He is 100% correct. The cabinet is too bloated. What is the use of deputy Ministers? They can't even act in the absence of the minister. It's just an added financial burden on us tax payers.
Further to being bloated, it just shows distrust, ministers and deputy ministers being watchdogs to one another. Unfortunately this goes against the spirit of gnu, underline mostly in that cabinet name, UNITY.
Really.....And what does Matric Domkop John Steenhuisen knows about Farming....what Pieter Groenewald k ow what's going on in a prison??? Does Flatnose Ramaphosa know how to run a country???? You must some sort of a stupid !!!!!
Most of people who are in this cabinet are the ones that failed before.At least should have brought new and those who did well in their department before.
I agree with what ActionSA is saying about the "watch cabinets members", unfortunately people have become very untrusting because of all the corruption. As much as it concerns me that much needed money is going to be wasted on salaries, I take comfort in knowing that by having eyes watching each other, corruption might be curved dramatically. Maybe the cabinet will be reduced next election when watch party members will no longer be needed.
I dont think the deputy ministers are the actual problem. I like the idea of multiple parties keeping each other to account in these ministries. The cost is the actual problem. What i would like to see and i believe the all south africans is cutting salaries and perks. Thats another way of cutting the costs. But sadly i dont think government will take that decision for themself. This is where we can learn from kenya on how to make politicians take its citizens seriously and understand we didnt put them there to live great lifes but rather to give us better lifes.
But I support what action SA is doing,how can u have a government without opposition, where each and every party has a portfolio,how will they challenge the corrupt ANC and DA,?they won't because they'll be scared of being reshuffled.
Kusazoklwejwana kule GNU especially where DA is mixed with ANC in the same department because it won't be easy for leopard to change its sports and ANC d****gz (SADTU, SAPC, COSATU) will buck the for the whole five years because of hunger
You should never Assume because otherwise you make an Ass out of u and me. I would have been nice if you presented the hard evidence of your assumption.
Everyone , including the EFF were invited. Some chose to remain outside in the cold and now whine about. Others , like the EFF make a last ditch effort to get inside but failed.
Atholl you are a liar. Hellen didn’t know the ANC would increase the ministers and even more deputy ministers. Stop whining about the DA FFS and hold the President accountable like you said you would 🤯
I was watching her interview and she denied knowing that Cyril would do what he did.She doesn't strike me as a liar...I believe she is being honest and would not risk her integrity and reputation by lying.
Trollip is a bitter man who knows he missed out on an opportunity of a politicians life time and that is to become a minister in the national government he failed when he was with the DA and run to another party where he is stuck with a loser so stop moaning and give others a chance to try and get the country back on track after all what have you got to loose
To give others what Chance,in your sober mind is it sane if Motsega is a minister of defence and make Holomisa her deputy president,and out of all portfolios were available you take Mackenzie to be in sport instead of police or hone affairs,that Senzo Mchunu in police will be the same as Cele. Trollip is very influential to ActionSA council board,the fact that they chose to remain the opposition party says a lot,from day one they said,they will never wrk with ANC at any stage of governance,even when ANC was desperate.
Rejecting the new cabinets on what basis, because Mashaba indicated earlier and always of not wanting to participate where the ANC and DA are involved. They remain on the opposition benches.. What else could the President would have done at the current circumstances. Let the GNU govern and it was anticipated to be a big cabinet because of all state holders participating in it and the most important factors are peace and stability, growth of the economy, job creation and fighting crime and a multi approach to job creation. Let them work and 'am glad there are young members of parliament , a mix of young and old of which is a good mixture. Goodluck with the new cabibet. It's big to tackle challenges in this country, than having lazy, incompetent and corrupt individuals who have brought the economy of this country to shambles and to it's knees . It's big, because there is a mammoth tasks to disinfect , clean and put every dept in order to be able to function. Comradeship and Tenderpreneuship , been Politics of the stomach is gone. Gone are the days of corruption and let them take their pension benefits from 1994 , it should be enough to move on. Leave the President alone and let him and this cabinet fix this country.
Angie will soon go on retirement and how on earth dies she refuse to retire since 1994 been a cabinet minister with no productivity . This was a compromised position , as she refused to retire or to work with Siviwe as the minister of basic education. It's a sign that she needs to retire. She must retire and the defence doesn't need a magogo with no clue and experience on how this dept operates. All her mates have retired , she won't stay long, as both deputies are still energetic and they will be doing all the work. She will stay in office and do administration. She must go and rest. She's embarrassing herself by refusing to go staying and working in such a demanding department. No mamaAngie go and rest.
Progressive because they have the numbers you don't have and will never have. Progressive because they articulate what they find non-representative of their huge constituency, and that doesn't make them anti-constitutionalists. Many parties have issues with certain parts of this imperfect constitution. ActionSA should have joined the GNU to avoid being bitter from outside.
If he thinks that the ANC would appoint a DA minister without one of his own deputy ministers as a watch dog then he is an idiot. So the chance for a smaller cabinet was basically zero. Why he criticise the DA for the bloated cabinet is beyond me. The only way for the DA to turn this country around is by being part of the cabinet and not by sitting on the sidelines. If that means taking up 6 deputy minister spots along with the 6 ministers then so be it. At least then they can still have some influence in the running of those portfolios.
Quite right, Athol .. just one example of Ramasofa's shambolic & strategic deployments is the appointment of Angie Motshekga as minister of defence ! .. after a disastrous term as minister of education & should've been fired long ago, she now occupies one of the most important portfolios of the govt ! .. if she knows absolutely nothing about education, how & why on earth is she deployed as minister of defence ! .. as for the rest of the deployments, clearly just another ploy to keep the ANC in comtrol for as long as possible .. the majority of deployments don't make any ratiional sense at all !
South Africa will never progress shame, how can an opposition be an opposition of the opposition, this guy is already talking bad of other opposition and he's on opposition benches too. Eish this country hayi madoda kusekude engqinibeni. As for Zille yhoo what a blatant liar... if she didn't know that there'll 33 ministerial position why did she demand 11 out the 18 the DA envisaged... yhoo this country is run by liars and crooks shame..
"We cant afford a few extra deputy ministers" but the success of getting a unified participation to fix the disaster of the Zuma years plus... Soon as some fall by the wayside maybe they dont get replaced... Just shift.
The ANC is represented in all ministries as either a minister, a deputy minister or a second deputy minister. It simply implies that the ANC is fully in charge of everything in essence, making the GNU proposal to sway away from its original intension. Statistically there is a fair degree of deception here.
MINISTER OF DEFENSE IS NOT MAKE SURE... 🥱🥱 IN THAT POSITION WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS... NOT THE ONE WHO IS APPOINTED... AT LEAST THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE GENERAL BANTU HOLOMISA TO BE THE MINISTER NOT DEPUTY...
DA never knew it was sooooo bloated and thats because ANC cant let go and accept they did not get majority Helen said they have nothing to do with bloated cabinets Prayer and action is needed.
All we will be hearing on media is how good this GNU is doing just like the past five years; both the DA and ANC have the media on their side. South Africans can forget about any opposition to hold this government to account. anyone who is not part of the so-called GNU will be radicalized. I feel like crying i ANC ibathengisile abantu abamnyama.
We have no leaders but politicians. Politicians are more worried about positions and the next elections. Leaders they worry and focus on the next generation.
When the ANC "sells out" dutch settlers are even better off than under apartheid, when the DA "sells out" the dutch settlers are even better off than under the very good "democracy".😂
The DA should never have agreed to that letter of intent without stipulating a marked reduction in cabinet posts and a clear understanding regarding proportionality. The ANC, even after its loss, hasn't changed one bit. Now, we sit with a bloated cabinet filled with incompetent ANC deployees and can therefore expect more of the same. The DA is on a leash, so I won't hold my breath. It's quite disappointing, to say the least, and very far from a GNU. The ANC has far too much power because the cabinet does not reflect the will of the people.
I reject it too, particularly the allocation of ministries and there's just too many ministries. We don't need two deputy presidents. It is the waste of taxpayer's money, perhaps we should revolt, this is bs.
HA HA lol i only have a problem with minister of finance that old man is what south africa does not need Athol Trollip is crying out loud to be out of this cabinet they could have got a post in the cabinet