A Two-State Solution is NOT the solution (So what is?)  

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As a Hungarian born in the territory lost to Romania after WW1... Yes, fair or not fair, this is how history works. You lose a war, your land might get taken. The Ottoman Empire lost WW1 and then the Arabs lost in 1948. Hungary also lost WW1 and got a far, FAR worse deal than the Arabs did. Now, imagine if we kept attacking our neighbours, decades after the national trauma. Imagine not moving on, but rather destroying our present and future. Hell, imagine if Romania suddenly decided that they grant Székelyföld (Szekler Land, a part of East Transylvania with almost 100% Hungarian population) autonomy, then the people there immediately turned around and voted in a terrorist government whose goal is to destroy Romania, and started a war. That would be the dumbest shit ever, right? Arabs or "Palestinians" are the worst losers and act like the sole vicstims of history when there have been much more severe cases. Even in their own neighbourhood, the Kurds were betrayed by everyone and still have no state, and the Armenians were also genocided and only have a small land as their country, surrounded by hostile nations.

The people of Gaza spent billions on weapons dug 750+ kilometres of tunnels they could’ve use that money to have a place more beautiful than Dubai. They could’ve had agriculture and tourism education the greatest prosperity those Muslims chose hatred. Imagine all those millions of dollars spent on weapons and tunnels all that concrete all that effort building a place more beautiful than Dubai. They could’ve had a Paradise but instead, Muslim hatred, for Jews, created their own Hell, and brought upon their own doom❤DALE.

I used to work as an English teacher in Morocco. I had 2 lovely students in their 20s who were learning English before joining their husbands in the USA. One day we were talking about famous people and I mentioned Hitler, in passing, as an example of a famous person. One of the young ladies smiled and said, "Teacher, we love Hitler!" I was so taken aback I asked her why. Still with a sweet smile (and fully expecting me to agree with her) she said, "Because Teacher he killed all the Jews." Took me a moment or 2 to continue the lesson as I just stood there blinking, speechless. Such casual, unthinking racism.... from two otherwise delightful people. So weird. But so normal for the Muslim Arab mindset.,

Gaza was under Egypt before 1967 but no protest because egypt is Muslim

I was a pro palestine all my life because I was getting my information from the Arabic muslim media about the issue and that Israel doesn't have any right to exist. However, in the last couple of months, I started to dig depper to know more about this issue and I stumbled upon your videos. First, I rejected your information and I did my own research. By the way, I was so interested in knowing the truth so I watched all of your videos and all of the videos from the other side, and I now can say I know the truth. Right now, I can officially say that I stand with Israel and I hope one day I will visit your country. Much love from a Syrian Christian 🇸🇾 ❤🇮🇱

I’m a Syrian ex muslim here. You are 100% correct

Odd how not a single Muslim or arab countrÿ has come to help the Palestinians In fact, ive never seen any demos in Muslim/Arab countries

"Land for peace" was a huge mistake. The stronger Israel acts, the more peaceful the region will become. Israel should not submit to any pressure from the outside.

Great video. It, however, does leave out the false Arab narrative that the Holy Land had a reasonably large population of Arabs prior to the first Zionist settlement (1882). In fact, many Western visitors to that region prior to 1882 describe a land that was desolate and deserted with practically no vegetation and very few inhabitants outside of the towns that were small and shabby. Most of the privately-held land was in the hands of a few extremely wealthy Arab owners that lived outside of that territory in cities like Cairo, Beirut and Damascus. They offered to the Jews the worst of those lands to buy at exorbitant prices. But the Jews ended up buying 90,000 acres and turned them into productive farmlands. This was something totally outside of the Arab mindset. (To date the Israelis have planted 250,000,000 trees.) Once the Arabs from neighboring countries saw the prosperity the Jews were created they began mass migrating into that region.

Sincere thanks to travelingisrael (apologies forgot your name) your videos on these matters have been very enlightening. I am from the UK, and from my own military service I could see on deployments how much the media lies first hand. Even revered institutions such as the BBC, they are so full of it (scat is I think the polite term.) For most of my forty odd years, I've kind of switched back and forth on the topic between Israel and Palestine, but I always asked myself, why can't they just get along and live together peacefully? Your videos, supported with corroborated facts and figures, has finally opened my eyes, and put that uncertainty to rest. I now stand firmly with Israel!

I was supportive of the 2-state-solution in my younger years. As time has passed, it has become more conclusive to me that the idea is a bad one the more this debate persists.

So glad the Mohsen quote is included. The next line after the one shown is even more revealing: he says that the moment after tgey have destroyed Israel, Pal will be absorbed into Jordan. So they didn't even want it as a state! This is not about love of life for their people. It is about lust for death of Jews. And since their leader emphasized on an interview right after Oct. 7 that they will keep doing such attacks "again and again" those insisting on "peace! no war" are barking up the wrong tree when they refuse to accept that this hate is there and unrelenting no matter what Israel does.

didn't care so much about the conflict. Didn't know much about arabs in palestine,wasn't a big fan of israeli politics etc...until I faced the 7th of 10,being in Israel and stayed there for 6 months longer.....That changed my mind a lot. Ave Israel!No mercy for HAMAS!

I'm glad I came across your channel. It has informed me about the current conflict and helped me look at things from an Israeli point of view. It has changed a lot of my views over the last few months

All level headed people will appreciate the stand taken by you💯

This channel shows me the power for good of the internet. I grew up in a St. Louis neighborhood with a substantial Jewish population and never heard of this history. Thanks for sharing.

THANK YOU ♥️🇫🇮♥️♥️🇮🇱 for your PRECIOUS Work👑♥️👍

I am a brown Sri Lankan Who has Catholic mother, Buddhist relatives, Hindu father and Hindu relatives, Atheist relatives and they all support the existence of Israel and no Palestine.

Thank you. It is so alarming to me how blind and deaf the usually open minded and intelligent among my friends are to these truths .

Beautifully articulated and explained

Excellent, very clear. It's something I can send to the people in our fellowship. Todah !!

Oren, thank you for your clear and concise educational videos. I never fail to learn something new.

Oren, your work is so important. Please keep posting videos like these - maybe one day everyone can see and understand your content. Thank you for your clarity. Sending support for Isreal from the USA

Hey Oren, you speak the historical truth to your audience about the motivations of Muslims, the Arab nations, and Jews in Israel 🇮🇱 and throughout the Middle East. I lived on Kibbutz Ayelet HaShachar and taught English at Hula Valley Regional HS. I share Golda Meir’s belief that when Palestinian, Arab, and Muslim children learn to live peacefully with their Jewish neighbors, there might be a final reconciliation but that day is far, far away.

As usual, your knowledge of history is A1.

I'm an American, born in 1978. I witnessed so many of these events as they transpired and passed into history, on the news, safe in my home. And further, as a child in school, from learning history, global affairs etc., I never once thought there should ever be a two-state solution. Am Yisrael Chai!

Two-State Solution is a code word for 'lets give fuel for the conflict'. The smart and not so good people who support this "solution" actually know this.

“The way you act inside your house is the same way you act outside of it.” Spot on!

Well stated, “Wishful thinking is dangerous.” As a teenager 50 years ago, I tried to believe in a two-state solution. Since then, I believe those advocating for a two-state solution are either uneducated/naïve (like I was) or antisemitic. Keep educating the uneducated and exposing the antisemites.

once again an example of sound and well-presented information. many thanks

Spot on Oren - you’re doing a great job - stay strong, we stand by you ! ❤

My mother, who is always right about anything, thought that it was a good video. Smart guy and I can't argue against that.

Thanks!

Me and my family were 100 percent behind my Aunt who was the Private Secretary and Personal Assistant to Dr Evatt in order to keep Dr Evatt on track for the League of Nations and its future named organization U.N. to be sure that his casting vote was indeed to ensure that Israel would be Israel the home of the Jewish Peoples. What you have said is EXCELLENT and TRUTHFUL...............Thank you.

My husband's family came to the Tel-Aviv area in 1912 from Aden Yemen on camels. They arrived to sand dunes and empty land and slowly started to build their lives in Israel, like many other Jews from Arabic countries. Oren often illustrates these histories very clearly and with an academic knowledge of how modern day Israel evolved. This is important background that often falls on deaf ears. People feel emboldened to openly hate Israelis and Jews in general. They would prefer an image of a meek impoverished little grandmother begging for a scrap of bread as the Jew they will accept. Maybe. What they hate are strong highly creative intelligent people who will fight to the death to protect their land and people. The haters would admire those traits and qualities in any other nation...just not Israel.

I am an American, Christian, wife, mother, grandmother and auntie. I stumbled across your videos a couple of days ago and have watched every single one. I appreciate your open mindedness, your attention to detail and all of the documentation you provide to back up your thoughts. I have learned so much and am hungry for more as this mind virus has infected our youth on college campuses here in the US. This is an embarrassment. Their ignorance seems to know no bounds. 🇺🇸🇨🇱🇮🇱🙏🏻🤎 As for me and my house, we stand with our God, the facts and Israel 🇮🇱 🙏🏻 🙌 👏🏻

The quote from Hajj Amin al-Husseini that you displayed on screen at 15:20 perfectly sums up the Islamic Arab position from his time to our time.

Hello Oren. Your videos have been very helpful to me in gaining a grasp of the historical dimensions of this conflict. As reference points, they sent me in the direction of other sources, documentaries, interviews and autobiographies in order to go deeper. Because my impulse was to side with Israel when so many appeared to be ignoring or denying their pain from Oct 7th, it helped greatly to learn the brutal intentions of Hamas and how this can't be dissociated from the spread (even appeal) of radical Islam in the West. But as the months have passed and the civilian casualties steadily increased in Gaza, I found myself having to time and again react in anger -- get out of the way, or they had it coming -- basically any form of squashing the empathy. After all, hadn't ALL the pro-Palestine protesters immediately suspended empathy towards the slaughtered/kidnapped of Oct 7th, or their families? And won't most of them shout now, "There's no comparison, just look at the numbers on each side!".... But here's the thing. That suspension of empathy? It's directly comparable no matter the numbers. It's the thing that gives you the impetus to strike the retaliatory blow. It's the thing that slowly grows from a "necessity" (in the face of immediate threat) to a comfortable habit long afterwards. And then into an ugly black festering unknown thing within you. This week (as of Feb 12 2024), we are at a crossroads. One could say that more correctly Israel is at a crossroads, but if Israel is then we all are. Why this week? Because of Rafah. Because of the fact that now all those 1.5 million civilians are now concentrated down in the southernmost portion of the Gaza strip, or rather what's left of them. Their options of "getting out of the way" are extremely limited at best. But what's different? Isn't it still vital that Hamas be destroyed? Isn't Hamas still responsible for the deaths by using civilians and civilian infrastructure as human shields and command centers? Let's say for argument that's all still true. So the IDF has no recourse but to double down and hit Rafah hard. Finish the job... Except that's not their only recourse is it? Netanyahu claims he's directed the armed forces to draw up a plan for evacuation of the the civilians. But the very next day the first bombings began amid a hostage rescue operation. I mean, look my point is that there is a very narrow time window here for any sort of bona fide effort on the part of the IDF to provide protection for even a portion of the civilians. You can debate there are no Gazan civilians, they are all part of Hamas; but that sounds a lot like "There are no innocents" prior to a suicide bombing. They _are_ civilians, if only to the extent they are unarmed and desperately trying to stay alive. What their intentions are for the future is on them. But what Israel's intentions are for the here & now -- that's on Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu indicated there may be some nebulous "areas in the north" that they could "clear" for the civilians to evacuate to. Ah, no. That's a definite death trap going back up into the combat zones. Tunnels below, no way to secure the entire perimeter, no way to effectively provide any rations, water or medicines without them getting to Hamas, which means they won't get any. What am I missing? Look where Rafa is! You're the tour-guide guy. You must have a pretty good idea of the layout of that southern section. For someone far away like me who can only rely on images from Google maps, and logic, I see a huge area right along the southeast border of the Gaza strip, just north of the Kerem Shalom check-point. It even has lots of field areas, no buildings, perfect for a temporary tent city refuge. The border wall would secure nearly 1/2 the perimeter while Kerem Shalom which Israel controls, could provide access for food, water and medicines, which _finally_ could be offered without fear of it falling into the hands of Hamas fighters. It would take some resources away from the immediate military objective, yes. But it would give validity, or at least honor, to the military objective. Because if the _real_ objective is to wipe these people off the map and then rebuilt Jewish settlements on top of their ashes, then no amount of historical analysis is going to save Israel from complete condemnation by both its enemies and its former allies. (I'm thinking of Eqypt right now). And that will endanger everybody, not just Israel. I honestly think that, if 2 days from now we are looking at a full scale mobilization against Hamas in Rafah, in the absence of any concrete plan for the civilians, then it's game over. Sure it will play itself out, but the chance to do it differently is going to disappear within days at most. If you think my idea of the southeast corner as a temporary haven is flawed, please tell me why.

Sober, honest and informed. Clarifying what "the West" gets wrong.

Unfortunately, I completely agree with your point of view. The "Palestinian" issue has been a burden carried by Israel for the last 70 years and used without scruples by the antisemites and left movements in the World. Getting worse every decade, more and more... The courage to recognize this reality is the first step towards some solution that will bring peace and normality to the region.

How reasonable you are, conveying sensible reason. You're a leader at conveying facts and most valuable without your being shaken or stirred.

This is a very educational video with excellent references for validation. Thanks Oren. An Israeli girl visiting here in the US says the majority of Jewish people in Israel are secular and not religious at all. Conservative Jews elected Netanyahu as prime minister and because of their violent nature keep Israel in a constant state of war. Liberal Jews are secular too, and the ones who believe Palestinians should have equal rights and a greater measure of self-determination. Fanatical Jews are a smaller group of settlers in the West Bank, are unpopular and want to push the Palestinians out of their God given land. Finally, she says the crazy religious Jews are the smallest group, also unpopular with many, don't serve in the military and contribute little to the state of Israel. As for me, I live in the largest Zionist community in the world, the Christian "Bible belt" here in the US southern states. There are four times as many Zionists here than in Israel.

Thank you for enlightening people with the TRUTH. The TRUTH will eventually set people FREE 💯🙏✌️

זה כלכך כיף וכלכך חשוב לראות אותך עושה הסברה אמיתית, יסודית, עקבית ומתמדת. בלי רעש, בלי שיווק כוזב, רק ניתוח של הסוגיה והגשה שלה בצורה בהירה נהירה וכנה. מרגש לראות שזה קיים. תודה

You are 100% right. They can’t live in peace even with each other.

clarity at last

I'm so glad I found this channel. Every video I watch adds more knowledge to me about the truth about this situation and helps me see the big picture. Thanks for making these videos!

I really don't understand why almost all Western politicians cling to this two-state solution. At the moment, they make it look as if only Israel has stood in the way, even though the Arabs never wanted it. Thank you for your great channel!

An excellent explanation, Oren. Here's one Irishman who finds your arguments very convincing. Keep up the good work!

Thank you

You put the case very eloquently. I'm not ignorant - I was a liaison for the Israeli government to the PA in the Oslo years and met with many Palestinian leaders. I have been a liberal supporter of the 2-states solution, or a federal solution. But I agree with you that I don't see this happening in the near future for exactly the reasons you describe. For me this was very discouraging but we must do the best we can do. Remembering that for the Arabs, "from the River to the Sea" means the elimination of our country Israel - something the West doesn't seem to grasp even now. And I agree that the Arabs have always been up front and honest about that goal, but somehow people don't hear it.

I used to be, Oct 7th changed that. I decided I needed more information. Thanks Oren for being a great source

another great video, thanks for making them.

"The way people act inside their home is the way they act outside of it..." - That sums it up very nicely!

Very well said. Their culture and religion make this such an impossible fight to end peacefully. It's hard to see an end even with fighting. People in the West just do not understand how the arabs think. They have very different ideas than us. I hope isreal can one day find peace ✌️

Oh well, perhaps after the war, they will realize that it's not worth fighting for anymore. "We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they learn to love their children more than they hate us." - Golda Meir, former Israeli PM edit: Im Israeli : D

Its so sad! Thank you for explaining this over and over!

Thank you. How can so many be so blind to what is right before their eyes?

You hit the nail right on the spot! The amricans think they can just force democracy by election, withoutn the education and mindset needed.

We in India know that giving them a state only makes things far worse. Just ask the (non-Islamic) neighbours of Pakistan.

חזק ואמץ עם ישראל חי

thank you!

Glad I'm sponsoring your channel. Money well spent. :)

It’s very difficult for rational people to comprehend this conflict is not territorial but rooted in Islamic principals

I would never have expected this but over and over, you of all people explain those twisted and charges issues in a clear and comprehensible way. Thank you again.

Thank you for another very informative video. A key thing people in the West either forget or fail to take seriously is the Hamas pledge to obliterate all Jews. People quote “from the river to the sea” because it sounds catchy with no idea what is meant by it. If even a few of the misguided people see your videos and rethink what cause they are supporting, it will help reduce support for Hamas in the West.

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There are already two states. Israel and Jordan. What people are talking about is actually a three state solution.

Continually trying to do the same thing, expecting different results, is the definition of insanity.....

הסבר מתומצת, בהיר, מדוייק ומאוזן. הגיע הזמן שתעזור להפיק סרט/ סדרה על ישראל והקונפליקט המתמשך. משהו בסיגנון נטפליקס❤

Yet another brilliant analysis! Many thanks for sharing your knowledge and understanding❤

Totally Agree! Well spoken!

In most western society with critical thinkers like the great Thomas Sowell, a prominent economist and social theorist, will say that this entire issue is based on Culture and not Race and they are right, the issue is with the Arab and Palestinians - the "culture" that prevent them to going forwad but their mentality and culture keep them back in time..

A two state solution is quite a joke when you consider settlements in West Bank.

Hey Oren and @MrZimmmy Thank you for this amazing historical overview. You are absoutly right about why we do not yet have peace and how carful Jews have to be in this conflict. But I think you overlooked a very important fact that could entirely change the outlook for our future. I am refering to the fact that 2 miliion palestinians are living relatively peacfully in Israel today. (That is - 1 in every 5 Israeli citizens is Palestinian). And despite the fact that that politicians in power have created a huge set back in terms of racism and enequlity towards out palestinian citizens. Still for 75 years- as equality and their opportunity to fourish grew - so did the peice between us. You can see this in our mixed mediclal teams, farmacys, planning departmnets, and so on. In other words Golda Meir’s vision of Palestinian, Arab, and Muslim children learning and living peacefully with their Jewish neighbors - has infact become a reality! So much so that you didn't even think of mentioning it in your video :) So I urge you - and anyone reading this - Just take a few minutes to look for some of the amazing stories we have heard sincre Oct 7th about Beduins who risked their lives to rescue Jews, about Muslims who volenteered to help refugies or to cook for soldiers. Look at this huge ray of Hope and tell me what are the conditions that created this miracle and what do we need to do so it will grow and change our regeon into the paradice it aut to be. Our history tells us different stories and teaches us many lessons. Lessons of war and violence and lessons of peace, cooperation and hope. I challenge you to make your next movie about what we can learn from the lessons of peace - and what we can do to make it grow. P.S. - Yes there is way too much violence built in to parts of the the muslim world. We need to be carful of it. But: a) religions do change - just as the jewish relgion did. thought if you follow the bible you learn that it was quite brutal in the past -calling for stoning disobediant women to death, and other forms of violence that are unheared of today - as we evleved into a religion that cherishes life. b) don't foget that just 80 years ago Jews were brutaly whiped out by Christians - not Muslims....

Oren, this is a fantastic video. Please, please keep them coming!

Thanks for another great vid Oren.👍 What is Gaza? Isn't it already a state? As you showed us, its in black and white what they want to do, what they did on 7th October 2023, and what they said they'll do again and again. Why and How Isn't the world seeing and hearing this? Until the Israeli hostages are released, and hamas unconditionally surrender, the IDF Has to continue. 🇮🇱🕎✡️☕️🍪

Great video, like your others. Thumbs up and subscribed.

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Great video. Fair and informative. Sadly, those who don't want to accept the truth won't.

Pitty not everyone will listen I am sick of the pro Palestine if they want Palestine to be free then they need to accept the right of the Jewish people and live next to them

You hit the nail right on the head! Keep up the good work!🎉

Toda raba, bro, for the informative clip !

When the Palestinians keep rejecting the two state solutions there's nothing you can do. They need good leaders not terrorists leaders 😢😢

The best argument was not even mentioned: some 18 years ago Gaza was let into independance from Isreal. A palestinian state. See what they made of that. Enough said,

100% Factually True - no disputes!

Trying to explain any of this to a “Palestinian,” is like trying to explain quantum physics to a three-year-old child.

Insanity is when you do the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result! Therefore 2 state solution is insanity!

Everything you said makes sense and is well researched. Thank you for your videos, I love them.

if only others understood what you are saying the way I understand what you are saying!!... thank-you oren for all your diligence helping those in need of factual historical information n quite honestly then we have whom I call 'the proofers' giving me a reason to take a valuim.... I'm farklempt n have a major headache nothing compared to the hostages waiting to come home from this nightmare a real living-nightmare!!... 2two ex-hostages now brought home!! am yisrael chai ❤️🇮🇱❤️

Up till now I also thought a 2 states solution is only fair to all involved. Since October 7 I have changed my mind completely.

God bless you Oren! You explain history so well for those of us foreigners who want to understad these conflicts better! Keep up the good work!

Been sharing your Intelligent Important work plenty. Thank you for what you do

"The way you act inside your house is the same way you act outside of it" ... Thanks for starting my day off with a laugh 😂

But a Palestinian state was created, called Jordan, the only arab country with a Hebrew name.

You’re brutally honest and I love your videos

Great video. Clear, honest and precise. Thanks for the honest information.🚒🇺🇸

An hard evidence is the Temple Mount where King Solomon Temple was built by the Jews in Jerusalem, Then centuries later the Dome of Rock was built on top of Temple Mount which proves that the Jews were there first long before that Arabs. Archaeology never lies

Always a pleasure to be able to learn so much from you.