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Adding Legs (134) 

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Everything needs legs and that goes double, triple, or even quadruple for modules. In this video I show you how to add legs to the module we've been building, including how to install adjustable leveling feet so you can set up without any wobble on uneven floors. So let's get started.
Here is a link to the feet I used but I suggest you take the time to search for adjustable leveling feet and look over the selection. You may decide that for your situation nylon, or felt, or metal feet will be better than the vinyl ones I used.
Amazon, adjustable leveling feet
www.amazon.com/OwnMy-Adjustab...

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@MrJohnB-qs6dp
@MrJohnB-qs6dp 2 года назад
This sure beats buying metal legs and less expensive. Stay Safe & God Bless!!
@douglasallen511
@douglasallen511 3 года назад
The scene @5:08 when you were drilling into the end of the leg was kind of scary, bare hand holding the leg and drilling toward that hand, yeah I was nervous just watching you.
@glennirwin4710
@glennirwin4710 7 месяцев назад
Very nice setup.
@willlee6321
@willlee6321 3 года назад
I agree with some of the other comments: placing the carriage bolts through the long sides of the modules makes them unable to be removed without disassembling the leg cross braces. Putting the carriage bolts through the short ends of the modules and using a carriage bolt to attach the 45-degree brace to your 2x2 spacer would allow the legs to be removed by simply unscrewing the three carriage bolts.
@andrewlaverghetta715
@andrewlaverghetta715 4 месяца назад
These are helpful and helped me decide to make my HO switching layout this way. It had always seemed incredibly hard to mate up two modules but this is helping, especially with the baseboard dowels. You can also find vendors in the states for those, as DCC Concepts suggested to me, though they can ship internationally of course. What I'm wondering about is how I can make these legs come off. I've thinking about adding the corner brace like what he's got here, but then adding a second piece of wood the same style, adding a 1x3 to the connect both of them, to leave a slot just big enough for legs. We'll see how that goes. I need something that I can set up and take down easily.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 4 месяца назад
You can try to do as you suggest but it is hard not to end up with a wobbly fit. Maybe best to go with bolts and wing nuts for quick on/off. Take a look at the Rockler website, they have some pretty neat hardware.
@kennedygauger4680
@kennedygauger4680 3 года назад
Hi, this is a very helpful series. Over the years I have avoided T-nuts and gone to using threaded inserts (as often used in cabinet making) into the wood. They bind into the wood more reliably and hold the levelers well. If needed, some wood or Gorilla glue can be added when inserting them into the module leg. I have used them for many projects the require repeated assembly and disassembly. Thanks for your thorough explanations. Sincerely, Kennedy
@joelnickerson6739
@joelnickerson6739 3 года назад
Thank you for doing these videos. I plan on making a large DCC layout and you've given me a lot of help and ideas. Thanks again
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
Have fun designing it and building it.
@littlewingpsc27
@littlewingpsc27 3 года назад
The wing nut idea for portable operations is a good idea. Why would you use carriage bolts to secure the legs to the module if you use wood screws to secure the leg bracing? You now need two different methods to remove the legs. If you plan to use wood screws for the leg brace, you might as well use wood screws to attach the leg to the module, but do it from the short side so you can get at them easier. If you like using carriage bolts, then I would screw the spacing block for the leg brace from the outside of the module to get maximum grip into the 2x2 spacing block, then use another bolt to hold the leg brace to the spacing block. That way if you want to remove the leg, you undue 3 wing nuts, slide the leg and brace in one direction, and it is removed. No power drill needed.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
Good suggestions. As you suggest were I to want to move these modules around I would use bolts on the braces too. In my case that is not the case but I like to use the bolts on the legs for greater strength there. Also, in my videos I try to present different approaches for various scenarios. In this case that means portable layouts vs stationary. Bolts a great for portable but screws work great for stationary.
@graham76man
@graham76man Год назад
If you wanted you could cut the side cross supports so the fitted between the legs. Drill dowel holes in the leg and end of the support and fit them together. The other leg support I would also do level with the side of the leg - screw it on with two recessed screws. Then rather than take it to a piece of new timber, take it to the baseboard cross support beam you already have fixed in place. At least that's how a chair legs are done. It simply looks neater. Either way works of course.
@paulc1964
@paulc1964 3 года назад
Enjoy This series look forward to next weeks edition on the track plans
@Trainguy05
@Trainguy05 3 года назад
Great series, here's a easy helper hint; a crush washer under the wing nut will stop the nut from loosening when moving around or just general vibration.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
I think this is what we call a lock washer, used to lock the nut in place once compressed. I wouldn’t use one here since it is likely to dig onto the wood and chew it up as it is being compressed. I have only seen them used on metal substrates and not wood.
@j.mcq.8418
@j.mcq.8418 3 года назад
@@TheDCCGuy you can go regular washer, lock washer, nut.
@steveprice9462
@steveprice9462 3 года назад
Great videos Larry. Thanks. Very easy to follow. I'm using your suggestions on a new 8x4ft layout in 3 modules. One thing I did differently was to inset the frame by one inch on the sides that wont be butted together, this creates a slight lip/overhang that makes lifting easier and I hope it won't impede access to the facia too much. Otherwise identical. I am very pleased. Cheers.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
Glad to hear it is helpful to you and you have found your own improvements.
@wilzdart
@wilzdart 3 года назад
I have a question: on the stabilizing supports you put screws in them. would it not be better to use bolts and take leg off with the supports intact ? Like the build very nice job.
@geraldjones2278
@geraldjones2278 3 года назад
If I might make a suggestion. When I am trying to put "feet" on something like a 2X2. I use a magic marker or something similar to mark an "X" on the end, The center of the "X" is where I need to drill my hole to get the hole accurately centered.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
Getting perfect centering when drilling on the ends without clamping them in a vise or using a drill press can be a problem because of the grain of the wood. In my example I started pretty close to dead center but that was also right on the growth ring and the bit followed it down into the wood and ran off a bit. In hindsight putting a smaller pilot hole in first might have helped the wood bit stay centered but maybe not.
@geraldjones2278
@geraldjones2278 3 года назад
@@TheDCCGuy Agree but using the "X" technique at least helps you locate the center. Then use a pilot hole.
@bfredsys11
@bfredsys11 5 месяцев назад
Larry, another awesome video. Do you have a book or something with the plans of this table?
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 5 месяцев назад
No, the video series is it.
@lgrfbs
@lgrfbs 3 года назад
Thanks for a nice video. Are the modules you showing built to any standard?
@samuel_towle
@samuel_towle 3 года назад
Why have the extra expense of carriage bolts with wing nuts if you'll need to remove the wood screws from your braces anyway. If you want quick take-down, I would use a "T" nut between the baseboard and the 2x2 shim with a regular bolt on the brace as well. You might also have a problem with the carriage bolts loosening behind your fascia in the future. Liquid nails under the bolt head might prevent that. Also, when the fascia is attached, you won't be able to remove the carriage bolts and your horizontal bracing keeps the legs at baseboard width, you will need to flex the legs to remove them from the bolts. If you bolt the legs from the ends instead of the sides, you will be able to remove them easier.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
I responded to a couple of other comments on this subject back when this was first posted so take a look back at those comments.
@mariner3485
@mariner3485 3 года назад
Interesting series. I am nearing completion of a mid-sized modular layout with six 2'x4' modules and two end modules (forming a large 'walk-around' layout with a central backdrop, that fills a garage bay) and there are similarities to what you are doing: I'm using T-nuts, leg leveling feet, etc... But I used carpenter's glue on all my screwed joints and epoxy to add strength to my T-nuts. I'm not sure what the value of wing-nuts are on the legs when all those stabilizer braces are screwed in? Either way, I'm enjoying the videos.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
One could use bolts and wing nuts on the braces too, but it is cheaper to just use screws. If I were going to drag these around to shows I definitely would go that route.
@357Xlongrunner
@357Xlongrunner 3 года назад
Hey Larry, if it's not too much trouble would you post the Amazon link for the black tip leveling feet? Thanks!!
@uptownphotography
@uptownphotography 3 года назад
Hi Larry, I had a question about your duck-under in the doorway. Is that remove-able and if yes, how do you mount and hold it in place? I have at least one area crossing a doorway in which I will need something easy (and quick) to remove, but will keep accurate alignment. I saw one video using strong round magnets and looking for other ideas before I built the lift out section.Thanks. Philip from NJ
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
I wrote about that in my book “Wiring Projects for Your Model Railroad” and got the basic idea from Lance Mindheim. I built a wooden cradle to serve as the base at each end and put leveling and centering screws in them. Today I would use the Rail Aligners to make sure the rails lined up perfectly and may go back and retrofit. However in my install I put Atlas rerails on the bridge and end of the layout. Finally, I put slide bolts on the bottom since I invariably bang into it on about a monthly basis even with yellow/black barricade tape on it, and the slide bolt latches keep it in place.
@uptownphotography
@uptownphotography 3 года назад
@@TheDCCGuy Thanks for the reply. I am pretty much following you Larry except how you used the leveling and centering screws and what type screws these would be. Philip
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
This is hard to describe, photos in the book do the job better. However, the centering screws are simple flat heads set into T-nuts on the sides of the cradles just like with those on the module legs. The leveling bolts are just like those on the legs too. So I can adjust left to right as well as up and down.
@uptownphotography
@uptownphotography 3 года назад
@@TheDCCGuy OK Thanks. I am familiar with T-nuts so I can somewhat visualize what you're alluding to now. Thanks for the response.
@johnwinstanley9538
@johnwinstanley9538 3 года назад
Why would you bolt the legs and the use the screws for the diagonal braces? You should make the leg assembly as one removable unit from the top.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
See my answer to the earlier comment with the same question.
@abdullahabu1252
@abdullahabu1252 3 года назад
DDC Guy. The electric system for the layout for DC Different from DCC Wiring.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
Yes, it is different. Watch videos 110-114 for more on wiring for DCC.
@abdullahabu1252
@abdullahabu1252 3 года назад
Thanks DCC GUY. How I can find the videos list. Thanks
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
Go to my channel page.
@markdeschane4467
@markdeschane4467 3 года назад
Larry, Why only 4 feet of length for your Module?
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
There ate 2 modules making it 8’ long and there will be fiddle yards of some type at each end, so eventually it might total 15-16’ long.
@crazymanbbqcompany1592
@crazymanbbqcompany1592 3 года назад
How about portable legs install ???
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
If you want legs that can be removed fir transport then just use the carriage bolts and wing nuts on the legs and braces and pop them off quickly. That is what a lot of modular guys do. There also are hinges available for making folding table legs that I have seen used. Look in various woodcrafter catalogs for them. Some are heavy duty like those used on school cafeteria tables.
@crazymanbbqcompany1592
@crazymanbbqcompany1592 3 года назад
@@TheDCCGuy I'm looking for the unit to use, don't tell me what I already know...
@yuvalmei-dan9950
@yuvalmei-dan9950 3 года назад
Larry, Great Explanations about the BaseBoard construction. Thanks. Goes from the very basics.... What is your private e-mail for direct contact?
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
dccguy@dccguy.com
@peterg1723
@peterg1723 4 месяца назад
4:40 Jeez, talk about unsafe working. Put the timber in a vice when drilling like that.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the tip, will you now buy me a vise to do it with?
@ninianyule2113
@ninianyule2113 3 года назад
Larry, a helpful video, but if you don't end up with a hole in your hand or a finger cut off I will be very surprised...I can see how you're trying to show actions for the video, but if you keep drilling a hole with your hand covering the exit, or holding a piece of wood by the end with one hand while drilling with the other, then an accident will happen. Not a very good example to set to younger viewers especially. Sorry!
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy 3 года назад
I put my hand or finger over where I expect the bit to emerge on purpose since I can easily feel when it gets close to breaking through. Since I use a variable speed drill I can slow things down when it gets close and feel the wood starting to part and move my finger before I get jabbed. There are a lot of habits you pick up over the years that are just second nature now that seem to make some folks shake their heads.
@onkyonky4740
@onkyonky4740 3 года назад
While I like your videos I am reasonable with tools, I am a tradesperson. I think you have to cater for the person with the lowest skill level. Really your first few seconds/minute should be a health and safety overview. You should cover what can go wrong and why you are doing something the way you are. This does not have to take over the video but should prompt the person watching to at least consider their safety. Heaven forbid your video causes someone to injure them selves and unable to enjoy the hobby you are trying to share with them.
@littlewingpsc27
@littlewingpsc27 3 года назад
If the potential hobbyist needs that level of safety instruction at the beginning of the video, then this hobby is way too............. dangerous for them to even consider. He hasn't even gotten to Xacto knifes, box cutters, or heaven forbid rail nippers yet. Not trying to down play your comment, but some level of risk is assumed with just waking up every day, let alone doing anything worthwhile.
@andydunn5673
@andydunn5673 3 года назад
@@littlewingpsc27 I completely agree
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