ACE AF1 REVIEW VIDEO HERE: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qrkcnbCLyA4.html CORRECTION: I was notified that I read my tape measure wrong (thank you Anthony De Rosa), and listed the height as 2.18" instead of the correct 2.125" measurement. From bottom of baseplate to middle of axle, the height would be 53.975mm instead of the 55.372mm I measured (a difference of 1.397mm). Albeit a tape measure is not the most accurate tool to use when doing a measurement such as this. EDIT 4/23: I misread Ace's bushing description. The top bushing is 91a, while the bottom bushing is 86a. The pivot cup is 96a, NOT the bushings.
The rethreading nut is no joke! They saved a pair of hollow Indys. The axle rethreader on my skate tool, and the local shop workers couldn’t even save my mushed axle. My buddy came through with his red rethreading nut and saved them :) Anyways dude keep killing it. Awesome review and skating!
Kinda messed up they couldn't sell you a retreading tool or just let you you one they probably had shits like 8 bucks for separate die cast to attach to regular skate tool don't ever waste money on those 20$ plus ones with it installed already those will fall out and fail
Great vid bro. Just noticing when you were measuring the height of the trucks you measured 2 1/8 inches with the tape. When converting to mm on your calculator the number in decimal form should have been 2.125 not 2.18. Just nerding out 😂 Keep it up great videos ... subbed!
I just got my 55 classic yesterday and I compared em with my AF1 66. 1. classic bottom bushings is 1mm++ shorter than af1's 2. the hanger geometry between both is totally different. It makes the classic wheelbase shorter for about 0.25++ inches. (easier to manual with classic) (af1 WB now almost the same as indy) 3. Af1 top bushings is more tapered shape to avoid top washer's bite.
When measuring wheelbase it would be more accurate to measure between axles on both sides of the board and take an average, this will account for any tilt in hanger because of the bushings. Thanks for all the info!!! Great vid!!!
af1 66 with 57mm wheels and 1/8 riser was wheelbite central. I was really surprised how soft the bushings are and I ride pretty loose trucks. They turn great but I don't want to run 1/4 risers so it's either cut wheel wells or run hard bushings.
2 1/8 = 2.125 not 2.18! Using that formula you would have a height of 53.975 mm! So that's how you achieve this measurement! If you ever get confused, 1/8 you would divide 1÷8= .125 . You can use that with any fraction! Like 7/8 , 7÷8= .875 Enjoy!
Gonna go ahead and just put the top bushing in the top and some krux top bushings in the bottom, keep em loose like I do with my classics , they should not have changed the bushings if they didn’t change the geometry of the truck , stoked about the new sizing, Ace turn the best
question I'm skating independent forged hollow 149 on an 8.25 deck and I like 149 because they are wider do I get the model 55 ace trucks for my 8.25 deck or the 44?
If you want to keep the 8.5” axle size you’ll want the new AF1 55 which is 8.5”. Axle sizes have changed with the AF1 lineup compared to Classic, check the Ace website. They’re one of few brands with a 8.3” axle but that’s only with the Classic 44.
don't forget you can use speedring to get them a lil bit wider so if you get the 55's use like two or three speedrings on the inside of the axle and you should get them to spread to 8.5 (Same as indy 149)
They look better manufactured than Indy's, more refined and slick while Indy's are a bit rough on the edges - maybe I'll finally give them their *turn ;) But I do wish they were a bit lighter, I think that they are almost the heaviest trucks on the market :-/ which is a shame for big tech guys (unlike me lol).
The standard axlenuts are doomed to fail if they're a softer metal ( which they most likely are, maybe grade 3?) then the axle ( chromoly is the standard, harder & stronger then grade 1-5 on a Rockwell scale). They might hold up a few times bur are definitely a clever novelty. A regular die( like in a skate tool) is a high grade heat treated alloy that NEEDS to be stronger then the metal it's working against or the rethreader will get destroyed ( they are fragile).
@@johncoleman7308 The chromoly truck axles are equal to grade 8 steel. The axle nuts aren't grade 8. Maybe the rethreading nuts, but not the axle nuts.
@@mr.e8561 you clearly know more about the specifics of the properties of these metals than I do. I just went to the site and read a description. Makes me wonder why they market it that way when it already comes with a rethreading die. Maybe the nuts are harder than traditional nuts, but if they are softer than the axle it doesn’t really matter.
@danny meza good to know thanks. I prefer my trucks/wheels to be flush or worse case board whidder than truck/wheels. Another question, the 66 axel has an etched size on it? Maybe 8.75???
Ya dude i skate the exact same measurements lol But I been thinking of getting the 55's "8.5" and running them on an 8.75-9 just cuz I like my board to be wider than trucks (Helps treflips, Pressure flips etc) If you get the 66 or 55 lemme kno what u think. I've been indy 159's for the last 5 years but kinda wanna switch it up
@@justinmuir9163 Looks like we'll both be testing out sum 55's, I'm bad asf at cross locking on rails so I been thinking bout shrinking the trucks so it's more stable when grinding.
U are wrong that calipers dont measure from there cuz they do u just need to use the corresponding face u tried using the front and back face which dont line up accurate but if u use both back faces they do both both inside faces line up as well as the opposite end can b usedbto measure accurately from the two right faces there is even inside measuring faces 4 different ways to measure with callipers outside inside right side left side
Can someone please tell us about the wheelbase ratio of the classics vs the af1’s as well judging by the hanger of the af1’s is slightly more bent then the classics ?
Pretty sure you measured right. From memory Ace Classics are 55mm and these are supposed to have the same geometry. Not sure how they got 53, maybe someone in marketing measured to the bottom of the axle.
