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Whoa whoa whoa, I didn't know about this Conscientious Objector with full honorable discharge! Would you please pin some info about that? Thank you so much for this heads-up!
PARTY FOR PEACE 🕊️ Focus on the solution SIR: *Govt by Referenda 70/30 split.* By Mascot Party or *Velvet Revolution* Single Issue Referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. A Public Authority can audit police and prosecute bad cops in our own courts. Nationalise resources and give Indigenous peoples the right of Sovereignty over them as Guardians. This can be achieved through a General Strike or Velvet Revolution, much like the Occupy movement, peacefully occupying State Buildings until a People's Mandate can be implemented. With the appropriate checks and balances, we could have a national digital forum where qualified professionals can debate the issues in a public setting without all the disinformation and bad faith antics, hatespeech etc. Any vote would need to pass the 70% threshold, with a veto or _rewrite_ vote needing 30%. The issues would be debated, the public educated, and then a vote taken. Votes that fail will have to wait a year before trying again. Any new proposal (Citizen Initiated Referendum) would have to reach a threshold of support before it made it onto the register. This would be subject to a Social Contract (New Constitution) that forbids human rights abuses and discrimination. That can be written in the same manner based on the core principles we all share. Councils and Boards could operate in the same fashion at Scale. It works in a way that obligates people to better educate themselves ( that is to use logic and evidence in their reasoning ) for a better understanding of the issues, and then take collective responsibility for the outcomes. As opposed to the divisive US v them scapegoating and bi-partisan finger pointing the current Capitalist Pyramid Scheme runs on. We need Government by People's Referenda, either through Mascot Candidates or Peaceful Occupation of the Capitals until one is established. Make it an annual March on Oct 14. Take back the Temples under a single white flag! 🏳️ #DECOLONISE 🕊️
@@ThunderAppeal Neither are they mentioning the thousands of palestinian hostages held for years/decades (and tortured) in israeli prisons. Have you noticed that?
@@johnknight8152 He was Lithuainian been in Red Army , captured. They made him an offer he could not refuse !!! So he joined "Them" captured again. Came to England as POW. Could not go back home as he would be shot as a Traitor. So stayed as a "displaced person". Many ended up working in the Coal mines here in the North West of England as he did. My Dad was in the Free French Navy. Funny old World Eh !??.
An Angel who walked amongst men. He left a clear message in uniform to those serving in the military to do the concienteous, the humane and the right thing by all measures. Nothing is worth trading your God given soul for, certainly not for savage, brutal mass murderers of children in the tens of thousands. Likely hundreds of thousands. God bless Buschnell. A light onto us all.
I was so naive, for some reason I thought that we would be on the good side in WWIII And definitely didn't see so much political support for an outright genocide
Don't blame yourself. Our propaganda machine isbtop notch. Easily in the top three in the world. Most of us thought similar things we're embarrassed about.
@@donHooliganI didnt know about either if those until I was well unto adulthood. Gladio, because it was mentioned in an episode of _Archer_ once, so I did some Googling.
We were on the wrong side of WW2. Unfortunately the truth is buried and censored. History is written by the winners. In some countries, questioning the holy hoax is a crime; people have been jailed, and now the populations self-censored. The same lies repeated over and over are believed without question.
What if there were a war... ...and nobody came. What are you? A hippie? They didn't kill every hippie. Some survived. Peace and love. Isn't that the code? Take the "medicine". Have the "experience". Drop out of this madness. Turn your back on it and forget your parents lied to you. Yep. Your parents. Your grandparents. They all LIED to you about G-o-d. They "packaged" God and fed it to you as religion. And religion is a farce. Religion? Look what they do in the name of their stupid religions. God never left. God is listening in on the words that are being spoken to you... ...n-o-w. Right now. Can you HEAR me? Jesus is coming. Hang on for a bit longer. That's all for now. vaya con Dios.
US service members did not swear an oath to defend Israel. We all see where this is headed and not one US service member should be forced to step foot into this conflict.
I was thinking about Aaron lately and we continue to talk about him and never forget his sacrifice....thank you for shedding light on Aaron through your journalism. Thank you
@@Naturewalkingthrough 10,000 of them at last count! More than 70 percent held without charges! Sometimes for more than 10 years! Such a gross human injustice! Add to that all the torture and sexual abuse that has been documented going on in those Israeli military prisons!
It is "illegal"...but no one holds israel accountable for anything. JFK tried to inspect dimona and they killed him over it. Israel has nukes but denies anyone to inspect them. And they cry that Iran wants to build nukes...not even true. Iran enriches for energy. They literally issued a statement years ago that nuclear weapons are harm and they will never build any.
Watch "the other great game" for what you did to 'close ally' Britain and the poverty we are still in thanks to you - we were only allowed to recover (kind of) once we agreed to move to fascism and all benefits started to go to the rich, not the workers
@@arostwocents coming from an American citizen. The government and the people are two different things. Propaganda is Americas overpowered weapon of destruction.
Its what I find more disgusting. Being told to support another state's genocide plot that the US government is full-throatily backing. I applaud the veteran protest.
President Bashar Al-Assad said that the Jews "who came to Palestine," are pagan converts from Khazars, and not the People of Israel, in a December 18, 2023 speech posted on Syrian Arab news Agency on RU-vid. He said that there is no evidence that six million Jews died in the Holocaust and that the Nazis did not employ a special method of torture or killing for the Jews, who were killed just like other victims of World War Il. Al-Assad continued to say that the Holocaust was "politicized" and used as a false pretext to transfer the Jews from Europe to Palestine. He also claimed that America was the one who supported the rise of the Nazi in Germany between the world wars.
and Israel is also pushing a fusion with the far right in Europe, a judeo-christian alliance against muslims. Germany has a new law for those applying for citizenship to acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
I've also been seeing more and more active duty, and fellow veterans voice their disapproval with the support for the ethnic cleansing in Gaza. Im glad many im the military community are waking up.
@@joeoreilly1479 genocide in Gaza is extremely important but in case they US soldier is indoctrinated to be Anti-Palestinian, they need to know how Israel feels about them as well.
After Vietnam - I'm still surprised anyone would like to fight in the military. After Iraq and Afghanistan for sure it must be really strange to still want to fight in the military. Obviously those fights were not for the security or honor of the US - pure business and warmongering. Business for the weapon industry and of course stealing oil.
Makes me feel ill when I hear locals talk about military and how they're protecting freedom. NO. It's a crock. They're ensuring cheap oil among other profit driven enterprises. Sickening
The likes of Aaron Bushnell, Sir Mike Prysner, Code Pink, University Students who camped in School Campuses and many more are the Americans that make USA a Great Country just like before. Thank you very much Sir Mike and to rest of your company.
The people you Name, here, @datumonircalim2116 , are a Collective , with Extreme *DIVERSITY* ... one that can bring an *Evil Man's Perverted AMBITIONS* to *NOUGHT* ...
I *mean* to say... *There They Are* ! The *Smartest Folks on EARTH* ! (what are they doing? Saving the Planet, maybe?) err... { *WHAT* ?} *BASHING ARABS* ...
I even met *This ONE GUY* who just straight up *DEBASED Himself* . by *SUPPORTING HIS OWN PMs MRRDRR* ! (now, IDFK if *That's what they DO, in the Old Country* or not... You need to Agree that the FECKLESS JEW represents himself as a *SUPERIOR* to everyone Else... Or Do You? )... The Last time anything like that happened, in Your Loan Officer's Country, was in *1963*. with the great *JACK KENNEDY* ... Women CRIED. Men CRIED. Kids CRIED. why? bc Some Ck Skkr done *SH0T THE PRESIDENT* ! Today, mister *YourNameIsNowACurse* , has the Raw TeenAge BALLZ to , well, *SUPPORT POLITICAL ASSASSINATION* ! for *REAL* ! Not Playing *D&D* ! hey there, *You KNOWXACTLYWTFYOUARE* ... you're gonna GO, Buddy... where? Nowhere! *SENSIBLE JUDAISM SHALL SPIT YOU OUT* ...
@@ilovereadingthehistoryofUSAinc isreal treats it's indigenous peoples -the palestinians more horribly than the US treats it's indigenous native americans. In fact, their treatment of their indigenous palestinians is the most horrible of any country that has an indigenous population. Isreal is a sociopathic state. Sociopaths can not feel for other people. That's isreal.
I agree, Navy veteran here. Although I did not quit over Gaza; I turns my stomach to see the US military involved in this GENOCIDE and it devoids our military service of any honor or respectability
It's all good. No one will even remember his name in 6 months. Or if they do, it will be because he was proof the military got so woke, they let mentally unstable people in.
I’m afraid that ship has sailed. America was founded on genocide and has never shied away from the occasional genocide in order to gain or maintain their global power. If I’m not mistaken, about 600 million lives were already taken for the interest of the American Empire before the last iteration of Israel’s brutal occupation.
Sad to see so much junk passing for facts. The true genocide is being done by Hamas and Hezbollah not Israel not the USA. Palestine has always been Israel it got renamed that by the Romans to insult the Israelis over 1000 years ago. Israelites still live in the area people keep pushing as Palestine. So do Christians. And have all along.
Boom I've been trying to tell people this for a while. Look at the word used to describe white European Jews. Look at the last four letters. Look at the history of Zionism in Germany. And where Hitler got his campaign money from.
I would write the word but it won't let me on RU-vid so you'll have to Google it and read the history of Zionism in Germany. And the result of the Nuremberg trials and where the money for Hitler's campaign came from.
@@72marshflower15 correct so refreshing to hear somebody. Besides me that figured that out. Crazy thing is the agreement was to acquire Palestine and re-establish Israel. And they accomplished it. Did you also noticed the word used to describe white Jews and what the last four letters spell.
@@ThunderAppeal No mention, from you, of the release of the thousands of Palestinians Israel holds hostage, some for ten years or more, in disgusting conditions including torture, sexual assault and daily degradations.
@@ThunderAppeal If you recall, back in January it was reported globally that a large group of IDF soldiers tragically died when the demolition charges they were placing on a residential building detonated. After the incident, Bibi Netanyahu met with the families of the deceased soldiers to pay his respects. "How could this happen?" they asked him. "You sent our sons, our husbands, off to fight and now we learn that dozens of them are gone in an instant!". "Yes," Bibi replied, "it is an unbearable tragedy. Our brave army suffered a historic loss. But I wanted to be the first to tell you: I have learned from our IDF chain of command that the soldiers were able to serve their country patriotically. Even in death they succeeded in accomplishing their military objective! Their sacrifice was not in vain, and they will be remembered for all time." "This is some relief" - the families responded - "Tell us Bibi, what heroic accomplishment did they achieve?". With a satisfied smile, Bibi triumphantly replied: "They went viral."
My name is Aaron Bushnell and I am an active duty member in the US Airforce. I am to enage in an extreme act of protest. But compared to what the people in Gaza have been suffering at the hands of their colonizers, it's not extreme at all. FREE PALESTINE! FREE PALESTINE! FREE PALESTINE!
Wars is about money and who controls the money printing press. United States only had buying power because we had war power. You only get free stuff because the wars gave buying power and say over trade routes. It’s always about wealth ,because wealth is health. I always vote for less wars, but even Obama made war on Libya and Syria , and that gave more buying power to the dollar, for a short time.
This is huge. These active duty personnel are a inspiration for all of us. They did not enlist to serve Israel and corporations, they want to serve and protect this constitution and the people of this country.
I'm a veteran... left the military in August 8th 2001. Only 4 weeks before 911. Very lucky. I'm Muslim, and after Friday prayers we would discuss how difficult it was to be Muslims In the military when virtually all our wars are directed toward Muslims. It influenced me to not renew my contract. That decision was the greatest luckiest move that potentially saved my life. Thank God. Furthermore, months after getting out, I saw numerous close military colleagues in local news reported killed in helicopter crashes, gorilla ambushes, and IED's.
I'm also a veteran who got out shortly after the Gulf war... I never knew any Muslims when I served I didn't become Christian till a decade or so ago. You shouldn't have had a difficult time practicing what you believe... Keep your head up stand your ground and fight for what you believe a seeking heart will always find God. Inshallah
_"All People's have the right to self defence from Colonial rule, including armed resistance"_ UN Charter: Protocol 1 Call for Government by People's Referenda: Peaceful Encampment of our Capitals until it's installed, or run Mascot Candidates Single Issue Referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. A Public Authority can audit police and prosecute bad cops in our own courts. Nationalise resources and give Indigenous peoples the right of Sovereignty over them as Guardians. This can be achieved through a General Strike or Velvet Revolution, much like the Occupy movement, peacefully occupying State Buildings until a People's Mandate can be implemented. With the appropriate checks and balances, you could have a national digital forum where qualified professionals can debate the issues in a public setting without all the disinformation and bad faith antics, hatespeech etc. Any vote would need to pass the 70% threshold, with a veto or _rewrite_ vote needing 30%. The issues would be debated, the public educated, and then a vote taken. Votes that fail will have to wait a year before trying again. Any new proposal (Citizen Initiated Referendum) would have to reach a threshold of support before it made it onto the register. This would be subject to a Social Contract (New Constitution) that forbids human rights abuses and discrimination. That can be written in the same manner based on the core principles we all share. Councils and Boards could operate in the same fashion at Scale. It works in a way that obligates people to better educate themselves ( that is to use logic and evidence in their reasoning ) for a better understanding of the issues, and then take collective responsibility for the outcomes. As opposed to the divisive US v them scapegoating and bi-partisan finger pointing the current Capitalist Pyramid Scheme runs on. Enough is enough We need a Party of Peace: Government by People's Referenda, either through Mascot Candidates or Peaceful Encampment of the Capitals until one is established. Make it an annual March on Oct 14 Under a single white flag 🏳️ You can copy/share 🙏 It's about Peace and Democracy; don't give them anything to twist Done without shouting or banners, this strategy cannot be stopped once in motion It's time to #DECOLONISE 🕊️
MAY EACH ONE BE BLESSED IN THIER LIVES FOR THE COURAGE TO STAND AGAINST THIS GENOCIDE. !! THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE AND TO HAVE THAT SERVICE MEAN SOMETHING!! BLESS YOU ALL !!
This is wonderful news. If this Administration wants to continue escalating this war, then they should have their own children and/or grandchildren sent off to Ukraine before expecting our young military soldiers to fight this proxy war the U.S. and NATO instigated.
This segment points us to how deep the iceberg of heartlessness is in the US. There are still GIs from Vietnam committing suicide. My brother was drafted in 1968 and while an MP in Vietnam was jailed for declaring himself a conscientious objector, not just to his situation in this war, but to war as a solution. When he returned home he had basically been destroyed as a human being -- like millions of other vets of any war. And, incidentally, notwithstanding mind-crippling medications and faithful attendance at "therapy" sessions at the VA, there is no cure. The mood, the spirit, the quality of life in the entire American society has been damaged irreversibly by warfare and all it entails. What I observed in my brother was a trauma so deep that death itself is the only possible escape, because he had to live for fifty years with the full awareness of what his own country had done to him and to those friends who suffered and died, and needlessly. They say they do not know what causes memory loss and early senility, but it is obvious. Fighting is one thing, but high-tech warfare eliminates the consciousness of what you are doing. Most soldiers would not do what they are doing if they knew what their weapons were doing to all the human beings they cannot look in the eye. My brother's case was compounded by exposure to chemical weapons used by the US in Vietnam. So he died the death of ten thousand cuts over the fifty years until he finally took his own life. American society rejected him after he held up a mirror to those adapted, compromised, to it. No one could face what we had done, and obviously are still doing to this day, for money and ego.
John, I am so sorry for what your brother and his family went through and I am only privilaged and honoured to know the story of such a beautiful being as your brother.
Donald Sutherland was a Canadian who opposed US policy in VietNam, just as was Neil Young who wrote and sang Ohio, the iconic song about the deaths of four Ohio State University students shot and killed by national Guard troops, which he blamed on US president Nixonto the agreement of most Americans.
It isn't because the US have been helping perpetuate it on both sides, this is a religious war they want Jews, Christains & Islam to wipe each other out, then everyone is next. This is bigger than you can possibly imagine, Satan is working on many fronts, your all too stupid to see that.
It's not only those who are applying for CO or going AWOL. There are also those who are not going to re-enlist, have decided to retire and those who will never encourage not only their own children, but any others to enlist in the military. There was already a 30% drop in enlistments before this horror started that the US is absolutely complicit in. This will only increase that number. As a USAF veteran who continued as a civilian on Aerospace and Defense contracts, I faced my own crises of conscience at seeing what the US is not only supporting but giving diplomatic protection to. I was shaken to my core, as I had this childlike faith that this nation would be fighting against what is happening in Gaza and the occupied West Bank, not supplying weapons for it. It's crushing when you look back at your life's work thinking you were supporting a somewhat righteous nation, when in fact you put your life and health on the line for greed and special interests and in one way or another you have the blood of the innocent on your hands.
Thank you for serving with the intent to give your best !! It's not your fault that the country we love has allowed itself to be soulless, GREEDY, and void of what we saw as the best country on the planet for our HUMANITY and caring for our fellow man !! We have all been deceived and it's heartbreaking! IMO !!
Aaron Bushnell. Unbelievable. It doesnt matter what WE could or could never do. That fact remains, he did it, and called out to Free Palestine whole burning. Shocking hero.
I’m also a service member and it pains me seeing our politicians putting other countries over America . They need to care for us first . We are not monsters, our politicians are .
Military recruitment has been having problems. Things will probably go from bad to disasterous. I would not be surprised if the draft was being discussed. I read where that U.S. Army recruitment was 20% below required levels. When I enlisted, I thought I was serving American security. Information becomes more and more accessible and informed people make wiser decisions.
FYI, the house if representatives already introduced a bill for mandatory draft selection , including girls. I havent heard about the Senate voting on it. But they're already gearing up for a draft. We can hope they draft the immigrants and send them all overseas ...... but they won't go, they're here for freebies, not participation in decent society
@@williamragernot a draft, we all have to sign up for selective service or run the risk of legal trouble. I do agree it's a step in the wrong direction though.
It should be law that if the US is involved in any conflict that every kid and grandkid old enough of congressmen should be required to fight infantry on the front lines for the duration.
Yes I wondered how long our service members were going to keep buying the lie that they're supporting democracy and freedom? I'm so glad people in the military are waking up to this.
Bravo conscientious objectors everywhere! In and out of the military! When will the factory workers who makes these bombs boycott their own place of work?
Why one should be blamed and go to the hell for the Wrong Doing of another,,,, They are the real soldiers who quit for justice and are against genocide in Gaza,,, real soldiers fight for Great purpose of humanity and dignity of mankind but not for destruction and disrespect of the mankind,,, ,,,,Salute you soldiers for your moral victory,,,,,
I have the utmost respect for the servicemen walking away from the immoral wars going on in the world. If we all stood and said NO! Threw down our guns and looked for a better way. World peace being our priority. Old men make money and young men die! what a waste. Don’t let greed be reason.
Thank you for the informative show. Keep going. We need soldiers to link up with UAW local 4811 and UAW labour for Palestine. Unity of the workers, soldiers and youth is central to end the genocide. Also we need a political alternative to the Dems and Republicans. Please consider
Isn't it the duty of people in the military to defend the country against all harmful forces foreign and domestic? If domestic leadership is viewed as the harm, makes sense for a person in the military to object. In fact, seems to me it is the duty actually, to object. Particularly in a democracy.
