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ABC System Flush in 2012 Mercedes Benz S65 

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This video shows how to flush the ABC (active body control) system in a 2012 Mercedes Benz S65. I purchased 11 liters of Pentosin hydraulic fluid at the local Mercedes dealer for this job. I also used the AGA tool that greatly simplifies the job. It plugs into the bottom of the reservoir where the filter normally connects and then allows all of the return fluid that would normally go through the filter and into the reservoir to go into a 5 gallon bucket. This eliminates the need to disconnect that return line from the bottom of the reservoir, which is difficult to get to. I used the Mercedes Star system to actuate the suspension in "rodeo" mode to warm up the fluid after driving the car for about 20 minutes. The service instructions call out 15 minutes of rodeo mode but after the drive it seemed like it only took a few minutes and then the rodeo mode stopped. One important thing to do is to remove as much fluid as possible from the reservoir before starting the flush procedure. There were about two liters of dirty fluid in there. Then re-fill with clean fluid before starting the flush since that is the fluid that will be pumped through the system flushing out any old fluid. Be sure to have the caps loosened before starting so you can rapidly grab each liter container and not get slowed down trying to break the anti-tamper seal.

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@sixpointthreeamg
@sixpointthreeamg 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video! Purchased the tool, fluid and filter and performed the service today on my S63. It took quite awhile to warm up the fluid in the rodeo mode as you wrote but the actual drain and fill and Dynamic Test to finish were pretty quick. I also used a funnel which made it very easy to pour and watch and was able to do it by myself. I had two 5 liter Pentosin jugs, so it was easier than ten bottles. I found your video watching somebody else's video on an oil change and that person talked about the ABC hydraulic fluid....then my interest started. Found info on the tool and then saw your video. Thank you again!
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 7 месяцев назад
Those 5 liter jugs sound nice. Thanks for your comments, and I’m glad this video was helpful.
@LeoLipert
@LeoLipert 4 года назад
Great video John. Thanks for taking the time to share the process with us.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
You bet
@jonathangclarke
@jonathangclarke Год назад
Great video thank you. I've got 11,500 miles on my 2010 S65. Getting myself ready for this.
@Sam_AMG
@Sam_AMG Год назад
Great video! Thank you for taking the time to record it and shows us how to do it step by step. I will get this done on my S65AMG. It’s good to also know how to order the filter because I tried to order one from Mercedes and they said it doesn’t have one. Now it makes sense why it didn’t come up in their system.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 Год назад
Thank you for the feedback Sam!!
@robsteal3887
@robsteal3887 2 года назад
Great video, thanks for posting. I saw that tool for sale recently, great to see someone use and talk about it before I get around to buying it.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 2 года назад
Thank you for the feedback. Glad I could help.
@ZKhweziN
@ZKhweziN 3 года назад
Not confident enough to do this myself, but what a great video. Absolutely informative. Thank you.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
Thank you Zweli!
@ironworkerwella1
@ironworkerwella1 4 года назад
Ive always flushed my CL65 every 10K miles and the rule of thumb on abc fluid when you buy a ABC car is check the fluid, light green is good, slightly dark means change asap and black fluid means avoid! I hope your car is ok after that flush that fluid looks really dark. Ive had 2 CL600s and 1 CL65 i think im qualified to speak on this.... good luck
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Thanks for you comments MANsA MUSA, I hope it will be ok even though the fluid was pretty dark. Going forward I will keep an eye on the color of the fluid using the dipstick to check. During this COVID-19 period it sat for over a month and no noticeable sagging and no leaking so far. Fingers crossed...
@BeatNovakane
@BeatNovakane 9 месяцев назад
Would a light come on your dash saying ABC fluid is low? or how would you know on a CL550?... ill be checking mine tomorrow tho
@ironworkerwella1
@ironworkerwella1 9 месяцев назад
@@BeatNovakane you have to pull the dipstick for the ABC reservoir . The top line means cold check and the lower line is checking when it’s hot..
@Jason-Jason
@Jason-Jason 3 года назад
Excellent video
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
Thanks Jason!
@1995RangeRover
@1995RangeRover 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing 😊
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate the feedback!
@angturil
@angturil 6 месяцев назад
Hello thanks a ton for this video. What's the diameter of the bottom part of the tool ? (the one that goes inside the reservoir) ? many thanks!
@supersmeshbroz8570
@supersmeshbroz8570 2 года назад
Where did you buy your star tool?
@jayroc0109
@jayroc0109 4 года назад
Nice car I own a 09 s65
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Thanks for your comment Jerrod. These are really special cars. It is pretty amazing how much car you can get with 7 or more years of depreciation. They are amazing machines.
@Pennychaser1
@Pennychaser1 3 года назад
Nice Benz! Got Cl55k myself. Just went with coilovers so no more ABC issue. Ride is almost stock-like.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
Thanks for the comment. Switching over definitely simplifies the maintenance.
@BeatNovakane
@BeatNovakane 9 месяцев назад
How much did that cost (if you dont mind)?
@PRZEMO_PL
@PRZEMO_PL 3 месяца назад
Hello. Thanks for tutorial. What about the power steering fluid? Did you changed it too?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 месяца назад
Yes. But just a simple change of the reservoir fluid. I do that every few oil changes.
@maureenbonnotz4309
@maureenbonnotz4309 4 года назад
Nice and informative. Presented clearly. Other content creators would do well to emulate your technique
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Thank you very much for your compliment.
@hardipusa
@hardipusa 4 года назад
Great video John, where you located? Planning on upgrading to the 06 s65 soon in addition to my clk430 and wanna make great mechanic friends!
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Thanks hardip. I'm located in the St. Louis area. Love the 2012 S65!!
@jgonzalesm6
@jgonzalesm6 3 года назад
I bought a Foxtell NT510 Elite (Mercedes Benz) for my 16,500 mile 2009 SL550 with AMG package. It too does the rodeo test. The scanner was less than $125.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
Good information Joe. That is a great price for rodeo capability! And, that is some really low mileage. Have you flushed your ABS yet?
@jgonzalesm6
@jgonzalesm6 3 года назад
@@johnsworkshop3312 - I will soon. I already got 20ltrs of Pentosin CHF-11S from Amazon for about $211-->good for 2 flushes. Also bought 2 reservoir filters as well from Amazon. Note: the scanner is a FOXWELL and not Foxtell...fyi.
@juniordace1347
@juniordace1347 7 месяцев назад
Hey John, I have a W222, I just plan to add fluid (since I don't need to change it yet), do you add fluid to where the dip stick is at? Thanks!
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 7 месяцев назад
You are correct. You can add fluid through the dipstick hole. Good idea to use a funnel.
@nath1774
@nath1774 2 года назад
I am going to do this job in a couple days. I noticed you were adding the fluid through the fill hole, instead of the reservoir. I’ve seen others adding fluid at the reservoir. Any particular reason one should use one place or the other, that you are aware of?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 2 года назад
My funnel fit nicely in the dipstick hole and then I could see the level through the wider filler cap so I could keep it from getting too low. Good luck with your job.
@basketball798
@basketball798 2 года назад
Need help, my 2015 S65 AMG Sedan constantly squeaks when driving? Is that normal for hydrolic suspension? Any help would be highly appreciated.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 Год назад
That is definitely not right. I would think that it wouldn't be related to the ABC system, but most likely a dry joint - maybe a ball joint or an bad suspension bushing where the rubber is no longer retaining the two parts in the proper position. Those squeaks can be tough to locate. Good luck resolving that.
@a.g.pennypacker3464
@a.g.pennypacker3464 4 года назад
Great video! I need to flush my ABC system too. Where and what STAR (computer system) did you get to run the routine (rodeo) to flush the ABC?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Thank you. Regarding the STAR system - take a look at this forum: mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-tech-talk/763275-das-xentry-my-experience-recommendation.html
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
I appreciate the comment Dave. Glad you got up and running with the Star System. Seems like a must with these cars. Thanks, and you stay safe as well - keep away from that virus!
@a.g.pennypacker3464
@a.g.pennypacker3464 4 года назад
@@johnsworkshop3312 Thank you. I also contacted Peter. He walked me through everything and set up the system. Great guy and knows his stuff.
@FryChicken
@FryChicken 4 года назад
When I did the flush on my '05 CL600 the fluid in the reservoir was sort of crappy, but what was coming out seemed quite nice. Felt like I wasted some fluid;
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
I had the same thought. I believe that the flushing does get out additional dirt and old fluid, but it takes quite a lot of good fluid to accomplish that.
@sikhpilot.
@sikhpilot. 4 года назад
Hey John. I adore the S65. Your interior colour spec is very rare. I dont ever see that on the S65 here in the UK. It's usually a black interior. I believe yours is a tan colour? I would love if you could review your vehicle and show the interior of it. Its absolutely gorgeous.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Thank you Sikhpilot. The official color name is "Microfiber-Brown", and is option 914A in the build code. Good idea on the review. I'll have to do that once I wash it. I really like the interior color too - seems like it stays cooler than the black interior.
@sikhpilot.
@sikhpilot. 4 года назад
@@johnsworkshop3312 absolutely. It will radiate heat better than a black interior. Look forward to further updates. God bless
@stevev7745
@stevev7745 4 года назад
Hi! One question. For flushing the system cca 10-12 liters, and after when fill the system plus 10-12 liters? Or under flushing exchanged the liquid? So, for this enough 10-12 liters or need 20-24 liters? Best regards
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
I used 11 liters total which includes all the flushing and topping it off when done
@stevev7745
@stevev7745 4 года назад
@@johnsworkshop3312 thank you
@Chrissy212
@Chrissy212 3 года назад
halfway through it already looked great why 11 liter's when its already coming out green and clean
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
You are right. But sometimes it looks good as a thin stream but then when it is all together looks dirty. Hopefully that clean fluid was bringing particles with it out of the system.
@mrkongsimr
@mrkongsimr 3 года назад
Hi how can one tell if it has ABC or air ?? Thanks do all 63 amg have abc?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
Most S63s have ABC. If you have airmatic then you will have an airline going into the top of each front strut which you can see with the hood open.
@cossy8169
@cossy8169 3 года назад
So which exactly was the route through star diagnostic? Did you select the dynamic test function from the beginning of the process to flash the old fluid? Or you select the dynamic test function at the end of the process, just to verify that everything was okay after all? Thank you.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
Good question. I was not very clear on that in the video, but I used rodeo mode to warm it up further after I drove it around. The menu also calls this mode "Cyclically alternating actuation of all suspension struts in a circular motion". Then I used the menu pick "Cyclically alternating actuation of front and rear suspension struts (pitch)" while I was changing the fluid. Then, finally, after I was all done I used the menu option "Dynamic Test" to check out the system to ensure it was working properly.
@cossy8169
@cossy8169 3 года назад
@@johnsworkshop3312 Thank you for your clarification.
@darrenwang2356
@darrenwang2356 4 года назад
Great video! I have a 2014 W222 S550 with the magic body control aka abc. Is it same with the older generation abc system? should I do something extra maintenance compared to regular Airmatic W222? I’m already worrying about that system cause the car is getting aged, also there isn’t much discussion about that ABC system on w222.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Darren, I have not read much about the W222 improvements, but I understand that system uses the same hardware as the older ABC system but adds cameras which attempt to anticipate bumps before they are experienced by the tires. If that is indeed the case, then I would think that the same maintenance would apply to your system. See my response to the previous comment for a good link on maintenance.
@darrenwang2356
@darrenwang2356 4 года назад
Thanks for the reply, I just contacted a local dealer, they told me it’s the same procedure as older system(flush oil, change filter). But they don’t flush the system as regular maintenance, they only do it when errors show up. Sounds kinda wired... Any recommendations on when should I flush the system? currently have 40,000 miles on it.
@jgonzalesm6
@jgonzalesm6 3 года назад
@@darrenwang2356 - you should change the filter(reservoir), flush and add new hydraulic fluid every 30k miles.
@OatesSteve
@OatesSteve 3 года назад
Go to E-bay abcteile-24 they sell a Magnetic filter that you add to your ABC line, their custom made in Germany, they work great use on all my ABC suspension vehicles. It gives you that extra piece of mind. They work great. I’ve been using them for years.STEVEO55
@darwins7385
@darwins7385 4 года назад
how reguler should we flush the pentosin? is it count by years/ milleage? mine is S500 2008, it has 23k kilometer on it.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
From what I have read it sounds like a good schedule is 20,000 miles or 2-3 yrs. Taking a look at the color of the fluid is also helpful and it should be clear and have a green tint. The below link is a good reference and he talks about maintenance near the bottom of the article. mercedes-abc-drive-carefully.blogspot.com/
@racereid192
@racereid192 4 года назад
as far as i know the 08 s500 has airmatic and does not have a fluid that would need changing.
@filmkatonakino
@filmkatonakino 4 года назад
That benz looks quite nice. How much did you have to pay for it? Are you happy with the purchase? Is there something that annoys you with your s65? Great video tho ✌🏼👍🏼
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Thanks, these cars really are amazing. Like searching for any car, the price correlates directly with mileage and condition. I was looking for a 2012 or 2013 S65 and searched for about 1 year. Finally found this one in FL. It only had 27k miles on it. I have seen similar models as low as the low 40's but then for really low mileage examples, all the way up to $72k. I've had mine for about 1 year, so prices will have dropped since then. One key for these cars is to ensure you have a well documented service history and be sure the owner was changing oil and transmission fluid regularly. Good luck in your search.
@NoWheelDrive
@NoWheelDrive 4 года назад
Nice video! I have a Benz with airmatic suspension and currently trying to watch several videos regarding ABC to see what's going on in that camp. Seems flushing is not that hard and you don't have to skip it. I'd like to find a way to get that fluid with a discount. I see they sell 5L for around $75. Or maybe there are identical fluids made by different brands...
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
I used my Mercedes Benz club discount and bought it at the dealer. Still pretty expensive but cheaper than buying new parts for the ABS system. I’m sure I paid much more than the price you mention.
@NoWheelDrive
@NoWheelDrive 3 года назад
@@johnsworkshop3312 Thank you for this info! I guess any discount matters since MSRP is too high.
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 2 года назад
A former mechanic from L.A Mercedes-Benz has a problem with his ABC and can't fix it. And was a mechanic for 10 years working on these cars😂
@NoWheelDrive
@NoWheelDrive 2 года назад
@@dragospahontu I'm sorry, but I think I'm a bit confused. Please tell me who's the former Mercedes mechanic? Do you mean the author of this channel or someone else? TIA
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 2 года назад
@@NoWheelDrive someone else. There was a news article on it
@Rolls72
@Rolls72 2 года назад
That is the difference between a driver and one who needs transportation
@Jack-qn4vt
@Jack-qn4vt 3 года назад
Does mercedes have a recommend service interval?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
I have not found an official service interval printed anywhere by the factory, but from researching on the web it sounds like it is advised in the range of every 20,000 to 30,000 miles. I did mine at 30,000, and you could see that the fluid in the reservoir was definitely discolored, and the fluid that was flushed out contained some sediment that was somehow not picked up by the filter, so I am thinking that my next change should be in 20,000 miles.
@MrJUNIORFL
@MrJUNIORFL 4 года назад
John do you have the software of Mercedes to do this ? What kid of software you recomend ?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Yes, I have the Star Diagnostic Xentry software. A handy reference and discussion forum for this is: mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/326084-star-diagnostic-how-diy-lots-o-pics.html. A member named Mackhack was very helpful to me.
@jgonzalesm6
@jgonzalesm6 3 года назад
You could buy a Foxtell NT510 Elite (Mercedes Benz) for less than $125 and that scanner will do the rodeo test.
@culture777tm
@culture777tm 3 года назад
How could you direct or help me do my 2011 S65?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 3 года назад
I would start by getting all of the necessary supplies: the Pentosin fluid, the filter, the AGA tool, and a STAR system. After that, it is a matter of taking your time and being careful as you go through the steps shown in the video. If you get behind in filling the reservoir you can always have your assistant stop the test mode until you catch up. Let me know if you have any questions. Good luck with your 2011 S65!
@robertmontgomery7158
@robertmontgomery7158 4 года назад
You know you just stop the cycling of the abc if you feel you are falling behind?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 4 года назад
Robert Montgomery Good point Robert. Thanks.
@nicolasmartinezsantibanez8596
hello friend how to check the oil level?
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 Год назад
There is a small dipstick in the reservoir. Level should be just below top line.
@DrGamble28
@DrGamble28 2 года назад
It's insane that Mercedes says you dont need to change it when it's clear as day you need to at least every 50k miles. I have 59k miles on my 2014 S550 with MBC and the fluid looks like shit. They were trying to tell me that's normal.
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 2 года назад
Yeah - that just doesn't seem right to have dirty fluid full of particles running around in a system that has tight clearances and small moving parts, like the valves.
@BeatNovakane
@BeatNovakane 9 месяцев назад
Dang how many liter bottles u putting in there? 😂
@johnsworkshop3312
@johnsworkshop3312 9 месяцев назад
Ten. Gets expensive.
@Chrissy212
@Chrissy212 3 года назад
cause that fluid is extremely expensive
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