A government proposal sparks racial tensions between white and black South Africans, suggesting the government should seize land from white owners, without payment.
Here in India I can't buy tribal land. It's a law so that land be with the original people. And I am very happy with this law coz affulent people would have bought all the land and put honest gullible tribals as labourers on their own land
@@TheAbsol7448 you can defend and deflect all you want but the truth is the truth the 1913 law stripped the Africans from what was rightfully theirs. That land do not belong to them it belongs to the people who was wrongfully stripped of their land they didnt sell anything to them.
@@DeathB4Dishonor2300 They were born and raised in South Africa, like how every white was born and raised in America. South Africa was colonized around the same time America was. If you're gonna bitch about whites in South America, you might as well bitch about ever other race in every other country. We're all humans, and likely originated from Africa, so you might as well dump every human on the planet over there while you're at it. They are legal citizens, and bought their farm lands. Forcing them away would be a very wrong thing to do.
That was a false equivalency. From a generational perspective the baby boomers, GenXers, Millinials have a very different perspective and they are able to call out the sins Of the past and the sins of today. As they should.
Im from a small town in kwazulu-natal called bergville...roughly 80-90% of the population is black but 80-90% of the land is owned by the white minority. ..i remember growing up herding my grandfather's cattle i'd always get into trouble with the cattle running off into a neighbouring white mans farm just to graze.To think i used to believe we were well off because my grandfather was a police officer and grandmother a nurse and had a significant amount of land makes me feel like I was ignorant...believe me when i say SA has a long way to go. This whole "freedom" idea is an illusion. We are still economically oppressed
I've recently noticed that there are big companies being formed and being named using native African languages.Some to the extent of even having black people run the companies just to create this idea of "its possible black child " nonsense when theres always a white man pulling the strings in the background
We been too kind with these people, its still the legacy of apartheid still kicking strong and the beneficiary are praizing the racist regime, thats why we muST vote for the EFF to finally own our country
@@sikholamla8299 HAHA you are such low iq hahaha Black people are getting raped and murdered by the truck load every day by other black people but your biggest problem is white people. LOL you are a real clown.
I love how ABC tries to downplay this situation. Why is it so hard to just admit that white people are genuinely being targeted and attacked for the color of their skin.
Winston Edgoose well 3 wrongs don’t make it right either so turn the other cheek and submit stupid. Whites love to say that shit when they’re the aggressor.
Some of these people have been on this land for 300-400 years .. they need to help the poor and stop labeling races it just increases tension and violence
If that's the case, then all the brothas in detroit better get the fuck out because the native americans want their land back so they can farm. ,......Gimme a fucking break!
@maplaneterouge Nope. They lost to the white man. The history of the world is all about the strong conquering the weak. Being there first doesn't mean a thing. This is like saying Egypt belongs to the Copts and Nubians, not the Arabs who came in and conquered.
@@americanmade-1you’re from Europe you f*cking nut brain. Go back to Rome. Go fix the damn colosseum. America belongs to the Black men and women whose ancestors built it. Go back and fix funky ass Europe.
Don’t think u have to be well educated to see whose right and whose wrong get off those people land you’ve already robbed, and profited off their land what do you expect? I don’t care how long your family lived there this is common sense God Bless those Africans fighting for their land and freedom from outsiders
Apparently you do have to be educated. Firstly, most blacks in South Africa are immigrants, who moved there because of the wealth and civilisation white Europeans built. Before white Europeans arrived, there was nothing but warring tribes living in mud huts. White Europeans built EVERYTHING. They did what every other tribe was doing, just far better. Blacks, even if oppressed, benefited from the vast advancements, the infrastructure, the wealth, the farming, the everything. Blacks have been in power for 30 years now, blacks have had equality, equal access to education, equal access to everything. And they've accomplished less than nothing. The government can't even keep the power on. This despite constant support from the west, who view South Africa as a beacon of racial progress and harmony. Like the rest of the world, black violence and homicide rate are through the roof (against every race, but mostly other blacks), their educational attainment is atrocious, their poverty rates sky high. The average IQ in Africa is around 73. These are sad facts. If you kicked white farmers off their lands and gave them to blacks, they'd cease to function. This is what happened in Zimbabwe. The country would starve. The country would return to what it was before European colonisation, and to what most of Africa is. A violent, impoverished, primitive hellhole.
First of all, white supremacists lean to the left, not the right. The Alt-right is just another manifestation of the left. The KKK was created by the Democrat party, made up by people from the Democrat party, and it's been run by the Democrats from the beginning. The far left are Communists, to the right of communists but still on the left are fascists and NAZIs. One other thing: I've never heard the ANC take responsibility for anything. I've never heard blacks in South Africa take personal responsibility for their part in any of this at all. "They took....away from us." Well, geez! Just stand there like the sheeple you are and allow others to walk all over you. Sorry, not sorry. You lie down with communists, you will get taken advantage of.
Out of all of the countries where there are so many newsworthy stories, the one country that ever makes the news is South Africa or Nigeria, and the only people it talks about mainly in South Africa are the white people... I'm not trying to diminish what is going on in South Africa, but if you want to make stories about Africa, try to talk about what happens in more than the mainstream countries, and talk about more than the things that effect white people the most as there is a lot to talk about concerning everyone else.
Yes, the violence is spiking there. I forget the exact number, but in 2017 there was something like 20 gun deaths per day. It has since increased. Most are young men.
Stian Weyers wow that training area looks pretty well financed and those guns look pretty expensive some genocide damn these ppl must be eating bullets no wonder they looks so well fed and well trained lmao stfu stupid
kibara no, many evil is happening to black people but the news is not being spread the same way but may the Lord be with you and bless you in the mighty name of Jesus Amen!
@KDubs.02cnt Happened in Rhodesia very similarly, and there were a whole lot of African other countries sold out by their leaders. If this happens it will be a disaster for everyone.
Now they know how it feels to have something taken from you. Your ancestors stole that land and they know it. Sins of the Mother and Father fall on the child. No matter how old you are. Facts
That's incorrect though, they did not steal the land, they BOUGHT UNOCCUPIED land, if anyone stole land, it's the people in power, their ancestors were part of a tribe that stole land from the tribe that was living there before them. You're excusing killing people based on skin colour and the crime of their ancestors, if you're dad killed someone and then killed himself, should you be punished instead? By your logic, you SHOULD. Stop being a hypocrite.
Every piece of land on the six settled continents has been conquered and stolen throughout history. The legal rights of innocent individuals today, black AND white, matter more than repeating the mistakes of the past.
@@ccarter509 You should probably look into the history of South Africa b4 speaking on it.If you had youd realize the bantus who came down from the north did most of the killing of the khoi san.
Property is not a right under any internatinal law. The South African state, acting as the will of the South African people, has the absolute and unlimited right to seize any property within its borders and redistribute it in any way desired by the democratic will of the the population. There is no requirement or right for the previous landowners to be compensated. You may find such a right in the US Constitution, but the US Constitution has no authority in other countries and is absolutely meaningless outside the borders of the US.
Is that why the government holds 80% of the land then? Blacks in Africa don't want property rights they want 99 year leases where noone owns land genuis
No one owns the land anywhere...we are all just temporary visitors who just get a small chance to enjoy the land while were here....stop fighting about stupid shit like your culture and history...that's what they tell us southerners in america....your culture means NOTHING...white has just as much right to that land as black...period
What did they expect? They were the last major nation to stop segregation. Of corse they are angry, and violent. I wish they didn’t fight fire with fire, but it was pretty much guaranteed. Hopefully the learn more things, and grow together. Best of wishes South Africa, watching your t20 match right now in the United States.
Papa 86 PJ Media isn’t tooo bad. There’s a few independent journalists out there like Lauren southern & Stephan Moleneux who are pretty good since mainstream media blocks them a lot you know they’re on to something. 😆
How can you say that? I guess, what happened in Zimbabwe is “hogwash” too! When the stakes are so high, as they are in SA ,don’t act like you know wtf you’re talking about when OBVIOUSLY YOU DON’T. I have family there & know for a fact whites are being slaughtered. How dare you!
Terence Johnson things say other wise: every race has had their hand in chaos. Hopefully we move past that soon, as this has been the longest period in humanity where there isn’t massive wars. Humanity is finally understanding the wrongs of violence. With that mindset though, you hold us back.
I am a white South African, at 7:57 the two farmers that are shown putting a black man in a coffin does not have any context, let me give it the correct context; the black man was caught by the farmers stealing copper from the farm he was on, so to teach him a lesson and scare him into not doing it again they said and did what they did, they never hurt him. The data that shows that whites are being killed in large scale is there, compare the amount of whites getting killed to blacks is a small number but compare the totals and there is a major difference. There are already laws here that keep whites from getting jobs like BEE (black economic empowerment) it is a racist law that basically mean that because you are white you can not get a job.There is a cap on the amount of white people a business can have but no cap on the amount of black people a business can have. ABC News is like CNN, they have an addenda of their own and thus this information is not 100% true. In the video it is said that whites own the majority of farm land, this is true but the majority of land in South Africa is owned by the government. Take away the land from the white farmers and we will have a Zimbabwe 2.0, if you do not know what happened in Zimbabwe when the whites where forced off their land, go google it and see.
@Terrance McCray it's my land and country go fuck yourself I'm not going to die because of some liberals opinion overseas I've had enough of your fucking opinions stay out of our business and it's time we shut the door on this zoo
Apharteid ended decades ago and South Africa was handed to black people long ago so if things are not going well or if there is too much corruption, it should NOT be blamed on apartheid but rather on those who have been in charge since Mandela. it´s sad that many white South Africans want to leave. Also, many black South Africans are actually against massive migration of black people from other african countries into SA. Apartheid ended and white people there should not be blamed for anything. White South Africans seem to be the CURRENT victims.
Mariska Pretorius obviously her husband’s mind was twisted for trying to buy stolen land. Moron idiot. What you thinks it’s cool to go to Africa and take land from the true owners. I bet my life you’re a white person ?
@@marvelluslucass3662 You are assuming it was stolen. I suspect that he didn’t try to buy stolen land, but bought land from the previous owner. It’s difficult to determine when property becomes personal property.
@@jimziemer474 really their in a Clearly to take a vantage why didn’t he buy land in their own country does South Africa ring the bell. And let’s just go with your philosophical proposition after they killed her husband she still refuse to leave that land. You and I are assuming here, but I think my assumption has a higher probability of being correct.
It is utter nonsense that the black people did not own land during apartheid. When Dr. Verwoerd was the PM of SA black people were GIVEN their own homelands: Venda, Zululand, Boputhodichaba to mention only 3. Blacks moved close to the cities and towns in search of jobs and thats how townships started, whilst still having their GIVEN homes in their homelands. This is the truth that is not being told to the world.
@The Blood Of Ogun #AlphaBlack #B1 ... Using history books as an excuse to harass people is not a good thing. It wasn't their land. It was the land of other black folks who are dead now.
That land was unobtainable until the Dutch brought water management... Fact.. Not to mention no one was in that land for over 80 years until documented a family was walking through living like animals following food.
@@charlesspeaksthetruth4334 I'm black but brother why didn't SA get their act together before whites showed up. If they came from king and queens they should have had a strong military, strong economy. But you know the truth....tribal warfare. Even in the USA the average blacks cant unite and work together like the Jews, Latinos and Asians? Oh I know 22 inch rims, a tortured vanicular thanks to the ghetto rap culture, millions of abortions of black babies every year and a 70-75% singleness for black women and fatherless homes. Did you know before the 80s blacks spoke proper English and black parents and grandparents would smack the spit out of your mouth for using the N word. Ever notice why educated and rich blacks move out of poor black neighborhoods. But I guess blaming the white man for everything is 👍 But the problem with that blame game is the rich blacks made it and aren't using any excuses. Back to SA? If you want to talk who the land belongs to the Zulu nation would have something to say about it.
@bastia Mars I see your point but it is an excuse. Look at tribal warfare for example , if one tribe did not trust another tribe why would they trust whites? My other point is that you assuming blacks are so virtuous and trusting with the innonce of children. This is not true refer back to tribal warfare. Every country has the responsibility to defend thier soverinty and provide safety for its people. To say blacks mistakes was to trust white people is too simplistic. Blacks come from kings and queens, they gave us mathematics and great civilizations according to some right? Then it would be unfair to assume such a advanced people would just let whites come in and take over. However, what the french, English and Belgium's ( and a few other Anglo countries) did was horrible to the continent. And what black war lords did to thier own people was also a travasty. But today Africa has a real opportunity to partner with developed nations and change the course of the continent. But the same thing is happening but now with the Chinese. Chinese are taking over major African ports, power grids, rail road systems etc thru predatory lending. African countries are taking loans and whrn they can't pay the Chinese back they relinquish major infrastructure and resources. Did you know some African cointries spend upwards to 60% of the GDP paying back Chinese loans. That leaves little left for education, health, public safety and national defense. But there are some shining stars starting to emerge. Rwanda is one of the brightest stars. And have you ever asked yourself why Ethiopia was the only African nation never colonized. Africa has the largest growing middle class for consumer goods; the youngest working population. Great wealth in natural resources; some of brightest minds and talented people in the world but continue to give the continent away. There this young millionaire in Nigeria (I forgot his name ) . He comes to America and is taking photos with rappers, ball players and blinging out with expensive cars, and jewrly showing off. This mentality is why Africa as a whole won't prosper. You will have the 1% that holds 99 % of the wealth. Now have you heard of Buffet , Jeff Zebos (amazon), Steve Jobs (apple) or Bill Gates (Microsoft).? These are some of the richest men in the world and you don't see them chasing blinq blinq. Heck Buffet still lives in the same house he grew up in. The rich Africans need to forget the hip hop culture and learn from these guys or things will never ever change.
@@michaelchristophergutierre7244 Thank you sir, for being honest. It is not about the color of your skin, or what you look like, it is what is in your head and how you think.
@bastia Mars You can argue, but no matter what you say, there are still people living in mud huts, with no decent water in Africa. Your thinking is third world thinking. The color of your skin or how you look does NOT matter, it's how you THINK. There are good and bad people in all races, you have to look at people one on one. In Rhodesia when the white farmers were kicked out the people starved, there is no excuse that the native people who lived there could not grow their own food. They later begged the white farmers to come back again. This is just a small aspect of the overall problems in Africa. I would find it disgraceful if some other culture would have to come to Europe or USA to show us how to dig a decent well. We go over to Africa all the time to dig decent wells, just saying......they still cannot address their basic needs in a land that is the richest in the world. China will one day be the lords of Africa, and if you think the white were bad, just wait.
I'm black South African, born in 1994. I'm tired of being told I should hate the white man for a racism I have never encountered. I'm also tired of being told because I'm black female I'm a victim and oppressed because I've been afforded the same if not more opportunities than any other race. If my parents who experienced hate crime, inequality and racism do not complain about what happened to them, instead they have worked hard to rise above the poverty and hate they grew up in, then I really have no reason to complain. My only grievance is that I haven't found a political party that shares my conservative beliefs and really just loves and believes in this nation
@@dillonprice6044 Speak for yourself. Judge each person as an individual (for the good or bad they do). To judge any person by group (race, religion, gender) is the root of all evil. And I will definitely not take on myself or my children the guilt or "punishment" you think I "deserve" for something people I never even knew did. I will be judged on what I did, how I treated people, how I raised my children and my believes. If everyone just follows the simple rule of "1st, do no harm" a lot of problems will be resolved.
This is where the problem lies. You say "I", I doubt that there was ever a black person saying you should hate white people. Pay attention to everything around even at work place. See the bigger picture, this is not just about you. Hell is when you die and knowing you have done enough or rather nothing for your own kind. Wake up! You have a lot to learn, things I learned as a teen you're still struggling to find or may never find till your soul depart your body. That would be a waste
😂 NAIVE, The history alone should make you not trust them. Do you work in your own rich country. Well Arabs women don't. Money is given to them by their governments. So you are choosing to allow the future children to be slaves to the system all because you don't control your country future.
yes lol, and help the blacks with stuff like free healthcare and job programs... sadly no one in south africa is that smart including the whites, the entire country lacks education
Here is an uncomfortable fact: The majority of the black tribes in South Africa moved down into it from the north eastern side of the continent. These tribes, raped an butchered the original owners of the land, the San Bushmen....If anybody has a valid claim to the land then it is the SAN. There were so much murder and warfare in South Africa that large parts of the country was found uninhabited by the first european settlers. Certain areas undoubtably were settled by different tribes.These lived in a constant state of war with each other. Q:Were the much ills bestowed on the black races over the centuries? A: Unfortunately YES and this is very very regrettable. Be carefull of falling for political naratives by politician whose only goals are to enrich themselves. Exploiting the populations misery Unfortunately Africa has had way too many of them. South Africa needs an economic system that creates growth and jobs. Black South African urgently need to be lifted iut of poverty. The thinking that you can take the wealth of 5% of the nation, give it to the other 95% and not still have poverty is just silly. This notion that white people are rich is as silly. South Africas per capita GDP is low and falling under a corrupt and incompetent government that would resort to any means to cling to power.
Lol thats like saying there aren't any real japanese because the Chinese colonized them xhosa and other buntu tribes are not invaders we are a migrating society our culture was more developed than those of the cultures we absorbed and assimilated with we have khoisan blood in our veins we are the khoisan who are the people of this land why must invaders point to us like we are the same when you want and not when you want buntu tribes are not structured on genocide we are an assimilating and migratory society
One major problem that is essential to recognize is that the black population during the 20th Century experienced a growth unprecedented in the history of the world. There were 2-3 million blacks in South Africa at the end of the 19th Century. By 2000 there were 34 million! All of this was due to the productivity, rising living standards, rising life expectancy and the associated birth-rate explosion and immigration boom that characterized the country during those 100 years. So, the only reason why blacks are the overwhelming majority now - and try to use that fact to justify their Marxist claims - is precisely because of the ingenuity of the "white supremacist" civilization that they so desperately want to "transform" and "deconstruct". It doesn't take a genius to figure out what will happen to that enormous population once they succeed in destroying the civilization which grew and sustained them in the first place!
Ok ok, but why did they have to marginalize, criminalize, and dehumanize blacks in the first place. Why implement apartheid in the first place? Why not give blacks fair and equitable treatment and opportunities?
THANK YOU! The jelousy and greed is real. Instead of just moving on and stop projecting their inferiority complex and trying to alleviate their embarrassment of never accomplishing even written language, by trying to make us ashamed of who we are, they should thank Europeans who came and constructed their whole existence.
@@outcast566 That is exactly what European South Africans have realised and wanted to correct that injustice. An overwhelmingly majority vote for abolishing apartheid, in a referendum black weren't allowed to participate in. Whites took responsibility if their mistakes. Blacks can't take responsibility for anything it seems. If it was for them whites would be blamed for everything for the entire eternity. What should the whites do to make blacks happy? Stop existing?
@@Zhiivago African had grand society's constructed when your people were still living in caves...stop it! You don't do anything good for other peoples. Your arrogance is ridiculous 🤣
Given how they stole the land and never returned it after the 90s, I am rooting for SA. Humanizing these folks don’t make up for how they got the land. We do it in the USA all the time. If you get assets illegally, we take the fruits of it. We don’t say “hey, the family should be able to keep the house.” WE TAKE EVERYTHING!!! Same thing should happen here. Land illegally taken to begin with and should be taken accordingly.
The USA stole the land . The spanish stole all of south america and the land .the british stole the land in the usa canada and Australia. The russians took control of eastern europe . The english stole the land from the irish . My point GET OVER IT !!!
Black Power either way they’re all gonna fuck themselves over the exact same way they did in Rhodesia and when the whites leave there’s gonna be nothing getting produced and it’s gonna hurt everyone in the country.
Did anybody else see that "deed" ? ABC should probably do some more vetting/fact-checking with their sources and probably brush up on some basic South African history and current events as well.
South Africa which is smaller then a dust mite compare to God , belongs to God the creator of everything . Every single person on earth belongs to God . The universe and everything beyond belongs to our creator . Yes ! even the hout koppa belong to God that want something that belongs to God .
IF ANYONE BELIEVES TO GO TO SUCH LENGTHS FOR SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM,REST ASSURED THAT THE RIGHTFULL OWNERS WILL SPILL EVERY DROP OF BLOOD TO MAINTAIN THAT WHAT BELONGS TO THEM!!! MESSAGE FROM THE UNIVERSE TO THE HEARER!!!
Baloney. Nobody owned the land before. You can't own anything without documents, without written language, without a state to protect your ownership. The land was never even cultivated, what do these people want to use it for? The Afrikaans have lived in SA for generations, it's their land too. What use would that land be if it just lay barren, uncultivated, like it was before the European farmers came. Without them there wouldn't be more than 200 000 black people in SA. Those lands feed black African mouths too. This is all about greed. ANC wants to steal the land and give it for their party nomenclature to sell and enrich themselves.
If there was a war, you will lose, 95 million Black South Africans backed by other African countries who will back their fight, fighting against 4 million whites. You have already lost.
Overview. The Natives Land Act of 1913 was the first major piece of segregation legislation passed by the Union Parliament. It was replaced in 1991. The act decreed that natives were not allowed to buy land from whites and vice versa.
That’s messed up. Whites in SA have no numbers yet the ANC won’t take their lands and redistribute it to the black majority who are the real owners of the land. These white South Africans think their entitled to stolen land.
No, it belongs to the legal owners and the people who built civilisation on it. Most blacks in South Africa are immigrants, not "natives". Whites have been there longer than most blacks. So explain your rationale. And South Africa was nothing but mud huts when whites arrived. Blacks have always been in poverty in South Africa, they just want to leach off white wealth and accomplishment.
@@heldinahtmlhellyeah that's false the bantu expansion started and ended before whites invaded the region. Bantu expansion reach south Africa around ad300.
I get that she was attacked, but her great grandfather was a colonist. Acknowledge that and leave. Africa is nowhere near developed enough to understand that the sins of your ancestors aren’t your sins. It’s still a mob nation, gotta assess the reality
Any section of South Africa that is White will be amongst the best portions. This is why Whites need a homeland, so that they can contribute in a way that allows their perspective to survive. This is only possible is a sufficient number are together in one place, where the contributions matter, in aggregate.
ABC News - sorry you did not do you homework here. In 1913 most blacks lived in their homelands. They did not lived in the white areas. The Boers fought against the British in Boer Wars - check you facts. The people who put the blacks in this poverty trap was the Jewish mine owners. White miners fought against this in 1922. Jewish mine owners still imported more and more blacks to work on the mines. At first they worked for 6 months and then return to their homelands. Later they illegally stayed in townships. That was also the reason why blacks had to carry a passport "Pasboek". Another fact you can check is your geography. Look at a map of South Africa - you countries like Lesotho, Botswana, Swaziland. All these was suppose to become South Africa as whole. If you take those areas in consideration - you see that blacks actually received much more land than whites. My black friends complaining not received any land - but do no take this in consideration. Secondly, look where these black homelands are. All of them are located in the Northern Eastern parts of South Africa. Ironically, this is also the best land with the highest rainfall. If that land was in white farmers hands - they could probably fed the whole of Africa and still export. Thirdly, what you see happened in South Africa is now happening in Europa / USA - illegal migrants storming the gates. I just wonder what an European and USA Farmers will do when these illegal migrants decedents start demand their land in 100 years when they outbreeder the current populations. Why should these farmers give up their land?
