A Vegan's Encounter with Pro-Israel Protestors 

everyone needs to see Pignorant 🙏🐷

David, it’s the height of ignorance to try to equate human lives with pigs who are food It is the ultimate of inhumanity on your part to even suggest it. What little respect , and it’s little, is dwindling

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Eating a vegetarian diet doesn't entail having concern or compassion for animals at all.

"Giving the land rest every 7 years" doesn't entail having ethical concern or compassion for sentient beings whose home is that land. If it did, there'd be a ritual advocated for in the Jewish doctrine to honor the land for the sake of the sentient beings every day......but there isn't.

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i agree... i think human supremacy over other species is the root of all other forms of supremacy ..humans learn cruelty and indifference from our ruthless treatment of the children of other species❤

I am vegan and Israeli. I think about the animals all the time along with the genocide in Palestine. May we all live in peace.

I was just about to comment what an interesting conversation 🤔

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That's great

Good!

And your thoughts about what was discussed in the video?

The phrase is antisemetic and nonsensical. lsraeI never took any land. Their religion outdates the word PaIestine.

And Americans need to give their land back to Native Americans? And soon Muslim Europeans need to give their land back to Native Europeans? Nobody in this conflict today was even born in 1948. At most they were a child. Why should a 25 year old Israeli give up their family house to some random Gazan that was born and raised in Gaza and never spent any time in Israel?

@@davidramms You put "Pro-Israel protestors" in the title. So don't be surprised when people purely comment on something most people generally care more about than veganism, which is the conflict in Israel-Gaza. Now, maybe you personally care more about veganism than this conflict, but if you are sincere you can acknowledge most people don't feel the same way. So this really shouldn't be a surprise.

not to the animals, they're not (if you look into it) ✌✡

​@@Osc1llateW1ldlylook into what?

Like, always, under any condition?

Makes sense as none of the protesters are being aggressive

@homie3461 damn

Israel has also broken the most UN resolutions to date.

They are still negotiating platforms. I wish it could have been decided before but there is a lot of red tape, I guess.

I know. I can't watch at the cinema because I'm profoundly Deaf so need subtitles.

And do you support your government

I read a few years back that the Isreali army are the most vegan army in the world. It is great to see veganism popular in other countries.🌱✊

@@patbash5718 Whether someone supports their government or not means absolutely nothing... to the government.

@@harveyplantharvester1502 israeli is an apartheid state and committed genocide

@@michaelhawkins5855 how can you be vegan and mass murder of Palestine people, sorry that not a vegan it has to be more

Yet quite ironic. I am a bit unsure at what they are trying to achieve, as there have been several instances at Israel being able to receive back all of their hostages, and what has been asked in exchange is a complete Ceasefire in Gaza, and the return of children and women that Israelis have kidnapped, of which are being held in Gaza. There are thousands of children in administrative detention, children put in military court, some thrown in detention without trial.. This figure is over 15,000 people. You have now every country that has abstained / called for a ceasefire, even being demanded by the UN. Israel has yet to do so. If they were to, they would have gotten their hostages back. My point being, what is the goal of these protestors? These hostages, whilst I’m not agreeing with it, are taken as a form of protest in regards to the oppression that Palestinians face, the thousands of Palestinian hostages, the stealing of land, the ethnic cleansing, the list goes on. And the ironic part being, those leaving israel after being held hostage, come out scarred for life. Those that have been returned from Gaza, have shook hands with their kidnappers, and even complimented them. Say what you may, it is the first time I hear such a thing. It tells a lot.

​@@donpeters2029, 100% this

Animals are going to suffer either way. You can say less suffering but still there will be animal suffering.

@@MustardSkaven Of course, it's an unfortunate truth that there will probably always be some form of suffering. The point is to eradicate as much suffering as we possibly can. Less is surely better and preferable to more.

Thank you mate! ✊🏻

Yes agreed. I'm off Joey Carbstrong. One reason why I liked him, was because he never talked politics. Like never. He never brought up BLM, or chanted "defund the police", or anything like that. When he finally did, he threw Jews under the bus.

@@elizabethelias1005 He threw Zionists under the bus, Zionism and Judaism aren't the same.

👍👍""Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.""

Oh man, i didn't knew that about joey. Just lost respect for him

@@LaneyEye101 I still support the veganism cause he's putting the work into, but nothing more after he posted stuff that clearly shows he's affected by Hamas propaganda. Some of the stuff he said are still up on his IG\YT community tab I think, but did not check.

Hi, it doesn't matter if they're equal to humans, it matters if they're worthy enough not to be killed for food.

Humans are animals

It's not about sameness, it's about their capacity for suffering.

They are here with us, NOT for us! They deserve to live their life too, in FREEDOM!

They are here because of us. If everyone was vegan, then there wouldn't be any animals.

There is no occupation. If you want to talk about an occupation let's do it. Tell the Arabs to leave North Africa. Make them give it back to the original indigenous people of all of the North African countries. There are 25 Arabic speaking countries. Ask yourself how did that happen? They are called Arabs, which means they are indegenous to the Arabian Peninsula. Jews come from Judea. There is no archeological evidence for Arabs originating in the Levant. Even the word Palestine is a Latin word. You know, the language of those white Roman European colonizers? Gaza comes from the Hebrew azza. There's never been a sovereign Arab Muslim nation called Palestine. Even their first official leader, Yaser Arafat, was born in Egypt. The Arabs in the region didn't start to identify as Palestinian until 1964. FYI, the letter P does not exist in Arabic. They say Falestine or Balestine. Not one single Arab nation is willing to help their brothers in Gaza. Why? Egypt has reinforced their border with Gaza. Oh, did you forget Egypt also borders Gaza? There are over 2 million Arabs who live in Israel with equal rights. They participate in all aspects of Israeli society. They are cops, doctors, teachers, judges, and more. The Palis who live in other Arab nations as refugees do not have equal rights and opportunities. They are barred from certain professions and owning property. Look it up. The mayor in Ramallah I think it is, pays Arabs to shoot and kill stray dogs and cats. How is that vegan? Israel is on the cutting edge of science/medicine and technology. Including veganism and sustainability. But go ahead, side with the primitive, backwards and oppressive t3rrorists.

Shhhh We can pretend you are first. 🫶🏻

@@AxelBertilDahlstrom sharing is caring ✊

Yep

Unfair youtube spam filter. Happens to us all.

And your thoughts about what was discussed in the video?

Most pro palis dont have any. They just see anything about israel, dont bother even listening and just bark about freedom in a conflict they know nothing about. As an israeli who loves having these difficult conversations and is eager to listen to the other side, its very frusturating. ​@@davidramms

@@זהבההלברשטטWhat an ignorant comment? You just branched the entirety of a people’s under your narrative? And then try to inform others to share the same opinion of hatred towards Palestinians?

​@@davidramms, well: 1. I am 100% with what the commentator says, free Palestinians from the genocide they are facing, the oppression, etc. 2. If any of these support veganism, then surely they would also support a full ceasefire and end to the genocide of Palestinians, the oppression, etc. Because veganism is about not harming animals and letting them live their lives. Surely veganism being about morals would extend to people too, unless of course morals are not extended to humans in such situations. For me, my morals cover all animals and people to be free from suffering, cruelty, and being killed.

​@@זהבההלברשטט🙄 all I've ever seen from most pro-isreal types is abuse, hate, ignorance, and violence/incitement, and so so many lies that are so easily debunked. Isreal is commiting a genocide, has murdered/executed over 40,000 Palestinian men, women, and kids, and that's the ones we know of. Isreal/IOF has commited countless war crimes. Isreal has kidnapped/taken hostage 1000s of Palestinians (admin detention, aka hostage) and tortured so so many (another war crime). Isreal can no longer hide its war crimes, genocide, oppression, rascist supremacy, etc. anymore, beyond the corrupt establishment, more and more are seeing isreal for what it is, evil. Hell, any jn isreal who call out isreal and demand a ceasefire are attacked by isreal.

SUP!

The people I spoke to showed empathy for animals, it’s a shame you can’t do the same

Supremacist: a person who believes that a particular group, especially one determined by race, religion, or sex, is superior and should therefore dominate society. Speciesist: A person that considers animals-who have their own desires, needs, and complex lives-as means to human ends. This supremacist line of “reasoning” is used to defend treating other living, feeling beings as property, objects, or even ingredients.

@homie3461 "They grieve and cry out for days just the same as a human would." No they don't. They don't lament with family members and discuss how to move forward. They don't imagine the lost future of their child going to school, finding love, getting married, etc. When you cut the leg off an ant, I'm sure it goes "Damn it, that smarts, I wish that didn't happen" in some capacity. But to say "the same way a human does" is incorrect.

Me too 🇮🇱

So you support the mass murder of human

So you support the mass murder of humans

You support the state Israel and with that its actions?

Are you really vegan then? You’re supporting the genocïde of the Palestinians.

Have done, upcoming video

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There are vegans that are pro human and animal rights people, Palestinians are human. I'm a anarcho vegan so I don't think there should be any State and people should keep the georgraphic regions name, visit eachother and experience eachothers culture etc without the need for passports, governmets...

Prejudice: When someone has a belief (usually negative) about a person or group based on a stereotype.

You’ll have to explain what exactly you don’t agree with, being offended doesn’t make what I said wrong

How did you equate him comparing pigs to people. He compared the "gas chambers" used to kill jews and the "gas chamber" used to kill pigs.

Why? Suffering is suffering. I personally do not equate humans and other animals, but it shouldnt be difficult to understand that the suffering of innocent animals, especially when it is completely unneccesary like in animal agriculture, is morally evil.

What a jumbled mess of words that was.

@@Priority76 apparently Vegans lack the critical thought process due to their diet, your comment demonstrated that😆

Having a conversation is the same as shoving meat in people’s faces? 🤔 You’re letting your feelings get the better of you, calm down and think rationally

Did this comment make sense in your own head?

@cazzawazzadingdong5139 So how did @davidramms reply to my question? He obviously understood it🙄

Yet you watched it😅

Would you be willing to explain how exactly it entertains you?

@@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy well when I eat , the tv is on . So I put this on for entertainment just to see the vegan brainwash . Pure comedy

@@mathewwebb4677 , You didn't explain much. Is it because you can't explain the funniness factor without sounding indecent?

@@mathewwebb4677 , I suppose the irony of your using the word “brainwash” is lost on you... Overwhelming majority of carnists had been exposed to countless hours of carnist propaganda and conditioning in the form of children’s cartoons and TV commercials sugar-coating meat, dairy and eggs before they learned to fluently speak, thus think critically.

@@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy brainwash ^

Can you advise who decided 'animals are meant to be eaten'? I don't think any human has the right to decide that one sentient organism exists specifically for the consumption by the human. How is that fair? Put yourself in the shoes of the non-human animal and you tell me how you'd like to be treated. And don't give me that 'animals are unintelligent and don't know what's happening to them' garbage, you've seen animals experiencing joy, love, pain, and suffering.

@@duck2477 who thinks it’s logical to compare animals to humans? It’s idiotic

@ASDvegatheist Because they’re great.

As Tony the tiger said, they’re great

@ASDvegatheist also with that username, no wonder.

Yes.

Ya I didn't think comparing the attempted exterminations of an entire race of people was comparable to bad slaughter practices. I get trying to be thought provoking, but it's about as tactful as the guy shoving meat in their faces.

@bryn3652 Actually it's WORSE what happens to pigs. What gas chambers for humans do you know that are still in use?

@@TheShockedboy "Bad slaughter practices"? Why don't you watch Pignorant then tell me about being "tactful." Those pigs scream and rip their hooves off trying to get out of the gas chamber that suffocates and burns them from the inside. Highly sentient creatures, smarter than a lot of humans around nowadays.

We know he is. Do you have a problem with that? “In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they’re the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought.[…] The smugness with which man could do with other species as he pleased exemplified the most extreme racist theories, the principle that might is right.” - Isaac Bashevis Singer (a Holocaust survivor and vegetarian)