Adam Neely, Racism and the Great American Lie Part 1

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I don't know about you but I get fed up of reading comments on RU-vid that claim Blacks can play Jazz better than whites. This video series will attempt to put that myth to sleep forever.
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@bebopreview3187 Год назад

Unfortunately I've just accidentally deleted an interesting question that asked if Benny Goodman, Chet Baker, or Bill Evans experienced racism. I will speak about this in a future video in this series. However, it can be said that in the early days of Jazz there was no prejudice between musicians of any race, even though we get some musicians like Nick LaRocca claiming that jazz was invented by whites. However, we do see the effects of Jim Crow laws on whites, because the music was segregated, and therefor white musicians found themselves restricted from playing with the black musicians they admired. During the late swing and bebop era (1940s) white musicians started playing in Black bands (like Al Haig for Parker, Stan Levey for Gillespie, and Lee Konitz for Miles Davis.) and these players certainly experienced what can be called racism from other black musicians; who felt they were stealing their work.

@bronzewand Год назад

Thanks for the detailed response, this was my question. Great video and looking forward to the rest!

@facundoboms8955 Год назад

@@bronzewand In Time remembered (documentary about Bill Evans) they explain how he was never applauded after a solo when he entered the Miles Davis Quintet. A lot of the black audience was angry because in came a white boy replacing Wynton Kelly and Red Garland in what was a previously a totally black ensemble

@jaded9234 10 месяцев назад

@@facundoboms8955 That brings up an increasingly common problem where present-day groups attempt to completely ignore one part of a problem while claiming to fight against the entire issue (Racism). This has become especially noticeable in the last decade or so (Media-wise)t it has been an ongoing issue for much longer, but it has finally built up enough enough resentment to reach an apparent boiling point.The only way to effectively deal with an issue such as racism is to attack it from all sides. If one wants to find out who is actually stoking and profiting off of the division one must simply find the people who attribute class-based, urban/rural problems to race and insist that we must only focus on one group's problems at a time. They know that they will be able to keep the conflict going if we are made to only focus on one at a time and ignore growing of the ignored segments issues while they are neglected.

@masscreationbroadcasts 7 месяцев назад

13:48 You know, I did not need to hear the transcript before this time stamp to get the point.

@TheSunnySide Год назад

great video - very thoughtful and sensitive to the topic - I could only watch the first 10mins (you did a really good job but the topic is very off-putting to me - don't stop making them though, the vid was good) - this topic was something we used to speak about in University 30 years ago - it's difficult for me to watch people continue to regurgitate the same nonsense for 30 years (again not you - this was a fresh and gentle approach to a very racist topic) - I don't know what was said after the 10mins mark but (sorry guys but like I said we discussed this at length a long time ago and I haven't seen anything new except more guys complaining that they weren't taught enough Indian ragas or African rhythm groupings - which to me is the strongest example of white privilege you can get) .. IMHO the real reason people have problem learning jazz is they just don't have a strong enough (Western) theory/harmony/counterpoint background or they don't know enough of the vocabulary/licks/phrases (Colloquial and always changing depending geography/culture/technology etc..) - or no one ever showed them how the notes actually go together to make music - 2me it's that simple.. how to turn a scale or chord into music (has nothing to do with skin color) - just my2cents - wishing everyone the best & keep up the great videos - S

@bebopreview3187 Год назад

I think many people will have difficulty getting through this series. To recap this episode. I am making the suggestion that as far as music is concerned races are pretty much equal, therefor they must be some other reason by which one may show more aptitude than another. I consider in American Jazz and Blues that the main catalyst is Racism. This fact has been denied in American History by lesser arguments which I will document. To do that I need to go right back in time and outline the Law as laid down in the South at the time of the birth of Jazz (which this particular video explains) In future episodes I speak about the various types of Jazz that emerged and why the traditional New Orleans Style dominated and Spread throughout America; and on this point I will challenge the current orthodoxy on Jazz history.

@crapadopalese Год назад

My god, what an asinine, sensationalist rant. Adam Neely is saying "we're lucky the stove fire didn't burn the roast", and you go "a-ha! But the stove fire was the one to cook the roast in the first place!!". Also all the clips in the beginning (and especially the long, unnecessary reading of that Prince Charles vulgar transcript) are drawn out and unnecessary. To clarify, I agree with every statement regarding racism made in this video, but any attempt to present this as a video essay rather than a bunch of video clips about racism and jazz is highly pretentious.

@bebopreview3187 Год назад

This is a video series and you have only seen the introduction. The drawing out is necessary; particularly for the Simon Webb crowd who think Charles is a god - yes they have complained to me that he's head of the Church of England and beyond reproach. They ignore class distinction as much as Americans ignore racism. The fact remains that many people believe blacks play jazz better than whites. They don't, and whats more jazz history is a lie. The most important defining factor is racism which is completely ignored or worse covered up. I do give some history in this video on the reconstruction period and part 2 goes into what was happening in the jazz world of the post 1939 period. Later episodes will explain why it is that American racism differs from other forms in the world particularly European and this is the reason why 'the development' of Jazz music could only ever have happened in the USA (coupled of course with U.S cultural transformation). However, you don't have to watch if you don't want to.

@crapadopalese Год назад

@@bebopreview3187 "Necessary"? the dramatic reading of Prince Charles is "necessary"? what important information does it relay? That man is a twat for sure, all the more reason that I don't need to hear someone "humorously" read me his erotic correspondences. I simply don't care about him. Your inclusion of it is mere cheap pornography, a way to "spice up" your video without any real content to it... why not show Princess D's tits while you're at it? You need to admit to yourself that you're taking cheap entertainment, and draping it as a "serious" video essay, all justified by a strawman argument that somehow tries to argue that saying that it's good that a racist cop didn't kill Miles Davis is ignoring that Jazz emerged out of racism. However, you don't have to read my comment if you don't want to.

@juliecostello42 Год назад

Time Stamp: 7:06- "I'm pissed" he whispers to himself, proving ALL of these children were paid to talk about this with an attitude. Why would he remind himself how he feels otherwise?

@bebopreview3187 Год назад

You should watch the whole series as I have. All the privileged children had the education they state in the clip and have highly paid jobs. Of the working class shown, only one attended grammar school and ending up as a librarian (the girl who said she wanted to work in Woolworth) and another did well at comprehensive school and became a teacher. The middle class farmers son became a nuclear physicist and moved to the US.