In a spoiler interview via Empire, director Adam Wingard discusses details on Godzilla vs. Kong, covering scrapped ideas, determining the winner, Kong's victory, and the shared moment between Godzilla and Kong at the end of the film.
That’s the problem isn’t it. G is a lizard titan too heavy to live on land. Ghidorah and mecha showed he is not indestructible. Kong is gorilla like titan, but these animal traits to not paint the full picture. 1962 Kong could take some abreathe hits, thunderstorms appeared when he roared and had elemental powers - not needing humans or a food diet. Same for G as he is not just a slow lizard. Many titans look like animals but should not be bound to what we know about their behaviors from a normal perception
@@petroshalkos3453 oh I agree, its just it feels more like the limit on the potential of Kongs character thinking like that and it feels a bit like an issult which again I GET IT HES AN APE but a fictional one.
@@crimsonfeastyeah this the bias that most kong fans talk about cus its clearly who he sees more and who he sees less than kong is more than a big ape most of the time but we’re glad he got that kinda respect in gxk now
Godzilla had so many advantages like he can breath under water, his skin is nuclear proof, atomic breath, and the height difference so to make it fair kong need at least a iron man hulk buster level suit 💀
Its crazy how he was just a casual fan like the rest of us when he was a kid, just talking about both titans on the playground of your school and eventually you go onto making w Godzilla kong movie yourself. What a dream
That "Son of Kong" was a bit taken out of context. Back in 2013, Peter Jackson supposedly considered Adam Wingard to direct "Son of Kong" as a sequel much like it was to the 1933 original, but ended up being scrapped because by that time the KING KONG™ rights were being moved from Universal to Warner Bros. for the MonsterVerse and the rest is history.
Honestly Kong put up a much better fight than I expected. Like come on Godzilla literally face tanked a nuke and actually got stronger from it instead of you know, dying. Like do you see Kong surviving that ? Another thing that surprised me is that when Godzilla hit Kong with his atomic breath he didn't just blast a hole trough Kong, though I am happy that Kong survived and also glad the movie turned out the way it did.
@@Xenosaurian If anything, they did the complete opposite, like I said, I was expecting Kong would just spontaneously combust and die if Godzilla's atomic breath got too close to him, but instead Kong got hit by it and didn't turn into a massive pile of ash, Kong isn't Kratos he was never gonna be a real challenge against Godzilla, so they gave Kong plot armor thicker than Godzilla's actual armor so he could survive.
@@alunaticwithashotgun9840 I mean, you realize these are fictional giant monsters with superpowers? They are not real, they can be written to have whatever abilities or weaknesses you want them to have. You're just showing your bias against Kong and in favor of Godzilla, and not because it makes any sense narratively speaking. That's just nonsensical Godzilla-fanboy talk.
@@Xenosaurian Except even though these are fictional characters they are shown to have certain abilities and weaknesses, Kong is shown to basically be a 100 meters tall body builder with no special abilities at the time of the movie, he has no armor since literally any sharp thing he has touched can cut him while Godzilla takes nukes to his face, gets dropped from above the clouds and still manages to get up and fight. To Godzilla, fighting Kong without Kong having a weapon is like a 5 meter long crocodile that breathes fire fighting a house cat. This is not bias this is just common sense.
@@alunaticwithashotgun9840 Yeah, again, those are assigned non-essential qualities which may or may not change depending on the intentions of the creators of these products. I have no issue with there being differences in how they can be harmed, but I do take issue with how they downplayed and mistreated him with the way they chose to portray him, especially in relation to Godzilla. I obviously don't share your bias towards Godzilla here, so don't assume it to be some universal truth. And yes, it is blatant bias, not "common sense", as there is no "common sense" with these giant monsters and their fictional arbitrarily assigned abilities and weaknesses.
Now, we got two Crossover movies featuring Godzilla and King Kong. Toho Company Ltd movie monster "Godzilla" and RKO Pictures/Universal Studios movie monster "King Kong".
There’s no way y’all are saying this movie was bias to Godzilla when kong had more screen time and the plot was basically built around him lmfao , also the people complaining about Adam’s commentary is strange to me because he said nothing wrong and spoke truth about how HE felt about the movie he created…even after knowing Kong couldn’t beat Godzilla he some how managed to make kong the hero of this movie by basically saving the day against mechagodzilla, I think they got equal love in this movie with Kong getting slightly more and understanding that this was basically Kong movie because you can’t make this movie without kong but you can make it without Godzilla lmao
You like to tout Greg Keyes all the time, Greg makes it pretty clear in the novel, which uses the script and screenplay that Godzilla was not holding back and was taking Kong serious.
@@iandanielcassidy8126 bro me and you never had a conversation so I’m confused on the “you like to tout Greg Keyes” like where did that come from lmfao
@@DJKobeOnTheBeat - - then the artbook implies the actual timelapse of his fight with Godzilla was about 5-6 hours considering that they are in Hong Kong. Wingard also stated that Kong is tired in GvK thanks to Skull Islands instability. Kong was nerfed and still has some insane feats.
@@buffestshrek157 Because of how badly he messed up GVK as well as the portrayal of Kong. He hasn't done an "incredible job" in the slightest, and GVK is easily one of the worst Godzilla and Kong movies ever.
@@Xenosaurian lmao, are you just salty that Kong didn't beat Godzilla or what? Personally Kong did too much by killing Mecha-G like he was the main character, but I can pass it because most of the little Kong fans would be furious
There weren’t separate holes , it was just one and being that earth is round when kong is looking down at Godzilla , Godzilla is also looking down so to get in to hollow earth he would just jump down like kong did and to get out he would just jump down also….when they get to the Hong Kong side is when they would essentially be coming upward lol
That son of a.. Sigh. Hopefully the next film will do King Kong justice both Character wise and battle wise Edit: I’m here after GxK. It’s not perfect, but I’ll give Adam that- he did a MUCH better job with King Kong battle wise. So that’s a progress
Wingard did Kong justice both character and battle wise tho. As he said, Godzilla won the battle but Kong won the movie. Like, just because Kong lost doesn't give you an excuse to trashtalk the movie.
@@zjjla6283 It's not the loser's identity that makes me trash talk it. I'm perfectly fine with Godzilla being the victor, I truly am What makes me upset was HOW Kong lost..how he didn't feel like that great and tough warrior from the 2017 film and was leaning more to his emotional side rather than bestial.
@@asafakiva1619 Well....to be fair if kong was a literal beast that would be good in fight scenes but less good in regards to emotional scenes cause there's no denying it his emotions really carried the film. He was relatable in ksi definitely but he wasn't the literal main focus in that film so having him be more relatable than beast in gvk worked out in a emotional sense but not in a fighting sense. If only Adam tried to focus on both sides of kong equally though
@@Kaiju-bm4ts Bingo I'm not saying that Kong shouldn't have any emotions at all. It's part of his mythos being a relatable figure that you feel sad for when he does by planes and happy when he saves the day. I'm saying that when he's fighting he needs to go all out. Especially when he needs to prove himself against a stronger foe. He did good, but could've been so much more.
suck it up, Kong lost to a generally stronger opponent than him, doesn't make him weak like you're whining about,just means he isn't as strong as Godzilla. And if you bring up warbats, then kong not being a indestructible god that can do anything on his own is natural, not even Godzilla beats everything he faces with ease so there's no reason why Kong could. Sad to see Kong fanboys are hating on the movie because of how overhyped kong strength was and get mad when they realized that he's not some perfect jungle god and actually struggles and loses to those stronger than him.
@@TaiChino That was always part of the MonsterVerse Godzilla's characterization from the beginning and his destructive tendencies have been alluded to in the first two films, especially KOTM making it very clear that just because he protects the planet doesn't necessarily mean he cares about humans and will not hesitate if we become his next greatest enemy, and we did one movie later. Think of it as expanding Godzilla's character in each passing installment.
@@TaiChino Godzilla's Personality in the MonsterVerse: In Godzilla, Godzilla's behavior is that of a territorial animal, Ishiro Serizawa theorized that Godzilla is the driving force to restore balance to nature whenever that balance is disrupted, suggesting that he essentially considers the entire Earth to be his territory. However, unlike previous incarnations, Godzilla doesn't blatantly attack or plow through ships at sea simply because they're there, in fact, with larger ships like aircraft carriers, he simply dives under them, even when the military launched a combined forces assault to stop him, he didn't react or fight back, and simply continued to hunt the MUTOs, even when he was being flanked by four naval ships. As opposed to any sort of morality, it appears to be that he simply considers humans to be tiny and insignificant and does not care about their general well-being but at the same time does not consider them worth destroying even though they, without harming him at all, fire at him nonstop. Godzilla does not seem to destroy on purpose, even when he destroyed the Golden Gate Bridge, it did not appear to be intentional, but just him reacting from being hit in the gills by explosives. He displays little interest in humans and focuses his attention entirely on the MUTOs. His supposed disinterest in the well-being of humans may be caused by their repeated attempts to kill him, the same attempt that showcased their destructive capabilities. After defeating both MUTOs, he leaves humans alone without any more conflict. However, Godzilla does occasionally display signs of advanced thinking, as he is seen adapting his strategies to fight the MUTOs and even uses sleight-of-hand to trick the male MUTO into approaching his tail, which he uses to impale him on a fallen skyscraper. He appears to possess some degree of emotion as he briefly looks Ford Brody in the eye when he collapses to his level, which also could suggest that he has at least some degree of interest in humans. Godzilla was designed to have a personality that would evoke the "last samurai" archetype, an ancient warrior content with solitude and preferring not to be a part of the world but has to resurface when certain types of events force him to appear and set things right. Godzilla's most notable relationships with other Titans are with MUTOs, Mothra, Ghidorah, and Kong. With Mothra, they are true allies, more so than their past incarnations that were prone to be at odds with each other since their species have symbiotic relationships with one another. Mothra's undying loyalty towards Godzilla is best demonstrated when she assists him in their fight against Ghidorah and Rodan, using her webs to glue Ghidorah onto a skyscraper, and incapacitating Rodan after he fought her. Their ancient alliance had been defined in romantic terms, with Dr. Ilene Chen calling Mothra "Queen of the Monsters" and Chief Warrant Officer Jackson Barnes questioning if "they got a thing going on", though subsequently Dr. Sam Coleman explains it as a "symbiotic relationship". As she died, Godzilla roared in grief while he absorbed her life-force, allowing him to go thermonuclear and vaporized Ghidorah. Following the battle, Godzilla had not forgotten Mothra’s sacrifice, and her gift of life led him to find a new home. Godzilla perceived MUTOs as uneasy ally at best through Queen MUTO who submits to him as her alpha and both deadly pests and natural enemy at worst through the conflict with MUTO couple he killed at San Fransisco and MUTO Prime. Lastly, in the case of Ghidorah and Kong, the two are Godzilla's fierce rivals as shown in various cave paintings where he is depicted fighting alternatively with one of them for different reasons; whereas with the former, their feud could be best described as the battle between light and darkness owing to the extraterrestrial Titan's malicious nature and desire to lay waste upon Earth, Godzilla and Kong battled each other because of their species' long-standing rivalry, but the two nevertheless willing to put aside their difference in facing a common threat. After defeating Mechagodzilla together, the two make amends to each other and went on separate ways on better terms. When Godzilla becomes the alpha again, he does not attack the other Titans who followed Ghidorah and instead spares them when they swear their allegiance to him again. Following Ghidorah's death, Godzilla starts to care for the well-being of the human race, as evidenced by a clipping in the end credits mentioning that Godzilla is keeping the other Titans from attacking major human settlements. In Godzilla vs. Kong, Godzilla revealed to possess the capacity to become aggressive and violent towards humans and Titans alike if he is provoked, something Madison Russell acknowledged as it was not his nature to wreak havoc upon human settlements without cause or reason. He wreaked havoc upon Apex Cybernetics' facilities upon sensing that its human occupants desecrated the remains of his arch-nemesis Ghidorah with signals they released being dead giveaways, and that he tried to prevent them from destroying themselves along with the planet they live on with said remains. He does, however, not involve other Titans in the search and had them returned to dormancy as revealed in the prequel comic, Godzilla Dominion, so they won't inadvertently get into his way or worse, swayed by his revived nemesis once again and subsequently undo the very damage they mended together. His worst fear came true in the form of the destructive, out-of-control Mechagodzilla - influenced by Ghidorah's remains grafted into its systems - and would've continued what the extraterrestrial Titan started had he and Kong failed to stop it. His mission to eliminate the threat came into the conflict of Kong who - though having nothing to do with Ghidorah's resurgence - is an example of Godzilla's willingness to eliminate those who oppose him from his goal, in addition to their race's past conflicts. While he displayed brutal and prideful tendencies when fighting Kong at Hong Kong, as he gave of a particularly menacing grin followed by a grumble evocative of a chuckle of sorts when he singed Kong's back with his atomic breath, Godzilla's confrontation with Kong was partly due to frustration by his rival unknowingly deterring him from stopping Apex Cybernetics twice. However, this didn't stop him from sparing the ape-like Titan's life since the latter was not the threat he sought, and to a subtle degree, Kong's defiance in the face of defeat earning him the King of the Monsters' respect. This noble decision ultimately saved his life during a hopeless fight against Mechagodzilla, since it allows Kong to assist his likely ally against a common enemy.
how is this even still a debate ? kong is indeed a badass. he is not nuclear, armored, or survives nuclear blasts...there is one King of the Monsters...and hes Japanese...that must irk Kong fans
The ending scene of Kong returning to the Hollow Earth with Jia/Monarch was the original post-credit scene, but was instead placed into the actual movie. That said, it sounds like there was a more "extended" version of that, that teased or hinted ideas towards the next direction for the MonsterVerse - but was cut a bit, likely because they were unsure if the MV would continue depending on GVK's success.
Wingard should've never directed GvK, we could've had a VS film where both Godzilla and Kong are actually treated like formidable opponents, but nope Wingard just had to let his bias show and play favorites, completely ruining all the built-up hype for this long anticipated rematch.
I loved Kong equally in this movie; he did get the upper hand w Godzilla in the second round and even though I’m a Godzilla fan, Kong did win the day against Mecha G at the end even though Godzilla won the third Hong Kong fight, great movie
@@TheGrimKnight big Kong fan as well grew up with both him and Godzilla. Yes, Godzilla won the final battle but Kong won the movie and saved Godzilla and considering Kong had no special powers, he did well with just raw strength/speed and agility. Hats off to him
@@Xenosaurian a year later and you're still whining 🙄....manchild learn the concept of "move on" you were literally being a fanboy for kong before the film's released
@@jazzpianoman01 Hate to break it to u, but Kong only defeated MG with Godzilla’s and Josh Valentines help as he was easily outmatched by Mechagodzilla (even with the axe but not charged)
Man, Adam Wingard doesn't know whether he's coming or going. Haha He says Kong became, "King Kong", when sitting on his throne in the bonus features on the blu-ray, but here he says he doesn't. He has good taste in music, at least.
Oh I definitely view Kong as a king in his own right, I just think it's funny how Wingard contradicts himself/the creative team behind GVK constantly. Haha
I like how a lot of comments here actually believe that Adam Wingard and the movie itself are biased towards Godzilla when that is absolute bullshit of the highest order. Like Wingard said here, the fights are dictated by the monsters' strengths and weaknesses and I believe it after watching the fights multiple times. Yeah, the first round puts Kong at a disadvantage fighting Godzilla in his watery domain and without a proper means of defending himself against Godzilla's Atomic Breath weapon, but the movie then puts Godzilla at a disadvantage in the second round as Kong is not only a better fighter on land but can move around the city terrain better than the much heavier and bulkier Godzilla ever could, being outmatched by a weapon that was made specifically to kill him (aside from MechaGodzilla) - a weapon made by using the remains of his kind, so it evens it out and that all makes it fair. Only the third round is where the rules changed and neither side was allowed to use their respective weapons, only tooth and claw and the winner is decided through a logical conclusion, and whoever got up first won. I find it even more hilarious that all the morons in this comment section don't get squat about two things: Godzilla's victory and Kong's axe. • First of all, regarding the battle axe, it's funny how people claim that the axe is bullshit, that it's giving Kong a cheat code or whatever, but the comical irony here is that without the axe this would indeed be a biased fight because Kong would have no proper way of defending himself against the beam and would have nothing to stand equal to the King of the Monsters in battle. Had it gone down that way, then I too would be the one complaining about bias, but for different reasons. 'Sides, it's better than that asspull from the original KKvsG where Kong (taking Frankenstein's place) got lighting powers out of nowhere and is given something that makes better sense and less horse dung. • Second, regarding Godzilla's victory - and mind you I am a big fan of both monsters equally and grew up with them equally - if the movie is going to commit to actually giving a definitive winner, unlike so many other versus movies including KKvsG that all copped out, then that means you are going to have to show for all the world to see that one of the two is stronger than the other. Since the third round was strictly physical strength, no weapons, no axe, no atom breath, and taking both this movie and the previous three into account, lemme ask you one question: did you ever believed for even a single second that Kong would win in a muscle-on-muscle, "no weapons allowed" fight against Godzilla? Because that aforementioned third round was purely physical and look who turned out to be the physically stronger foe. Yeah, no, Godzilla earned that win fair and square, and again to reiterate this is coming from someone who is also a Kong fan. And don't bullshit me either because you all knew this for years, even long before Legendary ever got the Godzilla rights, so don't even bother try lying to me.
Speed and agility Godzilla's top swimming speed can exceed up to 60 knots (69.04 mph) and he is fast enough to slam the male MUTO onto a skyscraper with his tail. Godzilla is also able to run at great speed when charging Ghidorah, running in a horizontal posture comparatively similar to that of a theropod dinosaur. During his battle with Kong in the city of Hong Kong, Godzilla could be seen running on fours in an almost crocodilian-like fashion to reach Kong.
Godzilla (MonsterVerse) fell backwards after being hit by Kong's battle axe. Although, Godzilla wasn't really knocked out cold. Godzilla instead being stunned by Kong's battle axe and never shows an unconscious Godzilla. Godzilla gets berserk and battle Kong for one last time.
This is Crossover vs. movie, same with King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962). Kong is nearly on par with Godzilla in terms of physical strength. By 2024, he possesses the strength to take on Titans as powerful as Godzilla.
I'm not sure what is biased in thinking that Kong can indeed brawl with Godzilla and possibly coming out on top, in no uncertain terms. If you use the KKvsG version, he's even highly resistant to the atomic breath to begin with. Godzilla momentarily getting the upper hand comes after Kong sets himself up for trouble after missing an opening on his opponent and his head ends up hitting a boulder after a fall. Where I think Godzilla traditionally has a clear advantage is in durabity because of armor. That being said I can't be among anyone who may believe he is weaker either. They were tossing and slapping each other around.
@@TB-to8uy "Second Showa Godzilla's Abilities": Amphibious lifestyle, Atomic breath, Durability, Energy absorption and projection, Flight, Intelligence, Magnetic powers, Physical abilities, Regeneration. "Second Showa Godzilla's Weaknesses": Electricity, and Subzero temperatures. "Anti-Godzilla weaponry: MechaGodzilla": The first Mechagodzilla was created as a weapon of destruction by the Black Hole Planet 3 Aliens. Mechagodzilla's body was constructed of a nearly indestructible alloy only known as "space titanium," was equipped with a staggering amount of firepower and had rockets for flight. Godzilla defeated it by pulling its head off. An updated version of the same mecha returned in Terror of Mechagodzilla, and this time it survived its head being ripped off.
The problem with this movie is that they marketed it to look like Team Godzilla and Team Kong kinda shit like if this is a match. If they had shot in way like Kong is in Danger, which is what Adam said but he didn't make it clear in the movie. Kong is in danger because Godzilla is an OG while Kong is new to this shit. This whole Marketing crap divided the fanbase.
People saying that this isn’t biased remember Kong was the original titan and he won the original fight without having Godzilla’s armor tail spikes teeth or atomic breath hotter than the sun and also not being a aquatic creature beat him in the water. In this movie Kong didn’t even get his powers to atleast make the fight fair and they had Kong running around and falling into the earth the entire movie my mans didn’t get a break and on top of that in the first fight it wasn’t even fair Godzilla used his atomic breath to make Kong go into the water so that he had the godly unfair advantage and spammed his atomic breath on him the entire movie the only time Kong actually seemed to put up a fight is when he was up close and didn’t let Godzilla get the atomic breath off and it seemed like fair ground then the axe he used turned out to be useless unless it was about to explode and Godzilla tired Kong out then slammed him into a building with his spikes and slammed him on the ground and used his weight to dominate him. But to also be fair Kong never fought a titan before and gave godzilla business and also godzilla had so many years of experience and fought a godly titan the fact that kong put up the fight that he did says something
This commentary feel like Adam admits how bias the whole view of the thing was, I mean I get that Kong's more relatable but keeping Godzilla just an antagonistic for Kong to overcome puts a pretty bad light on the character even with there being no closure on his connections with humanity by having him just leave Hong kong like nothing happend just feels a little unsatisfying and I don't care about how the heel turn was foreshadowed in KOTM and the whole he's just force of nature the audience has to have a reason to want him to win besides he's just looks cool especially how this universe had both monsters be shown as sympathetic. And this is my personal opinion and if you don't agree don't hate.
Well, the movie gives a solid reason to want both Kong and Godzilla to win: ------------ ( ) Godzilla was provoked into resurfacing and attacking upon sensing a rival threat, to which was ultimately mankind trying to terminate him with a powerful titan war-machine, and he sensed it seemingly with every activation/operation, no doubt with each operation moved to a different location as he attacked multiple Apex facilities around the globe. Apex sees this as an opportunity to frame Godzilla's attacks as an act of war against the survival of mankind, likely to further justify its creation, soften any controversy around MechaGodzilla when it came time to release the mech, and paint it as a savior, should it have succeeded in killing Godzilla and not gone out of control. () ---------- Nevertheless, Godzilla's rampage is justified, and for a destructive chaotic-neutral anti-hero, whose eliminating threats to the planet, and keeping both mankind and Titans in check, there's good enough reason to want him to win.
(Continuing/Final) Mankind/Apex is throwing Kong at a provoked/framed Godzilla, and that paints Man within an even worse light, as the true film antagonist, given how the story unfolds, and how Apex is essentially forcing two forces of nature to collide -- with the winner likely to be destroyed by humanity via MechaG, and mankind greenlighting the destruction of the Titans (and unknowingly themselves). With all of this, the audience has plenty reason to want Godzilla to win, to want Kong to win, and in a way get justice for man's abuse, manipulation, and near termination of them-- it all just so happens to wrap around a title-match.
@@GormaruIsland but like I said there’s no closure to the Godzilla/humanity relationship and Godzilla being provoked doesn’t seem like much of a reason to root for him if they added something like a having a bonding moment with Maddison to show he still sees some faith in humanity that be fine but as it is and even with his reasons, Godzillas just a psychopathic @sshole who just wants to stay top dog
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One of the main story writers of Godzilla vs. Kong, he was the main writer of the 1994 American Godzilla Film that almost came to be, but was scrapped by Tristar and turned into G98
To an extent, but they weren't sufficiently great, they were largely disappointing and anticlimactic, and Kong got brutally defeated in each one for no good reason.
@@Xenosaurian Just because Kong is the supposed "good guy" doesn't automatically mean he deserves to win. Godzilla simply outclasses Kong by feats alone. The only thing that kept Kong alive up to that point was pure plot armor.
@@jackson-pl5zg By your reasoning Thanos should have won at the end of Endgame, or Sauron should have won in LOTR, or the Red Death should have won in HTTYD, or King Ghidorah should have won in KOTM or the like. Them downplaying Kong only made the experience so much worse. That movie was messed up. You can make whatever decision you want, but that doesn't mean it will make a good experience for the audience nor make sense narrative wise.
The director is biased he’s literally said himself he made the entire movie because he was unhappy that Kong won in the original film. Now when he’s making movies he puts Godzilla on some sort of throne when that’s not the case Godzilla has his fair share of absolute loses like against ghidorah he lost every fight on fair ground without help of mothra or the humans he got demolished everytime and even in the water with the hydrogen bomb Godzilla was the only one so got downed. ( sorry for poor grammar)
@@HazmatValdez I mean in these movies where they make him look weak every second they can while making Godzilla some unstoppable force hell they didn’t even give Kong his powers
In the Context of the Legendary Universe, why would Godzilla lose. He's been around for tons of wars and is genetically built like an absolute Unit compared to so many other Kaiju. The fight was so awesome, Kong really gave it his all and earned Godzilla's respect. Kong is the underdog of this movie and it honestly makes a good script, considering he wants to finish the war his people started but Godzilla could give a fuck about that.
As a fan of Monsterverse I liked a lot the other movies but in this one I save only the fights between Godzilla and Kong, all the rest is ridiculous. Too many jokes and teenagers. In King of the Monters I loved the staff of Monarch, the Argo ecc ecc. In this one there are only stupid characters except the child and Ilene Andrews. No explanation of the son of Serizawa. It is evident that there was more content to show but Adam Wingard didn't care about fans of Monterverse, he cared about the casual people with laser and Marvel/ Star Wars effects. No suspense for Godzilla appearances like in the other movies, even his theme was cut... I still hope that one day we will have the opportunity to see a kind of extended edition with the deleted scenes
Ehhhh, *shrugs* don't know about that ya know? A tiny bit much? Two teenagers is too many, oh, come on buddy don't be silly. As for jokes, well there were as many jokes in KOTM as they were in GVK, and for both films, much of them don't land well except for maybe one or two, which at best earn a chuckle. They REALLY have to work on stronger humor for the MV films. As for stupid characters - could you elaborate more? Jia, Nathan, Dr. Llene, Mark Russell, Madison Russell, Maia Simmons, Walter Simmons, their characters we're all serviceable, well performed, and weren't stupid in the slightest, their actions, motivations, threaded a fair enough human plot against the Titan conflict of the story. Not perfect, or deep, but servable and memorable enough, with just enough heart thanks to Jia. The only characters that felt -- well, we wouldn't say stupid, but felt undercooked, were Bernie, Josh, and unfortunately, Ren Serizawa. And sadly, if you removed them, the plot would change slightly, but not much at all.
Mark and Madison could've been the ones to investigate Apex, with Madison attempting to prove Godzilla's actions as defendable provocations of war, while Mark is also attempting to do the same, but is prepared to accept the worse that maybe Godzilla had turned against humanity. Which could've been interesting as he could've been a character at war with himself, still struggling with the lost of his family due to Godzilla and the Titans, and his feelings that they're too dangerous and should be destroyed. And ultimately trying to keep alive the only remaining family left that Godzilla and the Titan conflict hasn't taken away yet.
*_"Adam Wingard didn't care about fans of Monterverse, he cared about the casual people"_* Uh, duh! That's who movies are usually made for in the first place, fan bases are very small compared to the general audience and the general audience will always matter more than the fans, especially since the GE is bigger and is where the money comes from. I'm not saying the fans don't matter, but the fans aren't enough for the movie to gain its profit. It's called business, son, deal with it.
@@MrAwsomeness360 A very fair point - franchise blockbusters are for both fans and the general audience, but are geared more so towards the general audience as they are the primary income towards a successful B.O turnout. That said, Adam Wingard, we would politely debate, does care about the fans, and the MonsterVerse, and put forth the best respectable efforts possible into GVK's making. To which we say, was a solid MV entry that was delivered well -- lessons from its success, we hope however, are well studied and carefully digested to make better stories/films. We love GVK, it did well in making Godzilla and Kong feel like impactful/foreground characters be it on and off-screen, and in making the Titan conflict the greater focus, but it needed a more balanced human story - it has plenty heart -- just needed to bake a little more.
It's so obnoxious and repulsive hearing Wingard speak about Kong in relation to Godzilla. "I felt so insulted! It's a fact Godzilla would win! There's no partiality here!" The bias could not be more blatantly obvious than this. Kong and Godzilla are BOTH fictional giant supermonsters with fictional abilities that doesn't and probably couldn't exist in real life! His strawmanning of Kong as "just a big monkey" would be equal to portraying Godzilla as "just a big lizard". This is such selfish and immature reasoning for favoring Godzilla as the winner. He really should NOT have been allowed to make this film nor anyone who thought having Godzilla win would be a good idea. It completely ruins our journey with Kong that built up towards a victory and instead ended in a depressing anticlimax for no apparent reason.
@@JR17_561 Why? Kong was the underdog main character and we saw a progressive story arc where he lost all his battles and built up towards a compelling victory. What we got was just a depressing anticlimax that made no sense, it made the whole ordeal even worse, and ruined the experience! There was no reason for Godzilla to win, and there was no meaning or power in it. They could at least have made Kong far superior to make Godzilla's victory feel at least a little bit earned. What was even the point? He was just humiliated and downplayed for no reason. Kong was treated so poorly in this film...
@@Xenosaurian my guy just because kong is the underdog doesn't automatically mean he wins, rocky was a underdog in his first film and LOST. Being a underdog doesn't give a automatic pass to win. It's funny you say there's no reason for godzilla to win which is the exact kong fanboy argument children like you always say. Kong won in the original fight so godzilla deserves this win. Making kong be superior to godzilla also wouldn't make any lick of sense when kong is supposed to be the underdog at a disadvantage not godzilla. You are a prime example of Americans getting too used to underdogs winning and getting mad when they lose for a change.
Because his kind had beaten Godzillas, 1962 movie he did beat Godzilla, and if Kong didn’t need g in the hollow earth he would have beaten him to death. Thats why
@@Slapyourmomma30 well out of the context of the movie yeah there's always a possibility the writers could just write something different or just repeat the original film in 1962.
@@jackiesimplejakeI gave you historic precedence, I gave you current example of Kong being more than a gorilla but could have killed G, and I gave you facts from the novelization. All are relevelant facts, that refutes what you say. I want to make the point he’s more than an overgrown gorilla, that he’s a god too. I don’t see how I’m out of context. Please be specific where I am factually inaccurate and we can respectfully debate
@@Slapyourmomma30 because the Legendary monster verse is not the same as the Toho Universe, so just because Kong won in the original doesn't mean he's going to have a chance in other films. Godzilla in the legendary universe is an extremely expert fighter who has been around for a million years, in fact part of the lore is that he's been around since the Kong and Gojira war. Godzilla killed off many kongs by himself, Kong is 100 percent the underdog in this movie and he's also written by the director to be the underdog. Yeah Kong is also a Kaiju, he's not just a monkey, but he's absolutely outmatched against Godzilla. The director said in the fight that Godzilla was only Toying with Kong until he hit him in the head with an axe. After that Godzilla turned the Gas on and took him out in a few attacks.
@@jackiesimplejake I agree with some of that. Wingard in an interview directly addresses G vs. K as remake of toho, and that's very obvious. In that same interview wingard admitted to being a full blown godzilla fan and was mad at the toho film for making kong win. Because of that bias, he did not make kong like he was portrayed in the toho movie. He is more of big gorilla than having the powers of monster - and that was deliberate. In the original kong is a tier 1 alpha titan able to go toe to toe with godzilla, and win. This one he was nerfed. They did better in Gxk than GvsK, but all good. Kong could have killed G when he was knocked out (round 2) but set up a stupid trap instead. Gxk he could have killed G again but knocked him out to drag to HE. G doesn't have the patience to toy with any titan obviously. G doesn't have that mental ability. To prove that, get a few hits on him and he goes to Abreathe. Thats like someone shooting at you while your wrestling with them and they I was just playing with you. The writers will do what they do, but kong should be portrayed and respected as an alpha monster. You can still have G win but respect the opponent.
Yes, this was biased. Adam Wingard just told you he was biased since being a kid. In his mind, there was never a way for Godzilla to lose and he went into it knowing Kong would never win, and his comments towards the end, “I’m the King, you’re just Kong in the title”, exemplifies his bias. Contrast this to the Original Godzilla vs Kong, Kong won… So, it’s whatever. 🤷♂️
I still don't understand why people are calling him bias for thinking Godzilla would win ever since he was a kid, if a guy thinks an ant would defeat an elephant and another guy disagrees does that make him bias for the elephant? We saying if the other guy wasn't bias for the elephant the ant would actually defeat the elephant in a fight ?
If Godzilla is just gonna win no matter what, then why even bother making this film. ITS A VERSUS MOVIE FOR CHRIST SAKE. I expect both monster to be equally matched for an entertaining fight 🤦♂️
You should have asked him why he nerfed KONG AND WHY IN THEE HELL DID GODZILLA GET DOWN AND CRAWL LIKE A CROCODILE WHEN HIS LEGS ARE MUCH BIGGER AND HEAVIER THAN HIS ARMS. He couldnt possibly do that logically.
@gauthamkrishna7734 cry for what? We all saw Godzilla counting constellations and pummeled into being unconscious with his new found once again ass pull power ups 😆 🤣 😂
@@HEZEKYHWH lol...kong would have been RIP if mothra didnt save your baby monkey's ass...your little monkey always rely on some weapons or others to win every fight...even the war bats was going to finish the monkey🙈🤣🤣
And it was the right move. Godzilla is physically superior, no fucking denying it. And yet he still lost EMBARRASSINGLY to Kong in the OGM So why the hell would they make the stronger of the 2 loose AGAIN?
@@spider-man500 Nah Godzilla is just more plot armoured with biased directors and biased fanboys that would have raged in toxicity if he lost. That's why he won. Kong deserved the win. His movie made more money than the gecko's two.
@@spider-man500 PHYSICALLY SUPERIOR THIZ TRU....BUT KONG IZ WHY SMAT'ER AND HAS THUMBS.....U KNOW LIKE A TIGER IS PHYSICALLY SUPERIOR 2 YOU...BUT YOUR BRAIN IS SMAT'ER & YOU HAVE THUMBS 2 MAKE A GUN...BANG THE TIGER BYE BYE KITTY CAT... LOL..... I KNOW PPL LUV THE ZILLA... AND I KNOW THIZ IZ ENTERTAINMENT....BUT HAVE YOU DONE ANY RESEARCH ON A FULL GROWED SILVERBACK GORILLA LOL.... THE SEED AND STREANTH..AND INTELLIGENCE IZ WHY PAST ANT REPTILE...LOL
@@theonewhoismany8072 Godzilla literally had to have the radiation in order to survive Godzilla species had the ability to use it? And if anything kong had plot armor he had use one gojiras ancestors dorsal as a weapon that barely did anything Godzilla what so ever? And do you not know what Godzilla is capable of? He survived the meteorite blast, he blew a whole through the earth, survived a nuke, able to send nuclear pulse and go thermonuclear and his power will just keep increasing yea sorry but kong is a cool character and has smarter brains then Godzilla dose but Godzilla power,size,mass, and overall strength and he is intelligent aswell is putting him on the top here
@@lizzywizzypop5961 All you listed are consequences of shitzilla being an overated crap character getting random powerup after random powerup via fanboy directors. And this movie was no exception.The entire movie was filled with gecko favoritism.
The Movie was a 6/10 to me, they delayed the Movie so often. I thougt there would be a Skull Island fight or better Fights. Story was weaker than in KOTM, tbh KOTM was the best monsterverse movie to me.
After I see the movie of Godzilla vs. Kong 2021 I was hype to see The 9 Unseen Titans who doesn't show up in the end of Godzilla King Of The Monsters 2019 and also they didn't appear in the prequel comic novel: Godzilla Dominion only Titans show up in the prequel comic is Amhuluk, Tiamat & Na Kika ( honestly Those 3 Titans: Amhuluk, Tiamat & Na Kika They deserve to made in CG Live Action & Also Camazotz Too) but the other 9 Titans wasn't seen in Godzilla Dominion & Godzilla vs. Kong like: Yamata No Orochi, Mokele Mbembe, Bunyip, Typhon, Baphomet, Abaddon, Sekhmet, Leviathan & Quetzalcoatl so I enjoy Godzilla vs. Kong in Regular maybe but For me MonsterVerse is still Unexplained and Unanswered About The Titans .
Godzilla's breath is composed of Cherenkov Radiation. In the real world, Cherenkov Radiation moves at speeds from 75% the speed of light through a vacuum, to beyond it in water.
I don't think highly of the film, half of it is the human story which continues to get less and less as interesting as the monster story with each entry of the monster verse. gareth had great long takes in godzilla '14 with a great couple who get killed by muto decades apart then switches to decent pov throughout with the son - and a lack of the titular character unfortunately. skull island had 3 too many humans surviving on their own then assisting king in the end. king of the monsters have a dead son and 3 too many characters in chairs behind computers in a jet. But VS just gives everyone a dead relative instead of characterization: a dead brother, a dead wife, dead village, dead brother again - at a dozen too many humans. and i'll always wonder what VS would've been if it was another director, if netflix had released the numbers from wingards crap deathnote film and if legendary hadnt have given him the reigns for 2 kong films... His answer here kinda stinks too, working within a bias for zilla with some respect for kong who he views as an ape vs jordan vogt robert's goal of depicting him as a god - humanoid 30s claymation design over just an ape with an axe...
How can you take over a whole franchise and make it about your favorite character when Godzilla is inspired by Kong and embarrass Kong fans by showing him getting stepped on. And not even giving him one win to really just show how you feel about the conflict but you make Godzilla have all these powers and unfair advantages then when he actually loses you say he was weakened but also say he didn’t try against Kong???? (Poor grammar)
Wingard was biased towards Godzilla as he specifically states that he was a Godzilla fan and was not able to create one scenario where Kong would win. So from the beginning the only thing he wouldnt change was the outcome of the fights. Also, it is one of the dumbest plots that i have ever seen, as Kong is suposed to be the hero and still looses to the villain. As a comparison it would be like if Godzilla of KOTM was defeated at the end by Ghidorah. Simply pathetic
Technically, Godzilla wasn’t the villain of the story, Mechagodzilla was. Godzilla was more of an anti-hero in this one. Also, Kong did win Round 2, so he did get a few wins Besides, logically (yeah, I’m using that word) Godzilla would win in a fight against Kong is were analyzing the characteristics of each monster.
must i repeat myself if it was the original kong godzilla or mecha godzilla would of just step on him cause he was only 25feet , kong had the luck of being boosted to godziila size in the monsterverse. he put up a good fight and even beat mecha godzilla who was owning godzilla so there was no bias . only you getting upset about nothing .
@@rexon31 So getting help every 2 seconds and not being able to fight a single battle on your own is okay with you? That kind of method is "not biased" as you say? Yeah right.. it's a shame he directs the Kong sequel because he just might repeat all that. The guy is a Godzilla fan plain and simple, he doesn't appreciate Kong's fighting capability. Otherwise Kong would still lose but put up WAY better fight then how he performed (and of course release himself out of trouble when possible)
@@asafakiva1619 I hope Adam wingard does it right and good writers join. I feel that since kong is in hollow earth he will be much more powerful and experienced. Kong was like rocky in GVK, he should be more ferocious in the next film. Let’s hope for it.
@@BKJREALMZ It's good to see you have some optimism for the next entry. It truly is an important factor👍🏼 I mean it. Either way I'm not as thrilled for the next film really. I leaned more on the Jackson version for how it's simply perfect. But who knows..time will tell if king Kong will get his well deserved redemption in the monsterverse
This bias dude shouldn’t have directed this. Kong and many of the other titans being thrown into this universe are too indestructible gods. Kong won in the original inception of this whole entire universe that you are remaking. So this guy nerfs Kong to the point of insult. Disrespected the first and original American titan decided by the original creators to be the victor - so he weakens K to the point of not even being a contender. Godzilla can win this time absolutely, but don’t disrespect the kong character like that
@@alex_ander-22- If you are remaking the 62 original than you have to make them within relative size to each other to fight. They have explained kongs growth multiple times.
@@godofdrip4889 not gonna be rude because we’re all monster fans but you are factually incorrect! “All other original Japanese text documents do not declare a win for either monster. Also Tomoyuki Tanaka officially declared the final fight a draw in his Toho official book called “Definitive Edition Godzilla Introduction”. Here are translated pages from the book to confirm it.” So Toho says Kong won and every country but Japan says Kong won as to not upset their countrymen en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:King_Kong_vs._Godzilla Godzilla was portrayed as the bad guy that needed to be stopped and that’s what Kong did. They respected the American legend Kong. Please try to be factually correct if you want to debate and you should take back the bias comment about Kong fans because you have been proven wrong
