Adapting a Schneider 80mm Lens to the Pentax 67 - A Unique Option

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In this video, I'm testing out a new lens for the Pentax 67 that I had custom-made-a Schneider Xenotar 80mm f2.8 HFT from the Rollei SLX 6x6 camera system. I'm hoping this could be a replacement for the amazing, but expensive, Pentax 67 75mm f2.8. I head out to photograph some racing here in England and share the images as well as my first impressions.
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@panelsandbars1529 Год назад

These are honestly some of the strongest images you’ve featured in your videos. So impressive.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thank you. 🙏 I was quite happy with a few of them considering how busy/fast-paced the environment was.

@MathieuStern Год назад

You should try to adapt some vintage Cinestar cinema lenses on the 67

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Haven't heard of those before. I'll check them out. Cheers, Mathieu!

@carbonejack Год назад

The shot of the driver in the car is superb.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thanks, Jack.

@ChrisVidouras Год назад

I always enjoy your videos Kyle, consistency in terms of content and style is something I've come to appreciate in photography channels. Very few channels keep it consistent and interesting so congrats for that! The lens looks and shoots great, happy shooting!!

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

I appreciate that, Chris! Thank you!

@derkarhu5079 Год назад

Yes, nice, smooth look, and the 'separation' works beautifully

@chewychop Год назад

Great look to those shots. Thanks for sharing them with us Kyle.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Glad you like them! Cheers, Shane.

@michaelbennettphoto Год назад

Beautiful images Kyle! Your photos always have such a beautiful and consistent look to them.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

I appreciate that, Michael. Thanks!

@Shmooexe3440 Год назад

Amazing video as always Kyle! Would love to see more of these converted lens comparison videos! Thank you for your input to the community!

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thank you, Ashley!

@nathanwatson3298 Год назад

Excellent photos as always. That lens looks great on the Pentax!

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thanks Nathan!

@ExpiredBren Год назад

The Xenotar looks great at 2.8! This has definitely got me wanting to look into some non-native glass for the P67. Thanks for sharing Kyle🙌

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

It's a good one!

@RobbieMaynardCreates Год назад

Good lord this is beautiful. You really inspire with your image making.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

I appreciate that, Robbie.

@thedondeluxe6941 Год назад

Great shots! The rendering on that lens looks amazing.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thank you!

@gregwardecke Год назад

Photo of the driver in the car wearing a helmet, Kyle! That is an amazing photograph! Nice work!

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thank you, Greg!

@ericdomazlicky6413 4 месяца назад

You may be able to get this setup far cheaper by buying a 80mm Xenotar 2.8 in Shutter made for Medium Format View Cameras (~$200) and then mount it on a cheap M65 helicoid with a Pentax 6x7 mount of some sort (short extension tube might work).

@CarneAsadaFries_ Год назад

Contacted Thomas and purchased one of these. Thanks for the recommendation...can't wait to use it.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Awesome! Enjoy.

@Iggy_Garcia 7 месяцев назад

It would be interesting a comparison between this lens and the Planar 80mm 2.8. Great content as always, Kyle. ✌

@dxps26 Год назад

I am loving the '35mm' perspective with the shallow DOF - something you'd need at least a f1.4 lens on 35mm format cameras, but even then the background separation and rendering won't be as nice - but the cherry on the cake is the aspect ratio of 6x7 which is just so much more natural and 'breathable' than the constricted 3:2 framing of 35mm lenses on 35mm format cameras.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

I agree. The 67 / 45 aspect ratio is one of my favourites. Takes some getting used to if you're used to shooting 35mm, but I enjoy it a lot more.

@lyfeofajet Год назад

You were one of the reasons why II decided to grab a Pentax 6x7. I haven't had a chance to use it but I'm already looking into buying new glass. I'm definitely intrigued by these custom adaptations.

@randallstewart175 Год назад

Given the relative pricing, I recommend that you get over your infatuation with "adaptions" before you start spending money. Here, he never said in the video or otherwise posted a link to whoever did this adaption for him. Take that as a message in the medium. He also did not describe any limitations to the adaption or confirm none. I suspect that the lens aperture for this one is now no longer automatic, meaning that you manually open to focus, then manually shut down to shoot. Finally, the acknowledged vignetting at wider apertures means that to shoot this lens for a normal looking image, you'll have to shut it down to 5.6 or smaller. This means the the Pentax 75mm 4.5 will still equal of exceed this performance, for about 1/7th the price. Overall, I''m not sure why this video got made. The thoughts coming to mind are "I took a $700 lens and spent $500 turning into garbage.", or "I screwed up big time, so I may as well get a YT video out of it."

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Cheers, Michael. Worth looking into one of these IMO. As mentioned in the video, one of the Rollei branded 80mm lenses is a more affordable option than this.

@colinosullivan Год назад

Very nice images

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thank you, Colin.

@allen_snapped Год назад

Mind blown.I gotta get one of those lenses.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

It's a fun one. :)

@melvyn_ivy Год назад

I owned an adapted Rolleiflex SL66 Planar 80mm doubled coated version and wanted to leave some useful information.Due to these cameras tilt function these lenses typically have a lot of coverage. The camera spicific mount and spacers are when removed just screwed onto a screwmount. The adapted lens i got from a polish ebay seller account name 'pk674' and he offers some crazy conversions for the system. Anyway it was basically a focusing helicoil screwed into the screwmount. I'm sure these can be found with the knowledge of the screwmount diameter without the cost of a rehousing or even shimming. Though I have not done it. This would potentially be the budget option. Also I might add that adaptation of the wider lenses from the Rollei system like 50 & 60mm I was told the back element would be too large and hit the mirror.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thanks for sharing your experience!

@LandonEdwards Год назад

images are amazing

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thank you. 🙏

@carraranick Год назад

Excellent, excellent, excellent.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Cheers, Nick.

@jasondam3137 Год назад

Awesome stuff Kyle! Curious who the modder was, would love to get a similar one built out. Thanks!

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Cheers, Jason. His name is Thomas Fang. I got in touch with him through FB on the Pentax 67 group.

@paraj5582 Год назад

medium format on a local car race this is very interesting

@KNURKonesur Год назад

You can also adapt the Norita Noritar 80/2.0 if you like more shallow depth of field. Or a lot of the Schneider Cinelux lenses or ISCO Cinelux or Kiptar/Super Kiptar lenses as long as they are 95mm or longer. And of course the legendary Kodak Aero Ektar or it's competitors like the Leitz Hektor.

@KNURKonesur Год назад

Or the Zeiss Contax 140/2.8 or the Zeiss Biometar 120/2.8 or Zeiss Sonnar 180/2.8

@BillionairesBoysClub Год назад

Should be mentioned, that the Noritar will only focus to about 1m and all ISCOs and Cineluxes under 110mm will either not reach infinity or heavily vignette / have smearing edges.

@KNURKonesur Год назад

@@BillionairesBoysClub yes! Also it's always a question of priorities. With all of those lenses being used mostly for portraits, I wouldn't mind sacrificing infinity focus to get a better minimum focus distance via using a shorter helicoid.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Ah yes, I've eyeballed the Noritar many times! It's definitely an intriguing option. I didn't know that people convert it to P67.

@RussellAlboroto Год назад

With heavy modifications, I’ve been able to mod the Cinelux 110 to focus to infinity.

@ShayneBirdd Год назад

Lovely video, Kyle! I was just recently looking for a new lens for my P67 and I was contemplating the 75mm f/4.5, due to 80mm being my favourite focal length for 6x7 work. However, the lens is way too slow for me. I'd love to look further into something like this, is the person you went to for the installation of the lens someone in the community I could contact? Or if not, is there a place to go online for installation of non-native glass? Thanks so much!

@BK-it8ht Год назад

There is also the super rare Xenotar 80mm f2 for 6x6. I haven't seen one for sale in a long time.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Ah yes. Been mentioned a couple times by people. That would be quite the conversion.

@chipgreenberg5080 Год назад

I shoot the Rollei 6008 system and the lenses are amazing. They have an (expensive!) 80mm f2.0 lens also. I replaced my 80 with the 90mm macro which is incredibly sharp

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

The 80mm 2.0 would be an interesting one!

@frontstandard1488 Год назад

I worked for a photographer back in late 90s who had the Rollei system. We used it for product and editorial still life. Lens technology at this point was ultra optimised for film and the lenses are quite spectacular. If only it was 6x7 or 6x8 however. Still it's very compact for a modular system camera.

@RobbieMaynardCreates Год назад

I read the title and clicked on this as fast as I could.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

😁🙌

@Nightwatch1986 Год назад

Nicely done kyle. Photos turned out great! Do you still have the 67ii? Im in between the 67 and 67ii. Not sure which one to go with

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thank you! Just the original 67 now. I sold the 67ii. I do miss the aperture priority mode, but other than that, the 67 would be my pick.

@ianlambert1316 7 месяцев назад

id recommenced looking for Rollei Schneider lenses for your gfx particularly the ones made for the 6008 i believe you can find an adapter for the gfx mount, the Schneider lenses for that system will cut you like a razor, and dare I say are even sharper than the Mamiya 7 lens lineup

@ianlambert1316 7 месяцев назад

also the camera that these lenses came attached to is no joke either

@MarcS4R Год назад

There is an F2 version of the Xenotar, quite rare and expensive, though. It is also possible to adapt the Noritar 80, they guy from Pimpmypentax is rocking that combo

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Ah yes, I came across the f2 version briefly when I was doing research. I'd imagine it's quite expensive.

@MarcS4R Год назад

@@KyleMcDougall it is , but i would love to give it a try. the Noritar 80 is also F2 6x6

@ModernVintageFilm Год назад

I do miss your Bronica.

@markgarcia8253 Год назад

Funny how you bought these lens (which is available on the Rolleiflex 2.8 C & D) for your Pentax. When I would just use a Pentax adapter and permanently mount this amazing lens on your GFX❤ Unlimited Rolleiflex photos on digital😂😊

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

May have to try it one day on the GFX. :)

@LetterBeacon Год назад

Great video! Do you have a link to where I can get a lens adapted?

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

His name is Thomas Fang. I got in touch with him through FB on the Pentax 67 group.

@firdyabadruzzaman7545 Год назад

Where u buy adapter lense..?

@TapWaterCo Год назад

Does the person who made it have a website or some way contact them? I've also been eyeing the pentax 75mm but can't justify the purchase either do I'd love to explore this option. Thanks for sharing, great video as always :)

@sunbeamlands7 Год назад

Want to know who converted it. I have a 6003 kit and wanted to investigate who could adapt my lenses.

@clarhettcoalfield3616 Год назад

I'm with him, I have a Carl Zeiss 80mm f2.8 Biometar I've love to convert to 67.... So who did the conversion for you Kyle?

@BillionairesBoysClub Год назад

@@clarhettcoalfield3616 Biometar might very likely not cover 6x7. The reason why the Rollei lenes cover 6x7 despite being 6x6 lenses is that they were designed for bellows movement originally and therefore had to cover more than 6x6. Just FYI.

@clarhettcoalfield3616 Год назад

@@BillionairesBoysClub thanks man, GTK

@user-dd1mk1qw8k Год назад

I second this, would be great if you can share the details of who made the conversion - thanks in advance, striking environmental portraits!

@escritoriodecristal Год назад

Does anyone know whats the closest focus distance?

@lastsaturday87 Год назад

Have you ever adapted the 105 2.4 to the 645 system?

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

I haven't, although Pentax made an adapter to do just that. It would be a bit too long for my liking on the 645 frame.

@davidgeorge1414 Год назад

any thought of adapting this lens to the GFX? I recently picked up a Rollei 6008 kit with the 50/80/150 and am considering getting a GFX so I can shoot with them all the time.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Maybe in the future I'll do this. Not sure how much I'd use it on the GFX as it would be a bit long.

@davidgeorge1414 Год назад

@@KyleMcDougall thanks for the reply.GFX gets here in a week so I'll see how it goes. Love the images from this series. Keep up the good work!

@yuanfrancois6640 Год назад

Are these all scanned with your GFX?

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Yep!

@YoYoYo Год назад

Hey, what is the status of the book?

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Going to print very soon! Hope to have an update for everyone in the near future. Pre-production has taken a little bit longer than expected.

@truncatei Год назад

I have a modified vm 10.5cm lens for 6x7, I think these lenses may be modified by a same person.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Thomas Fang was who did this conversion.

@cameronkrause4712 Год назад

the lens was optimized for a different system so naturally the focus markings will not be accurate.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Yes, but this lens was rehoused, so the markings should be correct as it's a new build.

@wangaries7334 Год назад

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@wangaries7334 Год назад

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@haimtoeg Год назад

Or, just get a Rolleiflex 6000 series camera and enjoy a number of Schneider and Zeiss lenses.

@michaelprzewrocki4195 Год назад

instead of images-we know schneider are top-show how adapter is made!

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

I didn't do the conversion.

@acesonmurray4660 Год назад

Its Mind numbing to me to realize how many people have no clue on what to do with what they own . WHY would anyone want a wide-fast lens on a 6x7 frame ???? Its painful to imagine a lens thats wide and shallow .. every image in this video after your crop could have been taken with the 150 2.8 with 100x better results . the 45mm f4 is incredible ... if you dont own it get it ASAP.

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

I explained exactly why I want a wide fast lens on 6x7. We all have different preferences. And yes, I've had the 45mm in the past. Too wide for my liking, but definitely a nice lens.

@roiloubia4483 Год назад

Agree with you. I really don't get his point.. I am not really impressed ar all by these pictures taken with this 80mm Xenotar lens..Anyway, his style of photography is not mine, so cannot criticize his choices, he has his preferences and we should respect that..he shoots for himself, like his pictures, and that's the most important thing..

@ShayneBirdd Год назад

@KyleMcDougall Год назад

Hey Shayne, the person who did this conversion is Thomas Fang. You can find him on the Pentax 6x7 FB group. That's where I got in contact with him and where we communicated throughout the process. I don't have an email for him, unfortunately. But search on there and you'll find him.