Achtung! T-34! || IL-2 Tank Crew: Pz.III Multiplayer Gameplay. 

Isn't that model of T-34 the one equipped with a 76mm cannon that doesn't even pierce 80mm? If so then with some distance and angling the Pz III M is probably better (the Pz III M has spaced armor and 70mms on the front mantlet/turret. If I'm thinking about the right T-34 then the Pz III M outclasses that T-34 in armament, maneuverability, and has enough armor to protect against the T-34's armament (it doesn't matter if your armor is worse than your opponents if your opponent doesn't have the armament to pierce it).

@@callidusvulpes5556 I would disagree, (I dont have exact values as I am watching this in bed) while the t 34 cannon will definitely have trouble piercing the frontal, angled or not armour at range of a panzer 3, the panzer 3 has a smaller cannon with less penetrating power, while the t 34 has about the same effective thickness armour. So I'd say on the penetrating front, the t 34 has the panzer 3 beat. This is actually the whole reason why the panzer 4 (the version with the long 75, not the short one used for He) is a thing. To counter the issue of panzer 3s struggling heavily with the t 34 and k v1 armours. The t 34 is also just flat out faster, no question about it. The t 34 also, in the instance presented, has better green camo, as opposed to the factory tan of the german tank. The advantages that the panzer 3 has are out weighed by the disadvantages in this fight. Those advantages being a quicker firing gun (meaning more chances to find your range, hit a moving target, or find the right place to penetrate) and the fact that there is a gunner and a commander, but that is not really relevant in the situation in the video as they are not multicrewing, other then quicker swap from binoculars to cannon.

@@ironchancellorottovonbisma8573 very rigt. The PIV was the nessessary answer cause the t34 outclassed every PIII model.

​@@ironchancellorottovonbisma8573 The Panzer 3 M's cannon is a smaller 50mm with more penetration actually, (100mm) so no the t-34 doesn't have it beat for penetration (The only advantage the higher caliber offers the T-34 is explosive mass; more damage will be done inside the tank if the round happens to pierce). The Pz 3 M will still have difficulty piercing the T-34, but it will still be very possible through the turret, while the T-34 will have extreme difficulty piercing anywhere really. The poor camo point is fairly moot due to the Pz 3 M's great armor, the turret is much less cramped inside of the Pz 3 M, the radio actually works, you have space for a commander and a hatch for everyone's escape. The T-34 is faster, but in combat it's not the most helpful due to the platform being, so unstable (practically no suspension, so you can forget about on the move shots and the gun depression is god awful like in most Russian vehicles). Even without considering factors that only affect real life scenarios I still think the armor and armament comparison still makes the Pz 3 M a winner (I mean after all if your enemy is incapable of killing you and you're very capable of killing him that's all that matters). I'd take a Pz 3 M any day if I had to choose one or the other. In most scenarios I'd probably take a T-34 over a Pz III, but the particular variants of each vehicle in this comparison make a huge difference.

@@callidusvulpes5556 (fair warning I am going to be using war thunder stats for this comment because I think they are pretty historical, but I could very well be wrong) so while I agree, yes the panzer 3 can penetrate 100mm of armour easy, that is at close range. At normal engagement distances, Il-2 and real life (ie. 500-1000m) the german tank (I'm going of of Aphe round) has 85-70mm of penetration. While the t 34 does definitely have less penetrating power at point blank, it barely has a disadvantage at longer ranges. So with this info I would think the t 34 would be better! But, niether of us has taken into account the slope of the t 34 main frontal armour plate, and to a lesser degree the side plates, but we are talking about the front right now. The t 34 has a slope of 60 degrees, + or - about 5 degrees depending on unevenness in generally flat terrain. This brings the armour to about 80-95mm of effective thickness, which the panzer 3 would have trouble with, but the armour is made even more efficient due to the slope. The round when trying to penetrate slopes armour has a harder time due to it not being straight on. This can bring the effective penetration to any where from 30-40mm at close range to 20-30 at 500-1000m distance. Now this is ignoring the turret of the t 34 which is sloped in some places, but generally is flat. The 50mm might have trouble in some spots, but will definitely have a fairly easy time of getting through up to a 1000m and even at longer distances. The panzer 3 has good armour of around 55mm of spaced armour most places in the front, bringing the effective thickness to somewhere around 75mm. While this is good protection, I would argue that the main hull is inferior to the t 34s main hull. But I do see your point with the turret and would agree that the t 34 turret protection wise is inferior. Now your arguement with the camo being "the poor camo point is fairly moot due to the panzer 3M's great armour." Kind of grinds my gears. Not being spotted is the biggest advantage a tank could have in my opinion. It allows for you to control the engagement, it allows you to maybe get a shot in the side if the enemy tank isnt activity pointing their frontal armour at you, it allows you to wait for a closer, more suitable range for your gun if they are driving towards you. All of those things can be used against you if the t 34 spot your tan hull in the green trees. The german armour is good, but not from the side, and who knows, maybe the t 34 closes and penetrates through the front at a closer range. Your arguement with the 3 man turret is very valid actually and I respect it. The ability to have one person shot and another spot while a third is loading is invaluable. This is a really fun arguement and I would love to play tank crew with you some time, my discord is HerrShindler#3736 if you ever want to play!

I am glad you like them! :D

@@Wolfpack345 yeah man I agree, top notch editing, makes seeing what's going on in the chaos much easier

@@Wolfpack345 Hi! where i can buy, download this game? Please tell me!

@@micudan1 on steam you must buy defalut IL2 sturmovik battle of stalingrad if i am right and the you must buy this expansion aka il2 sturmovik tank crew bit thats not on steam

Thanks! :D

*slow clap*

Aircraft are fully intergraded in the game. In multiplayer you will see player controlled aircraft flying around. (In the last video we were attacked by one) In Single player they are out and about as well.

@@Wolfpack345 Ye gods and little fish! I am doing the walk and a little dance at the same time. That is hard for a 72-year-old, but it is well deserved. I never thought to see something like this in my lifetime.

@@mrsillywalk There is also a game called War Thunder that integrates planes and tanks into a multiplayer environment. It's less realistic, but has better graphics and is more polished.

@@callidusvulpes5556 Thank you. I just had a look at that game. It is a bit cartoony for my taste. I play a good bit of Forgotten Hope 2. I like to squad up and play as a re-enactor. It is an old game but has a dedicated fan base.

@@mrsillywalk it's really great to see you enjoying the game, I hope to have as much spirt as you do when I'm 72! This may be unwarranted, but I would love to play together some time!

За советскими танками были боты?

@@mudoyebishe кст что вообще по tank crew слышно?

Many thanks! The Pz.III is quite fun!

I may try to do something like that in the future.

Thank you!

Thank you! I think we work well together too.

Lol nope. That one was brutal.

Overall I do. I have been having a blast with it.

@@Wolfpack345 Cool, I may buy it. Thanks for replying! :)

It is pretty awesome!

I get some mixed nostalgia feeling from watching this. Kinda like ”Panzer Commander but with IL2:Sturmovik graphics” 😅

Lol what do you mean?

@@Wolfpack345 , not much i never played the multiplayer yet , is it like Capture the flag or what to you do ?

Thank you!

Lol!

I have more coming :)

Hahah

Yeah it is lots of fun to multicrew!

It sure is! In my last TC video there was a BF-110 that bombed us.

Dlc. Tank crew: clash at porokhovka

It's basically an entirely new game. Lots of extremely detailed tanks and damage models. But technically a dlc

It does well against T-34. You have to remember that T-34-85 was a late war model.

I was recording the track. I was able to go back and get the cinematic footage. You can access other maps while playing online.

@@Wolfpack345 Awesome. I downloaded the game a few hours ago. My handle is Jadgtiger in the game and will be on the Finnish server so maybe Ill see you guys online.

Mods for SH3 are in the descriptions of my SH3 videos. As for advice I would just start off small with GWX. Modding can be overwhelming.

@@Wolfpack345 start off small and GWX? That's some kind of oxymoron isn't it? :D

It wans't that hard to kill a T-34/76, after the aftermath of the T-34 shock, the germans reconized very fast, that the T-34/76 had some problems, one oft the biggest was, that the tank commander was even the gunner, so he had the problem aim or look around and the in a squad/groupe only the commando tank had a radio, the others not. On the other side, even, the weaker PIII and PIV from the erlier days had a tank crew of 5 members and every tank had a radio, besides their weaker guns and amor they had the better tactic and better crew splitting, that they are able to outmaneuvering a T-34/76 more or less easly.

I have done a bit in PS. To be honest the tanks in FPS games just don't compare.

There is side hatches around about a foot behind the main drive sprocket wheel on either side. So you have to crawl over the bottom suspension and road wheels to get out, that might be a problem if you hit a mine and caught fire as the damage might be to great to crawl out that way.

@@ChrisS-fh7zt Only on the early models (B-J), though. The L-N models didn't have the escape hatch. Some tanks which were ordered as J model were armed with the 5cm L/60 gun and designated as L model: presumably they had the escape hatch. In fact, since the L model also lost the smoke dischargers, the tanks in the video ought to be a couple of those J/L tanks, unless the game isn't 100% realistic, which may be the case.

Thank you!

They were players. SA is hard to keep up in a tank

@@Wolfpack345 reason I say that is the almost total lack of firing back or them driving in the open and showing their side armor

No. I hope that gets added.

@@Wolfpack345 that would be super cool Imagine getin shot and SMOKE

Yes it is!

@@Wolfpack345 hooray as soon as its on sale its in my basket the

@@tomblake189 Awesome!

It is not a bug?

If you are ambushing and the enemy is shooting back you did something wrong.

@@Wolfpack345 not true, ambush gives you the advantage to start, if it goes well the first shot is free. Then you deal with the firefight that follows. But when you can fire cannon and machine guns at a target and the driver doesn't even button up. They just sit there and get shot. Not an ambush, just target practice on defenceless tanks that can't shoot back. Makes a boring video!

@@mattholland8966 I can't help the fact that other players didn't see me lol.

I will do one maybe 2 more CW series. I am taking a short break from the game though.

@@Wolfpack345 cool. Can't wait for CW series. Thanks Wolf! Nice tank engagement by the way :D

Yup! It is called Finnish Virtual Pilots.

I consistently play tanks on finnish, it always has 2-4 guys on each side

No we have not.

Yeah aircraft are pretty scary haha

Unfortunately not.

It's on steam

www.thegreywolves.com/downloads/ There are instructions there on the site too.

Standardbelegung ist Strg + 5, wegstecken ist Strg + ^

He was turning his turret and firing possibly at my squad mate. I was not going to take my chances.

Yes they will engage you. You can destroy them too.

It will be nice if admins add the possibility to capture tank bases with refuel and rearm options on these bases. And moving frontline if enemy tank base is captured.

IL-2 Great Battles il2sturmovik.com/

@@Wolfpack345 ahh thank you

Because AP and APCR aren't the same thing?

@@jameshenderson4876 that’s what I’m saying

@@jameshenderson4876 oh it’s a question, yes they are the same thing

​@@actinganimal885 James is correct. The two rounds are not the same and have very different characteristics. I want to be clear and convey as much information as possible.

@@Wolfpack345 apologize sir, Wikipedia has the description op apcr and say,” ap for short” thanks for clarifying

You are

Third 🤪

Haha congrats.

@@Wolfpack345 can we have a party for Jeffery Nelson? /S

@@keks6014 with lots of beer !! good idea !! thanks !

But that is how it was back then