Ableton Push 3 Impressions + Workflow Making a Track 

For sure, that is a neat trick but at that point might as well just do it in the DAW

Thank you so much! I post at least once a week, appreciate you watching!

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I don't think that works for the screen size. Probably why push 2 never got it.

I used to agree but with the clip view for session mode I think they could pull it off

It makes no sense on the device. At that point why even bother having a compromised version of just having a laptop sitting next to you? Seems like a lot of people are obsessed with this idea of working in "hardware" when we are so far beyond that being idea its not even funny.

I still have a lot to learn but it’s been a lot of fun so far

Agreed

Thanks for watching! I don’t think I’ll ever get rid of my M+ until there’s a 2

True! I sometimes want clips of different lengths but you’re absolutely right I should be using that!

Thank you! Also sorry to contribute to the hype for the gear hahaha

yeah it would be nice to have some browsable groupings that didn’t require using manual tagging

Yep! So this is where I think it’s at a disadvantage vs most other standalone devices as it basically means you need live software to make a real song

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i think push has always been marketed towards people already using ableton, and push 3 is no exception- you even need a license at purchase of the device. i think for me it’s a big advantage to be able to open the project itself, rather than printed stems. but maybe they add that feature down the line

For sure, and I love Ableton. But I get comments asking to compare this to the Force, MPC, and Maschine Plus all the time and compared to those, this is basically standalone lite if you want to finish tracks and stem out

Bro you’re video are fire,❤

Thank you!!

Thank you!!

I need to retest this, I forgot how to change the input from Line to Instrument and adjust the input gain last time I used a guitar so it sounded bad, but I’m 100 percent positive that was my fault cause I forgot how to get to audio settings until I read the manual after. I will definitely dive more into this, but I think it thrives with Guitar and Bass compared to dynamic mics for vocals, because it can properly supply the right amount of gain, and because there are Amp, Cabinet, Pedal, and more plugins that make electric string instruments thrive.

You can plug a guitar into it. Handles high gain guitars really well.

And shift plus play to playback from the arranger?

Whoa for real??? If this is true, that's not a bad workaround.

I don’t think you can actually export the stems after you do this, so I’d probably just do this in controller mode so I could see the recording stuff in realtime and mess with the tracks right after, but this is still neat! Hopefully it means future software updates could allow a simple export stems process after doing this.

Following this…

If you use standalone, do the above ie press shift and record, then trigger your scenes, once finished press save, then you access the push via WiFi on computer (the push section in Ableton when you are on the same WiFi network during standalone) you can open the project from the push tab, press save as to save on your computer then hit collect all and save afterwards and there ya go.

Thank you! 🙏😎

A few of my other videos showcase tracks that I made off camera over hours rather than minutes. Your point about impractical video length is essentially the root of most track from scratch videos sounding simple. Additionally my guess is producers who are full time and deep diving and producing may not be the same folks making weekly RU-vid videos on top of a full time job, but that’s just speculation on my part

Your you're completely right. No one in their right mind is going to make a full song on this, capture all of the footage and go through editing just to post on the tube. These videos are to show the workflow! I loved your beats btw! Great sonic choices.

thank you!

Good callout! I increase the area of the pads that doesn’t change pitch right when I started using it for this reason!

i still think Roli nailed MPE the best so far, but i love seeing it on controllers like this

I’m not sure how you’d get it to boot into Ableton directly and not have any config issues, but assuming that was all set properly I think that would work. Would give you an audio interface, and access to third party plugins. But many of those would boot without any controls on screen. Not sure it’s worth the hassle vs just using like a MacBook and putting it to the side

@@DylanParisMusic AutoRun at Boot no longer working in Windows and Mac OS? I’ve been binge creating .vstpreset of my Plugins to make it so my Push can load any presets I want without touching Computer and mapping most used functions so they on Push Screen.. I’m still using original orange screen Push 1 currently. I LOVE my Force but Ableton used in way I described would be fine for me. Thanks for the info. I was thinking a Mac Mini or Studio for the Heavy Lifting and Push 3 for Control. Currently got Suite on my Macbook and a rinky dink Intel NUC7

@Madmohawkfilms I’ve just never done it! If you’ve already got all that working it sounds like the next move is to buy those items from a place with a good return policy and give it a try hahah

@@DylanParisMusic Hasn’t Ableton stopped selling thru Retailers and only way to get Push 3 New these days is direct from Ableton? Tho I wouldnt be averse to a good deal on a used one from Ebay/Reverb. There’s alot of Crackpot ideas in this Melon Head of mine and they aren’t always as good as the Fantasy once tried in real world but think the MPE on Push 3 pretty well makes me getting a Linnstrument a never gonna happen thing.

I think they have an okay return policy direct for the push 3 from Ableton!

Bless! Thank you

I believe the answer to both of those questions is yes!

@@DylanParisMusic fantastic thanks!

Thanks man! yeah it’s always tricky with free gear. I think as long as people disclose they get stuff for free it’s okay, but it does potentially change the dynamic of what you focus on. Like, even the same exact problem is gonna hit super different if you pay 2000 vs get something for free. In my opinion it doesn’t negate the free person’s opinion, it’s just an element you have to keep in mind as a viewer. For example, as someone who paid 2000 for the OP-1 Field a few months before this came out, I feel pretty bitter. Someone who got that for free probably doesn’t have that feeling. Their feelings are valid, we’re just in different positions.

@@DylanParisMusic Yea absolutely, man. Surprisingly in the photography/cinematography niche of RU-vidrs, I find it way more honest, excluding the big big names that get sent cameras/equipment. Do you hate the op-1 field? It’s such a cool concept, but I don’t think I’d make anything serious on it.

Oh man, I keep putting off making a follow up vid on the OP 1 Field, just cause other stuff keeps coming out

Basically I think the tape workflow ruins the device for me, 4 tape tracks per project, and no undo. It’s neat for people who like it but it’s a creativity killer for me and it undoes everything else that’s awesome about it

@@DylanParisMusic That’s exactly how I felt about it/the rage I would get trying to create with it. It’s such a cool product, and the form factor alone is just neat. Just hoping and praying NI releases a plus 2 with battery and better processor. Then my GAS will be subdued for a few years lol.

I can’t perfectly remember the knobs on the push 2 as far as how they felt and functioned but the ones on the 3 are great other than I keep accidentally pushing out of menus by hitting left on the primary jogwheel on the right

Definitely gonna showcase how I made some tracks on here soon!

@@DylanParisMusic look forward to it

The modern akai’s are the best in the market atm but push 3 has a better ceiling. No need to sell. I’ll be keeping my mpc live until this thing evolves

@Lo_Bias thanks Dylan...your vids ate articulate and eloquent providing balanced and helpful insight. Even if i wanted to buy p3 there are not available for another 8-10 weeks. Have to say though im finding logic pro on ipad v productive and user friendly though zero remotr midi control atm to trigger live loops which is poor.

Hi Sim! I need to work with both devices more before I could pick one. I will say I find the Push 3 to be more compelling, and to generally just “sound better” in every way. That said, it is limited in some features compared to the Force, and it is MUCH more expensive.

Me too, there’s currently no meter built in :( it definitely slowed the UI a bit until I froze one of the tracks

Ok thanks for info! I'm using 2x Akai Force synced via ableton link for live.. with external hw synths already sampled in.. so far thats the best solution I figured out. It seems to me too much to pay 2,5 k for Push3 with ableton licence instead so it depends a lot on how much powerful Push3 really is, thanks again! ,)

I haven’t!

thank you!

I agree that it’s archaic as well

@@DylanParisMusic But attention that I speak in the aspect of handling the machine, the final results of the musical works can be incredibly good.

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This is exactly how I felt after filming that hahahaha

@@DylanParisMusic But seriously.d I'm a fan of your channel. That was a lame thing of me to say. I apologize. ✌🏼️

No worries at all homie ❤️😎

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