She was so good it was genuinely scary. Like I wanted to call hild services to make sure they weren't torturing that kid because How could a TODDLER act tragedy so well?!?!
Seeing as I'm a horny jail warden by trade that is actually his most noteworthy performance in my book. For all the wrong reasons. He cant escape justice forever...
One thing not mentioned in this that I loved so much about this movie was how very obviously connected and intimate Mako and Raleigh are without it being overly sexual. Like, its obvious they like each other! but as someone on the ace spectrum to see in that final moment where there's no need for a kiss to know how much they love and care for one another really meant a lot to me! I just love so much that this series (at least the two movies I haven't watched the show) have more of an emphasis on love and connection without it needing to be overly romantic or sexual. I loved this video so much! but now need to go watch this movie again aha
Yes, 100% agree! I even read Mako and Raleigh as purely platonic when I first watched the movie (relatively recently) and was a little taken aback when I opened the internet to find avalanches of shipping content for them. The hug at the end of the movie made me cry so much, because they mean so much to each other 🥺
Yeah that's hella dope. Not ace, but I'm a big gay, and really appreciate getting to see some male/female relationships that aren't getting depicted as exclusively romantic.
Their relationship is built on a foundation of mutual respect, not attraction. That's not to say they aren't attracted to eachother, but that's literally the least important part of their relationship. Like I could easily see them having a sort of Black Widow/Hawkeye dynamic down the road.
I did get surrogate sibling vibes from them. Raleigh lost his brother and she lost her family to kaiju and their traumatic bond helped them seek closure.
Guillermo revealed in an interview that the hand-to-hand fight between Mako and Raleigh was literally filmed as a sex scene, an intimate physical experience between the two leads. And that's cool. Interviewer: That fight scene between the two of them may still qualify as the best sex scene to show up in any movie this summer, even if they are both fully clothed. Guillermo del Toro: That’s exactly how I shot it-like a sex scene. That scene was all about two people having an intimate connection after beating the crap out of each other. Basically, it’s the story of my life. And how I met my wife. [Laughs] www.timeout.com/los-angeles/film/time-out-with-pacific-rims-guillermo-del-toro
as an actual everyday cane user (who is also jewish and neurodivergent lolol) i personally love herman and i think the actor is one of the few ppl who really properly incorporated the cane into his character's physicality and like. actually uses it properly and in a way i recognize in my own life. i guess i mind an abled actor playing him a lot less since there was so much obvious effort and care in his portrayal. herman makes me feel seen in a way i haven't experienced with other characters.
literally this, everyday cane user here too and just watching him walk with it and use it to pull things around and tap his chalkboard i just scream 'yessss' because i do that! i use my cane to turn on my computer when i need it to warm up, i use it to point at stuff, his gait with it is incredibly familiar and it isn't so much as Acknowledged, it's just... there! whether the role could have been played better by a disabled actor is subjective, we'll never know, but i learned to love my own cane through watching hermann and i definitely feel seen by his portrayal :')
@@feraltender Yessss, at least it was being used realistically. At the grocery store and the item is on a shelf that's too high? Time to use the cane! Or the items are too far back to reach? Up goeth the cane! Hell, I'm constantly gesturing and gesticulating with it. Leaning against a wall and I don't need it for stability? Time to spin it around like a batton or swing it back and forth. Crabby? The cane stomps. Sitting and bored? Tossing it back and forth from hand to hand. Elevator button? Hitting it with the cane. Handicapped door button? Cane. Pushing open doors, pulling open doors, depressing and pulling that one type of door knob... emotionally upset, not as precise. Mood leaks into the usage of the cane as much as any other part of me. It's also gonna get used when I communicate. And for the most part, if there's something the cane can accomplish that I can't (or that the cane would be faster at, etc) it's just gonna get used without really thinking about it. If you're using it long term, it's just an extension of you. I mean, okay, some folks probably aren't as figity as I am, but like. The brain doesn't go: ah yes, this thing in my hand every day has but one task and one task only, executed in precisely the same way every time no matter the mood. You see too many actors playing characters who are supposed to be long-term cane users, and it's like a dead appendage in their hands. Which always strike me as weird, because if nothing else acting is theoretically expressive. Idk, I'm fine with actors that don't need canes playing characters that do, just like breath some life into the poor thing. There's some ableist tropes they could stop feeding, but like. Outside of those roles? Nah, just actually use the damn thing. It's not a skittish cobra, it's not gonna bite you if you get too active with it, and it's not some delicate sacred relic that will break or scandalise the audience if used for more than just walking. While this is more on the writers, come on: we're walking around pre-armed with a melee weapon; it's got multiple potential grips and ways to swing it, it's often made out of metal these days, one end has a "handy" bludgeon to strike with, and they often have a helpful little wrist strap so disarming one of us can be that little bit more difficult. (Hell, my father had a cane that, while the body was wood, had a heave brass duck's head as the handle with a nice pointy beak and a pretty sharp brass "foot" as well. It wasn't exactly a "soft" or "brittle" wood either. If you have a cane using character cowering from some monster, presented as helpless because they can't run as well as the abled characters all while they're holding a cane in one hand: Writer, thou hath failed at canes! Please, come on, get visceral with that thing! Show the me some nice hard swings and strikes with it, show me that raptor, slasher villain, alien, eldritch abomination or fully human villain getting absolutely clobbered upside the head!
@@Ladyknightthebrave ahaha YES!! the author also is a cane user and so i really love how well it's incorporated into his pov!! love the little gremlin boy...... as if i didn't want a raven-headed cane badly enough BEFORE i read the books........
The frustration I have at Uprising giving those kids RANGER suits and it never occurred to them to you know, make them different colors to help differentiate them. Like a certain other tokusatstu property that refer to themselves as RANGERS and are known for wearing various colored suits. Such a missed opportunity at a very pointed reference left over from the first movie.
It would've been so cool to add in, like, a couple shots of them spray painting their basic ranger suits to match their jaegers in the middle of rebuilding them from scrap
@@elderjose9662just cuz you can't read tone doesn't mean that's anyone's problem but yours, since you feel the need to whine in every comment chain you can find
Was I supposed to know that James Cameron gave GDT one million dollars to get his father back or was I supposed to just find it out on a brilliant Pacific Rim video essay by Ladyknightthebrave????? Also, I desperately wanted Jake and Nate to kiss.
Uprising lacked the self-confidence that the original movie had, so it was constantly undermining its own sincerity with jokey-jokes. Plot and pacing and cinematography and everything else aside, the confidence to be sincere is what made the first movie resonate with people.
This 100%. Uprising was a good fun movie in isolation, but it definitely doesn't have the sincerity and attention to detail that makes me love Pacific Rim. Also I hated so much how they made the Jaegers look like toys instead of fifty tonnes of steel.
The athstetic is so different too, it's so bright but militarized at the same time that I feels like it came from a whole different franchise. The first film had Del Toro's love of color oozing from it while with Uprising it's so much more sterile. Idk I wish there had at least been an attempt to carry over Del Toro's love of color into Uprising, also that Pacific Rim wasn't at all a militaristic film.
@@inkasaraswati7625 you know what the toys thing really made me annoyed cause it kind of very much broke under context. In the first movie we're told people made toys out of Jaeger designs, by the same logic the Jaegers themselves should never look like toys cause they're weapons, you don't start making a gun based on nerf cause that risks so much design problems
I got halfway through this video, decided to wake my kid (11) up to watch Pacific Rim (11:30pm). ‘Wanna watch a monster movie about friendship’ ‘Fuck yes’. Mako walked on screen and she goes ‘Yeeeessss’. I think I’m doing ok as a parent.
The aggressively romantic tension between Mako and Raleigh is EVERYTHING and without that, there was and is no reason for me to ever watch the sequel since the removal/sidelining of them means the most magical part of why I love the first film is gone. Thank you for including me in this giant Pacific Rim project. Guillermo Del Toro is extremely underrated by the industry and I'm so glad you put in an entire section hyping him up. I'm commenting as I'm still watching this but I'm sure I will love everything left for me to watch. 🌸✨
Thank you for talking to me about Mako. (Also low key I might look up that K-drama Vincenzo after listening to you and the writer from Shadow and Bone hyping it up so much)
I agree 100%. It's the main reason I intensely disliked the sequel along with other stuff I won't talk about because it's spoilery. It's like..Halo without Master Chief and Cortana together. What's the point?
Mako's storyline was one of the main draws of the original for me, as is how aggressively Raleigh is on her team. It's rare to see a male protagonist advocating for his female lead in a way that isn't overtly sexual. Also, the fact that he so clearly adores her. I love them. I haven't seen the sequel for all of the reasons stated in the video. It shafts the fans of Mako so badly.
1:07:50 Also even in joke form, the Bechdel test wasn't intended as a movie feminism test. It is a lesbian character in a comic with lesbian in the title created by a lesbian artist, complaining about the lack of characters that could be interpreted as (let alone explicitly portrayed as) lesbians
My the biggest issue with Mako's death for me was just how completely random it was. She was *LITERALLY* just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that place was just... a few cubic meters midair between some buildings. Nearly every other character death in the entire franchise is some form of heroic sacrifice. They either walked into those situations not even expecting to survive because they were willing to make that sacrifice, or the lethality of the situation was unexpected but they were still killed fighting in the line of (an inherently heroic) duty. I can get on board with the concept of the new big threat immediately and senselessly killing someone who matters to the other characters (and to us by extension), because it efficiently eliminates any ambiguity surrounding the legitimacy/severity of the threat and sets up the emotional stakes tied up in the fight against it. However, the first film did such a wonderful job impactfully handling the deaths of both Raleigh's brother and Mako's parents despite their minimal direct presence in the story that I can't see how it would've been necessary to use ANY existing main character to accomplish this narrative goal, let alone Mako, especially considering the outright admission that an entirely different character could've just as easily been on that helicopter. If it was absolutely Mako who had to die for external reasons, then she should not have gone down without a fight or without making any personal sacrifice. If they absolutely needed her gone from the film before the exact threat was known, and she absolutely could not go down swinging from inside a Jaeger, then she could've and should've been killed via *intentional* AND *necessary* risk to her personal safety via known close proximity to either ostensibly *mild* but virtually *guaranteed* danger of a *mis*identified nature or definitely *severe* but merely *potential* danger of an *un*identified danger. As long as it's not a situation confidentially perceived as well understood and basically safe... like riding in a helicopter. If I were writing it with these constraints, I'd have Mako employ her truly unique combination of professional expertise and lived experience to personally investigate some strange and suspicious rift/kaiju activity in the field in order to find the evidence of an ongoing, significant, urgent threat necessary to justify the continued funding of the entire piloted Jaeger project, which would be entirely shut down if the mission were not successful in finding said evidence. And while this would still put her in the wrong place at the wrong time, it would be doing so for a very specific purpose with very high stakes. And this is more of a bonus than a goal, but I'd argue that this makes her death no less senselessly tragic since the full scale & form of the threat was not yet known by anyone at the time. Nobody would think of her excursion as a suicide mission, as most of the characters would probably expect her to find nothing much of anything at all. This implicates the new drone Jaeger project in her death in an additional way (as that would be the source of the intial funding conflict), and it would emotionally wreck and therefore motivate Jake in an additional way (as Mako will have died because of an attitude towards the project he'd explicitly endorsed and perpetuated). This doesn't undermine or replace existing plot points and character developments, it reinforces them. And most importantly, her final mission would be entirely successful in its aims directly *because* the threat she went looking for evidence of was unexpectedly lethal, meaning all heroic actions by every single Jaeger pilot and engineer taken throughout the entire rest of the film can be in attributed, in part, to her heroic sacrifice. I mean I'd prefer not to write it with these constraints and just let Mako live, but at least this is a way to kill her without shoving her into a refrigerator.
Whilst I think a lot of what you said is correct and I agree, the plot explains why she wasn’t just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Mako explicitly states she’s against the Drone Jaeger program, and had plans to veto its deployment on full scale - this would absolutely go against Newt’s plans as an agent of the Precursors. Obsidian Fury was specifically deployed to the city on that day to kill her before she could veto the deployment of the Drones. She had to die for the plot, as annoying as I find her death.
In think the the peak of Jäger (and yes thats how we germans write this word) desig is tacit ronin seen 7n the movie only in the prolouge a japanese Jäger, white with big sword on its arms and the lost Pointen head of any Jäger
My big problem with the second movie is that the new jeagers don't move in a way that looks physically believable. Scrapers fine she's smol. But jeagers shouldn't be able to be quick unless they figured out some crazy inertial tech. I mean ok that's more a nitpick. I really really REALLY!!! hope we get a third movie that does what it needs to
The ‘camera’ is a big part of that problem. In the first movie, the viewer stays ‘grounded’ by almost exclusively witnessing the fights at the level that humans on the ground or up in a helicopter could experience (which harkens back to IRL disaster news coverage). In the next movie, the viewer is being bounced around and floating up in the air like the view point of a gamer playing Rocket League. So not only do the robots have no weight (air resistance was a real, if lessened, force in the first movie but has no presence in the second… a lot like gravity) the viewer has no relation to reality either. I think PR2 was fine stand-alone but as a sequel was a failure. Pacific Rim 2 was seemingly a whole new genre and would have been a whole new universe if not for the cameos.
My pitch for an ultra-lightweight speedy jaeger like the ones this movie tries to use, is to: -Make it smaller than the other ones, not too much, but noticeably so -Remember Gipsy’s elbow rockets? Yeah, those, but more, you know how spaceships have tiny thrusters all over them to help them maneuver? Like those. -Make it a glass canon, where it’s incredibly fast and agile, but if it takes a few hits, it’s out for the count -Make it look very slim and aerodynamic, with flaps and fins all over -And for last, make it slightly slower and weightier than the ones in uprising
The problem with giant robots is that they will *always* appear slow from a human perspective unless a Jaeger moves so fast that it would probably rip itself apart. The new Jaegers had speeds similar to Striker Eureka, but you couldn't feel the buildup like you could with Striker.
"You are gaining logic but losing grammar" might have just become one of my favourite things a director's has ever said. I feel like this should be the standard, copy paste response to any Cinema Sins style of "critique." Also, I use a walking stick pretty often (the result of a balance disorder) and I actually quite like how the actor handled the performance here. It's significantly better than other awful uses of walking stick I've seen (Matt Smith in "Time of the Doctor" did such a bad job with it) but naturally it's annoying to see abled actors cast in disabled roles.
I love how you always distill the purest love for the media you analyze, it's contagious. Also I used to be obsessed how Mako/Raleigh had such an intense and palpable chemistry yet it wasn't sexualized which was rare at the time. And with the Kaidonovskys and Cherno Alpha.
Honestly just go read this review It's the best review anybody has ever written about Jupiter ascending It's better than anything I could ever say about it sashayed.tumblr.com/post/110444647320/heres-the-thing-about-jupiter-ascending
@@Ladyknightthebrave oh my goodness, that was probably the most beautiful thing I’ve ever read. Thank you for sending me to it 🥺 (to be completely honest, I am a greedy B who would ALSO still love to see your tribute to the film, but zero pressure and all the support).
@@Ladyknightthebrave i understand if you feel that way but JA needs all the love it can get from people. The fandom is little but eager for content and your videos are the best
The first movie was better than it had any right to be. I was convinced that it was obviously a cheezy transformers/godzilla vs Kong rip off and while that can be argued to be fact it's so much more than that. It's charming and feels self aware.
I have ADHD and I haven't taken my meds yet today, and it really puts into perspective how much I adore pacific rim that I'm just sitting here watching this entire video uninterrupted without even realizing. Like holy shit
I've never seen the sequel but not I'm quietly fuming lol. My favourite part of the first film was Mako, and how respected her culture was, especially by her adoptive father, Pentecost, who always gave her a little bow every time he saw her ❤️ like that isn't something you see a lot in movies with mixed casts and it was NICE
I have a passionate love for the first movie, I do not rec the second movie, after watching it I just wanted to rewatch the first again and forget I ever watched the 2nd
I bow to everyone and sometimes I'm a bit embarrassed after I bow, to some "oriental " reflexively At the end I rise up embarrassed but I move on . I also do this 🙌👏 a lot And I realized this is in a way universally human n-n bd . It makes people smile But I see that orientals, indians, and christians wonder if I'm praying or being "correct" not acknowledging even though I'm Hispanic maybe I hold uncommon beliefs . It was. Funny and kinda sad but it happened a few times. The bowing is cute tbh but irl ppl get confused where to place u compared if u just fit the "norm" or what they expect from u . So keep em guessing fam😊
The bit at the end of Pacific Rim where everyone is cheering but Chuck's dog Max is barking makes me absolutely sob every time. Also, I have chosen to believe that Mako was working on some kind of miniaturized Jaeger that is functionally an Iron Man suit, that she used to survive.
Pacific Rim: beautiful movie with a story to tell. Amazing cinematography. Character with personality and story. Setting that is so detailed i want to go and be a tourist. Monster I want to study. [Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah insert more love here ] Pacific Rim Uprising: toys???
My biggest problem with the Jaeger fights in Uprising was that imo, the movie failed to capture the scale of the mechs and the kaiju in the same way the first did. It felt more like action figures being thrown at each other rather than a truly massive fight between titanic beasts of flesh and metal. But uh, yeah. Other than that, I think I agree with pretty much everything you said about Uprising. Scrapper was fantastic, Jake and Nate were quite amusing, and Mako's death felt like highway robbery. Overall, fun stuff, very gay
@@JohnDoe-uf3lj The slur thing is complicated and not as cut and dried as the intro to this vid makes out. It's also very nationality dependent and just because some american with romani ancestry somewhere, and who don't do the traveller lifestyle but does have a tumblr account may claim it is with authority don't neccessarily make it so. There's also those who identify as the above slur and would be more insulted if you assume because they'do the ltraveller ifestyle they're romani. It's probably closer to something like 'boy' argiably. Not a slur in of itself, but sure as hell can be used as one dependent on context.
@@stryke-jn3kv "Gypsy" may be considered as a slur in case of using it towards romani (with a certain intent). Otherwise, it is closer to "vagrant" or "stray". And since none of the Gypsy Danger's pilots are romani and the origin of this jaeger doesn't have anything to do with a specific etnicity, I think replacing "Gypsy Danger" with "Lady Danger" (or "Sir Danger", doesn't really matter) is kinda dumb. If you really think about it, you can create a context where any word would be offensive. And when someone adds such a context when there wasn't one to begin with, they're doing a great disservice to all sides of a conflict
It's interesting hearing how differently Legendary treated the Pacific Rim franchise compared to how they treat the Monsterverse. those movies aren't thaaat much more succesful, yet they seem a lot more forgiving and overall more respectful to the monsterverse. I guess Godzilla is just their favorite child, and is the more preferable kaiju franchise to the studio. I am a huge Godzilla fan, and I think I like the monsterverse more as a franchise overall, but I kinda wish they'd give pacific rim the same care and respect.
Joel from Pacific Rim The Black is one of my favorite things in the universe honestly? How drifting with someone will let their thoughts seep into you, and suddenly you're spinning a knife or playing an instrument because that's something THEY were able to do. They never do anything with it, but it has some great potential!
Half Japanese here. Mako getting Fridged was a shallow plot choice, especially when DeKnight says he could've switched her out with Herc and not made much of a difference. Like she's replaceable with anyone. He does miss the point of that question, which is pretty sad, but not surprising. I LOVE Kikuchi Rinko so much, and her death in Uprising made me internally disown the sequel from the PR universe - it just became a multi-million budget fanfic that I was watching and going 'okay, fully ignoring what just happened - hopefully other fanfic will deliver on a better fulfilling plot'. For me, fic has become such the emotional baseline for storytelling, so films kind of feel like intro stepping stones to better stories that fics can deliver. But the original PR film HAD that delivery and soul already! I love that film so much.
Definitely lazy screenwriting on Uprising. I think DeKnight saw Mako and Shao together and thought "This will confuse American audiences and China will only cheer for Shao."
@@adamjaxn3156 dang that could be their thought process - 'only one token per nationality or it's confusing' type thing; whereas I'd be sitting here getting progressively MORE excited the more Asian cast members and characters there are 😁 Kikuchi Rinko, Sanada Hiroyuki and Okamoto Tao in Westworld S3 had me absolutely screeching with joy haha
I'm currently in the process of re-watching the Star Wars prequels with my family. We're about to watch Episode 3: The High Ground Meme. The second paragraph of your comment really resonated with me as someone who watched them as a kid and was like "This is trash and the effects look all kinds of wrong and our tragic hero Anakin is basically a creepy incel but the comics and games that came out of it are really good" and the comics and games are. They're EXTREMELY well-written, which is weird considering how a lot of the good ones were written when everybody thought that Episode 1 was the greatest movie of all time, and I'm looking forward to seeing the finale of the big-screen adaptation of my favorite Lego Star Wars levels.
I really appreciate how sensitive you are about the Romani slur, I was unaware that it was a slur until recently. I hope media continues to spread and reinforce the idea that it could be offensive to certain people.
That's because it's not a slur, at least not in the way you think it is. For English-speaking people, "racial slur" makes you think "n-word", but "gypsy" is nothing like that. Now mind you, I'm no authority on how it's used in English, but in Hungarian, it's only ever used pejoratively when calling a non-Romani person a gypsy. With the intention that being compared to them would be insulting, basically the same as when "gay" is used as an insult. Additionally, there are phrases like "gypsy music" and "gypsy musician" which carry no negative connotations and have no politically correct alternative, at least not that I've heard of. I've never heard anyone say something like "Romani musician" and neither have I ever seen anyone take offense to being referred to as "gypsy musician".
@@Gloomdrake Does it matter? I didn't give my personal opinion on the matter, I explained how it IS used. I'm also not gay, can I not make the observation that it's usually not offensive to call someone that? Or flip it around, say I am, does my opinion then discredit the opinions of those who do take offense to it? If you do want my opinion, I think that Romani people are treated like absolute subhuman garbage here, and I find that deeply disgusting for obvious reasons. But the usage of the word "gypsy" is an insignificant factor, if a factor at all, which is debatable for the aforementioned reasons.
I said to my husband, "I wonder if she's gonna talk about Designations?!" (He's familiar with it because I told him all about it when I was reading it originally and many times since 😂) Needless to say, we were euphoric when you mentioned it! Such a great video, as always. And I really hope that we somehow get a third film.
I'm only 20 min through and I just want to say that I love your storytelling in all of your videos. Even when I'm not familiar with the material, you make me emotional for shows I don't know. But right now, I'm at work, so I'll just restrain (or trying to) from crying.
I've never read Designations, but i was so stoked at the mention of From out the Ocean Risen!! My pacrim hyperfixation hit me like a wrecking ball a few months back and seeing people talk about it is so fun! I really lived how the chapter about the first movie felt like a love letter. I disagree with a lot of your takes about the second movie, but you make me want to give it another chance (You're right that its INCREDIBLY gay, but I'm not sure I can forgive it for the solution to Newt's being brainwashed and/or completely controlled for over a decade being "lets tie him to a chair in a darth vader basement"). Also, the obvious answer to the Reyes Question is a Lambert/Pentacost/Reyes polycule. Or shipping her with Li Wen; that works too. Thanks for reminding me of all the reasons I ADORE the pacrim 'verse!!
Excellent video, not just about the media but also the fandom around it. At the time, it felt like one of the first films where all the characters were diverse but with their own interior lives. & the Tumblr fandom I was part of at the time latched onto that and fleshed out everyone. Also, my husband and I entered our wedding reception to the Pacific Rim theme and I will defend that choice to the bitter end
What honestly always makes me laugh, as someone who's lived in Sydney, is that the Kaiju is coming from inland (?!) in the Sydney scene. And also, the Wall has been built with the policy makers basically being like: "Fuck North Sydney!". XD
I have two instances of watching the first movie that stuck with me. Seeing it in theaters with a girl who would become my platonic soulmate (which heck ya love that platonic rep in this movie) and feeling energized and excited and such a nerd. And then showing it to my friend and her husband when we were all living in Japan just south of Kobe, watching it via a projector we set up to cover a full wall of their living room, and recreating being Kaiju and Jeagers wearing our silly godzilla pajamas in the living room while the credits played. When I think of 'fun' this is the movie I think of. I was pretty put off by things I had heard about uprising so I didn't give it a chance, after watching your video I think I might next time I need dan uplifting bit of cinema. As always excellent video!
I remember this movie because my tumblr mutuals went crazy over it back in the day. I'm Brazilian, so the americans naturally got to see it first and were very excitedly hyping this up as "great representation of nations joining in to fight a problem, truly global" and then I went to the movies to watch it once it came out and really the only nations that had spoken lines were America, Japan and Australia, and I was so incensed! I remember i sent a message to one of my mutuals like "this movie is only global to Americans" and they were like "but they mention Brazil" yeah, in one line in the introduction. Amazing. So when the second movie came out I completely ignored its existence. Never even knew they made an anime about it.
okay youve sold me, i have to watch these movies, mainly for Owen Edit: just watched the a first one. As someone who walks with a cane, I don't mind Owen doing so. BUT I was not prepared for how lovecraftian things would be D: loved all the emotional scenes, feared everything on the other side.
Pacific Rim Black: Hold it, they made it Dark Gritty Edge? Why are all the fun stuff being turn into Dark& Gritty?? I thought we were done with that nonsense.
First of all, is not like everything is dark and gritty there is still a sense about hope and bounds between two different people,. Is not silly and epic as the first movie but is not an unbearable mess as uprising.
I agree that the anime is flawed in many ways from the pacing to the animation. However it is fascinating to think of it as the inevitable conclusion to the Pacific Rim Universe and no matter what the characters do this magic simply isn't sustainable. Furthermore I think that a lot of the ideas it introduces such as Boy being part kaiju part human is really interesting pointing to some crazy world where both dimensions have collided. This also leads to the actual monsters (Both Robot and Kaiju) being able to have their own distinctive personalities adding a whole new potential layer to the franchise.
Yeah I mean, the anime might be beyond perfect but I honestly disagree with her about being made "without passion" because I really think people behind didn't everything they could with what they had in comparison with Uprising like instead of trying to mimic visually stunning fights it give us a character driven story that can improve overtime if you let it do it. The character feel like they have a long journey ahead, there only "problem" is they don't have a define characteristic that makes them feel compelling but I feel that is going to change in the future. The animation... is weird in human characters but works in the jaegers and I think it could be improve with a bigger budget.
Pacific Rim is one of my favorite movies and I think the way you discuss it is brilliant. Your balance between objective observation and subjective opinion is what makes your videos so solid, engaging, and smart. I've been watching your videos for a while and I love them all but this is by far one of my favorites
My main complaint about Pacific Rim is that there are like 15 different blonde white guys of approximately the same height and build, and I can never for the life of me tell them apart.
Gipsy danger would always be my fave hero robot. I was 19 when i saw her/him fight on screen and i was so happy. Pacific rim was the last movie where i felt genuine excitement for outside of godzilla in 2014. To show that kaiju films can exist in the western world.
This is a really great video, there's just a couple things I feel the need to point out. Pacific Rim: 1)Hannibal Chao was talking about a public Kaiju refuge when he said "I tried it once. Once." 2)Hannibal's shoe landed near Newt (I think Newt even picked it up and dropped it) when he was swallowed by the baby Otachi, so while we don't see him get it back the audience knows where it went. Pacific Rim: Uprising: The cadets all wear a standard uniform because they're cadets who haven't officially been given Jaegers to pilot (Jake and Nate have a blue uniform that matches Avenger) and that presumably carries into the final battle because their specific suits wouldn't have been made because it wasn't time for them to advance to active pilots officially. While it does make them all very homogenous it fits with what's going on in the narrative
As a note, the general way to estimate a movie's total budget is to multiply the production cost by 2 to account for marketing. When you take that into account, Uprising lost 10 million dollars at the box office. It's not a greedy studio wanting the movie to gross a billion dollars, it's s studio wanting a return on investment.
For further clarification, it's not a matter of marketing always literally costing as much as the production of the movie, the whole doubling the production budget thing is in consideration of the fact that box office numbers don't show what the studio actually takes home in returns. Domestically, half that money goes to the theaters, and internationally that's more like 70% or higher. That's why domestic is calculated separately and why studios consider it a big deal when a movie doesn't do so well in the states even if its numbers look good internationally. Long story short, calculating income generated by movies is complicated and the sad fact is that they're not actually making as huge a profit as you might think just based on the reported box office results. A lot of movies straight up lose money at the box office even if on paper they're bringing in hundreds of millions. Like Corran109 stated, the simplest way to look at it is that a movie needs to double its production budget just to _breakeven_. And for big movies like this, these days, its almost a requirement for it to get close to a billion for it to even be considered successful. Yes, it's still technically greed, but its pragmatic greed.
i feel like i should mention i watched pacific rim in order to understand this video essay, took a break halfway through to watch uprising, and then came back to finish the video essay. really enjoyed this!!! i’m personally really fascinated by the bit of fandom history on the middle - always been a passion of mine. will be searching out that fic now. thank you!!!!
This is really late, but personally the first Pacific Rim is one of my all time favorite movies. Uprising was okay I guess, really only cared for the fight scenes. The Black while definitely more edgy then the first two films was way more enjoyable for me then Uprising was.
1:11:01 “Supernatural” It’s kinda comforting to know they’ll never truly died, they literally “Went To Heaven”, “Jailbreak Purgatory”, and “Rescue Bobby From Hell”. …hopefully they make a movie
god i LOVE pacific rim (2013). everytime i think about it i get this huge smile on my face because it's just SO GOOD. also, the boys, as messy (that's a word) as season 2 was, gave us karen fukuhara as kimiko miyashiro and for that i will always be thankful. i would recommend it because it definitely became one of my top 2021's hyperfixations but i feel like everyone should do some research on it before watching it because there's A LOT there.
I'm disabled and I really can't see an able actor playing a disabled role as good rep. My thinking is pretty black and white on this one. But I am glad they didn't make the disabled character the villain.
Del Toro looks like he’s acting his ass off in those It’s Always Sunny clips. I love him. I started crying when you read his quote about his love of monsters.
I love Pacific Rim it's a practicaly perfect action film. My only issue is I'm Australian and those were not Australian accents, not even close. Uprising just didn't have any heart to it outside of Newt and Herman, the sincerity was lost.
lmao same! I'm Australian and i was a big fan of the movie when it was first released, and I didn't even realise that the Hansens were supposed to be Aussies until i revisited it years later
In 2015 Guillermo del Toro also co-authored the book "Trollhunters" wich he adapted a year later into a Netflix series by the same name. Both the novel, the series and the spinn-offs of the series are great. The franchise has trolls, aliens and wizards, so a little bit for everyone.
The Jaegers being the most expensive possible solution to the monsters is the point in capitalism. The more expensive something is, the more profitable it is for which ever billionaire owns the company making the things.
This totally inspired a rewatch and 1) I never realized the symbolic significance of the GREEN dye released by the life pods until you explained the Raleigh-yellow, Mako-blue thing, and 2) When Lady Danger’s mechanized voice is giving altitude read-outs as they free-fall I could literally only hear GLaDOS 😅
Is it bad when I hear there's a cool mechanic character flirting with both the main male leads who also have chemistry with each other my first thought is poly ship? I could just be still salty about jedistormpilot tho...(I am. I'm still salty about jedistormpilot and I will be until the day I die.) Also fantastic video! I might actually be down to give the sequel a shot now cuz originally all I heard was nerd boys saying it was garbage and I just assumed it was true. I do love your idea for a third film even if it's a joke, hell the best thing about the first film is that stuff doesn't have to make sense, as long as it's cool that's what matters so why not? It does suck we likely won't get another one tho and even if we do it likely won't be anywhere near as queer as it should be :/
Not me crying immediately during the analysis of the first film. I remember being 15 and watching this movie twice in theaters, once in the Philippines and the next in my hometown. It was such a gift both times. Thank you for making a video about this series, it's definitely my top comfort movie of all time.
I can't believe those actors weren't actually Australian; those might be the best, most convincing Australian accents I've ever heard. And I've been to Australia!
Very late but awesome vid detailing Pacific Rim and Guillermo's inspirations in making it! Still nothing funnier even after all these years than Guillermo spilling his hate for horses because of how unpredictable they were during Pan's Labyrinth
ive always weirdly liked pacific rim, like i didn’t even really know why i liked it so much but i just did. And i still do REALLY like it. ( and can i saw it has always reminded me of neon genesis evangelion)
The online cinematic universe of the gay scientists is just a joy to know about. They're the only thing I really remember from my one viewing of the first movie.
22:10 the real reason they feel the pain of the Jaeger is because they have to have a sense of feeling. Example; they feel the boat they pick up at the beginning and they feel buildings and when they punch things, if they didn’t feel anything, they could accidentally destroy something or forget about losing a limb
Okay, beautiful video so far. I'm only 23 minutes in as of writing this. But I really need to vent my utter frustration at the whole 'Wall' idea the governments had :'D. I can really see our world's government think this is a brilliant solution to monsters who have been literally busting through concrete and steel buildings like paper. Lol like wtf.....OKAY, back to the video.
