ACC vs iRacing MAIN DIFFERENCE  

Thats the thing, in ACC, all you really have is the modern GT3 cars so its not an issue

Acc: 10€ iRacing: a Kidney

iRacing also requires a second mortgage. . .

Well acc is only gt3 so that s normal behaviour

ACC is a product. iRacing is a service.

People gotta remember, ACC is pretty much only GT2/3/4, which actually do brake and handle irl like they do in game

Well ACC is almost an exclusive GT3 Sim so it is understandable.

Ok you’re not going to touch on slip physics? The most game breaking part of iRscing and one of the things that makes ACC so great? The fact one reacts as a real car would and the other turns into an ice simulator

The acc model also allows you to tune how much brake pressure you use. Meaning 100% input isnt 100% braking.

my irl track car def prefers to brake like you do in iracing. I have a pretty aggressive brake pad that actually engages the abs if I were to brake to 100% pressure

Not according with that. Acc wants you to brake at 100% but if you're playing it realistically, you will always lock up your wheels when braking in acc. And, you are more efficient in acc braking like in I racing.

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This is super important, and I struggled in places until I understood it. Obvy I watched onboards and saw the pedal work, but until I understood this from spending time in iRacing (mostly W12/W13) and watched dev blogs and read ACC documents, eracers, I struggled MIGHTILY in places like Hungaro. so THANK YOU for spreading the word,

I personally enjoy IRacing. It’s the best simulator in my opinon and if you have a job then I have no complaints about it. It shouldn’t spark a argument between sim racers globally. I don’t understand why can’t we just all enjoy our sims and get on with life. 😂😭

Someone needs to show gt7 creator about balancing with weight transfer.

Yes and No. With the most recent Tiremodel in ACC it is more effective to not go 100% on the Brakes. It's still a viable way to decellerate, but it is now slower and punishing on the Tires to go 100% on the Brakes.

I know this isn't a tutorial but this helps so much. I break on some corners at 100% playing Assetto and I got a good handle on the car but I lose speed, glad to know I just need to mess around with the brakes a little

And also a kidney for iracing 😂😂

So does that mean that the ABS system for ACC GT3 Cars is more realistic than in Iracing GT3 Cars?

Thank YOU! That's exactly what I noticed right away when ACC was released years back. Now ACC is the only sim I take seriously and spent most of my simracing hours.

I can't really brake 100% in ACC, I feel like when the ABS engages the car just doesn't slow down as quickly, so I end up carrying a lot of speed at turn entry, understeering and losing the apex.

Its almost like ACC is simulating a modern gr3 😮

VERY good points except that if you want to get better ar driving... you SHOULD try to brake hard without ABS now and then, and especially with different vehicle configurations

Having gone from ACC to a Ferrari challenge, my driving style and adaptation were fine IRL. I do think that knowing about threshold braking rounds out any issues the sim doesn’t cover though.

Not one acc video or my personal experience reflects what is said in this video at all, if you don’t trail brake you don’t go fast….period. Try that 100 -0 and you spin in acc

The biggest difference between iRacing and ACC is that the former has visuals from Gran Turismo 3 and the latter from Gran Turismo 5.

If you turn off ABS or have low settings in ACC and break 100% into a corner you won’t be fast. Another big difference is the tyre model..

iracing is superior in most levels, but ACC has it's gems. Even RaceRoom kills it with their shifts (you feel it in the wheel)

This is whats definitely making me slow in iracing, with most of my hours in ACC. Im not used to the not 100% breaking. Causing me to look up,starting out, and now just overall slower now that im getting used to it.

Okay this clears a lot up, i thought putting full pressure in acc would slow you down, good to know i can still do it and keep going fast.

Yeah this is the conclusion I came to as well, ACC was modelled using much more sophisticated ABS system and I would argue has an earlier cutoff one could say to the breaking maximum. However I don't know how true the whole breaking 100% even into a turn is with ACC. I hear this a lot, and playing extensively ACC (I like iracing but I downright disagree with their monetization practice) breaking that much in ACC will definitely cause understeer. Maybe depends on the car? But even most track guides explicitly tell you to only break 100% in a straight line and then trail break through the turn. Again probably depends on car but from my experience 100% breaking into turning in ACC is a big no no and a great way to damage your lap times. Was just doing a few online races yesterday again on Red Bull ring.... can't recall a single turn where breaking 100% is ok. I think this notion is well exaggerated by mostly people that don't play ACC as much. But yeah, it is definitely modelled after very sophisticated ABS systems. You can barely lock the wheels even when trying to. The result is that turning with your feet in iRacing is much more sensitive and I would argue at times satisfying in a different way. You can really see how much the car turns with slight wheel inputs and pressing the break in iRacing much more which is awesome. Both are very satisfying in their own way. And end of the day, what a time to be alive. Best we had back in the day was Gran Turismo 2. Now we have such great simracing options we are sitting here analysing the difference between details such as this. This is a huge win for sim racing all around.

There is no such thing as "100% braking" in a real system. so I wouldn't really look at pedal inputs too much unless you know what line pressures and wheel torques the sim is outputting.

Acc is also a game based on said gt3 cars with amazing abs systems

I always drive with tc and abs turned off anyway. Sure abs will allow you to 100% brake without lockup but its slower than just braking at the correct threshold. Abs also makes it difficult to learn what that threshold is.

Professional GT3 drivers do no mash the brake and rely on ABS. They threshold brake. The fast ones do anyway. Any winning GT3 driver will tell you even with how good the abs systems are, you will always be faster if you learn to threshold and never allow tires to reach the point if lockup. ACC is fun to play. But is absolutely not realistic in that sense at all. And even in acc, if you turn abs way down or off, and threshold brake, you can be faster.

Bought ACC, play it with mouse and keyboard is my new way to training endurance for pain

Wait so a sim for modern gt car has exactly what modern gt cars have?

I drive a Porsche 991.2 Cup car. No TC, no dynamic damping. It's all on you. All I know is that on the Nordschliefe is hard as hell in ACC. Rough as an MF. It's a ride. In iRacing it was all too smooth. As far as braking, no one is required to brake at 100%. Isn't that the art of it? How little brake I can use to get the job done.

Try braking like you would do in a GT3 but do it in a BMW M2 CS in ACC. And you will find out that the braking is different depending on what car type you are driving.

ACC: Game iRacing: Sim

Acc is a gt3 Sim so why wouldn't they brake like gt3 abs systems?

Some dude really said: "Well, iRacing is expensive, but if you think about it it's way cheaper than if you owned a real race car and took it out for track days."💀yeah nice logic

So what you are saying is that acc, which is a gt3 simulator and only a gt3 simulator (to my knowledge), simulates modern gt3 cars the way that they are irl and is closer than iracing for modern gt3 cars, and that iracing, which is a motorsport simulator for pretty much all kinds of motorsport, is realistic but not always perfectly accurate to the specific car

Ive never played Iracing but i find not engaging the ABS in ACC is faster.....Yes you can slam on the brake but many people are using 1 or 2 ABS settings which will allow you to lock up the tires. Especially if they are cold. The biggest thing in ACC is "CORE" tire temperature.. You can have your PSI perfect but if the "CORE" tire temperature is too low you're losing a ton of grip and braking performance! When you get that CORE tire temperature perfect in ACC the cars drive amazingly! Most people dont realize their tires core temps are too cold this costing them lap times! Having the core temperature just right can make a full second per lap difference using identical inputs! Hungaring, Valencia, Barcelona, Spa, and Weather tech are prime examples! I used to struggle at Weather Tech on the first half of the track. Once i got my core temps right i was down in the low 1:22's. But if the core temperature isnt right its easy to drop to the 1:23.5-1:24 Both Barcelona and Hungaring are the same way. Tire temps Right 1:43's comfortablely. Wrong 1:44's Valencia is another one. So much relies on corner exit. In order to do 1:30 consistently the tires must be in the window...Outside the window and its 1:31-1:31.8. that extra tire slip kills lap times.. Paul Richard 3rd sector is like that too! If you wanna get down to the 1:53's or better the core temperatures much be right. Even with the broken Physics model the ACC tire model is pretty good! Especially when the track is greasy or green! Thats another thing no one really seems to take advantage of! Starting races at green for free practice into Qualifying and working up to optimal. Green and optimal can easily be two seconds different per lap..

The one thing I've noticed is the cars look far slower on iRacing than ACC. You can coast into corners and still be fast

I love your videos and have learned and watched a lot, but when I play Assetto Corsa the wheels lock up very easily if you do 100%. Is it because I’m not doing competicione? I have had to learn trail breaking and brake pressure especially in the Tattus because it will lock up like expected.

Trail brake is very real on ACC

You guys brake at 100% without trailbraking in ACC ? I thought you were suppose to avoid triggering the ABS as much as you can I mean, I honestly don't know and I'm far from being fast but I always brake way faster by doing this than slamming the brake pedal without gauging anything

It makes me sick in every racing/simracing/car related comment section. It's brAking not brEaking, brAkes not brEaks. Please guys, use english properly

Real life is more forgiving,but i think the iracing technique in irl open wheel cars works...max verstappen drives like that irl...look at him now

Well, i don't see the problem knowing ACC is basically GT3 sim racing

Daniel Morad on his channel said when he races his real life gt3 you initially trigger the abs but then back off slightly so you are just below the threshold. Apparently you don't always stay deep in the abs **his words not mine**

acc : 15$ iRacing : your whole life savings

Well.. since gt3 cars use abs it's kinda normal to have it, on assetto corsa there are cars without it. +You can set abs 0 and you will block if you brake too hard

Hopefull when AC2 comes out they'll have some sort of ranked multiplayer system that will compete with iracing. We need more competition to iracing so maybe they'll stop charging an arm and a leg

I lock up in abs, and im 0.5 from aliens

In response to some sad old bloke defending iRacing and the company's wallet as if they gave a shit about him or even knew who he was lmao: There's plenty of life service titles that have operated for close to a decade or more all the while not requiring every single player to spend hundreds of dollars on it every year for them to be able to just experience the game in totality. You can make the argument that people don't need every single track or every single car, but that's besides the point. At the end of the day the developers charge those prices because they know they have a unique product with not much competition. The playerbase is letting them get away with this. If everyone stopped buying cars/tracks and cancelled their subscriptions, they'd be forced to drop their prices immediately. Dude really said "well if you think about it it's way cheaper than going on actual track days".... as if that's an adequate defense of a game with one of the most aggressive monetization models in gaming💀

I mean doesnt gt3 and gt4 series have abs and traction control? If so, i mean thats the cars spec. Makes sense. With iracing you have varieties of many different racing series that doesnt use assists like abs and traction control

I never liked how the braking in assetto works

Makes sense honestly cause ACC literally is modern GT3 cars only

Assetto should really come out with a free roam map that you can drive any car on while also having their racing sim mode, it’s a little hassle having to download all these mods, but I mean it’s still fun

Considering ACC focuses on GT3 racing it’s really accurate

Hey Man, i really enjoy ur content, may u give us a bit of tips for the upcoming nordschleife 24 hours to get a better laptime Cheers

Biggest difference is the price.

if ur gonna mention iracing having better braking you should mention ac/c having better tires model

Even in the older AC i notice that if Im more aggressive with my breaking in GT3 cars its not the same and I always lock up my rears. Similar setups Ive chocked it up to poor ABS in the old games because once I stopped slamming down to 100% it stops

Even on standard road car ABS 100% brake pressure will be just as good at stopping you fast

Is this a new thing with the modeling? I started on iracing back in 2010/2011 and i would hit 100% in the old Star Mazda and then trail it off effectively. No lock ups.

im going to try it in a real car without abs. sounds fun

Based on your descriptor, Forza Motorsport 6 is more realistic than ACC ☠️ it only requires about 80% brakes to hit full ABS in most cars. (I’m sure car physics and grip are better modeled in ACC tho)

and you don't mention that in ACC that the wheels DO lock up if your abs is too low or off.... same in iracing..

Good point but main difference is Iracing takes all freaking day to load the game

How about braking in Raceroom compared to ACC and iRacing?

my cousen let me play this game and it was really fun 10/10 reccomended

I'm a GT 7 guy. Abs ? We just punt to get round a corner dude.😂

Good to know

Not to mention ACC Evo is about to come out

I feel like reality lies halfway between the two styles.

Anyone having a list of real life racing drivers competing in ACC (excluded those who went from sim to real life racing). Driver61 and Daniel Morad prefer iRacing and Max Verstappen only competes in iRacing and rF2. Driver61 says iRacing is closest to real life and Daniel says braking is most realistic in iRacingru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4MVI6U9tC5g.html . Personally I miss a lot of road detail in iRacing and in ACC I actually feel the weight of the car as it is in real life. Mario was once asked if Sim Racing (I think it was in rF2) was the same as real lie, he said something like 'No, you need to know what the game wants' . And I always heard that rF2 has the best physics.

I like ACC i got it for free pretty much man!! it was like 10 bucks with all DLC's. I love it!! Never got to try the other one tho.

ACC braking actually feels real, though. If you turn ABS off, you can 100% lock up the tires. In iRacing however, trail braking is almost useless, as there is almost zero difference in front grip while turning whether you brake or not. In iRacing, you just have to be at a low enough speed for the tires to work. Their physics feel unrealistic to me. ACC is much closer to real world feel, IMO.

IRacing's braking is its most accurate feature

Well, idk if this is a good thing, even though I'm new, I recommend other new players to enable the brake assist to make you not lock up

And what about GT4 and GT2 in ACC? there are other physics to look at

Is this comparing the same cars though? If ACC's ABS for GT3 is accurate then does that mean iRacing's is not?? I've only played ACC so I cant compare

The main difference between them is just the force feedback that they're both produce I racing is really good but ACC is absolutely terrible can't race it. People keep saying the biggest problem with ACC is the fact that it doesn't have good online multiplayer features in base game but it's honestly just the feedback. That is the game's biggest problem

i only brake 50% in ACC and then i tested brake 100% and it's the same shit

well it works for ACC because it's exclusive to modern GT3 cars

However, high Downforce cars do allow very heavy initial brake application but you have to bleed off the pressure as the grip/DF reduces.

I would really like to play a good nascar game. But i will never pay 400$ + a membership to get what i want. It may has good physics but graphics looks like a decade ago.

Suellio, I tried to outbreak someone off the straight in MX5 this week Virginia North turn 1. I had to purchase some stopping power by downshiftiwoth my breaking just before lockup. It was all too much and I blew my engine lol.. I didn't know I could do that lol

ACC braking makes sense because you drive GT3 cars.

i racing toyota gr98. most best laps with full 100% abs pressure brakes

Braking is a breeze in AC

Assetto corsa (the normal one) feels like its more popular than acc How shoudl you breka in normal assetto corsa

So iracing had racers working with them that cared about the car feeling over how a curb looked lol. Thanks David perel

More of ACC please 🙏

Acc also has better graphics and costs a lot less therefore acc is the winner 🎉

that graph is just cap tho… ACC doesn’t require you to quickly drop the brakes

Ah, so just like New Star GP xD I like that game, very fun