Abus Gunner vs All Skirm Type Units ( Total resources and full upgrade ) Part 1! Aoe 3 Battle 

It would be a sufficient nerf if they reduced its damage or slightly lowered its attack speed. Abus has some disadvantages such as 2 pop coating, slow production, expensive.

​@@Ransom444dude abus already has a nerf with lowest speed of skirms

The reason abus win against all ranged units is that they deal siege damage. Their attack ignores the enemy range resist while they still have 20%. This makes them especially good against rangers or cassadores.

That would be a massive nerf. I don't think that a skirmisher that can't kite is usefull in real combat.

@@svenkleinplarre9461 it's awkward because it's a hybrid unit. Not being able to kite as well is indeed bad, but dealing bombard damage is huge upside however. Maybe give them a bit more ranged resist as well to compensate

Late ottoman empire's economy and technology are weak, the game is very balanced, learn to play first.

​​@@serdarylmaz1551you are the one who needs to learn to play or should i say play the "weak lategame otto", i do play mainly late game either treaty 40 or 60, and otto is not "weak" as you claim, they may not be powerhouses like mexico or ethiopia but they are far from weak a A tier civ i would say. Also you claim the game is very balanced, with that statment you show that you clearly don't play the game.

@@armorking7258 eat mine bro

The mode change animations are very slow, I tried it and they don't affect the result too much, and usually everyone uses pavisier in this way, who would think of changing modes at that moment.

Stop crying and if you're going to play, play boby.

go 3, train falcs

I think it's a perfect unit, just as it should be

@@berkay8467 no, abus can kill falcs, is not good idea

La debilidad de los otomanos era la caballería, pero ahora les dieron el azap

Don't cry pay your jizya

I didn't see a problem since we made a comparison over the total source, but in other videos we will make a comparison over pop and we will see it more clearly there.

Genelde kaynak savaşları daha adil gibi geliyor. Genelde birebir karşılaşmalarda hem pop hem de kaynak savaşları yapıyorum. Şunu söyleyebilirim ki abus skirmi pop savaşında bile alıyor.

There may be different results based on the right population, but resource-based matches are fairer.

you cant have so many abus guns on the field normally, if you have 80 abus guns enemy will have 80+ regular skirmishers@@Ransom444

Well Abus is special in that they deal siege dmg instead of ranged dmg. Very few units have a resistance to siege. While I enjoy aoe2 aswell, I love how unique each civ in aoe3 feels.

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You can be sure that nothing much changes and Abus wins again. But one day I'll do an abus vs pavisier match and we'll see it in detail.

I already wrote something about this in the description, at long range the fire thrower unit fires rockets but the abus does not attack. Otherwise, I know it destroys the abus while shooting rockets, but we had to do it like this to be fair.

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Part 3 will be Asia civs and Africa civs. We'll see Naftana there.

It already nerfed with low speed

@@raptorhacker599 Just to clarify, what do you mean by low speed? It has 3.0 rate of fire, and 4.0 movespeed, which is the same with most skirmisher-type units.

Everyone seems to forget that they're worth 2 pop, compared to skirms/cassadors/etc who only cost 1 pop. So pretty balanced imo.

Then it would be unfair to Abus.

@@Ransom444 it doesnt matter though, its about testing the strength, and both pop and resource values matter

@@miketora9073I compare both pop and resource in one-on-one battles. You can find such encounters on the channel

It is unfair for others like that RN. Abus needs Artillery foundry, more houses, these are all extra cost that you need to add to the total cost actually. So POP fight would be one of the fair deal here@@Ransom444

Yes, endgame pop is more effective, because there is no end to the economy, but pop has a limit. But the eco wars seem fairer.

They don't suck in treaty/late game, because they are also very, very cost-efficient AND pop-efficient. For instance, 1 Abus Gunner costs 135 total resources and they have greater "impact" than 2 skirmishers (which makes them pop-effective), for as long as the abus gunners are sufficiently protected from hand cavalry and artillery. Here's my sample computation: 2 Voltigeurs (skirmishers) (total cost: 230 resources) = 36 damage per shot x 2 units x 3 multiplier vs Heavy Infantry = 216 damage every 3 seconds to Heavy Infantry 1 Abus Gunner (total cost: 135 resources) = 88 damage per shot x 1 unit x 2.75 multiplier vs Heavy Infantry = 242 damage every 3 seconds to Heavy Infantry Hence, abus gunners are very cost-efficient AND pop-efficient. If you can micro well and protect your abus gunners, they can put out MORE damage than skirmishers, while costing so much LESS than the same pop of skirmishers. As an added bonus, they deal SIEGE damage and have more RANGE than most skirmishers too... which makes them INSANELY overpowered.

Clarification: Abus gunners may not be pop-efficient on their own vs other skirmishers, BUT in an actual game, they are fighting against other unit types, and abus gunners are usually protected, so they can (most of the time) utilize their higher DPS. More DPS per pop than skirmishers vs other unit types (in an actual match) makes them pop-efficient.

@@panzerrule9484 some horse artillery is always a better choice than Abus in treaty

Then let's close the ottoman and go. 😃😃

and strelets, and ordinance 😃😃

Fun fact. Firethowers had "disadvance" here. Rockets card give them multipliers against ALL infantry, but alas, they were positioned outside firing range (16-22m). They weren't optimal In that case, it would've beren just a massacre

Fire Throwers are also 2 pop.