeing that long bolt come out so easily from the rear knuckle on a 20+ year old Subaru is jaw-dropping material.
i have a twin disk clutch in my 95 mustang and the manufacturer was very strict on the orientation and where the spacers were located because everything had to go back exactly where they put them for balancing reasons. blue loctite, torque specs and cleanliness is the name of the game.
I did this swap on the ground with a friend of mine into my 03 yellow bugeye, it took about 3 weeks worth of prep and tinkering to get everything from the donor car to my car (the donor car was in a barn with a super sketchy wood floor 🤣) and I tell you what, those 6spds are a lot heavier when one is right over your head 😂😂😂 it's so awesome to see you guys doing something that I have done, and seeing you all do it shows that I have a ways to go in my mechanical career haha
I love your videos. Gives me something to look forward too esp being in the hospital. Thanks to rona I cant have visitors.. it's hard, but anyway, not trying to make this about myself lol. I really love your videos tho. Been here for YEARS watching you guys. Can't believe how far yall have come. Great work guys!!!!
I don't understand how "Mighty Car Mods" video's "likes" are not close to the number of views? I know out of the 135K plus view about 100K forgot to like the video...that must be it because these videos are amazing. Lots of respect from South Africa.
I have to say, I really enjoy seeing what's cool in other countries. Great to watch something other than a Mustang or Camaro being built! Love the channel!
Things I learned via my brother (original and continued owner of a 2002 WRX Wagon, first year in US) about WRX 5-speeds: in mid-2002 production, the regular 5-speed got updated with the Type-RA gearbox from earlier special (Type RA) WRXs. The Type RA gearbox has physically longer gears so the gear teeth are longer and have more surface area; they are the largest gears that fit in the 5-speed gearbox casing. It wasn't a huge difference, but those 2002.5+ (you can find the VIN cutoff online) 5-speeds are a bit stronger. Starting in 2003 Subaru added a clutch damper to prevent super-snappy clutch dumps and take some more strain off the driveline. My brother's wagon is one of the late 02s with the stronger 5-speed but the snappier clutch, and I love the clutch feel on it, but even that "stronger" 5-speed feels delicate to the hand.
Most other RU-vidrs would have made this one episode a 4 part series to maximize the content out of it. MCM just does it right and makes it 1 video everyone loves and watches. Keep up the good work.
I got jammed out of 2rd gear in my Forester XT after I tried shifting at redline while doing helis. The syncromesh gets stuck as the failed shift puts burrs on the edges but it eventually freed it self up and was fine after that.
I always enjoy Engine/Transmission internals being crazy colors opposed to just plain silver or blaaaack, nobody but you will ever know that your clutch is purple and it gets hidden but its still a fun added touch.
I love to see how I have sweat in every single hole in my body whilst you guys are wearing hoodies and beenies... love from the opposite part of the world.
When the clutch and trans are off, not only check the rear main seal, but also the rear separator plate you can see on the right as you look at the rear of the motor. That one is stamped steel, which is decent and usually holds for a while. The worst are the plastic ones, which should be replaced. The best (and the one I luckily have) are the cast aluminum ones. That plate is on all EJs, btw.
Spotted blue smurf blood in the glass box!. GD8 or GCB for the win, I did full 06sti drive line inc arms, hubs, brakes, struts. Tip; get an 02 rear diff cradle, has better rear roll centre. Did it in a weekend in the driveway but that was when I had a back. Good fun Marty now bring it to the skid pan and do some skids!
Shes in great condition! Great example you have there and didnt realise the 6 speed swap was such a pain. I know first hand on these 5 speed breaking as my friend went through 2 of them on his 300hp WRX and left us stranded for a day in the countryside XD
I did the clutch on my 98 legacy. Also had the same thought to change the rear main seal. However, I installed it too deep and it didn't seal properly. Unfortunately I only realized after I put it all back together. So the next day I did it all again. What a weekend.
It's been a minute since i watched MCM .Miss this good old aussie channel .We get to watch and enjoy a 30 min clip while it would've taken some sweat and a lot of hours for all that spanner work Love the car boys #subiegang!
My friend hooked me up with Cheryl's box last christmas, I have dipped my fingers in a few times since then, and it is always a pleasure, Still a few untouched things of beauty in there though. I used the towel immediately as I was sweating profusely throughout the experience. Cheers guys, another great video
I just installed a 4.44 5 speed DCCD box in my 4 door Gc8! Paired it with a DCCDpro control box and its a completely different car, absolute blast to drive on and off road. May upgrade to a 6 speed later on to drop revs for highway driving, as 3500 in 5th at 110km/h is a bit extreme.
Just want so say thanks for Cheryl's box I am delighted with everything inside, Cheryl's box is so much bigger than I anticipated, Cheryl's box aside I love the show and I'm a big fan there isn't an episode I haven't seen. From Jason in the UK 👍👍🤙
This is the one upgrade I wish I had done with my 98 RSTi. I loved that car and enjoyed rallying it in Pennsylvania to Vermont in amateur events. Lots of fun for reasonable money
I did this 6-speed swap in my driveway a couple months ago. A lift would have been nice. I converted my rear axle CV joints in order to keep my WRX axles and hubs.
Thank you legends for the entertainment i am about to have to distract me from post mouth surgery pain. I look forward to seeing what you guys have been up to :)
Just finished a 6 speed swap on my 2014. You are right about that feeling in the back of you head, I was constantly worried I was going to grenade the transmission. I also did Driveshaft Shop axles, time for slicks all the way around.
As someone who lives in northwest Indiana I am both amazed and disgusted at how easy that Subaru came apart. Here we get this stuff called snow, it is cold and wet so the government puts salt o. The roads in the winter to prevent Ice. In other words my subaru is very firmly held together with industrial strength rust. It took me over 8 hours, 2 cans of penatrating oil, 1/4th a gallon of rust remover, a rotary cutting tool, large hammers, and a top of the line set of impact tools just to change the shifter bushing universal joint. 😀
This is a conversion I really should do on my GC8! It's just crazy expensive for the 6speed box here in Norway. You should do an episode where you change all the old bushings with Superpro bushings! And this car really need JDM taillights!
What a mongrel of a job ay! Can you imagine doing this here in Quebec with all the corrosion we have. LoL literally every bolt I saw you remove I could relate a fight from hell here... Can’t wait to see the outcome. MADD work folks!
I had a twin plate clutch in my Volvo 850R. Smooth as butter until it randomly blew up and took out my flywheel with it lol. Was great to daily drive with though. Floater plate chatter didn't bug me at all.
Congratulations Marty! It officially an STI now. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous. I don't really worry about my 5MT breaking because if it does I know what comes next. Perhaps I should start using my Cobb launch control just to expedite the process.
