You forget the size of the fuselage and the wings. The more surface, the bigger the amount/mass of wind that pushes the machine. I guess weight plays a vital role, but not that much as we've seen in this and many other videos.
@@k.r.99 Your comment is simply mathematically wrong. The equation describing inertia is NOT a linear equation. To make it simple, to move an object with a higher mass, it takes a disproportionately higher force. That is why we don't cross an ocean on a rubber dinghy, but require reasonably sized boats. Boats with higher mass provide more stability. While it is true that disturbed air works on a bigger surface area on the A380, the increased inertia from a higher mass far outweighs it mathematically. You would need to attach a huge sail in order to have strong enough forces working on the A380 to make it move like an A320. Have you ever flown in the Alps in a two-seater plane? The turbulence you will feel is something that you will most likely never feel in an A320. Why? Again, we are talking about inertia here. That is my firsthand experience. And not only are we talking about first-hand experience and math, we also have a huge sample size. Millions of passengers have flown this plane and were able to make observations. Countless forums are filled with reports of a smoother ride, videos are made about that topic, people discuss smoother rides when they smalltalk about their last flight to their holiday destination... That is a sample size you simply can't ignore besides having math also proving the point of inertia. So why is this plane still thrown around sometimes? Again, physics. If the forces are strong enough, even an A380 will move. That doesn't mean that physics as a discipline is wrong and inertia doesn't exist. It simply means you didn't understand what inertia means. If an A380 is thrown around, imagine what would have happened to an A320. In this case, we probably have another Super landing beforehand creating enough disturbed air to upset the following Super. What would have happened to an A320? Actually we don't know because lighter aircraft are required to be given more spacing (7-8 NM instead of 6 depending on the weight of the aircraft). So even the entire aviation industry knows what inertia really is. I don't know what made you think that you were correct and where you have gotten the confidence to make a post which is just wrong. I don't get the psychology of people who spread misinformation and falsehoods as facts. I hope you learned something from my post. Good luck!
It really reminds one of the wing-tip feathers of birds of prey. This from Wikipedia: “The flexibility of the remiges on the wingtips of large soaring birds also allows for the spreading of those feathers, which helps to reduce the creation of wingtip vortices, thereby reducing drag.” On an A380 it’s a feature called LAF: load alleviation function. It’s designed in part to protect the airframe from premature fatigue from being flexed and also to improve aerodynamics.
It's relieving the outer wing of gust loads and levelling the aircraft, computer controlled based on sensors in the wing. The outer wing flexes a lot, Indeed Airbus could not use it for fuel tanks ..
@ashleydavis3342 let me help your ability to understand. The reason we drive the airplane on contaminated runway is to prevent hydroplaning and get the brakes working. The airplane touched down and the spoilers never came up, therefore the speebrake in the cockpit didn't move.
My uncle is a trucker and he always blares his peterbilt whenever I am walking and he drives by. and they make planes? fun! I mean, Ford made the trimotor...
I loved the horn as well it was brilliant didnt know light aircraft had them couldn't they have something a lot lot louder on the big passenger planes then if there an issue on landing o e long blast could mean emergency on board plane in flight two short blasts repeated after 15 seconds could mean hostage situation in that case the pilots as the hijackers hot in could have quickly given that signal over the live radio ATC would have had its last position and signal for hijack would it have prevented 9/11 I doubt it but if the powers that be reacted faster then and said to all other American airlines were going to get uou down whoever you are be it in a field on the roadway disused airfield Park etc I think it would have saved some lives on last plane to be hijacked you can't tell ne tgey coukdnt design some kind of horn on big passengers planes
Those split ailerons are very fascinating. They appear to move totally independently of each other, but it really works like this.. Inner aileron moves same time as outer, but twice as far, and middle aileron follows half second later. Seeing the full span spoilerons coming up means the pilot (or autopilot) was making some very large inputs.
@@uatech219 All of those surfaces are extremely far from the wing root (where the wing literally connects to the fuselage). Best info I can find is that it helps reduce wing twist (they actually lock out the outer aileron completely above 250 kts), and because they found the computers figured out this produced the best response in turbulence.
It’s called load alleviation function or LAF. It’s an A380 feature designed to reduce flex-induced fatigue on the wing by, as its name suggests, alleviating aerodynamic loads.
When im flying. And we land..for 30 years..before to leave the airplane. Take a few moments..and I always ❤️ always. Say to the flyers attendant. THANKS FOR THE SAFE FLITH..AND PLEASE SAY HELLO TO THE PILOTS AS WELL. And mannnnnyyy times I was so lucky to meet the pilots.in front of the door..anfurcenally..we just leave. And say nothing. To the team..but remember we are in there hands for hours..thank you pilots and the all team making my 30 years flying..safe❤
Trust me you notice in real life, I got into the a380 on seat 83A expecting it to be so quiet but you definetly hear them roar at takeoff. But obviously a lot quieter than the rattling 777
@@guidancefromjah Sorry dude hahah, I absolutely hate the 777 and I don’t even know why 😂 For me it has always been dissapointed as every time on a 777 we were supposed to be on an a380 😉 Thanks Emirates and Qatar 🥲
@@stevesmitherman2981 There is a video where the A380 actually touches down but due to extreme crosswind the plane would have jackknifed, so they had to abort at the very last minute - within a split second that plane was back fully in the air and soring off above the runway. [BRITISH AIRWAYS A380 GO AROUND HEATHROW AIRPORT - Evie Aviation]. I think in these emergency circumstances they are allowed to go full power for a few seconds - and that is a lot of power. "Maximum takeoff thrust is the highest level of power the engines can produce and is used during situations where the aircraft needs extra power for a short duration, such as during an aborted takeoff or an engine failure during takeoff. In the case of an emergency, pilots have the ability to apply full power, utilizing the engines' maximum takeoff thrust if necessary. This additional power can be crucial in emergency situations, helping the aircraft climb quickly or execute other maneuvers to ensure the safety of the flight. It's important to note that pilots are highly trained professionals who follow strict procedures provided by the aircraft manufacturer and aviation authorities. They have the knowledge and experience to make decisions regarding engine thrust, ensuring the safety of the passengers and the aircraft. "
What emergency? It takes no power to pull the nose up and initiate a climb if you have the proper airspeed. It does take an increase in thrust to keep climbing, but not much of that available for an airplane at landing weight. There is a lot less drama here than you guys want to see.
I’m sorry you obviously have no idea. When you apply power the aircraft still sinks especially if in the landing configuration before climbing. The point people are making is that it’s incredible a 400ton airliner can respond and climb with such ease. The go around is to prevent the “emergency”!
@@stevesmitherman2981 LOL. I'm sorry but you are the one with no idea. First of all you are mixing apples with oranges. I was talking about immediately pulling the nose up, and you are talking about applying power before pulling the nose up. If you don't pull the nose up and just add thrust, yes the airplane will continue to descend for a time. If you pull the nose up, no it will not continue to descend, at least until decelerates because you never added power. The size of the airliner doesn't matter, they are all designed to the same standards and heavier ones have larger wings for a reason. Declining to accept a substandard landing is not an emergency.
@matthewbanks9689 hopefully, the audio missed the part where the captain says ladies (and gentlemen) .... but ya never know .... Ha, if audio was clipped at the start, it just shows how something can be so easily taken out of context.
Putting horns on any contraption where it doesn't belong is just genius . There's a guy who put a motorcycle horn on a drone, it's so annoying it has the power to channel every little brother in the world. If your little brother suddenly has a stare and a smile, you know honking drone is out there doing ts business!
Looking at that A380 wing's control surfaces doing their thing like a huge mechanical bird, it's like nature and technology ended up with the same convergent evolution.
gotta give ultimate credits and respect to the pilot at the very end transitioning from a very shaky approach to a perfectly smooth touchdown. Impressive
That pilot on the A380 explained the situation so clearly and well. I once flew on Turkish Airlines on approach to SFO and we had a go around. The pilot said something but it was very unclear and I had no idea what he said.
That might look nice and feel nice to the passengers, but I wouldn't be really happy as a passenger as it is less safe than a firm touchdown (but still safer than a bounce).
Here to just explain the first clip a bit more! This is a common occurrence on Runway 30L in Dubai, this is mainly because of two things, 1) Dubai is very strict on 3nm not much more separation because of how busy it is 2) The wind often comes over the Hangar you could see and causes wake turbulence, this is why you sometimes will have a bumpy landing there. and if your asking how i know this or questioning me, my Father is ATC at DXB and I know a crap ton of Emirates pilots :)
regarding the last video, i don’t know how safe it is to perform a smooth landing on a snow contaminated runway. usually in this conditions you want to perform medium/hard landings so that the landing gear physically moves the snow out of the way so that the tyres can better grip on the runway
I always ♥️ always for the last 30 years of flying before to leave the plane .I always stop for a few minutes and say to the team THANK YOU FOR THE SAFE FLITH..AND PLEASE SAY HELLO TO THE FAMILY AND TO THE PILOTS. MAAANNY TIMES I WAS LUCKY TO MEET THE PILOTS. was an honor for me to meet them as well ❤PLEASE REMEMBER for a few hours all this team was the one. Who makes our life safe...ALWAYS PLEASE 🙏 SAY THSNK YOU ❤❤❤
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Its better to make a positive landing to avoid skidding and also in this case the plane floated a while which ofcourse becomes more of an issue with shorter runways.
@@TB-um1xz this is a B737. The TR is available when the aircraft is below 10 feet radar altitude. The airplane doesn’t even have to be on the ground. The ground spoilers also get triggered by wheel spin up, however, if this doesn’t happen due to hydroplaning, the right strut compression will deploy them. I’ve never had issues with ground spoilers not deploying. Especially since deployment of the TRs, will compress the right strut, due to deceleration, which will settle the aircraft on its struts. Besides, you can still manually deploy the spoilers. That’s part of the briefing when landing in these kind of conditions.
The main danger of hydroplaning is not the failure of the spoilers to activate but the loss of control and increase of landing distance required, smooth touchdown on contaminated runways should be avoided always
Weird thing my dad was in on this plane ( the emirates ) and when he spoke to the captain he said that there was no wind at all but the plane went back up safe travels to everyone and happy summer!
To clarify without diminishing the expertise of pilots: No aircraft larger or heavier than the A380 landing at Dubai Airport can create wake turbulence for another A380. This is scientifically implausible. Aircraft heavier than the A380 do not land at Dubai Airport. Furthermore, a heavier A380 cannot generate wake turbulence that would affect a lighter A380. If this were the case, every lighter type of aircraft and the heavier of same type, would require separation, ie. lighter A320 and heavier A320, which is neither feasible nor practiced. Another reason behind such incidents, which can occur during sunrise landings at any airport, could be the natural shift in wind direction caused by sea breezes or land breezes. This sudden change, particularly at low altitudes, from headwind to tailwind, is common at airports near the sea or ocean, Pilots are highly trained to manage these conditions. Such wind shifts can challenge even the most skilled approaches to cause a go-around.
I experienced a similar incident about 30 years ago. I was on a B737 on final approach to Oakland International Airport in California. We were so close to the water that I saw the famous restaurant near the water’s edge seen from the right side of the plane. Then we heard a very loud “SWOOOSH!” sound and our plane suddenly lost altitude! Had we been flying lower the pilots might have had to change their underwear! It happened so suddenly that no passenger even had a chance to react to the incident. Luckily the pilots regained control of the plane and we landed safely. One of the pilots said over the p.a. that we hit the wake turbulence of a B727 that was landing ahead of us. Unforgettable experience! 😢😅
@@OptiCAyaaN99 Dirty air produced by other aircraft which has landed or taken off prior to the affected one. It could also happen between two aircraft while both flying!
@@OptiCAyaaN99 Just to clarify, by "dirty air" the other poster means choppy, swirling vortexes of air, or the aeronautical equivalent of a wake made by a boat.
Yeah exactly, anything smaller would have been tossed around like a ping pong ball. I wonder if the preceding plane was another Super? The announcement was calm and professional, but I do wonder if the mention of “a little more separation” was a slight hint of annoyance with ATC.
A380’s seem far more prone to wake turbulence than other aircraft. It doesn’t help having the Royal Air Wing hangar next to the touchdown zone from which wake vortices bounce back towards the runway.
Notice that from 0:23 to 0:30 are the country’s sheikh’s aircraft’s standing in the ramp… so rare to see them flying or in the ground yk.😅 it’s like a private jet for them.
1:37 That's really "stunning" when it happens over your rural home because big city dwellers don't want to hear it and force airlines to throttle back before getting near the airport.
A very smooth landing on a snow, water, or ice covered runway is actually a bad thing. Most runway overruns follow a “smooth” landing. Boeing (and no doubt Airbus) likes the landing to be positive (firm).
