@@hugobasilio1303 I've been waiting to come across a comment on this similarity! I thought of Markiplier immediately the moment I first heard Geoff speaking in an interview.
Mark is already very used to engaging his false folds everyday, whenever he's talking or singing. Add his already low chest voice and you've got a recipe for accidental Kargyraa C1s 😄
@@maloxi1472 It just surprised me, 'cause I think kargyraa is harder to do accidentally, because you have to force your vocal chords a little bit, and usually we don't really do that unless we make some "angry noises", if you know what I mean. Meanwhile, to activate the subharmonic technique, you need to relax your voice, and to be honest, I personally talk with a relaxed voice in much more cases than stressfully, or whatever.
@@tamasgal9593 To clear up some misconceptions, Kargyraa is a form of subharmonic singing (ventricular/false folds subharmonics). What you call the "subharmonic technique" is another form (true folds subharmonics). In the first instance, the sub is produced by 3:2 interference between the two sets of vocal folds and in the second, it's produced by out-of-sync (again 3:2) closure of the true vocal folds. True folds subs need more precision and false folds subs need more breath pressure and, of course, engagement of the false folds. What's easier depends on the particular singer's habits. From watching his vids, Mark is more of a false folds type of speaker/singer (Jonathan Young is another example of this pattern)
2:05... Okay now that I'm certain that it's subharmonics, Technoblade does a lot of accidental subharmonics if you watch his streams. I know I've at least heard one or two besides this one.
@@rtsbass7829 I can reach some of those... "fry"s, some come out clean, like, sudently they like to drop 2 octaves from the normal tone. But i can't figure out yet how to give that diferent vibration a volume, like, more gain, idk... They sound low volume, passing very few air when humming like that. I want to make subarmonics so much, but I just discovered it was a technic. I've been practicing for one week and from nothing to here, I already improved a tiny bit.
@@reagindoerindo4311 I know what you mean because I am a Bass 2 and reaching low notes is really easy especially when using Subharmonic. Of course when I first started I would get little voice cracks and it would usually just sound very quiet but after a lot of practice its like a natural thing I can do.
@@scratchingcatclaw Yeah I tried to learn it about a year ago, after realising I could do some sort of thing like sub harmonics but it was shaking and.. anyway my point is my voice generally became croakier
probably going to make a vocalist angry here, but vocal fry is a part of subharmonics; you use a little bit of vocal fry and a chest note at the same time and because the sound waves interact with each other it messes with the frequency that is output and drops it an octave; this is grossly oversimplified and I recommend looking up videos specifically about subharmonics. personally, I use chest notes, vocal fry, chest-fry (something that's just outside of your chest note range that you can still somewhat reach with very small vocal fry), and plenty of silly subharmonics and although they are very, very similar, the way you apply the vocal fry determines what notes you're hitting. I hope this helps!
I don't like "accidental subharmonics," honestly. I consider it vocal fry. But when subharmonics are done on purpose and they're well controlled without struggle, then they're pretty cool.
I catch my friends talking in subharmonics all. the. time. But they think I have no idea what I'm talking about. They don't understand that subharmonics aren't hard to learn/do- they're hard to control
Subharmonics have a distinct pitch. Whereas fry is random noise that is either pitchless or not a stable pitch. That being said, I think a few of these might be just fry.
Video named "FEEDVID" at about 21:10, fun fact: I have made the original clip of the markiplier clip that is seen in this video, that is why there is two C1 symbols.
Wait this is subharmonics( even tho accidental)? I had no idea 🤣because that happens to me a lot when I speak and it doesn't make it any better with a thick southern accident too🤣🤣🤣
I noticed my english teacher does a lot of accidental subs, so i am counting how many he does each day of 2 weeks, and then i get an average amount of subs😆 PS: he does not know about it lol
My accidental sub is Bb0 And when I am on the phone, people tell me I have to repeat myself because my voice just simply drops so low when I am speaking naturally. I heard posted videos of my speaking voice, but you know, people call it fry, people are hateful so we are hateful so F 'em.
Is there a way to get rid of these subharmonics? I use my voice to create AI generated voices and it seems these unwanted subharmonics makes the AI go crazy, I wish there was a way to avoid these subharmonics, the only solution I found so far is to raise the pitch of my voice but sometimes I need to use my talking/low register and these nasty subharmonics appears and make the AI algorithm fail.
My natural voice is around f2-d2 normal/ hyped convo...... But in recording I sound like the nice guy pitch, like when you try to sound nice u have that high pitch vibes, my normal time has that but the pitch is still between f2/d2 why I get an illustration that I sound high pitched
In a sense, a subharmonic is vocal fry that is supported, tends to be louder, and is a drop in pitch exactly 1 octave from the principle tone. Once you get used to them happening, you can do them at-will. And, the deeper your voice is naturally, the deeper the subharmonics will be... it is a technique purposely used by a lot of bass singers to go insanely deep; much deeper than any average bass singer could do in their natural voice.
To do a subharmonic, you're singing a chest note but activating the false folds underneath which are vibrating at half the frequency, and that's how you make the subharmonic sound. its really easy to do by accident, especially when you're trained with them because they kinda force you to be relaxed while singing it, and your vocal chords are always gonna be relaxed when you're speaking unless you're speaking very loudly.
@@red5250, for subharmonics as we know, the false folds aren't engaged. Rather, the principle is produced in chest voice and allowed to slip into a light fry. For most of this, that causes one vocal fold to maintain the principle and for the other to slip into a perfect 5th. When combined, this causes the note we hear to be exactly one octave lower than the principle. There are other techniques, but they all involve the principle and octave higher and a perfect 5th being sang simultaneously..
@@red5250, there are a couple different ways to achieve them. For me, I cannot do the false vocal cord version... but I know other people who do really well at them... doing the supported fry version, I can get down to G0 every single day or Eb0 on a very good day. I used to be a purist and only saw chest voice and chest-fry as real singing... that has since changed... if it sounds good, I don't care how it's done.
lmao anything by the guy at 1:09 is not accidental. you're trying WAY too hard if you include stuff from him. that's one of his bread and butter skills. even talking he's gotta be aware of it.
Well, a subharmonic is vocal fry that is supported, focused, and uses breath control to maintain pitch. So, yeah, they are vocal fry... but a different type of vocal fry. It's very easy to tell a subharmonic from pure fry: you will hear both the principle pitch and subharmonic at the same time, which gives it a buzz quality and a distinct sound. Every single vocal note I heard here was a subharmonic.
