Aaron Smith-Levin: Scientology | Lex Fridman Podcast

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Aaron Smith-Levin is a former Scientologist, Vice President of the Aftermath Foundation, and host of the Growing Up In Scientology RU-vid channel. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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0:00 - Introduction
1:21 - Thetans
5:19 - Dianetics
17:22 - God
27:58 - Sea Org
32:08 - Auditing
52:21 - Control
1:02:45 - David Miscavige
1:11:52 - Xenu
1:27:46 - Secrecy
1:33:49 - Mike Rinder
1:40:56 - Separation of families
1:47:51 - Tom Cruise
1:51:43 - Sin
1:56:39 - Corruption
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@lexfridman Год назад

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Green Chef: greenchef.com/lex60 and use code lex60 to get 60% off plus free shipping - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil 1:21 - Thetans 5:19 - Dianetics 17:22 - God 27:58 - Sea Org 32:08 - Auditing 52:21 - Control 1:02:45 - David Miscavige 1:11:52 - Xenu 1:27:46 - Secrecy 1:33:49 - Mike Rinder 1:40:56 - Separation of families 1:47:51 - Tom Cruise 1:51:43 - Sin 1:56:39 - Corruption

@austinfriend359 Год назад

true words a pod for the Dawgs

@Mr.Market777 Год назад

SCIENTISTOLOGY IS FUCKING TRASH AND THEY KIDNAP PEOPLE (my friends family was kidnapped and he attacked 2 people that were holding them and got them out). ITS PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE they STEAL YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS and more…

@Mr.Market777 Год назад

THEATAN SOUNDS ALOT LIKE SATAN

@ClairesMyth Год назад

So glad you are interviewing Aaron Levin-Smith!!

@futures2247 Год назад

its such a shame scientology is what it is - it seems you can believe in bat shit ideas YET be absolutely correct in your critique of certain cultural issues especially psychiatry and drug companies.

@albatross5466 Год назад

As Dave Chapelle says, " I make fun of everyone, white, black, straight, gay, trans, Christian, Jew, Muslin and I will make fun of the Scientologists as soon as I have a better legal defense team."

@nicksprofile Год назад

That’s hilarious

@MartiniGTGP Год назад

That is iconically hilarious

@nicksprofile Год назад

@@MartiniGTGP really had to one up my comment?

@MartiniGTGP Год назад

@@nicksprofile 😂😂😂 good day sir

@CivilWarz Год назад

That's amazingly funny

@Southerncomfort420 9 месяцев назад

I have so much respect for Aaron, he is literally saving people from a life of horror.. And please give him a break he deals with his pain and trauma through laughter Lex.

@katiecannon8186 9 месяцев назад

Utterly bizarre that Lex is trying to control Aaron’s emotions after all Aaron’s been through. Ironic & shows a high level of need for control Lex has. Ironic

@billjones8503 9 месяцев назад

I don't think Lex was reallyunfeeling. He did hand him the tissues, but yes I agree he could have been a little more range to vent. Lex is a journalist, & he stayed neutral.

@spaztor7723 8 месяцев назад

your all mental

@joanpascal7745 7 месяцев назад

Lex is not for me. Totally turn off. Ty😢😮

@roddo1955 7 месяцев назад

@@katiecannon8186Lex is a phoney. It's a gaslighting technique . He does it in a lot of interviews. Allows the interviewee to speak freely and then unexpectedly 'correct them' whilst in the middle of a train of thought. It breaks momentum and draws attention back to the interviewer. 'Oh sorry to interrupt but if you could not swear.../ Excuse me but some viewers might be vegan/ I didn't mean to cut you off but my best friend is paraplegic and blind..can you not use the words 'movement and vision', please?...go ahead with your story." Piss off, Lex. I only listened to this because of Aaron and all the tea he's spilling. And his head. I like his head. It's shiny.

@plutothree1 Год назад

Lex Friedman is not the first RU-vid host to get butt-hurt about Aaron having a sense of humor about Scientology. I think the sense of humor is healthy and has helped Aaron cope well with what was a rough set of experiences in Scientology. He grew up in that system. He spent many many years studying Scientology precepts. Aaron has every right to laugh at what he now sees as the irony and ridiculousness of those precepts. It doesn't mean he doesn't have a thorough understanding of them. Lighten up, Lex. Aaron's experience is his experience. He doesn't have to act like an intellectual snotnose or a hostage victim in order to competently discuss these ideas!

@nevaminddd 10 месяцев назад

Perfectly said

@alltaira5922 10 месяцев назад

I wouldn't call Lex butt hurt as Aaron does talk mockingly/flippantly about Scientology beliefs. Yes, the church is a harmful cult, though some of the underlying beliefs have value. Mocking another's beliefs is no way to get through to them. Just as Aaron came across the message board and it didn't resonate with him, neither will this disrespectful manner.

@tehmodestmouse6275 9 месяцев назад

@@alltaira5922I find what lex did pre planned and he showed his hand too quick.

@phat-kid 9 месяцев назад

he didn't get butthurt. he's trying to have a mature conversation. it's sad that people don't know how to debate without getting emotional. lex does know how to debate properly. that's what he was doing.

@katiecannon8186 9 месяцев назад

@@alltaira5922 What underlying beliefs of Scientology have “value” - according to both you & Lex? And is it ok that someone disagrees with your feelings regarding this?

@minervacuervo4662 11 месяцев назад

“As long as they destroy families that way, that’s a cult” - Aaron Smith-Levin 2023

@cartergomez5390 8 месяцев назад

Wow 😮

@kristylisak.3310 5 месяцев назад

facts

@PiplupPlus 2 месяца назад

Scientology makes families stronger

@Anonymous-uw4sr 22 дня назад

@@PiplupPlus🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

@grahamwillox Год назад

Never really been caught up in the Scientology interest but this has to be in Lex’s top 5 podcasts. Such an honest heart wrenching story. Aaron giving credit where it’s due when others would be bitter and mean. Aaron deserves such acclaim for his work to bring out the truth.

@PamelaH_HappyVibes Год назад

I have learned so much from his RU-vid channel. It is mind blowing.

@adab9959 9 месяцев назад

@@wldncrzy1971I kind of noticed this as well. This was my first Lex podcast. I don’t mind the “taking seriously” of a conversation or thought, but Lex must also (in my opinion) remember that he is speaking to an ex-cult member who may be triggered by some of his comments. Just a thought🤷🏻‍♀️

@snausagesmcqueef1604 9 месяцев назад

@@wldncrzy1971 could not agree more. The idea that Lex sits there with someone who has escaped a cult and then condescends to nitpick the way that that person copes with their experiences says really unimpressive things about his character.

@AndrewGold1 Год назад

Love my friend Aaron Smith-Levin. He's such a hard working guy and does so much good for the community, and helping people leave scientology. He'll go from strength to strength. Thanks for interviewing him Lex.

@thesearchfortruth2752 Год назад

I love both yours and Aaron’s channel! Keep up the excellent content Andrew ❤

@dixie5042 Год назад

Agreed. All of you are fantastic and do a huge service exposing these destructive cults.

@neli.a Год назад

Keep up the good fight Andrew! Both you & Aaron are doing good work/driving Zenu’s favorite homunculus insane. 😂

@LiterallyLisa1 Год назад

Lex should interview you, Andrew. Your vast knowledge of all things cults, narcissism, psychopathy, would be intriguing to listen to.

@lllllloooooo Год назад

Your channel is also amazing Mr Gold 😁👍

@trose22k 7 месяцев назад

This guy has done so much for the city of Clearwater Florida my hometown. He really is a stand up guy. Very thankful for all the work he does especially here in Pinellas County Florida. 👍

@daveeyes 5 месяцев назад

I love it when A PLAN comes together! - Geirge

@milart12 Год назад

I have heard a lot of Scientologists discuss these issues before, but this guy gives the clearest idea of what it is all about.

@anca6702 Год назад

I love Aaron's channel and I have zero connection with Scientology but I still think shining as much light as possible on this dangerous cult is so important!

@geekdivaherself Год назад

You said everything that I would say. Just when I think I've gotten into it too much, there are more angles being brought out and more evidence and events coming up that shows me that I'm not burned out learning from Aaron about it yet. And I just came here from Mark Headley's chanel Blown for Good (also the name of his book) which is Scientology speak for leaving Scientology for good, which he and his wife did and kind of a spy-thriller mode that he details in his book and audiobook.

@katrinat.3032 Год назад

Same here. I have no connection to Scientology. But I’ve been watching Mike Rinder, Marc Headley and Aaron Smith-Levin and all their channels for some time now. It’s interesting and I feel like it helps me with critical thinking, but also to understand what other people have been through

@roux2689 Год назад

Absolutely. I have no connection; however, completely supportive of the cause💜💜💜

@bethotoole6569 Год назад

@@roux2689 Exactly!!

@frankygers Год назад

Same here. I skip some of his posts as they aren’t as interesting as others. In a respectable way. But he’s a vital voice online.

@roxy5154 Год назад

Well, that was nothing short of awesome. Top interviewer, top interviewee. As an ex-Scientologist I have to say Aaron absolutely nailed every question with the same reality I have on the subject. In Aaron's defense on the whole 'Bravery' thing, I posit that at the end of the day, it is his KNOWLEDGE of the organization, and what little power they have over ex members (besides tearing your family and networks apart) that makes it so easy to speak up - not bravery. He has no fear of them; therefore, bravery doesn't even come into it. Thank you, guys, I am over a decade out, yet that was so cathartic and therapeutic. Wow!

@geekdivaherself Год назад

Well said and well done.

@katrinat.3032 Год назад

So glad you are out. Knowledge is power. And AAron is providing people with knowledge every time he speaks.

@Huckster2367 Год назад

I hope you come back. I love Sea Org.

@whooptydoo6256 Год назад

@@Huckster2367🤖🖖nanew nanew

@roxy5154 Год назад

@@Huckster2367 I prefer Jon Atack's Sea Org motto; "We go away".

@blakereed1654 Год назад

I hated watching him be in so much pain, but it’s nothing short of inspiring to listen to his story and what he’s overcome.

@sandralybrand9425 7 месяцев назад

I think the tears are always just below the surface in Aaron because his pain is so deep. He has to use humor or he'd be a mess 90% of the time , as you witness how quick the tears come no matter how many times he tells his story. If you notice,every one of the people that have a channel on UTube, they all laugh alot and use humor. It helps them deal with those deep wounds that will never go away! Just about All have had their family disown them for the Cult!😢😢

@hollymcdowell2865 11 месяцев назад

Every time Aaron chokes up I get chills and begin to cry myself. I didn’t have his same exact struggle but control/cult like behavior is so relatable. We’ve all struggle in one way or another but his is beyond relatable to me.

@thevegandragon4676 Год назад

I don't care what he says, Aaron is one brave dude for having the courage to get himself and his beautiful family out of there, and forge a new and healthy beginning....truly awesome. Thank you guys

@ph8621 Год назад

Seems like Aaron deals with his trauma through laughter. He's a good soul!

@CourtneyPfetzer Год назад

Exactly! This guy is a jerk! Like don't tell Aaron his life, he already lived it.

@whahappend8222 Год назад

@@CourtneyPfetzer I don't think he was intentionally trying to be condescending, but yeah, telling a guy not to trivialize something he took seriously for decades is pretty quaint.

@MrJayehawk Год назад

@@whahappend8222 - Agreed. I generally like Lex and he's a decent interviewer but did seem a bit miffed in the first portion of the interview if Aaron chuckled about anything as he explained it. As though he didn't think Aaron was taking the subject seriously enough, despite it being his own life and experiences he was describing.

@MrCGangsta Год назад

or he is lying and deceiving you

@ph8621 Год назад

Lex finally figured it out in the end. Lex is very serious. A A Ron deals with his trauma in a light-hearted way. AAron is a very upbeat yet extremely intelligent person. Lex caught on.

@SDcatlover1 Год назад

This is the second time I have watched this episode in full…amazing job, Aaron 👏

@perrinconsolati3455 Год назад

Really Lex??? Giving him shit for mocking something he knows more about than you ever will. Scientology is absolutely NUTS! and him mocking it it's damn well deserved. I lost something in watching that with you. I know it won't matter, yet feel I needed to say so

@semaj13 6 месяцев назад

shut up man, not even a man

@marceypoeckes1968 3 месяца назад

I agree

@DaveLivesInACave 3 месяца назад

I’ve seen a lot of comments like this, kind of defending this guy from lex like he isn’t already mentally strong as fuck. I think lex is just trying to put himself into the mind of someone who isn’t capable of seeing it as a joke but rather something serious.

@annunziata7781 Год назад

I've only seen Aaron positive. I was not prepared for that. My Heart BROKE for him. Keep the faith, Aaron. Never stop fighting for your in-laws to get out of there. I'm so glad you have your wife and kids, Aaron.

@LostMittens Год назад

I didn’t think I could respect and admire Aaron more than I did until I watched this video. He’s definitely a hero. Thank you so much for interviewing him.

@aaronclarke1434 Год назад

Thank you

@Peacelily1083 Год назад

You certainly hit the nail on the head there B Man 👏👏👏

@fullaish5684 Год назад

This guest sucks

@bt4582 Год назад

This is such a good comment and summarizes exactly how I feel.

@LostMittens Год назад

@@bt4582 Thank you! A hero for sure!

@rachaelb. 11 месяцев назад

I'm subscribed to Aaron's channel and I don't recall him getting emotional. When he couldn't speak for a moment and got emotional, I damn near lost it. 😢 I can't imagine what that was like for him. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us.

@tatianagranger2427 9 месяцев назад

The only time I have seen him get emotional is when he would speak about DM’s victims.

@Southern-Sleuth Год назад

Thanks for having Aaron on. He's a hero for people leaving and escaping Scientology and helping the public understand this is a dangerous cult. Aaron has an amazing heart!❤

@maryscott9430 Год назад

Aaron is amazing!! Not only speaking out, but also helping people escape. He doesnt hide, he stands up and is the first to do what he encourages others to do!

@joeoleary9010 Год назад

Stop saying amazing. People who describe everything as "amazing" are worse than Scientology.

@maryscott9430 Год назад

@@joeoleary9010 amazing advice! Thank you

@bethotoole6569 Год назад

@@maryscott9430 Amazing reply!!!

@bethotoole6569 Год назад

@@joeoleary9010 Okay,, so let's say intelligent, thoughtful, courageous, funny, sarcastic, compassionate, loyal, caring, giving, successful, supportive, oh and just a nice guy. Sometimes amazing fits. So,, are you having a rough day? Because going after ppl for saying someone they genuinely like and admire is amazing is.... well... concerning. The question is genuine.. are you this way normally or is this just a bad day for you??

@C_J__ Год назад

This thread is amazing.

@MrTeslaX Год назад

Man, this guy is such an amazing communicator. Great clarity of thoughts!!

@bes03c Год назад

Scientology trained him well lol

@SuperIce6374 Год назад

It’s because he got rid of all his BTs

@catpeople11 9 месяцев назад

As a joke but as an outsider it seems clarity of communication was one of the main good takeaways from the CoS so silver linings I guess @@bes03c

@grizzlywhisker 9 месяцев назад

I noticed all the people who were involved with Scientology are like this in some manner.

@roddo1955 7 месяцев назад

They are trained to communicate clearly, effectively, confidently and dominantly. They are taught this from early childhood.

@Mercurychyld1 9 месяцев назад

Wow, ‘I’ll take a sense of humor for a $1000 Alex’, said Lex. Lighten UP man. Aaron has a right to deal with his issues as he likes, and for many of us, humor IS part of not just enjoyment, but SURVIVAL in dealing with the dark things of this mostly UGLY world. Ok??!

@stephenward7856 Год назад

I always enjoy listening to smart people talk. Great interview.

@JoBanks Год назад

So happy to see Aaron being interviewed by Lex. His channel, Growing up in Scientology, is brilliant.

@CrookDanny Год назад

Agreed!

@YogSoth Год назад

The fi

@ReilyReedSlatkinakaCOBilf Год назад

COB has made many errors. Captain Bill had the real LRH tech. We can still clear the planet.

@Caturday123 Год назад

Agree!!!

@Psammead21 Год назад

Please forgive me, Lex, for saying this. I had never heard of you or your podcast before Aaron announced on his own channel that his interview with you had gone live. But wow! What an interview! You let the interviewee speak and you really listened. Awesome job and much respect. It's amazing how many interviewers do not do that but still do it for a living. Will make a point of watching more of your stuff now I know who you are ☺ To A-A-Ron! Omg, sweet, you nearly got me on more than one occasion! That was a hard watch in places. Kudos to you for your honesty, openness and personally, I do think you're brave for doing what you do in speaking out. It's incredible how fair you were (and continue to be) to an organisation that rips families apart, yours included. Forgiving family members who have disconnected from you and your wife and your children is one thing - they're living in a cult and continue to follow its rules and practices. That's one thing and I respect you so much for remembering that. But to put across such a fair explanation of what this cult is and what it does.... wow. You're an amazing human being. I'm sure I've not put all this across very well but I'm hoping you both get what I'm trying to say. Sending love and respect from across the pond 🇬🇧

@Lee-qo6ef Год назад

Ron Hubbard was a s fence fiction writer con artist and was nuts

@katharineshade9550 10 месяцев назад

You have articulated my thoughts very well! Ditto on not knowing this interviewer, and appreciating his skills. And the more I learn about A-A-Ron, the more impressed with him I am.

@gailcarney3630 Год назад

One of the best interviews EVER!!! Aaron is so well spoken and Lex is a captivated audience who knows when to push and then pull back.

@lord_haven1114 8 месяцев назад

I would disagree with that. At least in this discussion. Lex was awful in this. “I just want you to take these ideas seriously” etc etc. to the guy who spent 30 years in it and now has devoted their life to helping people recover after leaving.

@gailcarney3630 8 месяцев назад

@@lord_haven1114 Point taken.

@scarletred8888 2 месяца назад

@@lord_haven1114Agree - I thought Lex was very condescending and trying to show off his so called intellectual understanding of philosophy - completely without empathy and not listening properly!

@scottr.7775 Месяц назад

@@scarletred8888Definitely. From his side it felt forced. He kept trying to use analogies and get philosophical to justify Scientology

@scarletred8888 Месяц назад

@@scottr.7775 Yes and he likes to bring in references to communism and the Soviet experiment at any opportunity- his ‘area of expertise’ maybe - I haven’t listened to many of his interviews they are hard to watch with some questionable interviewees

@kwisatzhaderach1458 Год назад

This guy is too smart for Lex

@roddo1955 7 месяцев назад

Lex is a gimmick. His guests are interesting. He is as useful as a piece of paper with questions on it. Or a sign with an inspirational quote, you hang on a wall. an inanimate background that creates nothing but atmosphere.

@calvincoolidge7421 7 месяцев назад

@@roddo1955I would agree but also, I like that type of format, it makes the guest shine :)

@joshpointoh 3 месяца назад

@@roddo1955That doesn't make any sense.

@annette2326 Год назад

I watch AAron every day he posts. I'm not a Scientologist. I was raised by a narcissist. I've found fellowship on his channel and live chats because we all share a kind of stilted childhood experience. It's an outlet I've never had before. It's very much like having coffee around the kitchen table with a bunch of friends who understand and help you laugh it off. It's replaced television. Monday with Aaron, Marc and Mike. Tuesday with Marc and Claire Headley etc... Other really helpful podcasts: Chris Shelton and John Atack. They're all about critical thinking. Less raucous, totally informative.

@geekdivaherself Год назад

I understand completely about it replacing TV. And there is no way I could watch the Ozarks because I would be a little stress kitten & that does NOT do well with my adult-onset Still's disease. But all their stuff does because there's positive work towards positive goals.

@StKrane Год назад

Beautifully put. I agree. Thank you!

@zenobiaboyd4246 Год назад

Wow, I could have written this, same here alas, although my problem parent has more of a mixture of violent dictator and lack of empathy. I felt like I lived under a very tiny Cult leader who ruled over me and my mother. Got away from the idiot 10 years ago at 36 but my mum is still with him, both in their 80s now. Having read a lot of Cult books past couple of years I also resonate with some of the experiences. Jon A is correct when he says it is Authoritarianism in all of these situations, trying to control others. I find comfort in listening to these podcasts and materials and you’re right it’s much more informative than most TV.

@erciliaflores Год назад

There are quite a few former Scientologists who are extremely likeable and really great to listen to. I really like John Atak and wish he was my grandpa! He's so knowledgeable but really gentle and sweet, too. And yes, I'm with you on replacing tv time with my favourites on YT like our dear A A Ron! This was great interview- It didn't even feel like 2hours long

@maytheforcebewithyou4313 Год назад

Agreed, I have healing channels I need to remind me good people exist that put their lives out there so I can listen to them speak the truth and strengthen me when I doubt what I know. Childhood upbringing was destructive to me and I wanted to leave home since I was 7. I really admire the exscientologists on the Aftermath continuing to save the people who are wanting out and pour their hearts into rescuing them. I have felt like you about having coffee in the kitchen with them. Its like the family of siblings I needed but never had. I also love the their directness in showing up to us, and showing their emotions. Its the part in me that got humiliated out of me by my narcissitic parents, they refuted my feelings and didn't tolerate my crying or accept my showing displeasure at them or anything. This group of kind people who laugh a lot are total gems.

@taWay21 Год назад

Love Aaron. Could listen to him all day. He's such a great communicator

@LLynneM Год назад

I watch Aaron’s channel most days, but this video was like watching a compelling movie. I learned things about Aaron + Scientology I didn’t know that I didn’t know and it made me feel all the feelings. Thx, gents. Keep it up!

@Secular-Serenity 9 месяцев назад

I have so much respect for Aaron and what he is doing for others. Thank you for having him on.

@aaron179 Год назад

Good on you Lex for shining a light on this.

@ClaimClam Год назад

you did great on the show aaron!

@HowsSIGHTS Год назад

Damn the families part was tough. I couldn’t imagine going thru something that. Not being able to see my parents, cousins, etc. Really evil stuff man

@justanaveragejess86 Год назад

I second that 🥰

@fairyspunfibers9098 Год назад

@Abel is dad VERY evil, indeed. Makes me sick and angry. 😠😤

@tinasherrill6530 Год назад

I listen to Aaron all the time and this is the first time he made me cry. Such an unnecessary, crushing pain to inflict upon people.

@donnamorgan2522 11 месяцев назад

Great interview! I hit Aaron’s channel every day-the man’s all heart ❤

@hughhogan9724 Год назад

As someone who has also grown up in this. It absolutely killed me hearing him talking about the family separation. My sister is still deeply involved and I am in the stages of tip toeing around the talk. But I have lost countless friends and relationships to this cult

@jacquelineleitch7050 10 месяцев назад

The material isolation in terms of economic slavery et al to the cult in the end clarifies the importance of the family and then the final straw and the sadism in taking the last essence of actual communal bonding as opposed to slave/cult relationships by separating families actually is David Miscavich’s miscalculation - as Aaron says. There is no need to belong to a slave cult in America whether it’s FLDS, LDS, Christian Power organizations, JW, Mormon, Scientology et al. Essentially there is no need for slaves in democracy even if it feels good for a little while. Did Scientology make Aaron very smart. Not necessarily. Was it positive? Not necessarily. You can’t trust the positive feedback from and con any more than you can trust the abuse. It’s all smoke. Look deeper than simple ideas of positive and negative.

@hughhogan9724 10 месяцев назад

@@jacquelineleitch7050 trust me it wasn’t something I made my mind up hating 2 minutes into thinking about it. It was years and years of not just me but my parents and my siblings going through it

@jacquelineleitch7050 10 месяцев назад

@@hughhogan9724 ouch. My comments are a little too generalized for the specificity of your deeply sad situation. I am sorry for spouting off. I come from a loquacious Celtic background where people spout off a lot. story time lol I am sorry that you have left Limbo and your family are tied to it. Do you watch the SPTV stuff? It’s helpful.

@karyntownsend 9 месяцев назад

I am sooo sorry,for ever being involved..... It must be lonely,not having your family and friends who are still in this sad movement 😢

@geraldfriend256 9 месяцев назад

So you got out then. Good on you. You can not change a brainwashed mind . I know it is soul crushing shtt but anyone who choses a cult over their family is no better than choosing an addiction over their family or abandoning them altogether for whatever reason.

@dakicpopovich Год назад

Thank you very much Aaron Smith for what you do, you bring a lot of comfort for many of us who have had our worst experience in life while in Scientology! Again, Thank you very much

@jenniferfraser9011 Год назад

This conversation is going to piss off DM and OSA. Awesome!

@justanaveragejess86 Год назад

Ohhh yeah! He has nowhere left to hide!

@justanaveragejess86 Год назад

I mean the amount of crawl spaces he could fit into to hide is simply unimaginable!

@katrinat.3032 Год назад

@@justanaveragejess86 🤣

@justanaveragejess86 Год назад

@@katrinat.3032 Lol I couldn't help myself 😆

@justanaveragejess86 Год назад

Hi OSA!!! How is your Keebler King doing? Make sure to let him drink out of a cup rather than a bottle so he feels like a big boy!!!

@etch-a-sketch 10 месяцев назад

What a lovely guy Aaron seems to be. He’s a strong and warm individual.

@lauraelliott7441 8 месяцев назад

And smart as a whip!

@yikes7963 11 месяцев назад

I've never been in a cult. I stumbled upon A-Aron by happenstance due to my interest in Leah Remini. When I found out exactly what was going on in Scientology and around her experiences, Tom Cruise's extremely odd behaviors made more sense to me. I wanted so much to be of comfort to Aaron when he spoke of how his wife's family were confronted and threatened with the bonds of their children and grandchildren it broke me seeing him cry. 😢 I am at the end and am just hearing about his twin. I have not heard of him. Another heart breaking moment. I appreciate these two hours win Aaron. He is usually focused on his guests and it's nice to see someone give him an open floor space to tell his story.

@thereallisamarchbanks Год назад

Aaron is one of the best voices for those who want out of Scientology.

@Kawiboy Год назад

Aaron is truly a BADASS 👊✌️✌️😉

@ProtectTheSecond Год назад

This guy is awesome. Need more people like him

@simplylethul Год назад

Scientology is just as dogshit as all of the other religions, yet, everyone makes it out to be the "worst" to be a part of.

@ProtectTheSecond Год назад

@@simplylethul such a thoughtful response! Reflex on you well

@simplylethul Год назад

@@ProtectTheSecond well, all religions are trash, so calling out only one is hilariously stupid.

@maggot1227 Год назад

As a HUGE fan of A-A-RON and everything he does, it always hurts to see him get choked up about his family since he is always such a bright jovial person trying to help others. He is always so genuine. Keep up the good fight A-A-RON!

@katrinat.3032 Год назад

I know! I felt bad for him in the moment when he was overcome with emotion, but I’m glad he showed that pain. THAT really showed just the tip of the iceberg of pain caused by that evil cult. I love when Aaron, Marc and Mike fool around but sometimes we NEED to see the true effects of this cult

@bloochoob Год назад

Ay Ay Ron! I like his channel. I went into the Scientology shop in London, for a ‘personality test’. I let them think I was falling for it, then I eviscerated the chump ‘interviewing’ me. I was then frogmarched out the door 😂 Scientology didn’t want me 😂

@Contessa6363 9 месяцев назад

That's great! They tried to get me to do that. I said to them you're all a bunch of frauds! Obviously I left right away after that! 😮😮😮

@MotherofAthletes 5 месяцев назад

😂wish you had that on video. Good job! 👏

@bloochoob 5 месяцев назад

@@MotherofAthletes it was early 90s, so no camera phones etc. I also stayed in Los Angeles in a Travelodge on a holiday there and to my shock, I was next door to the huge blue Scientology building, with massive letters all lit up at night, it looks like it’s floating in the sky, its sinister as hell ! 😳

@sentra0209 Год назад

Aaron, thanks for what you're doing. Love from Canada.

@susanward678 Год назад

Have never been involved in Scientology but I'm a big fan of Aaron's channel. So glad he got to talk with you. Thanks for having him.

@inventedcool1076 Год назад

Him asking if David miscaviage would sit down for an interview actually made me laugh out loud.

@streamer_services Год назад

That ought to be one of the biggest red flags for anyone thats looking to join that garbage.

@LawNerd23 Год назад

He really thinks that is a possibility. IMO, he is very wrong.

@robzombie5928 Год назад

Lex tends to want to see the best in all people and sometimes it just seems gullible or ridiculous. In general though it might be better if more people had that attitude, even if others would definitely take advantage

@24kgoldplatedvermeil Год назад

@@robzombie5928 i didnt interpret his statement as naive but misinformed. If he actually did his research hed never assume such a thing

@mozearteffect10 Год назад

he has no clue what's he's really dealing with......if this would of been 7=10 years ago, I'd say Lex was takin on a real problem, personally, by doing this on his platform.......now not so much....the long slow slide down of the spirit slickers is finally here.....

@JohnKaminski1 11 месяцев назад

Aaron and Lex Thank you for a great frank, lucid and intellectually honest conversation.

@blueminutes4686 9 месяцев назад

I'm here because of Aaron's channel. I feel like I know him better after hearing this interview. Losing people hurts. I cried with him. 🌻

@carpeimodiem Год назад

David Miscavige would *NEVER* have the balls to talk to Lex. He is an absolute coward. So great to see A-A-Ron on the best podcast in the world!!

@flipperspro69 Год назад

You are right!!! The dude is in hiding the last I heard and no one know his whereabouts like his wife Sally!!! Seem the mainstream media is quiet about David M. Ohhhh

@carpeimodiem Год назад

@@flipperspro69 Shelly. For sure!

@ClaimClam Год назад

COB would confront and shatter Lex

@carpeimodiem Год назад

@@ClaimClam lmao Chairman Miscavige is a total coward. He can't confront anyone who isn't his slave or sycophant. Lex would be 100x more charitable than any podcast interviewer. And that's still too intimidating for him. Absolute coward clown.

@carpeimodiem Год назад

@@ClaimClam oh I just noticed your name. Nice

@kathianderson6485 Год назад

This is likely your most brilliant interview yet. It was profoundly inclusive of what life should be all about, and how people seeking higher levels of the human experience can get abused to their own destruction in their efforts. I hope you have Aaron Levin-Smith back for more interviews. We can all grow wiser and kinder with these discussions.

@fairyspunfibers9098 Год назад

It's Aaron Smith-Levin. 😊👍

@eldenreel7412 8 месяцев назад

A-A-Ron is truly inspiring. I’ve never heard so much of his story. This long format interview with him was awesome. I hope other RU-vidrs give him the opportunity to tell his story like Lex did.

@estanford826 5 месяцев назад

Love A-A-Ron 😂😂😂

@LifeSuccessCoaching 9 месяцев назад

Lex you did a great job interviewing Aaron. You pulled a lot out of them that I've never heard before. And Aaron you obviously have a 130 or higher Intelligence Quotient. Extremely articulate and a great job of unbelievably detailed answers that I've never heard before from you or any Scientologist.

@reneepolin6549 Год назад

AARon is by far one of my most Favorite people on the Planet Seriously love this guy's humble transparency

@Meilk27 Год назад

A A RONN

@donnamurdoch8949 Год назад

This is the absolute best interview of how this cult controls and hurts its own members , showing just how cruel it is. It doesn't build it's believers up it belittles them and it takes their money whilst doing it. Thank you for the honesty.

@KerriBemus 4 месяца назад

Wow! This is the first time I have come across your RU-vid page. What a raw and vulnerable interview. This is what people should see about what Scientology delivers to their members. Excellent interview! This is truth!

@Holly-days 5 месяцев назад

Great interview, Lex. Aaron, I never knew you because I escaped scn probably before you could talk. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing your story and your knowledge with everyone.

@Holly-days 4 месяца назад

Those interested should also watch "Our Scientology Stories -- Peeling the Onion" with Mark Fisher and Janis Gillham Grady. They were actual staff and have vast personal experience themselves. (I know and worked with them myself.) At their RU-vid Channel you'll find accurate stories from direct experiences of the people they interview.

@roux2689 Год назад

Coming from a retired segment producer-You chose such a quality person to express this topic.

@geekdivaherself Год назад

As an Aaron listener, this makes me happy to read.

@toribern816 Год назад

@@geekdivaherself same. Love ASL

@erin4885 Год назад

Exmormon here and this interview has been more helpful for me than any post mormon podcast or interview I've ever heard. It's so important to think thoughtfully about the ways things worked and why and where it went wrong vs. EVIL CULT where it's all shit without understanding why some parts if it did work and being able to see something bigger than just pain. Though holding space for our pain is necessary. Thank you so much both of you for this thoughtful inquiry- it's helped me so much in ways I can't explain.

@jameswashington4704 Год назад

Yeah man I find alot of these organizations really just sit on something real and slowly abuse it and try to rewrite true and universal facts and realities for thier own benefit. I think the trick is to stay away from any kind of establishment

@chickenlover657 Год назад

Everything works sometimes. The only thing pain is a measure of is how stuck on doing things wrong you are.

@grantedvalson9641 Год назад

Even a perfect doctrine cannot force man to heaven. Some people just really find a way to screw things up for themselves which turns a good thing bad

@erin4885 Год назад

@@grantedvalson9641 no such thing as a perfect story. That's why it's always adapting

@erin4885 Год назад

@chickenlover657 that doesn't hold space for much of the pain of the human experience

@jennaverde3980 9 месяцев назад

Been watching Aaron’s channel for awhile and never got the laughing thing, now seeing him talk to alex, someone outside the Church it’s clear, that’s how Aaron copes with all the damage they did to him 😢

@monmonz9151 9 месяцев назад

Aaron my heart goes out to you when you discuss about your Brother and your Family divide. Your strength Aaron is all You, your heart, soul, integrity and intelligence, in my humble opinion for those darkest times you talk about. Thank you Aaron for sharing your experience. Thank you Lex. Monica. New Zealand.

@Queenthetan Год назад

I love A A Ron's channel! It's always interesting to hear him as a guest, too. Love this interview!

@AarononYoutube Год назад

We don't appreciate being referred to that way

@Queenthetan Год назад

@@AarononRU-vid A A Ron @growingupinscientology embraces it. No offense to other Aarons.

@NickolaiPetrovitch Год назад

@@AarononRU-vid hahahah!

@medleyaliesha Год назад

@@AarononRU-vid it's the into to "Growing up in Scientology" channel.

@fairyspunfibers9098 Год назад

@Aaron Johnson 😂😅😆

@victorvanrijn Год назад

Great to see how more men are currently choosing to open their hearts to each other and connect from mutual respect and share authentically in order to inspire many more!

@KEP2 5 месяцев назад

Great interview! Thanks so much! ✝️🦓🥄

@Secular-Serenity 9 месяцев назад

Good afternoon, it’s a beautiful day to not be in a cult.

@Cherrymom3 Год назад

2 of the best you can find on RU-vid today. 2 great men that both possess and display morals and the ability to show common sense. A real rarity in today's world.

@julievega9484 Год назад

Well said!

@theotherkangaroo Год назад

"Can you imagine 2 of me?" What an interview! You both have my admiration for your humanity. 💗

@SueLloyd-jz2lr 11 месяцев назад

18 July 23. What an amazing interviewer and interviewee. Thank you for a thought provoking show with a heartfelt quote to boot. Greetings from New Zealand.

@soupriceme 9 месяцев назад

I have practically devoured almost every video Aaron uploads on his channel. But this was the first time I have ever seen him brought to tears. I love his playful roasting of Miscavige and Scientology's backwards/harmful ways. But I know now a hint of the pain/trauma they put him and his family through... We love you Aaron ❤🫂

@rebeccadelbridge2998 Год назад

Thank you for this. My aunt is heavily, and I fear, irretrievably indoctrinated in this 'religion'. She is an ot8. She also signed on in Adelaide, Australia during the 70's. She has done so many questionable, immoral, and dishonest things, all the while claiming to represent the gold standard for 'ethics'. I can't, any more, with her and her hypocrisy, but I fear for her daughter, who is an adult now, but was born and raised in this. I suspect she is in the sea org now, but my aunt is so secretive and deceptive, it's hard to know. She has been transported from Australia to Clearwater, Florida and has lived there most of her life. I suspect she is basically a slave. I don't know what I can do to help her from Adelaide.

@chrisS19019 9 месяцев назад

That’s so scary, if you can find a Private investigator around Clearwater you can have them find some info for you

@Happy_Puffin 9 месяцев назад

Secrecy and deception are how the cult maintains control.

@mdperkins1482 7 месяцев назад

😢

@jamesjohno1180 5 месяцев назад

I don’t think there really is a way to save them if they don’t want saving kinda thing it’s hard, until they see what they’re doing to them and their family only then can they break away but by then they’re so far into this it’s too late they’ll continue with what they know. The minute you tell your aunt how much you disagree with this she will then have to tell the org and you probably won’t ever hear from her again and you’ll be disconnected

@tinat.4508 5 месяцев назад

Being told that you are superior to other human beings is a hell of a drug.. unfortunately it produces people with very bad behavior.

@annetjievz Год назад

I think Aaron and his gang is not only an inspiration to the ex-scientology community, but to anyone who has been in a cult-like environment or toxic relationship. He's not affraid to tackle the hard topics and go after the people who get away with atrocities in the name of "the greater good". That, and trolling David Miscavige, of course. 😬

@KrissyMeow Год назад

Been watching Aaron on his channel for a while! Awesome to see him get some interviews, he's been doing hard work in Clearwater to get these nutjobs out.

@Shreks_brother Год назад

Thank you Lex for finally settling the "Gif vs. Jif" debate

@crookedclassic Год назад

I just finished listening to this interview... My heart was not ready for this, the story about his family fucked me up. I have nothing but respect for A-Aron, what an absolute legend.

@nunyabeezwacks1408 Год назад

JayQuellen

@v4603 Год назад

Aaron has been my favourite channel for a year or two now, so nice to see him on Lex’ podcast :)

@justanaveragejess86 Год назад

Right? When our favorite content creators collide!

@mamasuki Год назад

Same!

@sunstrikedancesportjymcole 7 месяцев назад

Awesome interview. I love hearing about the inside of Cults.

@TGBahr Год назад

A lot of pain still beneath the surface, which makes Aaron's motivation to help others even clearer.

@anthalia1259 Год назад

AAron favorite saying "I don't know, I grow up in a cult", but I'm always impressed by how damn smart he is. Lex I'm not surprised ;)

@katrinat.3032 Год назад

@Lex Looks like you have a hacker

@fairyspunfibers9098 Год назад

Naw, just another scammer. I see them *everywhere!* even on the not-so-big channels, these days.

@Jrslander908 Год назад

Aaron was an amazing choice as a guest

@joeoleary9010 Год назад

Stop describing everything as "amazing." Have we all become 13 yr old illiterates?

@Jrslander908 Год назад

@joeoleary9010 of course not, and I have a pretty advanced vocabulary. It was just the word I chose to use in the moment, and it was fine to use. I can't imagine critiquing the use of the word "amazing" in a single RU-vid comment, but everyone is different.

@medleyaliesha Год назад

@JR Slander I thought your comment was amazing! 😁

@bethotoole6569 Год назад

@@medleyaliesha Another amazing reply!!

@Ottee2 Год назад

@@bethotoole6569 , Awesome.

@santiagocalvo 9 месяцев назад

This is the best podcast on your entire show, amazing job!!!!

@rockergirl6926 9 месяцев назад

Such an insightful, candid and raw conversation. Thank you.

@touchstonesandroses Год назад

Love that you had A-aron on your podcast, Lex -- thank you from Somerville, MA

@geekdivaherself Год назад

Thanks from Seattle, Washington, USA!

@lkglkg80 Год назад

We all thought Aaron was doing Rogan. I love Rogan but this is just as dope. A-Aron is a damn legend.

@sugeygumdrops4679 Год назад

I hope Joe will consider it. I know the conversation with Ron Sr. was a little cringey, but A-Aron is the kind of communicator I think Joe would enjoy bouncing ideas off of.

@4emcarthur Месяц назад

Wow, this fellow Aaron Smith-Levin is absolutely incredibly stable & grounded in his character. I have been a fan of Lex for a while, & I just found Aaron's channel. This podcast is a great find!

@colette6984 9 месяцев назад

I love Aaron's authenticity 💛

@Jenvick Год назад

I didn't even dare to hope that the significant.podcast ASL had been to recently was this one. I watch him a lot but this is the best deep dive into his story I've seen. Awesome work guys!

@lordartos8222 Год назад

My dad sent me to scientology when i was 15 in New York city. It was slavery. I was only allowed out on the weekend for 4 hours. They treat it like the navy and work you to the bone. They only paid me like $20 a week for all the work. (I spent it at the arcade on my 4 hour leave lol) They made me listen to a bunch of hubbard speeches over and over and made sure i was brainwashed by making me read a dictionary for words i didnt fully understand. I wasnt allowed to associate with non scientologist. I didnt last long, so i never got to the weird stuff. Only did the auditing once. They dug deep into my family history. It was unnerving. I wasnt feeling it. I ran away after 3 months. Never made it pass EPF or whatever the lowest rank was. Cant remember. My mom picked me up on the corner and took me back to florida behind my dads back. I met Isaac Hayes tho so that was cool lol

@dianacryer Год назад

Your lucky.

@shleffy Год назад

I used to go to the church on 46th but stopped about 10 years ago. I’m surprised you only did auditing once. I always thought those intro classes and auditing were the only things worth a damn. But later I got turned off bc I’m allergic to bulls*** and they kept asking me for $$$. I’m still impressed that there were a couple of very intelligent women and guys working there but overall it’s such a cult.

@TheChurchofCacti Год назад

@Steve S What if you join the Church but just never give them any money. When they ask for money for a class, you ask back for a scholarship. Otherwise, you can't do it, sorry. Someone should do that with hidden camera

@StfuSiriusly Год назад

@@dianacryer you're*

@jadepaulsen8456 Год назад

I admire you. Go with your gut.

@shawnacemelendez6772 10 месяцев назад

Laughter is necessary. It feels condescending to pick at him for how he handles his experiences within Scientology. I actually feel bad for him that he’s having to explain himself for how he’s coping.

@JJ-gr9yz Год назад

I have watched all of Aaron's content, and he is on such a truly pure mission to save people from this system of destruction with poise and intelligence, alongside the rest of the now SPTv contributors. Seeing him break down in tears really moved me, even after so much time engaging in his content; to see him show that emotion and still be able to say, "I forgive" and to feel empathy for others still in is inspiring. It is even more inspiring once you understand the depths CoS goes through to eliminate empathy from victims.

@medleyaliesha Год назад

Been super excited to finally hear this podcast! Love the trouble A-Aron spreads!!! ❤️❤️❤️

@victoriachristian4379 Год назад

Oh. My. Gosh. If there was a PERFECT person to interview Aaron it is you. This was just so remarkable and moving and you captured the very best of him! I’m a non-Scientologist that has been following Aaron’s channel (and others who are doing the great work of supporting those who want to leave a high demand religion). Thank you, thank you, thank you!

@juliablair4963 9 месяцев назад

So much respect for Aaron. Such grace and compassion for families torn apart.

@nicksprofile Год назад

I love how great these two are as communicators. It actually saved the interview from potentially going into an awkward direction. Lex came into the interview with the perspective of curiosity for Scientology and trying to understand the good parts that have attracted so many people to it. Aaron came into the interview with the objective of revealing the darkness and ridiculousness of the cult. Aaron’s honesty and objectivity allowed him to answer Lex’s questions fairly, and prove a lack of bias with the information he was providing. Once Lex realized this, he lowered his skepticism and absorbed Aaron’s information much easier. Kudos to both guys for an amazing interview, huge fan of both!

@kenziek6707 Год назад

What a great comment, its funny I was thinking the same thing in the back of my head as well. It is an interesting interview. Love A A Ron. I would of liked it if the parts about Grant Cardone were in there, but, i suppose thats a bowl of worms Lex didn't want to get into.

@highjinx6519 8 месяцев назад

That’s one of the only comments that long I’ve read that was worth it. 👍

@abv250 Год назад

I'm never been a Scientologist, but I still subscribe to Aaron's channel. The topic is Scientology, but the issues can be found in most every life, and Aaron is authentic, corrects if he finds himself exaggerating even the smallest thing.

@katrinat.3032 Год назад

Agreed! I have no connection to Sci, but I love Aaron’s channel, growing up in Scientology and Mar Headley’s channel Blown for good, and Mike Rinder is starting a channel

@savage22bolt32 Год назад

I tried every chapter for a minute each. It's all nonsense.

@abv250 Год назад

@@savage22bolt32 Why so?

@eyesWlDEOpen Год назад

Lex shows his interviewing expertise in this one, riding the fine line of giving all ideas a fair shake with compassion

@wendyolson7110 Год назад

So agree.

@Deuce7Off Год назад

Wtf Lex is a terrible interviewer here. He challenges Aaron too much and dismisses his ideas constantly in the beginning without a proper understanding.

@kandilula Год назад

If being entirely without empathy is "interviewing expertise," ok 👍

@tatianagranger2427 9 месяцев назад

@@kandilulahe’s horrible. He knows NOTHING about Scientology and actually said he read about it on Wikipedia! He then tells Aaron how to feel and what to say. This is annoying. It’s rude as hell to not DO any prep. And his ignorance and contempt showed when he scuffed about interviewing David Misgavage. He actually acted like it was possible and that lex could do it what a joke.

@benjaminhawthorne1969 9 месяцев назад

This is the first time that I have heard Lex Fridman, and I am impressed! He is a thoughtful and insightful host.

@adambaileyshow361 Год назад

That you interview so many people in so many specializations, your show is an absolute good and I enjoy tuning in.

@eyeswideopen2832 Год назад

This is probably the best interview about scientology that I've heard. Great questions from Lex. Great answers from Aaron. Well done guys. Much Love!

@fairyspunfibers9098 Год назад

@eyeswideopen "Much Love"... I see what you did there. 😆

@carolinelalam7542 Год назад

Leah remini on Joe Rogan is a good one also.

@nestortomaselli6372 Год назад

This is a good man right here. I love how authentic and up front he was about his while story. The fact that he has no hate in his heart despite the obvious fact that he is still deeply hurt by his experience speaks volumes to his integrity.

@jajordan2106 Год назад

It's less a measure of integrity and more his resilience I think. Integrity speaks towards the actions or behavior we engage in without others watching.