Ableton Push 3 is Finally Here!

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The much anticipated Ableton Push 3 is here and it represents a quantum leap in features vs the previous versions. Push 3 can run Ableton Live without being connected to a computer in standalone mode. This allows you to create and capture ideas wherever you go with the push and when youre ready to flesh the idea out, you can connect Push 3 back to the computer for arrangement and automation. The Push 3 also has recieved an incredible upgrade to its playable pads. They now output 3 MPE parameters, slide, per note pitch bend, and polyphonic aftertouch. This addition makes playing the Push 3 much like playing a real instrument. Also the Push is now a full featured audio interface with 1/4" ins and outs, Adat, midi, pedal and cv, and it can even host a midi keyboard via its usb host port. In this video we look at all the new features as well as my personal thoughts about this rad controller for Ableton Live.

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@kravvall4869 Год назад

1 Month after I bought a Push 2 :D

@aLoudSi1ence Год назад

3 months here :(

@supercompooper Год назад

I'm holding until push 69

@ericjeker Год назад

4 months after I bought a defective Push 2 on Reverb and they told me to fck off 🤣

@Megafanfuckingtastic Год назад

My thoughts exactly

@tyeblee23 Год назад

It’s always happens that way 😂 now you just need 2000 for the new one.

@dlsspy Год назад

Man, I can’t believe this costs as much as an OP-1

@sarielorenda 7 месяцев назад

Man, I love your honesty and your channel. It is pure gold! Thanks for the review.

@soundbankzmusik4749 Год назад

Great video, love your perspective always! Will definitely weigh all option before taking the next step

@joshuared1000 Год назад

Love this!! I have the P2, and I have always wanted it to be standalone

@WesWookBeats Год назад

Finally a video from an actual die hard user who gets the platform. Great video!

@RickySweum Год назад

Great review! Super excited about this new product.

@FirstPrincipleMusic Год назад

I love you videos mate, Clear and concise mega

@daveSoupy Год назад

Guess I gotta save for this thing now. It's exactly what ive been waiting for and wanting. finally I can make music without a computer and be happy with it.

@BrandonSmits Год назад

Incredible product review bud.

@kenroy916 Год назад

Hey man! So, I know this isn't the most relevant topic to this particular video, but seeing how you're a master at sound design, I would LOVE to see your techniques and insights on getting a bit more sophisticated and advanced with envelopes or LFOs. By that I mean going beyond the basic ADSR shape and programming envelopes in such a way that their timing and levels interact to create more complex patterns and modulations. This topic combined with your teaching style would make a sick video!

@WillieCarpenter17 Год назад

Pumped you have it! And damn I need a Dosio show asap😅

@lemonhscott7667 Год назад

I think I have to get one. I love my push 1, but I hate that I have to be so tethered to my computer. Push as a Standalone has been something I’ve wanted for 5 years. I want to be able to take it and just go make music wherever.

@mrclaytron Год назад

Oh man, so happy to see your opinions on Push 3. I'm sold! I was about to get myself an MPC Live 2... Not anymore!! Push 3 looks to be a dream machine - I still can't believe Ableton was able to make it stand alone! Hope I can trade in my Push 2

@learnerslikeus Год назад

I agree Live < Push! BUT … Push coupled with akai’s oldie but goodie APC40 mk2 is a great workflow. Launch clips, mix with akai and perform, tweak devices on push. Really fun and intuitive for me.

@mlou4902 Год назад

@@learnerslikeus does it have a note repeat function on it? I was trying to look this up

@andrzejkucharzyk9970 Год назад

@@mlou4902 It does.

@learnerslikeus Год назад

@@mlou4902 Not like the MPC boxes. I suppose you could control an ableton device with a note repeat function though? Or you could set a hat clip to repeat at fast interval.

@andrzejkucharzyk9970 Год назад

@@learnerslikeus Push 2 handles note repeat in typical groovboxy/hardware way. Im sure Push 3 wont be different.

@Artek604 Год назад

Good I hold out for the 2. Just ordered the 3 now (the controller version) and looking forward to playing with it in couple of days and perhaps upgrading it to standalone later this or next year, when the kits will become available.

@ahzootube Год назад

that's my plan too

@1ndividio Год назад

what kits? :)

@timerich123 Год назад

Beautiful

@analogsynthtim8823 Год назад

Keep my Push 2. My whole life set is build around it. And to be true……for 2000 bucks I will go for another Hardware Synthesizer. But I think it is well thought out. So if you are building a new setup it will be a great peace of gear.

@Calebjoyemusic Год назад

Very helpful! Really good point about heat issues! I perform live in FL and during the summer temps are easily above 100 degrees. I don't think the Push 3 would last very long without a fan on it especially in the sun. 😮 This could be an business opportunity to create a sun shade/case for it with a fan cooling. Maybe kids would buy it in FLORIDA! 😊

@vroteg Год назад

100 degrees. Where you live on mercury?

@sampledfuture Год назад

@@vroteg °F

@igmusicandflying Год назад

I just make my own things at home and don't tour, and when I'm traveling, need my laptop for the day job too, so I'm not as keen on the standalone features (more a Nice To Have™ than a Gotta Have It!™ for me). But the new MPE controller pad is something! Basically 3 dimensional touch sensitivity makes for a LOT of fingertip expression. I might consider the base model just for that.

@Peampiin Год назад

I'm most excited for Push 2 to be on sale. I'm not interested if I cant control VSTs, which seems to be the case since its Linux. This is for people who perform and not the producer types imo.

@SpyderBlackOfficial Год назад

Correct

@ajahncodar Год назад

Ay ya know, Push 2 would be a huge upgrade from my Launchpad. I would LOVE having a standalone controller but for whatever $1200+ I'm guessing this will cost, a Push 2 for just a couple hundred sounds way better to me

@ajahncodar Год назад

Holy shit the standalone is 2k. Yeah Push 2 sounds pretty good about now

@valdir7426 Год назад

no vsts in standalone mode.

@jerzboybeats9555 Год назад

I knew it was going to happen. This side by side with my Force will be interesting.

@PoboyMusic Год назад

The force is a beast, will be interesting to see how this compares. I ordered one. The force still has alot of things in its favor. The ableton flow of the push makes effects and things alot easier to deal with than the force IMO. The force has a juicy touch screen though!

@mattgraham1203 Год назад

this is dope. so stoked you got your hands on it early!!! I have a question about adat connectivity, do you think my uad 8x will link up through that? Sometimes I run uad plugins live!

@SeedtoStage Год назад

I dont see why not!

@puneet-404 Год назад

Aw yiss !! ❤🎉

@Turkermusic Год назад

Wow 😮

@bzzrt Год назад

Im not as hyped for the standalone version as i dont travel nor perform. I would love to play with the new pads. Im sure you can turn on and off the various sensitivities and glide functions of the pads when the get in the way when playing instruments that dont need/want these features?

@StevenNess Год назад

drone was cool

@DarkTrapStudio Год назад

A ventilate dock could be a thing for live applications under the sun

@budsticky Год назад

At work and can’t wait to get home and check this video out. Hoping the stand alone version makes it possible to actually feasibly arrange tracks without your DAW. Is arrangement view somehow supported? Or do you have to arrange everything in session view?

@SHLDMusic Год назад

Only session view it seems

@alefillman Год назад

Dope man, how's the battery life?

@squashedout Год назад

after so many years of waiting for push 3, i finally thought they never were going to put one out, so i finally bought a push 2 a couple weeks ago at full price. this is so damn frustrating lol. cool they finally made a stand alone one tho

@RyanMoelter Год назад

You might be able to return it still! I noticed the new one has a 30-day guarantee, yours might too.

@squashedout Год назад

@@RyanMoelter thank you! just checked and i am just outside the range unfortunately. april 11th was my purchase date. thanks for reaching out!!

@SeedtoStage Год назад

Thats rough! Sorry to hear that

@tronlady1 Год назад

Aaaaaah! STANDALONE. Now I’m interested. I got an akai force but it’s too hard to use and heavy 😢

@sternenherz Год назад

This is as exciting as the last few Ableton Updates which had some release notes like "further info box translations for korean language". I congratulate all Push-Fans, but please Ableton, work on Ableton once in a while. :)

@qwertzasdfgyxcvb Год назад

Oh damn. I want one so bad 😂

@mjKlaim Год назад

Hey! Can't wait to get that one, it seems to solve a problem I had with setting up my (small) live idea. Could you make a video about using it in conjonction with your guitar and maybe the guitar go through a guitar processor? I have a Helix and I need to basically use a complex looper+track-player and I think Helix + Pus 3 should work very well, but I'm having doubt because so far no videos I saw talks about the limitations in this setup. I'm guessing the first limitation is that the standlone cannot (of course) use VSTs? (because that requires having VST files specifically built for that hardware/OS, which I'm guessing is neither windows or OSX hahaha). I'm fine with that, but I'm guessing there might be other limitations. One I would like to know is if it's still ok to use Push 3 as a mega looper, doing live looping normally or without hands (using the technique where a midi track drives the changes in recording and playback) etc. It woudl be great if you consider showing this kind of usage and point to the lmiitations. Anyway thanks for your videos, I'm learning a ton!

@scacchomattho Год назад

It's basically ableton live without vsts and no arrangement view

@SeedtoStage Год назад

yeah im going to make a tutorial video for this that will be out in a couple weeks or so

@mjKlaim Год назад

@@SeedtoStage Very cool! Can't wait!

@Lordxfx Год назад

I want the P3, and I will never sell the P2. It's a good thing that you can buy the P3 it in two takes.. I'm now hoping on an integration of both, I do see the possibilities.

@whendoesthisend Год назад

Man oh man, where's NI's answer? Maschine plus is pretty close to this. Im waiting just a little while longer. The temptation is there for sure. Damn it..... Well done Ableton

@JoshElliottMusic Год назад

Hey thanks for the concise run through. I’m super curious. Does it handle looping into clips like Push 2? Can you arm multiple tracks at once? Does it have midi learn?

@SeedtoStage Год назад

Its got all the push 2 features so yes, but as of now you cant midi map from the push itself which i hope they figure out how to do

@JoshElliottMusic Год назад

@@SeedtoStage ah thanks for the info. I wonder if you could create the midi mappings on the computer and they would carry over to standalone..🤔

@SeedtoStage Год назад

@@JoshElliottMusic yep you can def do that. Ive already made a couple sets with that working.

@JoshElliottMusic Год назад

@@SeedtoStage wow excellent! Now I’m very intrigued. As for the overheating that might be an issue. I suppose you could put a laptop cooler under it in those situations

@foruncolo74 Год назад

Please tell me if has rubber finish on, like on Push 1 and 2, they both tend to get sticky and it's a mess 'cause once they are sticky they become a magnet for dust.

@finishingmove77 Год назад

Seems to be different.

@kalebpage3637 Год назад

For those that only need a Push for home studio use, do you feel there are sufficient new features to justify purchasing a new Push 3 over a used Push 2?

@wilkopiano Год назад

Oh dear, they didn’t listen! Yes it competes with ni mashine+ and akai force with standalone mode. (Now a cash cow to sell more ableton max live plugin instruments). But the biggest visible problem off the bat is they did not include dedicated channel strip rec arm , solo, mute buttons. Yet again it seems you have to hold down the top channel select button for 1.5seconds this is simply not good enough when live looping and switching to next track to arm Within a millisecond time frame. Maybe they have done something with the jog wheel instead. And have they sorted out the pedal inputs to stop session mode clip loops that are in focus?

@jsadecki1 Год назад

what monitors are you using?

@DespairQuietlyPlease Год назад

Can you launch clips to record midi into and have note mode on same screen without having to switch? I like that about force using it's touch screen...you can hit the clip in touch screen snd immediately play notes into the clip.

@systmcrsh Год назад

lets not exaggerate , its not a quantum leap, its a marginal leap, and marginal leaps are good, but keep it realistic :)

@SpyderBlackOfficial Год назад

Agreed 💯

@kisho2679 Год назад

how well does it perform live sampling/looping in a DJ set?

@DarkTrapStudio Год назад

I don't understand what you mean about crashes, I barely have no crashes ! Most are from weird, outdated or not updated plugins for sillicon

@mattiacenacchi726 Год назад

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@steffenhenriksen1412 Год назад

Question about the wifi transfer. If my main computer is cabled via Ethernet and not via Wifi does that mean im at a loss for transferring files?!

@AbletonLive365 10 месяцев назад

Where else would you want to compose ??? Dreams do come true.

@damiensimper Год назад

I don’t get why they have to use such a massive footprint. I honestly just don’t have the desk space! There is so much that could be done around the pads and screens to better utilise the frame. 😢

@kristjanwashere Год назад

this just sounds like an ad. are the pads as stiff as the last? no 3rd party plugin support? how dim is the screen when you are just plugged into a laptop and not an outlet?

@SeedtoStage Год назад

I’m going to make a tutorial video and post in a few weeks

@mkalphi3653 Год назад

OHHH MY MOTHERFUCKING GOOOODDD❤❤❤😮😮😮😮😂😂🎉🎉🎉

@DarkTrapStudio Год назад

Would it be possible to upload in 2K for products showcase please ?

@AdamWoodhams Год назад

Okay, does standalone have looper?? Because that would be incredible.

@ckrug32 Год назад

Yes it does!

@ghostplayermusic Год назад

The new push looks really cool… but hopefully this will drive the price down for used push 2 which I’ve been considering for a while!

@BigAlsVarietyHour Год назад

This looks super dope! I love the abiity to plug my guitar directly into the push for a jam session. Do you know if it is possible to plug a microphone directly into the Push 3? I use a condenser mic with 40v phantom power, but I'd be willing to change to a new mic if it's possible to use only the mic + push

@GuyGamer1 Год назад

Yes, it has 48v phantom power.

@SHLDMusic Год назад

@@GuyGamer1 On the FAQ they say there's no phantom power...

@VJFranzK Год назад

(Is there a max 4 live device that runs already for "Autotune" like voice tuning?)

@Wijnfles Год назад

DOES ADAT INPUTS AND OUTPUTS WORK IN STANDALONE?

@patriciaseverance Год назад

Can the standalone one also be tethered to a computer and used like the Push 2?

@SeedtoStage Год назад

The Push 3 can operate just like the other Pushes pluggin in, but it also can run by itself with no computer. The file transfer between computer and push as been painless thus far for me.

@citadelo5ricks Год назад

I don't quite understand the desire to "get rid of the mouse". How is this different than a laptop with a MPE controller?

@dr.gregoryf.maassen2637 Год назад

I wonder if the plastic of the Push 3 is cracking as much as my Push 2. It adds flavor to the music composition for free.

@johngannon Год назад

Picked up the stand-alone but can't help but feel it's pretty cheap of Ableton to not include a midi-dongle (or two) much let alone a copy of the required software to run it. I already own Live but man, that extra $200 seems like a really cheap move to those that don't.

@GrimmusiKRecords Год назад

Fuck. Yes.

@tendrel_sound Год назад

Looks amazing but I’m still holding out for an APC40 mk3. If Akai doesn’t release one in the next twoish years, I may get Push 3. Do you think we’ll get APC40 mk3 soon?

@loicvalenti Год назад

I'm afraid to put coffee on my work desk, and you're bringing the 2k device near a river ~~~~SCARY

@MentalBlue Год назад

What happens when you import a project file from your computer Ableton that has 3rd party plugins?

@SHLDMusic Год назад

Does not work, you have to flatten the track

@MentalBlue Год назад

@@SHLDMusic This is bad. 3rd party plugins should be supported since they say it's a computer actually. That's a major downturn in comparation to NI Maschine. I really wished a bigger screen so I could do the mix and mastering process instead of using Softube Console 1.

@mkalphi3653 Год назад

Wehre is the MPE Drums ??? I dont finde this Pleace help me?!!

@wlwhistlelucy1868 Год назад

I’m not sure it’s worth the money, considering still having to complete projects within the computer software. Here in Canada it’s priced at $2599 so it’s closer to $3000 here. I don’t think I’ll be purchasing this hardware.

@lorrenaelliott161 Год назад

Roli and their MPE blocks went out of business so Push 3 took what they had and ran with it....

@danielmulholland5869 Год назад

Can the push 3 run sampler multisampled instruments?

@SeedtoStage Год назад

of course. It can do anything ableton suite and max for live

@danielmulholland5869 Год назад

@@SeedtoStage incredible. Who needs plugins when you have multisamples! One more question; if you throw tuner on an audio track does the screen display the tuner value? If I remember correctly, push2 never did which meant you couldn't look at the push screen to tune a guitar or a synth.

@vroteg Год назад

Yeey. I wonder if M4L plugins will be crashing this thing as they crash on computer like there is no tomorrow…

@peterr6205 Год назад

Yeah, it's really rather ridiculous how unstable Live is. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot about live, but there are so many stability issues, and so many small, easy quality of life fixes that could be coded in a few days, but live just doesn't have them. I build my own external app that enables me to do a lot of the MIDI piano roll stuff I wish ableton had(add/edit rhythm patterns quickly, automatically transpose to a given key, save a checkpoint in the midi data so you can screw around and still come back without having to copy the clip a ton of times, etc.) But the worst part was creating the midi control surface script. Ableton literally just runs whatever code you put there on the main thread. Code calls itself in a loop? Great ableton is now completely frozen and you have to kill it. I mean it's literally probably first chapter of a software stability 101 book that you don't want to run 3rd party code in a way that can crash the main app. I know, it's audio so latency is super critical, but midi surface scripts are written in Python, and there's still a 100ms tick time with abletonosc, so we're not exactly talking real-time here, so we might as well get stability too.

@vroteg Год назад

@@peterr6205 I don’t use any of m4l devices from side libraries cause I have notice too many issues with m4l devices may crash Ableton. But unfortunately it is expected cause m4l and Ableton thought now one company are not the same. Different coders. And this is exactly what happens when 3rd party program get access to engine. Sometime i want to beat into people heads this simple truth. Many people want to have ARA support but don’t realise how buggy and unstable it can make original program. I pray it will never happen. Without m4l Ableton quiet stable though. At least much more stable than Bitwig which used to be very stable but because developers don’t use it themselves and don’t test it properly now thrives with bugs.

@Ast3rixMusic Год назад

My first thoughts about the heat management are the same. I just really don't think this is an item I would take on the road period. There's just too many things that could happen. Also with just access to wifi only makes it a big no for performance. Kinda disappointed with some of the design decisions of this machine. Especially since we have been waiting for it for a lifetime now and Ableton won't be releasing another machine for a decade so then there is that issue as well.

@SeedtoStage Год назад

To clarify, it doesnt need wifi to perform, just to transfer projects, racks, presets etc

@Ast3rixMusic Год назад

@@SeedtoStage as well as Ableton link with any other devices which requires a constant link with them. In a performance situation external sources can interfere with wifi which makes it vulnerable as a data link. Again really not well thought out. It is a convenience feature added without thought. The transfer rate of that connection is also super poor. If you want to transfer your sample collection it would take forever to do. Just dumb let's be honest. There are much faster and more secure ways to transfer data in 2023.

@denismontyTV Год назад

dammmnn... they took Push to whole different level.

@mufcmusic8514 Год назад

Not really mate they have been slacking for years they've mearly copied NI

@EdvinLaura Год назад

considering its price, it's a crazy expensive toy

@VJFranzK Год назад

5:30 wow, now we can crash portably also!

@girlslovedonut2723 Год назад

LOST ME AT 2K

@Artek604 Год назад

The controller alone is "just" 1k ;)

@imaginarysheeps Год назад

wish there was a cheaper version without the audio interface-- i'm already really happy with mine, and don't have a need for two interfaces. but i understand the reasons why that isn't an option. i would probably get it without standalone, 1K is steep ...but those pads do seem amazing. i was saving up for an osmose but this is a tempting option that would give me a lot of the same expressivity

@MrMallum Год назад

Does it ship with Live bundled?

@vinylarchaeologist Год назад

Live Intro only.

@SHLDMusic Год назад

@@vinylarchaeologist For that price they should give you Suite... That's what Blackmagic design do, when you buy camera or any hardware, you get a full license of their editing software...

@basdewaal2162 Год назад

Good i did not buy the 2 version. Worried though about the crash, I had that regularly with Ableton Live 11, and lost everything.

@harryhill8543 Год назад

Its a no from me on the stand alone. The problem for many of these stand alone you dont need a laptop machines is they weigh more than a laptop. Kinda defeats the prupose, plus two grand??

@robertfimbres9628 Год назад

I hope they fixed those terrible buttons

@mufcmusic8514 Год назад

They look so shit don't they

@myceliumtechno Год назад

A high quality headphone output? I just heard Stimmig say the headphone output was all but impressive. The main outs are great though, he said.

@thorpreston-esler1445 Год назад

Push 2 is one of my least used pieces of gear unfortunately so I'm not at all bothered. I'll wait for Push 4 or 5 before upgrading at this rate. I don't think 3 is a "quantum leap" frankly. I think it's a little premature actually. There's so much to dive into with Push 1 and 2 already. I just don't see the appeal sorry.

@VPROXE-HELLRAISER Год назад

I replaced mine with the bcr2000

@thorpreston-esler1445 Год назад

@@VPROXE-HELLRAISER yeah man. mine has just collected dust. it's really rather unfortunate for me to even say it. i've thought about going bcr2000 from the beginning heh

@anndrew_gi Год назад

@@VPROXE-HELLRAISER I use BCR 2000 too (with the script for Ableton from BEHRINGER BCR XL BY SIGABORT)

@mufcmusic8514 Год назад

The Push 3 is double the price it should be also

@jsadecki1 Год назад

As it's even more premature considering the price at it's just absolutely insulting in my eyes this as as bad as the whole deal with waves trying to scam everyone

@valdir7426 Год назад

wow; a dawless crash. apart for actual stage use having a standalone version is really a first world problem. the push 2 is already a "computerless" experience; as is the push 3 without computer guts. I get it in a way but it goes to show how the whole "dawless discourse" was always circular logic. you're just using a different machine; with a tinyer screen. the push is actually a nice example of how to work on software while having an immediate; tailor-made; hands-on experience. If you want to get "away" from the computer get a usb extension cable.

@DaikiGuitar Год назад

too expensive

@tralfmusic Год назад

Cool controller, but for that price I'd rather get a 4090.

@tiskoxxx7293 Год назад

Whhhaattt??!!!🎉❤

@Ipsissimus Год назад

Don't forget you need Ableton Suite to really use this so it'll set you back about 1500$ Edit: and that's just the standard version, let alone the standalone that'll set you back 2.5k. In my opinion? F that.

@mufcmusic8514 Год назад

Proper rip off lol

@PoboyMusic Год назад

They should have included the full version of Suite with it to sweeten the deal.

@jsadecki1 Год назад

Honestly it looks ok but absolutely that price this is just insulting they know that we will pay anything for it but that is just unbelievably insulting there's no way it cost anywhere near that for them to make this thing

@SeedtoStage Год назад

So its an MPE controller. Looking at other MPE controllers like the Roli Seaboard Rise at 1300 and the Osmose Expressive E at 1800, the push without standalone mode is only 1k. AND it has an audio interface built in. Is it worth double for standalone? idk thats less black and white for me.

@jsadecki1 Год назад

@Seed to Stage yea im inclined too agree with what you said there actually and the new pads look great and can be upgraded in future so makes sense

@mvandell Год назад

I think they should make a pure controller option.. ie scrap the interface.

@jsadecki1 Год назад

@@mvandell not sure what you mean if you mean one that isn't stand alone that plugs into the computer they have made two versions those one that is standalone and there's one that just goes in the computer that you can upgrade later I think

@mvandell Год назад

@@jsadecki1 I mean a 'studio' version.. ie. just the controller aspect without standalone and the audio interface. Which 99.9% of us already have.

@EdvinLaura Год назад

why do i need a $2000 device to make music without a mouse, if I have a mouse? :D It's better to spend the money on some more useful gear.

@systmcrsh Год назад

@5:00 yeah but its bigger and heavier than a laptop, i'm not sayin' push 3 is bad, but c'mon

@aemythjensen Год назад

But still no support for arrangement view...

@thorpreston-esler1445 Год назад

Yeah to me this is just like Push 2.5 or something. I don't see the appeal really. The jog wheel wasn't enough.

@mufcmusic8514 Год назад

@@thorpreston-esler1445 proper rip off mage

@SpyderBlackOfficial Год назад

The high price & not being able to use your own Vsts on the device is a deal breaker

@lorrenaelliott161 Год назад

Just to reiterate -Ableton Note was the app that they gave us to start a project away from the DAW....I appreciate they feel the need to compete after they parted ways with Akai who made the Push 1 for them and then left to go do the Akai Force... but.... erm...well.... Let's see how things are in 6 months' time.....I appreciate the Roli style MPE capabilities but... well only time will tell. I look forward to the onslaught of RU-vidr content explaining why we so badly need this in our setup...I am gueasingthe target market is the DAWless crowd who don't like the laptop + controller combo... Just As Maschine controller + PC migrated to the standalone, let's hope this catches on...

@javoybeats Год назад

what.

@rizzinthebox7124 Год назад

Sorry but 2000 Euros is a perfect FAIL!!!!!!!

@mufcmusic8514 Год назад

£1700 for a standalone LOL, £900 for the Maschine Standalone. Well funny. Ableton trying it.

@NimbleX-MC Год назад

Arrangement view is not an option in stand alone. That is a hard no from me. It is basically not Ableton live as stand alone. Also it cannot host VSTs. And if you want to go with the controller starting PUSH 3 the upgrade is all in or not at all. The upgrade should be offered as separate parts: Operating system, battery and the SSD should be able to be purchased from any brand you like. I can tell you from experience, SSD cards do go on sale. All of this together tells me to just stay with my PUSH 2. I do not need my PUSH to be stand alone. PUSH 3 is too expensive and incomplete Ableton Live and caters to taking the money of the music hobbies it is not a device for a music professional. They are working hard to make it look good.

@garethde-witt6433 Год назад

A totally useless toy not an instrument a toy.

@joeymc5272 Год назад

So can you use the standalone version in both standalone and controller mode like the push 2, and does the controller mode have all the new features like mpe, audio interface etc…? Or do you need standalone for this? Trying to. Decide whether to get one but im not to hyped about standalone, just the controller version but want to make sure controller version comes with all the same features thanks. Lastly how do the pres in the push audio interface sound? Comparable to high end sound cards or subpar like maschines? Thanks

@PoboyMusic 11 месяцев назад

The pres are pretty weak. Fine for guitar I guess but not for a dynamic mic like the SM57.

@joeymc5272 11 месяцев назад

Thanks, that’s what I figured. I’d be willing to pay a bit more to get good quality conversion but then again, I already have a higher end audio interface, so maybe it makes sense just to have a simple one in order for people to use it on the go would not be able to use it for any serious recording, though in my opinion

@PoboyMusic 11 месяцев назад

@joeymc5272 yeah I tried setting up a mic to record my piano and it bairley registers even on high. Hopefully they allow external interfaces like akai has done. Still kinda defeats the purpose of standalone tho.

@joeymc5272 11 месяцев назад

@@PoboyMusic yup exactly why im waiting on music gear nowadays until kinks are figured out. If you put a cloud lifter or some type of preamp you should be able to boost the mic a bit. But that means more gear which means not really doing the dawless situation. Im not getting the portable version because they have years yet before technology get to the point of a full daw in a box. I bet another decade