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Adapting Eddie's Amp Trick 

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On my trip to the Musikwinkel I discovered a wonderful fan organ, the Harmona. I immediately fell in love with it and had find one myself. But I had a twist in mind that would allow me play it in way that is more interesting to me: I would adapt Eddie Van Halen's technique for "brown sound".
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@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
It's good to have you back! Soundpacks, music and more: patreon.com/hainbach
@Arkansya
@Arkansya Год назад
you could totally use that kind of trick with the pedals used with sewing machines, they are pedals controlling the motor speed by controlling the voltage
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
Aaaah what a good point
@jakesmith9061
@jakesmith9061 Год назад
you should check out jen kutler. recently saw her debut of a piece called "chatter marks", which incorporated sewing machines that had been converted into monophonic mechanical synthesizers. extraordinary stuff.
@brianspenst1374
@brianspenst1374 Год назад
That is a good idea!
@moonboogien8908
@moonboogien8908 Год назад
You might have to hard wire the foot pedal directly to the organ fan driver.... It would work, but seems like an invasive mod. Great idea though.
@thereinthedeep
@thereinthedeep Год назад
​@moonboogie N8 if done properly it can be incredible
@bazedjunkiii_tv
@bazedjunkiii_tv Год назад
this, not unlike a slowed down accordeon, feels incredibly maritime and melancholic to me for a reason. lovely.
@EduardoRohdeEras
@EduardoRohdeEras Год назад
I got a cheap fan organ years ago, and a trick I used to do was to hold all the keys at once and then turn it on. It produced a creepy crescendo, like an choir of ghosts. Definitely worth a try!
@PocketOperatorGuy
@PocketOperatorGuy Год назад
A speed controller on a fan organ. I always thought of that when I was younger. Can't wait to see how it works out.
@keepmewierd
@keepmewierd Год назад
organ: slow jackhammer noises Hainbach: *enthusiastic thumbs up*
@JellyMonster1
@JellyMonster1 Год назад
That held chord at the end took me places.
@realgerrit
@realgerrit Год назад
True xD
@jplveiga
@jplveiga Год назад
To me it gave me future nostalgia, like the feeling of nostalgia for things I hope about my future lol crazy
@bricelory9534
@bricelory9534 Год назад
It's like opening an especially lush filter! Beautiful sounds ❤
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3 Год назад
I found a Farafasa fan organ from the 50s sitting in a flooded drive. After seeing it there for day after day I finally stopped and picked it up. It was so full of mud and dirt. I really didn’t think it would work and only wanted to sacrifice the Keys. Discovering that the only thing inside being a blower I decided to clean it up and try it. This thing sounds beautiful. It took me 2days to clean all the mud out of it. Surprisingly the water and mud didn’t cause any major damage and it looks so good just sitting below my MS20. I was wanting to put a pickup in it and use it with the 20s ESP. It’s channels like yours that inspires me to resonate at my fullest potential. Thanks for the great content.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
Thank you for sharing that! It is hearing stories like this that inspire me in return.
@EclipseAtDusk
@EclipseAtDusk Год назад
As a guitarist who’s heavily influenced by Eddie Van Halen, amongst many others, and done all sorts of stuff in search of their own take on that “Brown Sound” I am loving every little bit of this. Now go the extra mile - pick up a 5150, the Eddie Van Halen amp, and plug this into that!! That amp works some sort of midrange magic to anything you run into it, and I even use it for part of my bass guitar tones
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
I would have to re-amp it as the Harmona has no out. But it would be worth it indeed!
@budgetkeyboardist
@budgetkeyboardist Год назад
The Internet exists for videos like this. I really love this idea and the thought behind it. My first keyboard was a toy piano when I was 4, and my second was a fan-powered table top organ with about two octaves, but it wasn't cool like yours. Your Harmona is extremely cool-sounding and this is a really cool hack.
@kgbinfo
@kgbinfo Год назад
That’s a great solution for the lack of dynamics on a fan organ that I personally solved by ditching my fan organ for a much larger and older pump organ, but this is very cool and it does sound beautifully melancholic.
@alaspooryorick9946
@alaspooryorick9946 Год назад
Not with a variac, but when the motor broke in my Hammond organ and I needed it for a gig that night, I tore a DC motor and speed controller out of an electric golf bag cart thing I got from the rubbish. It didn't stay in tune very well, but the wild expressiveness was a lot of fun
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
That sounds very very cool
@alaspooryorick9946
@alaspooryorick9946 Год назад
It was! I've been meaning to get a variable frequency drive for the organ for ages so I can go wild, but stay in tune when I need to
@BackspinZX
@BackspinZX Год назад
Oh wow That's an absolutely beautiful sound
@JamesBos
@JamesBos Год назад
Sounds super similar to the harmonium used on Radiohead’s Motion Picture Soundtrack. Sounds gorgeous!
@kimmy_future4265
@kimmy_future4265 Год назад
That was so calming, thank you!
@jeanbonnefoy1377
@jeanbonnefoy1377 Год назад
Brings me back to my first compositions in 68-69 with a Magnus electric organ. As for the trick of blocking keys to play hands-free chords, we used folded Paris métro tickets - A tip shared both with Sergio Macédo (in our two head band BэM) and Tim Blake of Hawkwind and Crystal Machine fame: we all lived in the East of Paris at this happy times.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
Ah wonderful! Knives, beer coasters, subway tickets…if I ever curate an ambient exhibition these will get a special place
@graxjpg
@graxjpg Год назад
I have seen Tim use folded pieces of something in his keys from gong performances of the 70s, never would have guessed what it was. I have always done the same thing but with either coins or cables.
@Brendan-Black
@Brendan-Black Год назад
Excellent! I love your musical mind. You've so much creative thinking that inspires me to also find new ways to hear the world. Thank you, Hainbach.
@HisXLNC
@HisXLNC Год назад
That sounds amazing. The perfect ambient music machine.
@ChrisLodyMusic
@ChrisLodyMusic Год назад
Ooh damn I like that. I have a Selmer Companion 49 fan organ so I'll have to buy a regulator to breath some life into it. By which I mean, breath less life into it 🤔💨
@Gerkozielman
@Gerkozielman 4 месяца назад
Very nice fan organ! the man i bought one from had a foot pedal from an old sewing machine, for the trick you did. thanks for the video.
@TheFlippertube
@TheFlippertube Год назад
Variac's are great. Not only can they help with servicing caps, they make good dumbbells !
@vaaalsongs4867
@vaaalsongs4867 Год назад
That sounds so beautiful!
@MIKELiscrazy
@MIKELiscrazy Год назад
I love this! Coming from a guitar background I have used this technique with other things before but never would’ve thought to use it on something like this! It’s beautiful!
@PhillipRaymondGoodman
@PhillipRaymondGoodman Год назад
I love the creaking
@comms9803
@comms9803 Год назад
I actually have one of these. It has an amp plug-in and small internal microphone that picks up the sound of the reeds. I can then use pedal effects to warp the sound. It's pretty fun!
@DasDoktorchen
@DasDoktorchen 10 месяцев назад
Love this videos about synthesizers made in GDR 😀
@victorcarvalho8264
@victorcarvalho8264 Год назад
What a cool instument!!
@PocketOperatorGuy
@PocketOperatorGuy Год назад
Oh wow! That worked beautifully. The held notes droning in the background really opened up my soul. You have conquered the impossible and turned a plain old fan organ into a beautiful Synth. That third sound was really nice. It had a bit of a vibrato to it.
@SisterRose
@SisterRose Год назад
Hainbach: Hears a weird sound Hainbach's hand: Instinctive thumbs up
@Zepheriah
@Zepheriah Год назад
Oh cooool! Your last video about the electric harmonium* inspired me to try a similar idea, but in the mechanical realm instead of the electrical: I cut a big hole into a fan harmonium's wind chest, and covered it with an airtight flap. Gradually opening the flap kills the air pressure inside the instrument and filters the sound. I found that opening/closing the flap is much more responsive and expressive than adjusting the fan power, which takes a longer time to have an effect. I'm wanting to find a way to make this flap mechanism even more playable. Maybe a cable system, like a remote hi-hat pedal? Or a lever that you can play with your thumb while your fingers are on the keys. *specifically, that bit about notes fading out slowly when you flip the power switch.
@g-starthefirst
@g-starthefirst Год назад
You could make really accurate-sounding Minecraft music with this
@ChiefExecutiveOrbiter
@ChiefExecutiveOrbiter Год назад
Not Minecraft, Aphex Twin
@mastaboog749
@mastaboog749 Год назад
havent seen something like this in almost 30 years thank you! my grandfather had a weird organ collection and these organs tucked into cases was right in his alley.
@soulflower8687
@soulflower8687 Год назад
what a brilliant idea !
@RealGestumblindi
@RealGestumblindi Год назад
This might be the most melancholic instrument I've ever heard, even without the variac trick. Somehow, the atmosphere it creates also reminds me of the game "Disco Elysium". I think if you ever played that game (with music by British Sea Power) for a while, you know what I mean...
@gerarddip
@gerarddip Год назад
Reminds me of the slower sections of “islands” by King Crimson, like when Peter Sinfield is singing before the coronet solo
@computer_toucher
@computer_toucher Год назад
You have the PERFECT accent to go with that voice. So comfy, and Teutonic enough to inspire confidence in you, somehow? IDK it's just wonderful to listen to. Like that organ!
@temporoboto
@temporoboto Год назад
""good to have you back"love Sylvia Massy's video as well.💙
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
She is wonderful
@SisterRose
@SisterRose Год назад
Assigning the variac to a a foot pedal would really work.
@PlugInGuruVideo
@PlugInGuruVideo Год назад
Beautiful technique my friend! Love your explorations in sound! 👏
@imperialhorizons1797
@imperialhorizons1797 Год назад
Oh my word, that is a beautiful keyboard!
@ektopia
@ektopia Год назад
Best episode so far. So interesting.
@zsombor_99
@zsombor_99 Год назад
I never should've guessed a "variac" can be this useful for making such beautiful sounds with mains powered instruments! 😮 👍
@asapfilms2519
@asapfilms2519 Год назад
This is so cool…like an harmonium
@asapfilms2519
@asapfilms2519 Год назад
That voltage regulator should be put on a foot switch…like a wah pedal sort of a thing….
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 Год назад
sooooooooo cool... nicely done HAINBACH!
@Projacked1
@Projacked1 Год назад
wOOOW.....that sounds super-luscious!
@Oliver310583
@Oliver310583 Год назад
sehr geiler Sound 🥰. Danke!!
@marcofioravanti4176
@marcofioravanti4176 Год назад
Das is´ja mal großartig..! 👍
@jdcheetham
@jdcheetham Год назад
that low f# is chef's kiss
@DarkSideofSynth
@DarkSideofSynth Год назад
Eurorack enthusiasts: let me tell you about VC Hainbach: let's go full EVH and get a Variac!
@DJ_Cthulhu
@DJ_Cthulhu Год назад
That sounds beautiful 🖖
@casualintrovert207
@casualintrovert207 Год назад
you know at this point every new video you make just makes me want to see a plugin version of whats featured in the video because it all sounds so just perfect
@artuandelierree
@artuandelierree Год назад
Beautiful sounds 🤎 As a teenager I was a huge fan of Van Halen sound but never heard of this "brown sound" story. Really interesting !
@smokegreeen4556
@smokegreeen4556 Год назад
Breathtaking sound!
@neonblack211
@neonblack211 Год назад
I want one!!
@alistairfarrant9155
@alistairfarrant9155 Год назад
Wow. Stunning
@davidk8893
@davidk8893 Год назад
Depending on what type of motor that organ uses, this trick may or may not be a bit risky. A lot of small motors used in devices like that are synchronous induction motors, their speed is primarily controlled by the frequency of the AC source. When you first start the motor, they produce very little torque and only become efficient once they reach optimal speed. By only decreasing the voltage and not the frequency, you are forcing the motor to operate in its inefficient region, which will cause the motor to have very little torque and generate more heat. It can also cause the speed to be unstable and potentially cause the motor to stall, which can overheat the motor and permanently damage it. The Variac isn't really an ideal induction motor speed control for that reason. A VFD (Variable Frequency Drive) would be a more appropriate method to alter motor speed. While it appears to work okay with this device, keep in mind that there is a chance of damage if you continue to use it that way, and other devices might not tolerate the reduced voltage as well.
@jakobhalskov
@jakobhalskov Год назад
Such an awesome sci-fi-nils-frahm vibe emanating 🙏🏻
@rot_studios
@rot_studios Год назад
It almost sounds like a pipe organ, didn't know these had such potential!
@gazersmusic
@gazersmusic Год назад
I was pretty surprised by the mention of Zwota and Klingenthal. It's a 10 minute drive from where I'm at, in Markneukirchen. They're all towns deep in the Musikwinkel of the Vogtland in Saxony. Really strange seeing this stuff from my direct area on your channel!
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
I was even closer to you ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9ISzdCG9BmU.html
@gazersmusic
@gazersmusic Год назад
@@Hainbach Wow, somehow that video totally went past me. Gotta love the algorithm. Awesome stuff! In may there will be the Musiktage, perhaps that's something that could be interesting to you.
@craigmitchell8892
@craigmitchell8892 Год назад
I loved seeing you stick the bits of card in the keys haha, I do this with my old indian harmonium because its drone doesnt work haha
@Povilaz
@Povilaz Год назад
Oh wow, that sounds awesome!
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu Год назад
It's weird how Hainbach has better audio quality outside than most people have in quiet rooms.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
Thanks! The is the new "voice focus" in the Davinci. I had to dial it down because it felt like I was talking directly in your ear in cupboard.
@andreasbreuer6464
@andreasbreuer6464 Год назад
Thats my hood. Hainbach was here and I’ve missed it
@Ellende
@Ellende Год назад
The whole “In through the outdoor” album from Led Zeppelin gives the impression that it was made with Brown Sounds.
@Paul.Jame.s
@Paul.Jame.s Год назад
Awesome, awesome sounds! Thank you so much for sharing :)
@Paul.Jame.s
@Paul.Jame.s Год назад
Also, I sent an email to about this too, let me know if it didn’t turn up :)
@FLH3official
@FLH3official Год назад
Excellent. As always
@PeranMe
@PeranMe Год назад
Fantastic! Thanks!
@markschroeder5559
@markschroeder5559 Год назад
I always thought it was ween that had developed the brown sound.🤔 Very nice.
@samsanimationcorner3820
@samsanimationcorner3820 Год назад
There's a dark 80s vibe to this, for sure.
@MoraFermi
@MoraFermi Год назад
Probably the biggest voltage controlled oscillator around!
@mattmorgan2400
@mattmorgan2400 Год назад
Beautiful! Love your vids.
@joshuahelmeke
@joshuahelmeke Год назад
And now you’ve got an ADSR for your fan organ.
@TjSBMD1810
@TjSBMD1810 Год назад
Guter Stoff für's Ohr.
@wetryanycheesedotcom
@wetryanycheesedotcom Год назад
Oh wow, it's so sombre yet full of so much texture and interest! I could see this being suited really well to make soundtracks for slow artistic films... What a cool find :D
@CRLFNKL
@CRLFNKL Год назад
This reminds me of my beautiful acoustic reed organ. Can only but recomend one if you hae the space. They have a beautiful character to them
@robriki2
@robriki2 Год назад
I am an accordionist and use the « in between » register all the time. It’s possible to get note bends and all kind of weird harmonics from the reed when the air pressure is stronger.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
It’s wonderful what air will do - extended techniques are beautiful
@Scodiddly
@Scodiddly Год назад
Wow, what a great idea! I was so enthused by it that I tried plugging my laptop power supply into a Variac, and now my beats sound much warmer and browner! Only problem is that the laptop battery seems to run out, even though the power supply is plugged in! Weird. ;)
@holdmesampleme
@holdmesampleme Год назад
You are amazing!
@boxieblue8133
@boxieblue8133 Год назад
mega mega nice 🙂
@sparkyprojects
@sparkyprojects Год назад
Not all 'electronics' take kindly to reducing the voltage, their circuits will just stop working below a threshold voltage, and may even pass more current which could destroy it btw, if you got a variable frequency drive (vfd), you would be able to control the speed of the fan without reducing the voltage, some vfd's will go higher than 50/60hz
@alanc6752
@alanc6752 Год назад
00:21 This is the start of a weird movie! ..."Grandfather used be musician, worked in the theater, collected instruments" this sounds like Hainbach. The younger current Hainbach is actually buying from himself, the previous Hainbach from his last life but doesn't know it. Flashbacks happen as he gets reacquainted with this old fan organ. More coincidences as Hainbach slowly comes to realise he has been a musician through the ages. Some kind of Moon, Highlander, Angel Heart movie but totally different. It needs some work.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
Yeah The paralells Are uncanny
@jamesha175
@jamesha175 Год назад
yes EVH used some kind of variac to lower the voltage powering his marshall amps. the inevitable result was that after some time one of the transformers would burn out.
@basmatine
@basmatine Год назад
Hainbach, maybe you could have someone help you build the voltage regulator into a pedal, with the voltage dialed in to the sweet spot. Kinda like an expression pedal.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Год назад
I asked my tech already right after filming. Would be amazing to have hands free without beer coasters or papers
@GL-iy7mj
@GL-iy7mj Год назад
Wow! That organ would be perfect for some apocalyptic shit
@bazem
@bazem Год назад
2:45 remembers me of Out of This World (game) soundtrack
@lootwijk
@lootwijk Год назад
7:30 ooooh 😄
@Symplegades
@Symplegades Год назад
Oh man, about 15 years ago we inherited an old Farfisa Pianorgan from my wifes family. I am so gonna have to try this on that...
@TisMeJohnDee
@TisMeJohnDee Год назад
Certainly brings out the character of the instrument.
@fritsvanzanten3573
@fritsvanzanten3573 Год назад
I always though/read it as 'Very-yack' (like in Pontiac, maniac, insomniac, cardiac, aphrodisiac), and only now I see the AC at the end may have a meaning of its own.
@daneguitarist1
@daneguitarist1 Год назад
yeah thats super cool, well done homie
@daneguitarist1
@daneguitarist1 Год назад
that 5:30 swell tho. damnnnnn son. Gorgeous!
@jfracine_composition
@jfracine_composition Год назад
smooth !
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ Год назад
I use a Variac on my soviet TOM 1501 to get the proper 220VAC to power it, but does very interesting things when run at much lower voltages.
@blackcatwithahat4088
@blackcatwithahat4088 Год назад
❤ genial
@simoncrabb
@simoncrabb Год назад
I recently picked up an Italian fan organ locally for next to nothing. As soon as I heard it I thought I need to work on a controller for the fan, maybe a replacement (or additional) DC fan which I can more easily control, perhaps CV controlled.
@inthefade
@inthefade Год назад
I wonder if controlling the air coming out of the fan would be easier by blocking/diverting the airflow.
@lloydmunga4961
@lloydmunga4961 Год назад
Some pretty somber timbres
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum Год назад
My reed organ does this if I leave the heating on in the winter and dry it out a little too much. It comes right again in the summer months.
@TylersTrying
@TylersTrying Год назад
I wonder if there's a way to automate the voltage amp with an LFO or something to change the voltage smoothly.
@keyhoarder
@keyhoarder Год назад
I've had harmona 85 in the past, they are quite common here in Poland, the legacy of the communist era, because they were produced in Weltmeister factory in east Germany. According (haha) to my experience with fan organ, this one is good craft compared to the many cheap and awful sounding plastic chord organs. My harmona had even a factory fitted fan controller (potentiometer on the front) but the range was much smaller. It changed mainly the volume, and slightly the attack.
@dimitri4004
@dimitri4004 Год назад
This sounds perfect for old school dungeon synth and it's not even a synth
@vadimmartynyuk
@vadimmartynyuk Год назад
Gonna get myself harmonium now, cuz it sounds very similar to accordion
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