I love it when the keyboard warriors come and argue "this wouldnt work in real life" or "this is too slow, the other guy is way too compliant or not reacting at all" - show they have not realised the intent of this video :D nice job demonstrating these techniques, i recognise some of them from my own training @ MSK
This is a demonstration of techniques from our syllabus, not sparring. We are not going full force, full speed, manipulating distance and time, resisting, or fighting in any way. It is just an interpretive demonstration for explanation and memory. We train quite differently, with full-speed and non-compliance, in protective equipment.
Wow, how has this video eluded me until now? Sure, it's not fancy, but the plays are presented solidly and clearly--a perfect video to demonstrate the elegant, competent reality of German Longsword to non-HEMA folk :)
I agree. This video, despite the low budget presentation, serves as an excellent concise series of clips demonstrating the various techniques to be found in the German Longsword tradition. I've been searching for a video such as this for some time!
OnionSoda Ah, I see. Well, we could certainly use more HEMA inspiration in medieval fantasy settings. *glares unapprovingly at combat portrayed in GOT* Anyway, don't be afraid to get more in-depth though! Some of the best works of fantasy/fiction, in my opinion, come from authors who are quite knowledgeable about real world cultures and history, like J.R.R. Tolkien, for instance.
These actions are built upon basic techniques and the fundamentals of timing and distance learned in the first and second levels. What is shown in this video is now the majority of our advanced level.
Truly fantastic work folks. With the level of detail you include in your demo, I can cleanly see lines of engagement, etc. I smiled when I saw the "false thrust" technique at 2:18, it's very similar to the disengage-feint techniques we used in collegiate fencing. Keep up the good work.
You know, it might not be as "practical" as later swords, but there is something about a two handed long sword that I just find to be a whole lot of fun.
In old movies, fights with large blades tend to be a plodding sort of clang... clang... clang... clang... Only fights with smaller, lighter blades are quick, intricate, and tricky. But that's because the guys making old movies didn't know about this stuff. I'd love to see a modern movie use this knew knowledge to give us some great fight scenes.
You see sir, even with a lot of well known fencing techniques like those from Japan or China (in the film industry), todays people tend to go stiupid and flashy way instead of actual realistic sword fights. However if I will ever have a chance to film something in medieval style I will surely look up a lot of actual techniques :-) Best wishes!
hey lads, ive been looking around to replace my broken bastard sword with another wooden sword, a proper true longsword for practice, because i dont want to waste budget on a synthetic one while im saving up for a steel one. anyways, where did you buy the ones you use in the video?
It's even worse with unarmed martial arts: lots of twirling about and such. But the real stuff can have lots of cool, eye-catching moves, and I'm learning watching these vids. So yeah, I hope you get the chance to film something medieval, cool, and authentic. Because I want to see that.
one thing is ARMA members (at least the few I've met and others corroborate this) see their way as the only way. Anyone who does anything different is wrong and not worth their time.
I think, but i'm not sure, that Luis Preto has started some longswordtraining on top of Jogo do Pau. I don't know if he teaches longsword but I think that if anyone, he may know if there is any other that do train or want to start training in Portugal. Check out the channel "timetravellerdj" here on youtube. On wooden longswords, I have only experience of purpleheart armoury. They are OK but don't really behave or feels like steel blades. But that is not really expected from wooden swords imo.
Forget my previous comment. A certain Italian master cleared up the Wechselhut/Nebenhut issue. ;) I am interested about the Additional Masters and shadow fencing techniques. What are they called?
Great video love the music, I was curious do you guys know about this feud with ARMA? I just been looking into europeon martial arts recently after reading article by john clements guy and I found it interesting dived into research of it and I then saw all this crazy feuding going on with John Clements and ARMA , whats the deal lol! . Seems like something out of a hollywood movie with people challenging each other to duels to prove their prowess!
Im not exactly your opinion. They are of course showing a lot of techniques but i hate how slow they are performing them even with wooden waisters. Yeah i know the video is just to show it and its easier to track the movement in this speed but it makes longsword fencing look some kind of powerless. A better impression of the german longsword gives anton kohutuvič. Look up his channel
+hm... To be honest, as much as I love the intention and power behind anton's techniques, they're a bit sloppy at times. As a martial artist, I like when people go slower, but without losing intention. If you practice movements well slowly, speed comes naturally, and, in fact, you become faster than if you are always "rushing" the techniques in practice, because you learn how to do them smoothly and eliminate any wasted motion. In the world of tactical shooting, where fractions of a second count, they have a saying; "Fast is slow. Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast"
Facepalm... На таком уровне нужно учить не приёмы из фехтбухов, а заниматься физподготовкой и нарабатывать простейшие удары. Если конечно они собираются потом это применять.
Historian quarrels. Happens all the time in history quolloquium. If someone is to launch a controversial interpretation or use outdated terms (like "Low-Empire" when talking about roman later empire) it will make people angry. :P Some of my university history teachers told me about it :P
+Alejandro Sánchez Hdz. The gladiators (as in using the gladius swords) actually didn't have much martial arts to them. They were used for thrusting and trusting alone, and were much less glorious weapons than longswords.
I have also been intrigued by roman martial arts, though we don't really have much to go on - only the weapons and that they fought in formation, so probably very tight and linear movements
Umm, the Gladius can cut as well although it is made mainly for thrusting and the Gladiators didn't just use them they also used Thracian style sica swords, trident's spears, hammers or mallets, axes and the heavier gladiators used the Roman Scutum and sword. Myrmillo: Wore a fish-like helmet and had an oblong shield and a sword. Retiaritus: Fought with a net, brandishing either a trident or a dagger. Secutos: Had a shield, sword, heavy helmet, and armour on one arm. Sagitarius: fought with a bow and arrow Thrax: Armed with a curved sword and a small shield.
Correct about the gladius. It is actually very good at cutting especially for its size, but when in formation cutting is much more dangerous to those around you.
Сожалею, но тут нет ударов, блоков и приёмов, есть только декоративная их имитация. Во всяком случае на этом конкретном видео. Очень медленно, вяло, мечи в руках еле держатся. На кадре с обезоруживанием видно, что противник даже не пытается сопротивляться. Приёмы может и действующие, но не в таком исполнении.
I just got to say this, cause alot of weapon art gets this a lot: ITS NOT REALISTIC. The only possible way to train any weapon based art is throuh repitition of the technique and practicing drills. Because no matter what you do, you CAN NOT simulate a real stress situation. You cannot artificially create a life and death situation where adrenaline is pumping and on the verge of panic. Ofcourse, you can add aggression and intent in training, but, again, no matter how hard you try, one cannot simulate real stress. That is whyy we train in drills. So the technique becomes reaction, reaction becomes instinct.
Это понятно. Но как то очень уж вяло даже для демонстрации. Проскальзывает ощущение небрежности исполнения, что очень сильно всё портит. Спарринги у вас же выглядят явно лучше.
Grand Master Yoda What makes you think that? Can you explain your reasoning? This is a simple technique demo that shows how a certain technique is supposed to be practical. Historically when presented in a certain situation these are supposed to save your life.
Grand Master Yoda These when actually used in a fight would be way faster, this is slow so people watching can actually tell what's going on so it can educate people learning the martial art
This is a demonstration of techniques from our syllabus, not sparring. We are not going full force, full speed, manipulating distance and time, resisting, or fighting in any way. It is just an interpretive demonstration for explanation and memory. We train quite differently, with full-speed and non-compliance, in protective equipment.
