I'm just coming up on 2 years with Ableton, having used Intro up until January... I'm constantly blown away (and borderline overwhelmed hahaaa) by what's possible with macros, racks, and modulation with this DAW 😳
Actually, this manual mode is very similar to something that can be done using the remap modulator in the Kilohearts ecosystem, but this would work well in Live's ecosystem. Very cool! Thanks for going through this!
This manual mode reminds me of some of the modulators within phaseplant, seems fantastic! Probably the first video that's made me want to install live 12 immediately (I purchased it, I'm just waiting a few more months before installing).
I probably wouldn't use it when producing, because as you say automation lanes can be a lot more flexible for this, but for making complex racks this opens up so many opportunities!
Pretty neat. I wish there was a way of importing your own waveshapes or a way of generating some unique ones inside of the device. It would be interesting to start stacking shaper devices that modulate the one after it. That would be one way of creating unique waveshapes.
Definitely agree! I'm sure it'd be possible with some tweaks to the device in Max, but I find drawing in shapes to not be too bad. You could always save a rack with a few shapes that you've designed to save some 'preset shapes'. :)
Can this tool be used to side chain to a source. That way when the source plays, the envelope triggers rather than running constantly in the background. Can the trigger button be mapped by any chance? I want to side chain 808s for hip hop and trap, so I’m afraid the fixed patterns won’t work for that
It could, but you'd be better off using a different tool. Shaper MIDI does basically the same thing as Shaper but gets triggered on MIDI input, so you could put that on your kick track for instance and map it to control a utility on your 808. Or you could look into other Max 4 Live tools like Duck Buddy, Chain Shaper or Ducker. :)
When you want to run a shaper or LFO on top of existing lane automation. Or when manually tweaking an effect without going back-and-forth between the controller and the effect. A killer feature, I've been waiting for it for years - most other systems work like this.
Exactly what @BartWronsk said! I find mod really useful for lots of applications, the particular application in the video just worked better with remote. :)
Remote completely overtakes the parameter, meaning that you can't manually move it or even automate it. Mod allows you to still move the parameter manually and also automate it, even map it to macros! Both have their uses, but mod is generally more useful, although it's only been introduced with Live 12. :)
