A Weird Liquide Smoke Machine for Filmmakers and Photographers

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@UncleJessy 2 года назад

Omg i need one of those smoke genie machines for my 3D Printing videos

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

I think they would be very happy to send you one ! Thous would look epic on your prints reveals !

@GeraldBertramPhotography 2 года назад

I'd love to play around with this but for what it is the cost is a bit prohibitive at least for what I would be able to do with it. Very cool device though! A bit different from your standard vape as the smoke doesn't dissipate as fast. I imagine the device must cool down the smoke to achieve that.

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

I never used a Vape but i a pretty sure you can't create liquide smoke with it.

@larsouille366 2 года назад

@@MathieuStern I'm pretty sure it's possible. I looked at the elements of the product on their website and the atomizer is clearly a copy of a standard smoking/vape atomizer. And there is no description of the components of the liquid but I'm pretty sure it is close to 100% VG (vegetal glycerine). My bet: an e-cig for power vape (+ custom firmware) + 100% VG + a fan = the smokegenie for a fraction of the price

@AaronsLyfe 2 года назад

@@MathieuStern It's all about the temp of the PG/VG aka fog juice. An ecig is the same principle just doesn't have a long nozzle which allows the vapor to condense back down due to cooling. I used to make fog curtains for some shows where I'd run the output of a fog machine through a cooler before exhausting it from above. Same effect just on a much larger scale. The key is getting the fog at or below room temps. I've been wondering when someone would make one of these and now I suspect we might see more hit the market at a much lower price

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

@@AaronsLyfe thanks for the explanation, indeed it seems this could be reproduced even for bigger machines !

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

@@larsouille366 hey, thanks for making your guesses on how you may create a similar functionality for SmokeGENIE! Normal vapes can not create smoke for any longer than 5-10 seconds. They will overheat and you need to replace the heating coil. Our chamber is designed so that you can do a continuous run over 5 minutes, which suits the needs of filmmakers more. We actually came from the background of FX, so we know quite a bit about modifying vape technology….the genie is definitely not a modified toy. Our vision for the genie is for intense productions where reliability is key! To be able to save time cost for down time /maintenance is what makes the price for the machine. The genie is currently involved in a lot of movie productions in Hong Kong, Hope that helps you put it into context!

@Beatsy 2 года назад

Actually looks quite handy if you need the effect. For tabletop stuff, I just use my normal vape. Fill a plastic bag with a dense cloud and then let the "smoke" drop out from a cut-off corner (don't squeeze the bag, that will disperse the vapour too fast). The clouds pool up and flow if the air is still and they waft around if it isn't. Can't do the volume this unit does, but I haven't needed that for smaller scale things.

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

thats a cool trick !

@SpeedKing.. 2 года назад

vape makes me cringe

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

Hey Mathieu! We are so happy to hear your very kind words and know that you are excited for our product! Empowering filmmakers and independent creators is what we strive for. Can't wait to see your future work using the SmokeGENIE!

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

Thanks again!

@jabba359 2 года назад

Looking at these comments about how $400-500 is overpriced, but then saw the latest update says kits will retail for closer to $800-900. While I don't doubt it's well constructed, that's completely insane. I don't expect many will sell at that price and will be quickly undercut by the competition that do a better job balancing the price to quality ratio. I'm already eyeing the MicroFogger 3 Pro with tank upgrade for about 1/3 of the price. It might not be quite as fancy, but I seriously doubt the SmokeGenie is 3x better. (Obviously the price critique is not directed at you Mathieu, since it's not your product. Just sharing my thoughts on it in general.)

@MicaelWidell 2 года назад

Wow I want one! Does the smoke leave any residue or make surfaces sticky afterwards? Or does it 100% completely disappear into the air?

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

it will leave a residue on glass and cold surface like stone and metal, but only if you do the liquide smoke option, it's very easy to clean with soap and water. I had a residue on the glass floor when i shot the zombie toy, but after 2 seconds under hot water it was gone.

@Caldoyel 2 года назад

Thank you! I have been looking for something like this for months!

@odin6647 2 года назад

Looks like a modified vape that has a fan to push air through the coils, cool idea.

@idabe170 Год назад

lol

@brooksysdead Год назад

Literally all it is lol. It's reservist a mod with a tank and an internal blower is the only thing that separates it from what I been using for my nicotine habit since 2012 lol

@MetalDEmpire Год назад

@@brooksysdead same

@sheldonnorton9035 2 года назад

I can’t tell if it will do an even spread in a room. Can it? Like perfectly even haze once fanned around traditionally. All the wisp is for over the top candy shots. We need even spread for cinematography.

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

If you use the Fan it should fog up the room like in the examples in the video

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

Hey Sheldon! Yes our machine can do even spreads. We have been involved in quite a number of commercial productions (MV, films) just for haze. You can see the results on our website!

@vaidehiarts 2 года назад

This is superb! Thank you for demonstrating this. I did have a few questions in mind - Does it smell (I've used a couple machines/tubes that were stinky)? How do you "refill" it and how long does the tube last? And can you get smoke with colours?

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

hey Janmejay! Thank you for being Interested! We designed the formula to have it smell odourless and pleasant around models / artists! Many Cinematographers prefer our smell over traditional fog machines. Also, the chamber had a very easy refill system, you can check out more on our website! As for coloured smoke, currently the technology is using fine powder dust to create the colour, so it is still very dangerous (it is difficult to get out of the body once breathed in). So at the point we are not developing that yet. But maybe there will be future technology waiting for us!

@Symous1616 2 года назад

I worked in entertainment business, we just used to make smoke from a normal smoke machine pass through ice, results were very similar.

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

was it portable ? was it possible to hide it inside a costume or a prop ?

@Symous1616 2 года назад

@@MathieuStern Hi Mathieu, we used to do that trick on theatre and hotel stages. Normally we had smoke machines that needed to be powered by a wall plug of course so not very portable. For a portable version this gadges has to be the best for sure. Otherwise maybe finding a USB smoke machine of some sort. The trick is to have cold smoke, so it stays on the ground.

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

@@Symous1616 You'te right! The secret to whether smoke floats our sinks is precisely about temperature. If the smoke is hotter than the atmosphere, it rises. If the smoke is cooler, it sinks. That's why our nozzles are designed to create a cooling effect for the smoke!

@lmckay8881 2 года назад

As always, your video is informative and fun to watch!

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

Glad to hear that!

@GregCoonrod 2 года назад

That looks like a ton of fun!

@JacoxNovak 2 года назад

For the price you can almost get a big haze machine which is a preferred type of atmosphere for films. Though this is way more portable and you don't need an extra assistant.

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

Yes, the reason Film Productions in Hong Kong prefer us over traditional Hazers because a lot of shooting locations don't have Power and is too small for Big machines. (Most indoor spaces in Hong Kong is below 1000Sq Feet).

@94JAVS 2 года назад

Awesome product! The results look great :)

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

I think so too!

@massimilianogadioli9386 Год назад

Which kind of material /liquid i need to use for create a bubble of fog (as in your video? I’ve acquired the smokegenie and i’m interesting, please 🙏 share this details with me thanks in advance

@SteveWB 2 года назад

Love it such an amazing device!

@samsen3965 2 года назад

Well... with all the savings Mathieu has shown to us till now when buying all these vintage lenses, maybe now it's time to spend it all on this smoke machine and "Burn the savings all"!🤔🤔 Very cool indeed.

@tasteinparis7138 2 года назад

This is just the thing i need for toy photography

@shadowreaper8895 2 года назад

looks good, I used to have a cheapo ebay one but my brother kept getting high and mixing it up with his vape

@MrSunamo 2 года назад

Aha, so this is it! How long does 60 ml of the smoke formula last approximately?

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

Hey there thanks for asking! 60ml Will last a total of 120minutes of total smoke. We also have a 120ml bottle refills!

@nobodycannacrossit9046 2 года назад

Can you refill it with any kind of smoke liquid?

@Khercules 2 года назад

What camera is that at the end, the one with a waste level viewfinder? Also, super cool device but quite costly.

@KuyaMagik 2 года назад

Love the video! I just got mine also, review soon!

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

I'll check it out!

@KuyaMagik 2 года назад

@@MathieuStern its up!

@mhaustria 2 года назад

It looks great. Thanks for this review!! I would love to use it for portrait work. But the safety data sheet reads like it’s not the best idea to use it directly on people. Did you have any side affects?

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

It’s safe to use if you keep the smoke from being directly projected in your eyes or mouth

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

Our MSDS says it's not good to directly spray because the first puffs of smoke is Hot. The Chemical composition of the formula is Food safe and it's harmless. Hope this helps!

@mhaustria 2 года назад

@@pmi_gear Thanks a lot for your answer. It could be interesting for an article in a German photography magazine. I'll ask.

@frezeoboy 2 года назад

Hi ... what’s the cost and is it available in the UK ?

@Kayttaja1524 2 года назад

I made my own with 90W vape and aquarium pump and its way more effective! 10X more smoke!!!!

@Kayttaja1524 2 года назад

Aquarium pump 1.50€ vape 20€

@samsen3965 2 года назад

Darkly Cool...😱

@asmrcuriositycabinet3143 2 года назад

This is awesome !!

@DJJJ999 8 месяцев назад

Where get these from?

@Giggler. 9 месяцев назад

Link to buy please

@dillanfourie3188 2 года назад

Ahhh yes, mans running the 50 nic strawberry bubblegum cream in there

@samsen3965 2 года назад

Cool but very "Dark"!!!

@tonyhayes9827 2 года назад

Cool but whats the liquid made from and how easy s it to access?

@k1k13004 2 года назад

that's the problem. I think they're going to make expensive and not really to get so you need to buy a lot at once. But I guess a fog liquid with glycerine will do the trick

@herhepolis7806 2 года назад

How you get this ? And how much it cost you ??

@Pentistry 2 года назад

A photographer and videographer’s dream.

@Godfather-Taha 20 дней назад

Very good Video 🎉

@samsen3965 2 года назад

2:04 Not an S600 Mercedes and not in an underground tunnel but Diablo Red & still in Paris... So why do I see The Queen of Hearts, "Lady Diana" here? (Side Note: The one who did this to her, has corona now... Hope she recovers soon!)

@lShishkaBerryl 2 года назад

That is an insanely overpriced modified box mod for vaping. Even the refills are overpriced lol, go get a gallon of vegetable glycerin for $40. I will say the different modes are definitely cool, but there's no way on this green earth that thing is worth anywhere near $400. I'd be waiting for Black Friday to roll around again 😆 I do have an extra old box mod, I should try to diy this....

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

Please do your mod and let me know if you get similar results, that would make an interesting video :)

@pmi_gear 2 года назад

Hey Shishka! Yes, years ago when we started our career as filmmaking FX crew, we have tried modifying Vape for similar results. It makes smoke, but we got really fed up with all the reliability and maintenance issues, that ultimately inspired the development of the SmokeGENIE! We have personally seen Modified Vapes Catch fire and even explode on set. It's a nightmare to use and fix vapes. The main cost of the SmokeGENIE is not actually about the effects, but to build the system rebost enough so it doesn't break on set. Time cost in film productions are very, very expensive. With all that said, we definitely encourage you to try if you are resourceful enough though! It's a cool engineering challenge and maybe you'll get a breakthrough!

@Indrakusuma_a 2 года назад

Now those are good responses

@ziandthecoolthings 2 года назад

@@pmi_gear What does smoke genie do specifically to ensure that it doesn't catch fire? I was under the impression that the majority of the vape mod fires were caused by a poor bms system and not the attachments on the mod. I love the product but it'll be hard for me to sallow $450 for something that a used vape could do. I do understand the appeal for reliability on a larger set, but for shoe string budget filmmakers where time doesn't always equal money I'm not sure I can justify buying this. Are there any other reasons to pick up a smoke genie over some diy option?

@anhonestreviewer7015 2 года назад

@@pmi_gear if you make it cheaper you sell more. If you keep the price high don't expect many buyers. It makes better sense to make your product available to the mass public as opposed to a smaller group of people with higher incomes. That and the fact that you will get better publicity for an affordable device as opposed to an expensive thing that most people won't buy.

@XiweiYing 2 года назад

what happens when you use their liquid in the vosentech unit?

@lucvanmalderen5634 2 года назад

Nice and handy gear, but extremely expensive :-(

@nick3159 2 года назад

How can buy ?

@103kamora 2 года назад

Can i use it like vape?

@RixtronixLAB 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing, keep it up:)

@nimmira 2 года назад

its like those electronic "vape" (or vipe? don't know the name) that is used by smokers (some call it electronic hookah i think?) I remember one time we asked for help from a friend who is a smoker and he smokes these things and we were shooting smokey stuff the poor guy almost went into a coma from breathing in and out (even though he is a heavy smoker) 🤭

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

Same technology but way more smart and easy to use without having to be a smoker.

@qtben17 2 года назад

I use a vape device and zero nicotine formula, with a straw placed in the chamber “vents”. Instead of sucking air like you would during vape, i push out air and the smoke goes out the straw from the vent. Another variation I do is use a battery powered leaf blower with its air intake vents placed directly to the vaping inlet. Works well

@nimmira 2 года назад

@@MathieuStern definitely! (though honestly, it was fun seeing someone getting sick bcoz of the smoke 🤭)

@siimernits3581 2 года назад

So basically a vape :D cool!

@smoke4131 2 года назад

Smoke, yes smoke

@igorgryvtsev5543 2 года назад

What flavor?

@sebastien-desmedt 2 года назад

Top !!!

@zanzmeraharsh3778 2 года назад

Smoke machine buy link

@EazyRed 2 года назад

460$ for a basic kit, and it doesnt come with the battery. wow xD

@sheriif 2 года назад

I've been learning how to cook

@sheriif 2 года назад

Jokes aside, great video as always! Always introducing us to new things :)

@alekseyprokopev7409 2 года назад

Can you vape with this thing?

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

you could, but i thinks a vape is cheaper

@fatima.a6180 Год назад

Expensive 😢

@BrotherOfTheTemplars1312 2 месяца назад

People keep saying it's a big vape, fog machine bro.

@Waterlinestudios 3 месяца назад

The ulanzi is at better, in price and function

@nimbarkcj 2 года назад

Or maybe i can call my smoker friend to cut the cost 😅😂

@HappySlappyFace 2 года назад

Gotta find a DIY solution for this

@LPSTUDIOPRODUCTION Год назад

Trop chère, je vais inventer une version moin chère … comme ça les gens pourront bénéficier de quelque chose moin chère …

@MrTrygon 2 года назад

The price it's a meme!!! Wtf, a vape it's 20 bucks...

@iban2118 2 года назад

Thats cool, but 400? 🤔

@hidecki 2 года назад

400$!.... way too expensive. imagine how many units you could sell if you prized it 200-250 ? i guess its too late now. good luck tho

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

well maybe they will listen to you !

@hidecki 2 года назад

@@MathieuStern i realized you are NOT the creator of this product. didnt know that.

@k1k13004 2 года назад

@@hidecki I agree it's too late. It'd be too weird to change the price but yeah I agree, I'd buy one right now at 250

@bookhouseboy3 Год назад

Currently $700 now

@skazhenyj 2 года назад

Is there anything that's not 'weird' left in this world? ;-)

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

Yogurt

@hyperborean2576 2 года назад

400$ for a vape machine is extremely overpriced

@94JAVS 2 года назад

Lol you never bought a vape machine

@hyperborean2576 2 года назад

@@94JAVS i did, the good ones cost from 100 to 200$

@Doncancook180 Год назад

Soooooooooo overpriced 750-800 dolars????

@niyz8526 2 года назад

500 bcks you kidding right?

@MathieuStern 2 года назад

They didn't even realise the product yet, let them have some time to adjust prices. Also I am here to speak about new weird products, some are cheap, some are less cheap.