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Abandoned City Hall Station Tour 9/19/2023 

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Hello,
This is some footage I put together of my visit to the original City Hall Station with the NY Transit Museum. Sadly, I accidentally deleted some of my original footage, so I tried my best to put the video together the way I planned with what footage I was able to recover.
I also included some present to past comparisons with photos I took with the goal of replicating some rare photos I found of the City Hall Station from the NYC archives. All of these photos were taken by the contractors during the station construction.
These photos are only a small handful of thousands of photos taken during the NYC Subways construction. Those of you who follow my channel for the Beach Pneumatic Transit, I am planning an update video including rare photos my friends and I discovered after searching in the archives. The photos present in this video will give you a sense of what is to come for my update video. Stay Tuned !

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@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 11 месяцев назад
Amazing the original light fixtures are still mostly intact and working, but those modern "daylight" harsh bulbs are terrible.
@raymondcastro2613
@raymondcastro2613 Год назад
Always enjoy watching subway videos. I have taken this same tour twice. Unfortunately, in this video, it looked like they just dumped everyone off at this station without a tour guide. If that is the case, than you guys got short changed big time. Even before the tour group I was part of went down the subway stairs, our tour guides talked about the importance of the surrounding buildings, the neighborhood, and the politician like the mayor. And why this historic station laid the first building block for other stations.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
Hello, There was a tour guide, I did not film that part of the tour as it was too loud outside. We did not get in through the original station entrance but it was definitely worth it !
@Dolph-nv8oo
@Dolph-nv8oo 11 месяцев назад
@@kbhastheanswer Too bad you were way more interested in forcing us to watch/listen to subways rolling by. Your video, out of all I've seen from urban explorers, literally sucks.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
@@Dolph-nv8ooI think it’s pretty good for my first video
@SuperheroJunior
@SuperheroJunior 7 месяцев назад
​@@kbhastheanswer How can we get a tour to this historic City Hall station?
@kunalgaikwad8359
@kunalgaikwad8359 7 месяцев назад
​new york transit museum conducts these tours
@cgimovieman
@cgimovieman 11 месяцев назад
Such a legendary place. Back when our infrastructure really had artistic quality and attention to detail to it. I really wish this whole station could be fully restored and made more available as a museum. Also think it would add to the ambiance to use old Edison filament style light bulbs inside.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
Yes it is sad that this place is inaccessible to the public, I answered a recent comment similar to yours that explains why this station is not utilized as a museum and/or opened for the public to see. It is very interesting how the location and sentimental value of the station keeps it in a state where this station is abandoned but still checked up on and not left to rot or adapted like other early subway stations. Also, Post 9/11 sentiment plays a big factor in preventing this station from being open for the public. For example, the city will probably never open this station to the public again because it is located directly underneath City Hall. The lightbulb idea should be considered by whoever is in-charge of this station !
@42luke93
@42luke93 11 месяцев назад
I don’t know why they would put daylight lighting didn’t it used to have a soft white color?
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 11 месяцев назад
Yes, although well preserved, it needs a good cleaning and for missing tiles and the damaged light fixtures to be addressed.
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 11 месяцев назад
I wish they'd quit marketing that "daylight" color to the public - it's awful. @@42luke93 Yes, there's modern LED in warmer colors, even mimmicing early Edison bulbs.
@woodysills5117
@woodysills5117 11 месяцев назад
As a former train operator, I've been thru there thousands of times. I've never seen it with lights on. Nice video
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
Thank you ! Interesting from the perspective of a train operator, I did not realize that it’s rare for the lights to be on because I usually see the station from the window of the 6 train.
@ScholinaGaming
@ScholinaGaming 5 месяцев назад
Best video of City Hall Station I’ve seen out there.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you !
@SegaDisneyUniverse
@SegaDisneyUniverse 11 месяцев назад
I can't imagine how loud that screeching is, lol. And I bet it's pretty scary being there alone.😆
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
It is very loud but being in the station worth losing your hearing for ! Must be terrifying to be there alone !
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 11 месяцев назад
While amazing as is, I think it's time for a cleaning and some tile restoration.
@murraykitson1436
@murraykitson1436 11 месяцев назад
There appears to be a lot of "GIANT ZIPPERS " decorating the ceilings ! 🤣 I certainly enjoyed this video , thank you !
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
I can’t unsee it !!
@jamesf791
@jamesf791 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing this video. I've seen a few of these videos, mostly people staying on the train when they shouldn't have. I would love to go on a tour like your group did of this station. The ornate of this station is amazing.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
I’m glad you enjoy the footage ! You can learn more about touring the station here: www.nytransitmuseum.org/program/cityhall-tour-6242/#:~:text=In%201904%2C%20New%20York%20City's,Station%20amidst%20great%20civic%20pride.
@kolmogorovaxiom1493
@kolmogorovaxiom1493 10 месяцев назад
There is actually nothing wrong or illegal about staying on the train as it makes the loop
@jamesf791
@jamesf791 10 месяцев назад
@@kolmogorovaxiom1493 not according to the MTA. But seriously doubt you would do it right next to an employee
@kolmogorovaxiom1493
@kolmogorovaxiom1493 10 месяцев назад
@@jamesf791 I have done it in plain sight of employees, and I was not the only one in the train car. They didn’t care. And even if they did care, the worst that can happen is they tell you to get off
@jamesf791
@jamesf791 10 месяцев назад
@@kolmogorovaxiom1493 sure you have
@MK-hh1vo
@MK-hh1vo Год назад
🤔 So why don't we use this station anymore? Something about the curved platform and the length of the train cars??? I don't get it, the group boarded a train here!!! Regarding the curved platform, there's a solution at the south bound 14th St 4/5/6 platform that works well; it's called the "moving platform". Can't we use that here?
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
They closed the platform in 1945 because the curved platform created issues for the new, longer trains of the Subway hence the loud scrapping noise you hear when the trains go by this station. This noise is caused due to new the trains being much bigger and not suitable to go around the steep curve. Also, the station was made with the purpose to serve the people of its time. For example this station only has one area to enter/exit, with this entrance being located within an area of City Hall Park which is only accessible to authorized individuals. It would be interesting to see this subway station be used, sadly, it was abandoned for a reason because it would not be practical to accommodate the demands of the modern day subway.
@MK-hh1vo
@MK-hh1vo Год назад
@@kbhastheanswer Thanks for the follow up! I hear that screeching sound regularly on the subway; I didn't realize it indicated a problem! I get it now!
@Ostermond
@Ostermond 11 месяцев назад
@@MK-hh1vothe original IRT Subways all had entrances/exits at the very ends of the cars; little open-air vestibules where people could hop on and off before going into the enclosed part of the car with the seats.
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 11 месяцев назад
It doesn't. It's an artifact of the sold-axle wheels moving at different speeds on the inner and outer rails. It has noting to do with the length of the cars. @@MK-hh1vo
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 11 месяцев назад
@@kbhastheanswer The screeching wheels are an artifact of the sold-axle wheels moving at different speeds on the inner and outer rails. It has noting to do with the length of the cars, more to do with the severe curve of the track.
@L.Smith.
@L.Smith. 3 месяца назад
So all those youtubers trying to sneak in when they could just book a tour lol
@skydragon8538
@skydragon8538 Год назад
I just saw a video of some guys that jumped of the train when the subway made its loop around this station from the final stop to get to this station, lucky for them they were not caught 😂
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
Scary, It looked tempting to get some footage inside the station alone. I saw a video where this guy jumps onto the moving train to leave the station. I don’t know if I could see myself pulling something like that off so I opted for taking the tour !
@mrxman581
@mrxman581 8 месяцев назад
This was very cool and sad at the same time i can't believe they haven't come up with a plan to open up this station again. They need to rework that track to accomodate the modern trains.
@MillerMeteor74
@MillerMeteor74 11 месяцев назад
That was so beautiful. And I liked that bridge they used at the end for passengers to cross the gap. Thanks for sharing.
@SuperCooly
@SuperCooly Год назад
interesting video I didn't even know they still did these tours I came to take some photos in June and it was quite difficult
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
The tour was definitely worth it. Wish I had a better camera to take more high quality photos but the GoPro did the job. I’ve rode the downtown 6 train many times around the loop and tried to take videos but always wanted to access the city hall station without trespassing. If you have the same desire I highly suggest looking into the nytransit museum who are the only service to my knowledge that offers tours of this Subway station.
@HarrisonPeloso
@HarrisonPeloso 11 месяцев назад
I’ve heard this tour is a lot of fun
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
I can vouch that it is very fun !
@shenchao-shen
@shenchao-shen 6 месяцев назад
「拜託不要殘留half spin在裡面….」 Please do not leave half spin of your particles, I’m not going to integrate it for particular visa transaction. It’s really complicated.
@jediknight3206
@jediknight3206 11 месяцев назад
How do you get tickets to visit the station
@mitch4527
@mitch4527 11 месяцев назад
Seems like a shame - City Hall was designed to be the masterpiece of the original IRT line. A lot of immigrant labor worked very hard to create this beautiful station. Seems a shame to keep it shut like this without putting it to good use, somehow.
@campbellgraham1979
@campbellgraham1979 Месяц назад
How were they allowed into City Hall? Cos I heard film crews aren’t permitted. Closest I’ve came to seeing it is staying on the 6 train at the last stop and looking out the window as it passes by.
@Tigerking_Papi
@Tigerking_Papi 6 месяцев назад
How Do I get the abandoned City Hall Station Tour?
@bluemantom77
@bluemantom77 Год назад
Always wanted to go to that station every time I would go to j&r music world back in the day once in awhile when I could I would sneak on the train and for the ride back to the other direction just to see the station but I never actually seen it outside wish i was able to touch it smell the history one of these days I'll do the MTA guided tour
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
I love hearing personal stories from before my time ! I definitely recommend the tour !
@bluemantom77
@bluemantom77 Год назад
@@kbhastheanswer I appreciate that must have been something for those people to ride the third avenue El that's before my time by the time they demolish that was some remnants here and there that's it the back then the Bronx where I grew up look like a war zone and I'm not talking about people shooting each other like today talking about the Bronx was on fire 🔥 in the 70's. By 77 the year I came into the world city was a mess the Bronx was a burned out disaster infrastructure was falling apart so a lot of things got closed up from neglect lack of use lack of funding for the maintenance I'm glad you like to learn I hope you continue to learn the city is full of wonders thats facts some of it long gone some of it we don't want to talk about but will never forget
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
@@bluemantom77 you are correct there are many mysteries to be solved here in NYC. I am grateful to live in a place where so much happened. Wish I could’ve been around to see many things, that is why I film these videos so when time prevails people of the future can see what we saw.
@bluemantom77
@bluemantom77 Год назад
​@@kbhastheanswerI wish more native New Yorkers would be interested in curious about so many secrets in in New York City #5 train to Dyer avenue used to go all the way to white plains and that's the remnants of that old train line it was a commuter line want to port Chester NY to along the route of the New Haven line now would you go to White plains Westchester mall is was the terminus of that line
@gasaholic47
@gasaholic47 11 месяцев назад
The 6 train was “my train,” as I’d pick it up at Pelham Bay, and ride it down to Brooklyn Bridge/City Hall. My mom worked at the Southern District Federal Courthouse, so I’d have lunch with her sometimes during the summer. Occasionally, I’d stay on the train when it would loop around and pass through the old station to get a glimpse of it, and then get off at BB/CH.
@Highline17
@Highline17 6 месяцев назад
Looking at the gap, big reminder of why the ADA exists. NYC needs to bring back the artistic quality of the station tho.
@randylotito8045
@randylotito8045 11 месяцев назад
RIGHT HERE I LOVE ♥♥♥ THE N.Y.P.D. POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇🚇 DISTRICT TD-2 COPS 👮‍♀️ 👮‍♂️ 🚔 THAT PATROL THE CHAMBERS STREET SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇 STATION ON 4 5 6 & J SUBWAY TRAINS 🚇.
@DinoCon
@DinoCon 4 месяца назад
There HAS to be a way to reduce the screeching?!?!
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 4 месяца назад
That would entail remodeling the entire station as it was not built to deal with today’s subway cars. We must appreciate that it is still around. Besides, despite being a bit overbearing at times, the screeching is apart of the modern day City Hall Station. It sounds even better in person! :)
@mikeoxmaul9675
@mikeoxmaul9675 7 месяцев назад
Why is it abandon?
@42luke93
@42luke93 11 месяцев назад
This train station used to work because it used to just be two entrances from the rear ends of the trains
@boazvahalla
@boazvahalla 11 месяцев назад
I almost work witv Willie of the MTA. I alwways wabt to visir the City Hall Station but I never,did.
@MetalPete_the_metalfan
@MetalPete_the_metalfan 11 месяцев назад
Anyone remember TMNT 2 The Secret of the Ooze? I remember them finding this place to live in that movie.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
Although I have not seen this myself, I believe what you are talking about was also a reference to the Beach Pneumatic Transit which was the first subway in nyc and a topic I have gone into great detail on this channel. TMNT also referenced the Pneumatic Transit in the 2012 series Season 2 Episode 13, where the Subway is apart of Kraangs lair. Always loved TMNT and it may be a reason I am obsessed with the Subway as an adult since there are lots of references.
@stegowolf
@stegowolf 4 месяца назад
Thank you So Much for sharing your experience! I moved out of NYC with My parents in 86, and I had Never had the opportunity to experience this myself!
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 4 месяца назад
Glad you enjoy!
@haveldampfer7156
@haveldampfer7156 3 месяца назад
Sehr schönes Video ! Frage: Haben die da unten moderne LEDs verbaut, oder lag der Weissabgleich deiner Kamera daneben ?
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 3 месяца назад
Danke schön! Es gibt Kronleuchter, die mit Glühbirnen von der Decke hängen. Keine modernen LEDs, da nie Passagiere unterwegs sind. Dies ist eines meiner ersten Videos, die ich mit meiner Gopro gedreht habe Ich weiß nicht viel über Kameras :)
@haveldampfer7156
@haveldampfer7156 3 месяца назад
@@kbhastheanswer Okay, hatte mich nur etwas gewundert.
@jeffdsfo
@jeffdsfo 11 месяцев назад
I am guessing the plans to turn it into a subway museum have fallen through?
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
Never heard of this idea. This station lies under city hall / the entrance to this station is located in an area of City Hall Park that is off limits to the public. Only authorized individuals are allowed in this area where the entrance to this station is located, hence why we had to enter the station from the 6 train. I doubt they would turn it into a museum with the train going by / the only way as of now they could bring people in and out is through the 6 train. This leaves the station in a odd place where it is very beautiful. The station probably would not be here still if it wasn’t still used as a turnaround for the 6 train.
@MA-yh2ko
@MA-yh2ko 11 месяцев назад
​@kbhastheanswer I thought there was a transit museum with an entrance on Court Street ?
@vancegilmore5821
@vancegilmore5821 11 месяцев назад
Such a beautiful space should be used.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
I agree. It is still used as a turn around for the 6 train but I think this station has long out-lived/out-served it’s purpose for public use. We should appreciate that we still have the station relatively unchanged from its origins. if you know about nyc subways, originality is hard to come by now a days !
@clinttheweldor2653
@clinttheweldor2653 11 месяцев назад
Wow, its very beautiful down there.
@sato.nyc1337
@sato.nyc1337 Год назад
I been here the illegal way
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
Must’ve been some trip, I could only imagine being in there knowing my only way out is to venture through the subway tunnels. I’ve rode the 6 train around to loop at Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall many times and know how big it is / far of a walk through the tunnels it may have been for you. Were you able to snag any souvenirs ?
@lotto88lot
@lotto88lot 6 месяцев назад
Walking into the abandoned tunnel via J train Chamber street station 🚉 😅
@debranchelowtone
@debranchelowtone Год назад
Really nice!
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
Thank you ! I highly recommend taking this tour if you are a local or love NYC subways
@debranchelowtone
@debranchelowtone Год назад
@@kbhastheanswer I'm quite far but i visited Paris subway once.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer Год назад
@@debranchelowtonethat’s on my bucket list to visit Europe and see the subways !
@jstoney6471
@jstoney6471 11 месяцев назад
Did same in 1999...
@jstoney6471
@jstoney6471 11 месяцев назад
Plus back in the day, my neighbor was MTA Welder and we took many exploration tours. South 4th St among others.
@RomaineMelvin-zi3iv
@RomaineMelvin-zi3iv 4 месяца назад
Cool video best one out 👌🏾
@dan797
@dan797 11 месяцев назад
I lived in Manhattan for 40 years. I never knew this existed.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
I lived in NY for 21 years before I found out. It’s a hidden gem !
@timothywalker4563
@timothywalker4563 11 месяцев назад
That is a time warp cool🤓
@geoffrey2246
@geoffrey2246 10 месяцев назад
How were you able to get in a tour? Ive always wanted to see the station its just beautiful
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 10 месяцев назад
You have to pay for a New York Transit Museum membership which is around $60 and with this membership you are provided free access to the museum. They also provide offers including tickets for retro train rides and visiting the city hall station but you must pay extra for these programs. For example, it cost 50$ per person for the full tour including a visit to the station. I think it is worth it for those who have always want to go in the station and you also learn a lot about the history. They do visits to the stations per season. Tickets are high demand and sell out within the first 2 hours they are dropped so make sure if you spend the money on the subscription you are the first one there to buy tickets to see the station.
@mrxman581
@mrxman581 8 месяцев назад
​@@kbhastheanswerSo that would be $110 if a tourist wanted to see this station? That's pricey for a one-time thing.
@D_subway
@D_subway 11 месяцев назад
It’s on 9/29/23
@TheJeromeFanner
@TheJeromeFanner 8 месяцев назад
is the tour free?
@yankee04
@yankee04 5 месяцев назад
No. You have to be a member of the Transit Museum to even have the opportunity to purchase tour tix.
@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164
Dam man please don't play any stupid music, gosh!
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 11 месяцев назад
Kind of amazing how basically a screwup ends up as an historical site for tourists. Maybe one day they will tour the mayor's brain the same way. The formaldehyde tour; brain in a bottle, don't forget your oxygen mask and microscope. You will need a powerful scope to find anything.
@Howrider65
@Howrider65 11 месяцев назад
Many kids have beat you to it.
@badger7554
@badger7554 11 месяцев назад
Wondering what the point of adding fully 3 minutes of non essential video at the beginning is. Sure was interesting watching people descending stairs and walking through turnstiles.
@kbhastheanswer
@kbhastheanswer 11 месяцев назад
This is to give you all the experience of going on the tour. Also it is interesting for many who have not been in subways before.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 7 месяцев назад
​@@kbhastheanswer I beg to differ sir. I don't know what is the norm for this type of vicarious video of a paid tour over there in the States. Nor indeed, if they would allow you to 'broadcast' any of the guide's talks. Here on the tube in London, I have yet to see a video like this. Your first, you say. Well, ahem, it can only get better from here on in. Did it not strike you that the visuals, whilst being of great interest and highly noteworthy ~ because of this enchanting palace's sheer beauty ~ would be absolutely and utterly ruined by i) all that metal on metal shrieking? There really is no reason to keep it in the edit. Yes, the wheels on the tightly curved rails make a really nasty noise and yes, you all had to go through it so we viewers here share your pain. Just once though. Just one episode of it in this video would have been enough. ii) a woeful lack of information. Tis usual over here to have the videographer give a running commentary on his experience (which can also jar if of too little importance) and enlighten we viewers with a potted history of the place. If you're not ready to do a voiceover, what people can do instead is to provide textual snippets in the description. Forgive me for being a bit harsh but I mean this (long) comment as constructive criticism to help you with your future productions.
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