About people who NEVER hear the gospel

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A transparent and thorough treatment of the question from a biblical perspective. Various issues are dealt with such as why people get judged in the first place, what all people should know, biblical examples of people who were saved without hearing the gospel, a rebuttal of universalism, how we ought not suppose that all religions offer a path to God, and how the reality of people responding to the gospel means that we need to be serious and vigilant in evangelism.
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@gillianwright356 2 года назад

Thankyou Pastor Mike for this careful and helpful explanation! C.S.Lewis said "Nobody is saved except through the blood of Christ. But not everyone who is so saved is aware of it."

@JesusProtects 9 месяцев назад

Explain to me how is that possible because it sounds like sentimentalism theology to me. Or calvinism election, wich is heretical. You may say like many others "that's not very loving of you", and I say, if we do not rebuke a false gospel that will save no one, are we loving our neighbor? I don't think so.

@Fassnight 6 месяцев назад

That is just a horrible and false understanding of salvation

@Fassnight 6 месяцев назад

Your understanding of Calvinism is false,@@JesusProtects No Calvninist would say someone is saved without having faith in Christ

@crafterman2345 3 года назад

If you're reading this, God bless you. No particular reason I say that other than that I've been too caught up in politics and fighting online. We all need to take a step back and pray.

@cornpop6969 Год назад

God bless you!

@eli_tnpmartha1943 Год назад

and GOD bless you ❤

@nanunutsunl5345 Год назад

@@eli_tnpmartha1943 May God bless you and the rest of the church

@JFord1234 10 месяцев назад

God bless you..... The majority of people that argue online are just wanting to spread hate and your not going to change their minds... Find people that are genuinely wanting to live a better life and spread the word of Christ... Again God bless you and keep your mind fixed on Christ

@PaulWillinghamIII 2 месяца назад

And may God bless you!!!

@JayantSinghBisht 3 года назад

I am from India. Your teaching is biblical rather than theological. That's impressive. I want to know more about your ministry.

@digitalmusic4803 10 месяцев назад

In India, you might be lucky with the Saint Thomas Christians. They are one of the oldest (ancient) christian communities in the world. You could possibly have conversations with them in your native tongue (depending where in India you live or such).

@jaziybabe 2 года назад

This makes me SO grateful that I was born into a family that loves the Lord and that I had the opportunities I have had to learn about the truth of Jesus. Praise the Lord!

@nicholascarter6543 2 года назад

Amen!

@palupa42playz43 Год назад

agreed

@danacook2137 16 дней назад

@@jaziybabe me too

@ceciliaramos2280 6 лет назад

Thank you so much. I only started listening a few months ago. My friend suggested I listen to your sermon on Jehovah's witness. I have a friend who is in that cult. I have been listening ever since. Thank you for your preaching. You make everything easy to understand. Clear verse by verse teaching. May God continue to bless you and your ministry.

@adonaisservant1592 2 года назад

Well I thought I was the only one that first saw him through that video 😆 🤣

@JesusProtects 9 месяцев назад

How's your friend doing? Is he out of the cult? I pray God bless him with the truth.

@EdwardJOrmsby Год назад

This sermon is the most biblically sound review and answer I have seen to the question of “What about those who have never heard of Jesus”? Thank you for your careful and loving diligence Pastor Mike.

$@fractalcabbage$

@fractalcabbage 3 года назад

I've come to the same conclusion and I'm so happy to hear I'm not alone in this. I often think of the examples of the Ethiopian eunuch and Cornelius; people seeking God who's searches were met with answers. I cannot see how God would reveal Himself in creation and conscience to those who never heard the gospel, and yet deny salvation to any who truly plead like the tax collector: "God have mercy on me, a sinner."

@IsaacCoverstone Год назад

I have presented this question many times to many different Christians. All of them presented weak and unconvincing arguments to defend this theology. I came to this video hoping for some brilliant defense, but Mike is not any better than the other people I spoke with.

@yvonnehedeker3441 3 года назад

Thank you for taking the time to prepare this information and making it so accessible. Your humility and openess are so refreshing and also engaging into what you share.

@patrick-rhodamyers8426 4 года назад

Thank you for this clear, humble, biblical teaching. Another example from scripture: What gospel did God call Jonah to preach to over 100,000 people in the ‘great city’ of Nineveh? Whatever it was, it caused them to repent and believe in God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

@freedomfighter4990 2 года назад

Found this video on 3/13/22. Mike has a BIG library, more than 600 videos on this channel. I look forward to watching all of them in time. But I've been looking for a scripture-based response to this exact question about those who are never exposed to the gospel for 20 yrs. MAY GOD BLESS YOU & KEEP YOU, PASTOR MIKE!

@elizabethmathew9730 4 года назад

All my doubts were cleared.Thanks be to God

@garyg7549 4 года назад

My goodness Mike I'm learning so much from your videos. You tackle the tough subjects that we Face everyday. This one here is an essential truth to understand and explain when we are witnessing. Thank you for doing such a great job here. I love it. Then the other video on Romans 9 and Calvinism was absolutely fantastic as well. I took two pages of notes. Praise God. Thank you brother.

@rajanishanker7386 2 года назад

This is such an AMAZING sermon. Thank you Pastor Mike.

@dellahendrickson3353 6 лет назад

This such an encouraging message. I grew up in the former Soviet Union and there were many many millions of people who were born into the revolution and died before the collapse and never had a chance with the Gospel. You are also correct about the fact that God doesn’t really owe us anything. When people ask me “what about all the horrors in this world”; it’s exactly what I answer them.

@philipbuckley759 5 лет назад

try reading the book....Eternity in Their Hearts....and see if this would apply to the conditions that you have mentioned...….

@josephtucker9612 5 лет назад

@Patrick Montgomery John 3:3-5 3 In response Jesus said to him: “Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.” 4 Nic·o·deʹmus said to him: “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter into the womb of his mother a second time and be born, can he?” 5 Jesus answered: “Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. So what happens to the people that died and was never born again? Are they able to enter into the Kingdom of God anyway? Did Jesus lie when he said "“Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God"?

@josephtucker9612 5 лет назад

@Patrick Montgomery My question remains. In Della's post, what about those who died before the collapse and never had a chance with the Gospel? They never had a chance to come to the knowledge of the gospel and be born again. 2 Peter 3:9 (NIV) The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. How does your religion explain this conundrum?

@josephtucker9612 5 лет назад

@Patrick Montgomery The bible has the answer but your religion does not have the correct interpretation so your religious leaders ignore scriptures they do not understand. It is a long explanation but I will show you the short explanation. Re 5:9, 10 And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you BOUGHT PEOPLE FOR GOD OUT OF EVERY TRIBE AND TONGUE AND PEOPLE AND NATION, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and PRIESTS to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rev 20:6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years God''s kingdom is in heaven. Those going to heaven will be kings and priests and rule with Jesus for 1,000 years. Priests officially represent God to the people they served, instructing them about God and his laws. In turn, they represented the people before God, interceding and pleading for the people. Why are priests needed in heaven if everyone going there are saved? Rev 20:6 speaks about a first resurrection where the second death has no authority. Doesn't that imply a resurrection to follow? Who would be in the resurrection to follow where the second death does have authority? How can they be resurrected to heaven if they are not born again? Matthew 5:5 “Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth. Psalms 37:11 But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. Psalms 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it If the resurrection to follow is an earthly resurrection. The people can be instructed about the gospel through the priests. The people become the subjects of the kings that go to heaven in the first resurrection. They do not need to be born again to see the kingdom of God in heaven since they will live forever on the earth. If a person then rejects the gospel the second death does have authority over them and they will die in their sins.

@josephtucker9612 5 лет назад

@Patrick Montgomery Most Christians are taught they either go to heaven or go to hell. They ignore God's other promises about living forever on the earth. If you think these scriptures are errors and heresies then show me where I went wrong by pointing them out. You did not know how people that never heard the Gospel could be saved and go to heaven without being born again. You was going to leave it up to Jesus. But God has already revealed this.

@deborahleclerc7733 4 года назад

I'm asked this question constantly. Mike your God sent. Bless you and your family.

@ryankimbell8762 3 года назад

Thank you so much for addressing this! I've had this question for most of my life and I've had to rely on faith, knowing God is just. Dante even addressed this issue in Paradiso 19, and came to the same conclusion.

@nolanwilliford8881 3 года назад

The beauty of grace is that it makes life not fair.

@IndianaJoe0321 26 дней назад

God is good, gentle, wise, kind, just, and ... definitely fair. "From one man He has made every nationality to live over the whole earth and has determined their appointed times and the boundaries of where they live. He did this so that they might seek God, and perhaps they might reach out and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us." ~ Acts 17:26-27

@AaronTrainerFit 3 года назад

I love your new videos, but I also REALLY like seeing you preach. Idk what it is, but I like the different feeling. Man just good content all around. continue to let God guide you in what type of content to make, He clearly is doing well! Thank you, and more over thank the Lord, for your RU-vid content! It's been a blessing in my walk and really challenged me (I think I would have been offended if not for God opening my eyes. You have poked some of my idols and they didn't like it!) and I am closer to Christ for it. Thank you again!

@Fan-vm3sv 7 месяцев назад

Bless you, Mike, for your scholarship and passionate, humble delivery. I hang on your every word. Life-changing stuff. Thank you so very much.

@r5491 2 года назад

Pastor Mike, I’ve been watching your videos for many months and this one has really motivated me to evangelize especially to my friends and family. God Bless your ministry.

@digitalmusic4803 10 месяцев назад

Don t you get it? He says: Wrath comes upon you for the sins you commit. That brings the wrath of God upon you. But otherwise he preaches: "God hates the sin, not the sinner - so why would the sinner be punished. Rubbish. And in the Romans: "I, God am the potter, I mold some to be wicked, some to be saints." So why would he first make wicked people, and the have a feeling of wrath upon them? So his analogy with teh firefighter is not valid. Correct me if I misunderstood, thank you wonderful people. Thank you also to Mike Winger for bravely defending God, although in my view with flawed data.

@tamaking7104 5 лет назад

Abraham's faith was in YHWH who revealed himself as "I AM", Jesus pointedly revealed that he is the "I AM". Salvation is through Christ,, regardless of the age or place of revelation. All tings are FROM and TO the Father, THROUGH Christ, the Word, and BY the power of the Holy Spirit whether we speak of Creation, Revelation or redemption.

@Apollos2.2 3 года назад

Great point!

@bufficliff8978 3 года назад

That's pretty

@chriswest8389 2 года назад

U may be right T, however, check out Bi lical Unitarian, I believe it's called. His claim is that ANYone who's on a mission from God, can be bestowed with the ' I am that I am tag?

@bobbywolfe7191 Год назад

Jesus did not say He was the I Am He simply said before Abraham was God and He has always been with God...John 17:3 plainly tells us that there is one God and it the God of Jesus, John 20 :17 Jesus tells us again His God is our God.....peace, love, and light

@nicholascarter6543 11 месяцев назад

@@bobbywolfe7191Thomas said to Jesus “my Lord (wait for it….) “AND” MY GOD..(John 20:28). John 1:1 says : In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Colossians 1:16 says : For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. I COULD CONTINUE ENDLESSLY WITH THIS

@churchindangerberean3518 3 года назад

Thank-you so much for this presentation! The LORD Bless You and Keep You!

@adamhorstman3398 4 года назад

Wow. Great job tying in the exclusive claims of the Gospel with the inclusive love of God. This presentation is one of the most balanced I've heard.

@shawnahathaway4762 Год назад

I was driving home from church today and this exact question was on my mind ... now, I can't sleep and this video comes up! Wow! Thank you ❤️

@stephmastro123 2 года назад

Fantastic teaching! So well explained. Thank you Mike.

@missinglink_eth 26 дней назад

2024 July 21 questions skeptics episode brought me here. Great message ❤

@cazdl 3 года назад

We are the ones who bring the special revelation that the thirsty ones need to be saved. Let’s just preach the gospel.

@Keesha_Hardy 3 года назад

We have to be careful with this though. Us simply spreading the gospel isn't the special revelation, it's God Himself, His Holy Spirit, working within us, that does the special revelation.

@nicholascarter6543 Год назад

Thank you Mike Winger. Please keep it up. I’m praying for you brother. I praise God for you my brother in Christ!!! ❤

@garylintner1587 5 лет назад

Outstanding pastor Mike !! Well done. I'm learning a lot about all the truths you say from gods holy word. Thank you and God bless you and all who believe in our lord Jesus

@1234poppycat 4 года назад

You would do better to go to "Catholic Answers" Why not progress to know God better ? Direct from Jesus …. leave the man made churches for the Catholic Church. .. Contrary to what Winger says Catholicism is at one with the bible as nothing in Catholicism is contrary to the bible. Every mass has four bible readings including the Eucharist which is based on John 6 & 14 other scripture verses. See Dr Scott Hahn a protestant pastor who turned to God in the Catholic Church

@garyg7549 4 года назад

@@1234poppycat may I please ask this sir, why would I go to man to tell me what HE THINKS God says, when I can go directly to the Bible to see what God says? If I go to the Bible it says this for instance, and I don't think this is taught in the Roman Catholic Church. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Ephesians chapter 2 look at verse 8. "For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God," then look at verse 9 "not of Works, lest any man should boast." They definitely don't teach that in Roman Catholic Church I believe correct me if I'm wrong, they teach Works based salvation. Check this out in the Holy Bible as well. Titus Chapter 3. That's in the New Testament right after 1st and 2nd Timothy and before Philemon and Hebrews. Look at verse 5 "not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his Mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost, which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ Our Savior (in verse 6.) Wow glory to God my savior. AJA, are you born again ( have you had the washing of regeneration,) have you been saved from the Wrath to come?

@kimmattingly5395 4 года назад

Thank you for this. I’ve been really struggling with this question.

@danacook2137 16 дней назад

I saw this very question asked on facebook today. I was searching for a good way to answer. Your absence is exactly what I believe but didn’t know how to explain it clearly. I was going to send this to the individual, but got back on facebook and couldn’t find the post again. I will share it to my page in the hopes that the right people will watch.

@leanagonzalez467 21 день назад

Thank you for taking the time to do this.

@shaderbytes 5 лет назад

wow that verse at the end has really got me thinking about some things .. i pray for God to give me wisdom in these matters.

@lifebeyondtheveil-dougglan2970 3 года назад

Mike you are a true blessing to the kingdom don't stop. I was truly blessed by this word today

@betrion7 3 года назад

Did He?

@shaderbytes 3 года назад

@@betrion7 always ongoing ;) God knows what he is doing , we are co-workers in Gods service, it remains his work. When we dont know , it is safe to fall back on this concept : our knowing does not change the reality of Gods work. He is Just in every way. Even as I seek more knowledge, I pray for content in what I do know , what has been revealed unto me and pray for God to use me in any way required at what ever level of wisdom im at within my current context of existence.

@philemongandhi6286 4 года назад

Praise the Lord for the presentation in this video! A better way, in my humble opinion, of contending for the faith entrusted to us than engaging in a debate with those who spread lies knowingly or otherwise! Almost all aspects of the topic have been covered in this video, and in an amiable manner too! I agree, we can know the answers to even the hardest questions when we study the Bible! We also have received the spirit that is from God so that we may know the things that are freely given to us by God! Thank God for the electronic media that makes the gospel more accessible, just as in the case of Kaustav who sought and found the Lord Jesus Christ on RU-vid!

@mental_infirmity 5 лет назад

Thanks, look fwd to running into these scriptures in the future.

@tanyagraces 3 года назад

I heard this sermon twice. To help me understanding about people who never heard the gospel. Thanks a lot !

@63stratoman 4 года назад

I think this verse best sums things up: And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: - Acts 17:30 Not certain of the Old Testament times but in this age it is quite clear! Jesus is the ONLY way and the only way people will come to a saving faith in Christ is by hearing and understanding the Gospel message (Rom. 10:14-17)! God will use his creation along with our conscience (Rom. 1:19-21, 2:12-15) to bear witness of himself and the fact that something isn’t right but it is the Gospel message and the Word of God that will bring one to an actual saving faith and understanding this makes me keenly aware of the incredible responsibility I have when he gives me opportunity to be a witness for him! I am a Calvinist but a balanced, biblical Calvinist acknowledges both God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility!

@annekaminju1879 4 года назад

Ray Sauter Matthew 28:18-20, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38

@reneerose9730 Год назад

This was sooooo interesting and got my mind really intrigued. I love how your mind wires abs your insight

@PaPaFresh 2 года назад

Keep teaching brother, thank you

@Pepsiguy 4 года назад

You should add each verse that you use in the description so we can refer to them later when we’re not driving.

@nikkidasso6623 3 года назад

Haha

@theepicenter4106 3 года назад

You're so good why don't you do it? 😆

@ifehansson2254 3 года назад

A bit of appreciation that we all get this and for free would be nice. Thank about a sense of entitlement 🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️

@Pepsiguy 3 года назад

@@ifehansson2254 Entitlement? How’s the temperature up there on that high horse?

@sovereigngodlisaloves9525 2 года назад

I enjoy the older messages. As I step out in Christ, what an inspiration how nervous pastor seemed at times--focused, however, on obedience unto the LORD'S will, and the ordained purpose assigned. There's no better cause than the Almighty's Soveregnty to "step out of one's box." 🙏 ✝️ 🙌

@sandidobberke9859 2 года назад

Praise the Lord for you and all your teaching thank you

@inTruthbyGrace 6 лет назад

@30:55 "how many people really are like this and they're out somewhere and maybe they're in a pagan culture surrounded by false religions and then they realize..." as someone who was cluelessly Catholic, and was converted by tribulation to look to God alone in _that tribulation_ questioning everything _but_ the Creator and the name of Jesus, which I did confess but hardly understood, I can testify that God Himself *will walk you right out of your error* if you are trusting Him above yourself. In our modern world that is hard and my tribulation effectively rendered me helpless (so that made it a lot easier to quit pursuing the way that seemed right in my _own eyes_ as I kind of didn't have many other options) but that blind walk in raw faith in God and this Jesus I did not know very well, was very biblical; God gave me understanding as needed, by deposit that I didn't even know was 100% consistent with the teaching I would later find in the bible. In other words, Isaiah 55 and Isaiah 30:20 in the _Greek_ are 100% true. If you seek God with your whole heart, He will guide you to His word through His understanding that He gives you in your faith. I was thrilled to eventually come to scriptures to see everything I _had already_ experienced was actually written. Isaiah 30:20-21 In the Greek: And The Lord will give you the bread of tribulation and straight water and those leading you astray will no longer approach you because your eyes will behold those leading you astray. and your ears will hear the words of those behind you misleading you saying "this is the way we should go, in it to the right or to the left"

@VickyRBenson 4 года назад

inTruthbyGrace, thank you for your testimony. God is faithful to reveal Himself to those who seek Him.

@1234poppycat 4 года назад

Why then did you not learn about your Catholic Faith ??? You actually gave up the sacraments and especially the Eucharist for this !!! Why not progress to know God better ? Direct from Jesus …. leave the man made churches for the Catholic Church. .. Contrary to what Winger says Catholicism is at one with the bible as nothing in Catholicism is contrary to the bible. Every mass has four bible readings including the Eucharist which is based on John 6 & 14 other scripture verses. See Dr Scott Hahn a protestant pastor who turned to God in the Catholic Church

@mimishella4915 4 года назад

Great teacher and teacher. Thanks.

@DavidIstre 4 года назад

Agreed with so much of what you've said here and I appreciate your diligence and labor to answer one of the most challenging and important questions that people face when hearing the gospel. My biggest divergence here is on taking the word "every" from Revelation 5:9 to refer to tribal identities in time. In other words, I think the assumption that this means someone must have been saved from a tribe that the Cherokee conquered and wiped out before the gospel arrived to North America is flawed because it both fails to deal with the nature of apocalyptic genre and doesn't acknowledge that the people of those tribes live on under different tribal banners. The Cherokee might conquer a tribe, but they will probably take some of their women and their lineage lives on. Or some members of that tribe might flee and live on somewhere else. Or there might be multiple tribes under different names that are all really the same tribe of people. Regardless, I don't think Apocalyptic literature was meant to be taken this literally. Again, I just want to convey my appreciation for this video and I am definitely going to be sharing this with friends. You may not ever get this message, but I am praying for your ministry with thanksgiving in my heart. May Christ Captivate!

@john-doe842 11 месяцев назад

Great sermon and motivation for going out there and saving souls.

@roysammons2445 4 года назад

I was waiting for the Q&A session at the end......

@brenmizer123 4 года назад

Roy Sammons Yes, me too.. Somehow, not included.

@Watlington4 6 лет назад

Thanks Mike! I always had this question, and I am glad you provided your thoughts on it.

@fiftycalguru 5 лет назад

Needed this I was trying today to explain this

@dannyinbflat3980 4 года назад

Your premise holds true for any who were saved before the death, burial and resurrection, but not after. There is no other way to be saved but by Him and in His name. If you can show otherwise I am willing to have my mind changed. Thank you dear brother for you work in Jesus' name.

@thestraightroad305 3 года назад

Thank you for your courteous and clear response in true humility. So rare. I wondered the same thing and I hope Mike answers.

@dannyinbflat3980 3 года назад

@@thestraightroad305 Godspeed fellow Christian and friend.

@bufficliff8978 3 года назад

I genuinely don't understand your question but am not even sure which part to ask for clarification on. The "but not after," is probably my point of confusion because once we die there isn't any time left to be saved, but if I'm understanding you correctly, you may believe that salvation can be gained after death? I'm sure my misunderstanding is a very simple fix and am certain you won't ever see this, but I'm so curious to understand what you mean

@dannyinbflat3980 3 года назад

@@bufficliff8978 Thanks Buffi for asking. You are right in asking about our own death being the end of our chances. My point was that SINCE the cross there is no OTHER way to get to heaven but through Jesus. Those that died before Jesus ... their sins could not be paid for by the animal sacrifices ... it was still the blood of Christ --- yet to be shed --- that paid the price. Sorry if this answer is more confusing than before. : ) God bless you friend.

@jonathanlaesch8702 Год назад

Great Teaching. God bless you.

@zebra2346 6 месяцев назад

Very good biblical answers, thank you

@tonysmith5812 4 года назад

I listened carefully and I could take issue with a few points, however, This subject was handled really well. A great teaching.

@NataliaRodriguez-nj6md 3 года назад

Share those issues, please!

@canabiss8297 2 года назад

you obviously didn't have any real issues otherwise you would have listed them

@gregstill8292 Год назад

I am so glad to hear Mike speak of this. I previously have come to the same conclusion - that the propitiation of Christ can be applied to those who have never heard of him. “Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” I followed the same lines of thinking to arrive at this position: thinking of the OT believers, thinking of Moses’ father-in-law, thinking of Melchizedek, abd etcetera. Moreover, in Romans it speaks of those who, having observed the grandeur of creation being “without excuse” if they reject the revelation of God. If “general revelation” makes God known so that they are “without excuse”, then it follows that they are not without opportunity. I also found Acts 17 to bear on the subject.

@maryvalentine9090 2 года назад

11:34... When a nonbeliever… Or a believer for that matter, asks me, “What about people who have never heard the gospel, Have no knowledge of the Old Testament or any of the patriarchs… Just none of it, how are they judged?“ I also go to the passage in Romans that talks about the law of God, the knowledge of good and evil, The knowledge of right and wrong written on their hearts. Then I also add this: “I know the nature of God and that is that he is 100% just, rich in mercy, and compassionate. I believe firmly that the scripture supports that God will deal with any such individual with mercy and justice. I also know that just because he hasn’t stated exactly how he deals with such people does not mean he will not be just and merciful with them. I believe that even a person who has never heard of the gospel can make an internal choice to love good and hate evil and feel remorse for having failed in doing good.

@FelipeSxy01 4 года назад

"It is written in the Prophets: ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from Him comes to Me-" this verse is so true and real to me because I refused Jesus for a while but was open to Him but I believed in YHWH with all my heart needless to say it wasn't long till God revealed to me His Son and I believed because if you believe in Moses you believe in Jesus.

@calebpagan2226 3 года назад

Yes if you truly seek God with all your heart he will reveal himself to you. Jesus is God!

@adamropp4757 2 года назад

Interesting. Good for you. But what of those who have desperately seeked God, cried and begged for him to reveal himself and He never did? Please spare me the “god reveals himself through his love and word.”

@cheshirekat1023 2 года назад

@@adamropp4757 Everyone travels the road at different speeds. So too is everyone’s journey to God. Keep seeking, He will reveal Himself to you when it makes the most impact on you.

@iericnierman 2 месяца назад

Thank you for this teaching.

@clarksetters 4 года назад

It is sure great that God has a plan for everyone to be able to hear his gospel in this life and after death, as this estate on earth continues in the post earth life.

@foevatankin 5 лет назад

Love you man!

@bigjimfanning 3 года назад

So, I have been a believer for 24 years. I know that the unsaved are judged by their conscience. The part I have struggled with is that I know how people are judged based on their conscience but how do they get salvation from this judgment without ever hearing the gospel? Aren’t they just set up to fail? For instance, the ancient Chinese or the Aztecs pre-Spanish. They have the law on their heart and are judged by this but from birth to death have no chance to change their destination due to never hearing that there is a cure for sin. I have finally come to the fact that God can save who he wants to and no man will have an excuse. What that looks like on the day of judgment who knows. He didn’t have to save anyone and maybe people don’t hear the Gospel because God knows they would reject it even if they did.

@joshuabader8560 5 лет назад

Great words about the Word

@Ally-ur2rr 5 лет назад

great video.. answered questions have had for a long x. TY.

@1234poppycat 4 года назад

Why not progress to know God better ? Direct from Jesus …. leave the man made churches for the Catholic Church. .. Contrary to what Winger says Catholicism is at one with the bible as nothing in Catholicism is contrary to the bible. Every mass has four bible readings including the Eucharist which is based on John 6 & 14 other scripture verses. See Dr Scott Hahn a protestant pastor who turned to God in the Catholic Church

@garyg7549 4 года назад

@@1234poppycat what you're saying doesn't make sense. Why would I leave man-made church and go to another man-made church? Why don't you direct people to God himself? The Savior, the provider, The Giver of all good things?

@KM-zn3lx 4 года назад

Gary G.....Amen! Catholics don't really know their religion, not even the Pope! Catechism is over 700 pages long and added to constantly. The Bible isn't and God is the same Today, yesterday and the future. Thank God God is who he is!

@whm_w8833 Год назад

Like the prophets, we know in part and only have the answers we have been given and can’t say more. Thanks for making the most of what truth we have, what is opinion and not go beyond our imaginations or what we ideally think is right.

@sisterrose6836 4 года назад

Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

@Jamie-Russell-CME 4 года назад

It is at the door.

@gid10 3 года назад

hi mike.. though this was almost 4 years ago, but would you say that the "special revelation" can be defined and used by Calvinists as election before the foundation of the world--irresistible grace?? how would you respond to this interpretation?

@fredericksnraddo-yobo4259 4 года назад

Abraham rejoiced to see my day, he saw it and was glad

@thatonechristian2487 2 года назад

“You are not yet 50 years old, and yet you have seen Abraham?”

@MrBlonday 3 года назад

Ya know the creation never proved God to me but since I started believing and got saved, I see just how perfect everything really is made and the harmony of the creation which points to intelligent design. This is no cosmic accident, this is not order out of chaos (which by the laws of physics cannot happen), it is intelligent design!

@techman1982 6 лет назад

Hi Mike, do you have a teaching on 2 Samuel 16:16-23? If not, could you please do one? I was looking in my where to find it book in the Bible and found false friendship so I read and read and in a way I could see it but looking in commentary looked different. Thanks Mike.

@vermontsnuggery 6 лет назад

Thank you for this scripture based study. I find no fault in these arguments and explanations.

@benkrapf 6 лет назад

It's easy to make up your own rules when basing them upon a book rooted in circular reasoning.

@davidgleason6323 4 года назад

Except Hebrews tells us the OT Saints also needed Jesus’ gospel. They received it when He descended to the captives in Abraham’s bosom. “These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:39-40‬

@1234poppycat 4 года назад

@garyg7549 4 года назад

@@1234poppycat May I please mention this sir.... if you read John chapter 6 and you get the Holy Eucharist out of that I really don't understand it. You would have to be taught from someone that's what it means. The biggest question is AJA, have you been born again? I know that's not taught in the Roman Catholic catechism nor in RCIA class nor ever preached during mass. But it's in John chapter 3. You had to read that first before you got to John chapter 6. My second question is if there's a heaven, who goes there? Is there a hell? Who goes there?

4 года назад

Scripture says, all will hear before His return.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@bacomiric 4 года назад

Mathew 24:14

@russellliljedahl6113 3 года назад

good teaching!

@HagerVids Год назад

amazing teacher

@musicinspire1745 4 года назад

Wait a minute! Genesis clearly states that Abraham: "[Gen 26:4-5 KJV] 4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; 5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws." He was certainly pre-Law of Moses, but there was still Law before Moses.

@jackswager3067 4 года назад

There has always been the law of your conscience. Faith is believing God and obeying. Holiness is required with faith but faith is essential.

@wjckc79 4 года назад

Romans 2 14-16

@musicinspire1745 3 года назад

@mineben256 That doesn't change what I said about Genesis.

@juunard 2 года назад

Hi mike lately I’ve been watching your videos may i ask.. so do you believe that God still speaks to people who didn’t know the gospel, through revelations even the Bible is already written?

@Judahmangi 6 лет назад

Wow, Mike! You've done such a good job of making clear a fuzzy idea I've slowly been starting to understand recently, thank you so much! One passage I was hoping you'd mention is Acts 18:24-19:6. It talks about a man named Apollos who didn't know Jesus, but based on his knowledge of John the Baptist's ministry he "spoke and taught accurately the things concerning Jesus." Priscilla and Aquila found him and explained to him the way of God "more accurately." Later, Paul comes to Ephesus and finds a group of men who were followers of Apollos' teaching, it says they were disciples. Paul asks if they received the Holy Spirit when they believed, and they say "we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit." The key here I think is that they already believed, even before Paul gave them more special revelation and the Holy Spirit fell on them. So we have here in the New Testament, AFTER Jesus had already returned to heaven, an example of how "seed faith" as you called it, can result in genuine salvation, even without full revelation of Jesus and the Gospel. I think this is important, because I think it would be very easy for someone to try to make the claim that all the examples you gave were before Jesus, and that now that we (humanity in general) have been given the full revelation, perhaps it doesn't work the same way it did for Abraham and the like. Again, thank you and God bless you for your consistent and grounded teaching of the Scripture! You have helped my faith and understanding of the Bible so much in the few short months since I discovered your channel!

@MikeWinger 6 лет назад

+Judah Matthews I think that the people you are speaking of are a really good example of that! I wish I had included them in my message. I do think that if someone could show that the Bible teaches that all those examples I gave don't apply to today because they were before the cross then my whole argument would break down. But I don't think this can be shown from scripture. I take Romans and Hebrews to teach that salvation has always been through Christ, even when those with partial knowledge were saved, and it is more a matter of how much information a person has received than it is about a sudden change in "how" a person is saved once we pass a particular date on the calendar. Your example is a great way to respond to such an objection as well.

@Judahmangi 6 лет назад

Mike Winger I totally agree with everything you said! I've started picking up your practice of trying to see what the counter-arguments to your claim might be beforehand, so you have a response whenever they inevitably come up. Hence, the Acts passage I quoted! Your brother in Christ, Judah

@douglasmiller7036 5 лет назад

You need to do a survey of the New Testament then repent.

@raymondfort318 5 лет назад

Judah Matthews who is mike winger bible thinker

@1234poppycat 4 года назад

Jesus gave us HIS Church and those ordained in his church like Peter and Paul and their successors. Not a multitude of man made churches where you can pick and mix to get the religion that fits in with you. Why not progress to know God better ? Direct from Jesus …. leave the man made churches for the Catholic Church. .. Contrary to what Winger says Catholicism is at one with the bible as nothing in Catholicism is contrary to the bible. Every mass has four bible readings including the Eucharist which is based on John 6 & 14 other scripture verses. See Dr Scott Hahn a protestant pastor who turned to God in the Catholic Church

@dashaunjefferies1168 5 лет назад

Hey Mike (or anyone who’d wanna help me figure this out haha), One of your newer videos made me come back and rewatch this one. As it pertains to salvation by general revelation, do you think in the parable of the tax collector and Pharisee that the tax collector went away saved? It seems to me that he cried out for mercy apart from sacrifice and knowing of Jesus but he did know of his own sinfulness (and thus God’s righteousness) and God’s mercy. Jesus then stated that if we humble ourselves, we will be exalted. I think abt the verses of Paul and peter abt receiving mercy and having it mean salvation and was wondering if it’s the same.. Maybe this hinges on what “justified” (ESV) means in the parable...also I can’t think of what the parable represents if not what it’s directly talking abt

@christianpolitics260 3 года назад

Yes. Good interpretation also mercy in that scenario was speaking directly about salvation.

@elizabethryan2217 Год назад

Absolutely brilliant picture @ 6.00. 👏

@James-qo7uz 5 лет назад

I have come to accept that the best answer to the question of how much or how little does someone need to know to be saved is this: one must humbly believe that God is one and only source of one’s salvation. One might not understand all the details of how or when God will accomplish this salvation, but they believe it nonetheless. Just believing in one God that He exists is not good enough.

@jeffpaul5180 4 года назад

they are guilty, as you and me, and this is why we take them the gospel, or they will perish. He will reach his sheep, he will not fail.

@garyg7549 4 года назад

@A A God is such a loving God he actually went to the Cross was beat up and hung at Calvary for hour upon hour, spikes in his hands and feet. He was spit on they drove Branch spikes or thorns in his head, they buffeted him and he went through all that because he loves the people he created. I would imagine that folks as you mention who were born without capabilities for much, they will be rejoicing in heaven with brand new bodies and praising God with the other believers. I have faith in God because he is so good he's given up so much to get me.

@garyg7549 4 года назад

@A A very interesting, thank you for writing that. I'm going to have to read it a couple more times. I'd like to try and get full understanding of what you're saying. All I know about judgement is that the Lord has prepared a Lake of Fire for the devil and his angels. "But the fearful and unbelieving and the Abominable and murderers and whoremongers and Sorcerers and idolaters and all liars shall have their place in this Lake of Fire which burns with fire and brimstone which is the second death." That's all I know LOL

@christiancollegelife80 3 года назад

@Infinite Adriannn well no, what he said would not be Calvinistic

@keronbrown5717 6 лет назад

Also Galatians 3:8 says the gospel was preached beforehand to Abraham" (paraphrase) So I believe Abraham did have some knowledge of Christ.

@dianehaydon9851 2 года назад

Dear Mike, I cannot agree with everything you say in this video but I still get very motivated by your many videos and I'm very grateful for this. Would you agree, Mike, that God cannot rely ENTIRELY on us, Christians, to bring salvation to the world?? Many of us Christians lack the passion to "witness" to everyone who comes in their life, whether for a brief moment, or for a longer time. For example, what about those kids, in a Christian family, who choose eventually (when they get in their rebellious teenagehood, for example) to reject their Christian beliefs in Jesus, as the only Saviour of the world??? How would evangelical parents feel believing that their own daughter/son has lost his/her salvation and how would they feel if they lose their life in that state???

@cazdl 3 года назад

“A good example of our need for the gospel is found in Acts 10. Cornelius knew about God and was “devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly” (Acts 10:2). Did God save Cornelius because of his devotion to God based on the limited knowledge he had? No. Cornelius needed to hear about Jesus. God instructed Cornelius to contact the apostle Peter and invite him to come to Cornelius’ home. Cornelius obeyed, and Peter came and presented the gospel to Cornelius and his family. Cornelius and his household believed in Jesus and were therefore saved (Acts 10:44-48). No one, not even a “good” man like Cornelius, is saved simply by believing that God exists or by honoring God in certain ways. “

@robjackson4050 2 года назад

that makes god the worst being to ever exist because there are people who haven't heard the gospel who live in such remote places and speak their own language

@MrmorethanCnqrer Год назад

Thanks for this

@metapolitikgedanken612 3 месяца назад

More on Gospel essentials please, Mike.

@jaxslambert1095 Год назад

Excellent 👏👏👏👏

@aleithiatoews6452 3 года назад

Thank you for making the point about fair meaning we ALL die for our sins. I love dropping that bomb on my students in children's ministry. The realization helps to shift our paradigm about the unfairness of life. Personally, I'm glad life's not fair.

@Nai61a 2 года назад

Aleithia Toews: "I love dropping that bomb on my students in children's ministry." - Your conflation of "students" and "children" is remarkable and deeply worrying. What people think of when they hear "student" is somebody who has, at least, reached the age of reason. But "children" is quite another matter. I do not mean to be unkind, I assure you, but imagine somebody was talking about communism or nazism and they wrote that they like to persuade by "dropping that bomb on [their] students in children's politics ministry." Please consider honestly what you would think. To me, this desire to see children as "students" and to manipulate their beliefs, has terrible echoes of paedophilia.

@thepsalms2806 5 лет назад

Very interesting

@bobwood5146 2 года назад

Questions lead to answers that always lead to other questions---that is called the learning process abd is how anyone grows intellectually and spiritually.

@joshuasalcedo3630 4 месяца назад

Amen ! Praise abba Yah. Yes Yahweh Yahuah our Eli is and has always been Yahusha Hamashiach

@matt48005 3 года назад

Paul speaks of the creature separate from us (man) and gives the creature many attributes of a conscious being do you have any videos exploring Paul's view on the creature like in Romans 8? in English they are in plural and have some emotional attributes to them in Romans 8. thanks. PS and their role in the resurrection.

@lancegraham2244 4 года назад

Hello Mike You said, isn’t God a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him ? Yes but the question I want to ask is why Paul writes in Romans 3:10 As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one; 11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God. 12 They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one.” There seems to be a contradiction here unless our faith and repentance are a gift freely given to us through the sovereign work of God in our regeneration .”a change of nature “ that’s why we now seek Him and did not before because we were dead in our trespasses and sins , He made us alive and gave us a measure of faith (Rom 12:3 )in order to please Him , all to His Glory. So yes I agree that there are those who are ordained to obtain saving faith before knowing Gods full decreed plan for the unrighteous to be made righteous thru the sacrificial work the lamb of God ,our High Priest, our Mediator , our King . Who are they ? They are the elect , chosen by God before the foundation of the world by His will and Grace Alone . 2 Thessalonians 2 13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 8:28 -34 John 3:3- 8 I appreciate your love of God and His Word And your willingness to dialogue with reasonable brothers that oppose 😀

@annekaminju1879 4 года назад

Lance Graham Romans 3:23, 6:23, 5:8-9.

@davidpo5517 3 года назад

That helps, thank you.

@drewconstable1424 4 года назад

Could you address Acts 17 with respect to this topic? Thanks for all the great content!!!!!!!

@Papasquatch73 5 лет назад

BTW I am so thankful you put these together for us. On my commute I stream these. I also use them and your notes sometimes in bible class

@ior3k 6 лет назад

Hey Mike, thanks for these videos, I've been learning a lot from them. I have one question regarding people that could be saved not being saved (around 42:30), and a slightly related question that deals with something you said at the beginning. First, I acknowledge what you said about Sodom and Gomorrah (although, as a side note, William Lane Craig thinks that Jesus could just be using hyperbole), and I guess Ezekiel 3:18 could be understood in the same general direction. But then I get to Mark 3:1-5, where Jesus is chiding the Pharisees (especially Mark 3:4) for being against Him healing on the Sabbath. I know that salvation is by grace, and we don't deserve it, but my question is, why would God prefer to send people to Hell if He knows they would be saved if only they could hear the Gospel? How is eternal suffering in any way better than eternal bliss with Him? Second, when you say that it's actually fair for everyone to be condemned (around 7:30) and this is a point where I'm struggling a lot to understand what's going on, is that it seems to me that the odds were stacked against us from the outset. If we indeed are incapable of not sinning due to no choice of our own but to the choice of Adam (and see for example Romans 7:14-24) how is God good if He doesn't want to rescue us (and here I'm not saying that we deserve it. I don't think we have anything in ourselves that makes us deserving of blessing. If God blesses us, it's because He is good, not because we are)? For example, say a pregnant woman starts taking drugs, so her child is born with an addiction to those same drugs. Shouldn't society still try to help that child get rid of that addiction? It may be "fair" for the society to not care, but would you say not doing anything to help the child would be a characteristic of a godly society (also perhaps Romans 11:32 is related to all this)? Thanks for reading. If you could shed a light over this I'd appreciate it.

@caroltaylor3414 5 лет назад

I would think that if God hadn't wanted to rescue us He wouldn't have offered a way out through Jesus. And I think that God, who knows every tiny detail of our hearts, can tell if a human wants to submit to Him or not (to whatever extent they have heard of Him). If there is a stubborn, selfish desire to be their own "ruler" (even though we are not, really. We are either under God or under Satan, there is no "neutral" ground) then God will not force them to spend eternity with Him, against their will. And not being "with" God is being "without" God, which would have to be hell. Our world is terrible in many aspects, even with the Spirit of God at work in many people. Can you imagine the horribleness it would descend to without the Spirit's influence at all?

@thandam8251 4 года назад

These are valid questions that have not been answered. I think sometimes we try to do mental gymnastics in an effort to fit things within a certain box. Clearly if God is just he will not reject those whose only reason for not being righteous according to God's will is because they did not hear about him. The God I believe in is not arbitrary. He is fair and everyone has an equal chance to reach heaven. No one is more privileged than another. He loves us all the same - there are no chosen people. All are alike unto God.

@SHuang-iw8nl 4 года назад

Revelation 20:12-13 (ASV) And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne; and books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of the things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. From what i understand, all men will judge based on their works, & what is written in "the books", the standard that every men have heard and believe. This judgement is possible because of Jesus Christ died on the cross to bear whole world sin. Without Jesus sacrifice all sinner is punished to eternal dead. Because of God's grace through Jesus's obedience men can be judge and there is judgment, if not all will surely go to hell. And for the people who hd not hear gospel or hear a wrong gospel, they all will be judge by their work according to what they believe in their own book. And there is another judgement for "Christian" for there is book of life of the Lamb (another book).

@KM-zn3lx 4 года назад

Carol you probly won't see this, but that was a great response and taught me something! You are gracious in your wisdom!

@albertrenshaw4252 4 месяца назад

Your last point is something that’s convicted me but as I re-read the gospel with that in mind it sometimes seems that those who would be saved had they heard are on the right side of Sheol (where Jesus went) and that perhaps He Himself ministered to them after death but before judgement?

@rossrainey2712 6 лет назад

thank you for the video

@MikeWinger 6 лет назад

+ross rainey you're welcome!

@Reyes78 5 лет назад

Question about 43:05 In your view, is this true in the negative? Do those who create stumbling blocks change someone's eventual salvation? Disclaimer: I know that I am completely forgiven for the things I did when I was an agnostic/atheist and that God is just and merciful either way.

@thepsalms2806 5 лет назад

What do you mean exactly? I was also atheist/agnostic

@Reyes78 5 лет назад

I was pretty open about my lack of belief, maybe you could even say 'evangelistic'. I think that I played a part in certain friends giving up their faith, and, now, as I share the gospel with them, they are not accepting it. @@thepsalms2806

@thepsalms2806 5 лет назад

@@Reyes78 from what we know, true believers can never lose their faith. If they don't accept the gospel it's not on you, it's on them

@ce4truth Год назад

Revelation 5:9 can also be understood to mean, every tribe tongue people and nation who are in existence at the end times when the scene in heaven is happening will have representatives there. Not necessarily every one from history who ever existed. I take these verses very seriously as I am a missionary working in the remotest parts of the world who has purposely sought out a tribe to work among who had never as far as I know ever had a believer in the history of the world, since the tower of Babel. So I've based my life on this verse in believing that going to these last remaining tribes is worth while because at least someone from that tribe will be saved. In fact up til now we have just celebrated the first 16 believers and are now translating portions of scripture for them. It is impossible to know if someone from this language group has ever believed in Christ before if he appeared to them in a dream, or to an infant, etc. But by the "normal" means of salvation, this tribe had never heard of Jesus before we started working there in 2003. Since that time there has been a major change as they have began to accept the true and Living God little by little as they have come to understand Him. Praise the Lord for the freedom that has set them free from the bondage they were in to sin and evil spirits, etc. Practicing all forms of evil. They were not happier in their ignorance, but are experiencing real freedom and joy now for the first time ever. It's our privilege to get to be used by God to bring them the gospel for the first time. I can think of nothing greater. May the Lord inspire many more to devote their lives to bringing the gospel to those who have never heard.