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Joachim Meyer - Kunst des Fechtens 

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Training mal anders, wie es hätte sein können zu Meyers Zeiten - in zeitgenössischer Kleidung, ohne die gewohnte moderne Schutzausrüstung.
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Training in a different manner, the way it could have been at the time of Meyer - in historical clothing, without the modern protection gear we got used to.

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@JahnosSardonis
@JahnosSardonis 4 года назад
The song choice is hilarious. They are literally saying "Why do you kill me? Why are you treating me so poorly?"
@thepunishersequence291
@thepunishersequence291 4 года назад
Why is this funny?
@titusjuventiuscelsus9758
@titusjuventiuscelsus9758 4 года назад
HA
@santiagoz.s.1024
@santiagoz.s.1024 3 года назад
@@thepunishersequence291 Cuz its a really "solemm" song about a guy saying literally "Hey, why are you so mean to me?"
@stanlim9182
@stanlim9182 3 года назад
Plot twist: the longsword was the one that’s complaining
@omari2306
@omari2306 2 года назад
You forgot "I siendo tu, tan mal me tratas, mi matadora." It's a romantic song from the renaiscance meaning, that cheating should not be a thing in a Spanish relationship.
@taylorahern3755
@taylorahern3755 2 года назад
So this is exactly how a Fencing match would be conducted in late 1400s-early 1500s Germany (southern Germany to be specific)?? Amazing!! And what a fantastic demonstration. Just superb! You have such swordplay down to a sweet & fancy science. And the period clothing & costumes that you chose to wear really honored & beautifully highlighted the rough time period that such fancy & outstanding swordplay came out of & represented (1450-1550!). Great Job!! That was a real joy to watch! Keep up the excellent work👍👍👍
@JTWilliams74
@JTWilliams74 9 лет назад
I would be interested in hearing the female fencer's thoughts on fighting in a dress and what difficulties it presented.
@amelieeilken611
@amelieeilken611 8 лет назад
+Jake Williams Von Starcher That actually turned out to be less problematic than I expected. The movement in the upper body is barely restricted at all and as long as I kept the low stance and sticked to big, single steps, the lower dress didn't bother me too much, either. But the dress did cause problems when it came to double side steps or multiple smaller steps.
@JTWilliams74
@JTWilliams74 8 лет назад
Interesting, thank you for the response by the way. Dresses aren't your typical everyday HEMA wear but I do see the importance of fencing in historical clothing if we want to understand it better.
@amelieeilken611
@amelieeilken611 8 лет назад
+Thunderchrist Ministries International I was actually inspired by a painting of Emilie of Saxony, but you are none the less very close (so close that I am genuinely impressed) - it is a drawing of Cranach and the dress itself is very similar to the dresses in the paintings of Judiths.
@kaizen5023
@kaizen5023 8 лет назад
+Amelie Eilken, well done lady, you are my new crush
@SurmaSampo
@SurmaSampo 8 лет назад
I know plenty and when the dress is designed for it there is an advantage to be had in obfuscating the exact location of the legs and feet.
@JosephBHZ
@JosephBHZ 7 лет назад
The singers asking why their women treat them so badly and calling them killers (matadora) went pretty well with the girl showing great skill
@kaizen5023
@kaizen5023 8 лет назад
Best longsword video I have seen online. Clearly you are fencers who understand the flow, distance, timing, and also the "true place" as Gentleman George Silver would say. Greetings from a Meyer student at Salle St. George in Seattle, Washington USA.
@callusklaus2413
@callusklaus2413 5 лет назад
The heck, I have never heard of your group, I'm with Grit City in Tacoma, I fence with Lonin all the time, is your group still together?
@BubblewrapHighway
@BubblewrapHighway 3 года назад
I lived in Seattle and Tacoma for a year each and never heard of either group.
@user-cb2hw8nb6u
@user-cb2hw8nb6u Год назад
It's also have in Japanese ...(reasnable action stil) イタリア語になってたらスマソ
@caseydubois3645
@caseydubois3645 3 года назад
I've got to say, while I'm more of a Fiore guy myself, I can really see the art behind, and the effectiveness of, the Meyer system. I really should get around to studying it. Maybe once I wrap up my Fiore studies.
@ArxenZaonox
@ArxenZaonox 8 лет назад
Wow, this video is extremely helpful. I am currently studying this style in attempts to teach myself using guides and books as well as well done videos such as this. Currently I have only practiced movement, stances, and defensive blocks. I was just recently taking a closer look into how to correctly parry and attacks, but my comprehension fell short. This video illustrated many techniques I have read about and attempted to visualize. Some didn't quite make sense to me. However, after seeing this video, I have had certain maneuvers suddenly click and I have had answers to some of my questions about positioning answered. I plan to refer back to this video when I begin my offensive training. Great job!
8 лет назад
+Arxen Zaonox Thank you very much! We will start to produce new Vids like this in Summer. Also many new technique Videos will follow. Stay tuned and thx again for your Kind words :)
@christopheresquire947
@christopheresquire947 7 лет назад
may i ask where you acquired those majestic pants, dear Sirs? Edward
@sethlifelong4250
@sethlifelong4250 3 года назад
Bjon You should be an actor! You people are great! All of you. I feel like you all would have made great soldiers.
@noahpayne5065
@noahpayne5065 4 года назад
I notice something I find interesting in this video, as opposed to others I've seen on historical fencing. The combatants don't seem to change the position of their hands on the hilt of the sword; if the left hand grips the pommel, it stays on the pommel. Other videos, likely inspired by different fetbutche, show maneuvres where the combatant changes their grip quite often. I find this interesting because for the man in armor, with a hand protected solid lames of steel, the unmoving position of the hands would probably easier. Very fascinating video!
@georgefreesamurai
@georgefreesamurai 25 дней назад
Schön die Grundlagen gefilmt und untermalt.
@WeissM89
@WeissM89 7 лет назад
WTF. I'm Spanish and I almost didn't realise the song is in Spanish. It says something I would translate as "Say, moor bitch, say, killer(?), why you kill me. Being yours, you treat me so badly". I'm speechless.
@DenysNerysPlay
@DenysNerysPlay 7 лет назад
For me almost the same translation, I speak Portuguese!
@stormgeddon
@stormgeddon 6 лет назад
WeissM89 a mi tambien me ha costado
@eluves
@eluves 5 лет назад
Me so speechless too, Madrid typing here lol
@longyuanchuan
@longyuanchuan 5 лет назад
Jjajajajaja justo lo que estaba pensando xD
@El-Silver
@El-Silver 5 лет назад
really yo lo note inmediatamente aunque por 1 segundo crei que era portuges
@earlkzb
@earlkzb 5 лет назад
Your channel is gold. A great support to the reading of Meyer!
@JosephBHZ
@JosephBHZ 7 лет назад
The singers asking why their women treat the so badly and calling them killers (matadora) went pretty well with the girl showing great skill
@Shindai
@Shindai 7 лет назад
Very cool, great music, love the costumes.
@juanpablogonzalez8528
@juanpablogonzalez8528 8 лет назад
Excellent video, this have been invaluable for me, thanks
@Ghastly_Grinner
@Ghastly_Grinner 4 года назад
I really enjoy seeing the point being used to thrust often I only see edge stories being utilized in longsword videos
@Priestbokmei1
@Priestbokmei1 3 года назад
You guys have really good control! Great video! 😀
@Judicial78
@Judicial78 5 лет назад
3:39 I am assuming that attack does double damage and rolls two dice?
@wacky.racoon
@wacky.racoon 4 года назад
I can't stop flinching when watching videos without protection gear !
@user-rh1io
@user-rh1io 6 лет назад
This is AWESOME! if you speed up the video to x1.5 their swordplay is 10 times better than movie sword fight I've ever seen!
@stephena1196
@stephena1196 4 года назад
That is true without speeding up the film.
@marceloferrari4242
@marceloferrari4242 5 лет назад
Técnica muito bem demonstrada,ótima instrução
@DonRomualdo
@DonRomualdo 9 лет назад
Very nice. I liked the flow.
@jaderayven
@jaderayven 6 лет назад
Very fun. Hope to see more like this.
@Warszyc
@Warszyc 4 года назад
thank you for the motivation
@NICEFINENEWROBOT
@NICEFINENEWROBOT 3 года назад
This is fine art. Don't know why filmmakers mostly ignore that.
@horrorhouse16
@horrorhouse16 7 лет назад
i think this is your best video!! make another one like this !!!
7 лет назад
We want to... :)
@horrorhouse16
@horrorhouse16 7 лет назад
Nice!! im exited to see it!! :)
@vladimirmazurin2521
@vladimirmazurin2521 4 года назад
Excellent!!! And girl with sword is amazing!)
@Jonathan_agurto_9Bernal
@Jonathan_agurto_9Bernal 3 года назад
bellísimo,poético, señorial y heróico,felicitaciones!!
@thecasuallongsword
@thecasuallongsword 7 лет назад
Awesome video!
@kiotonizaki9831
@kiotonizaki9831 4 года назад
Ótimo vide-o... bom para treino gostei ganhou um inscrito.
@GamerMax
@GamerMax 2 года назад
You made it look good. Like the music.
@TheGodTell
@TheGodTell 5 лет назад
beautiful!!
@Gloin79
@Gloin79 7 лет назад
This is 100% wrong the pants need to be WAY puffier
7 лет назад
yep it cant be puffy enough :D
@Redsuit11
@Redsuit11 6 лет назад
1000% more puff needed clearly
@edi9892
@edi9892 5 лет назад
I don´t think they got the form, they deserve, but they are very loose and could be quite comfortable, depending on the fabric. That´s something to think about in summer...
@markusjack9208
@markusjack9208 3 года назад
skill is secondary due to the puffiness of our panties!!!
@DavidNefelimSlayer
@DavidNefelimSlayer 3 года назад
Beautiful
@Vitadoc01
@Vitadoc01 9 лет назад
Sehr schön!
@lichterwald
@lichterwald 8 лет назад
Sehr schönes Video!
@Warszyc
@Warszyc 4 года назад
beautifull soundtrack super tatcher
@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician
@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician Год назад
Perfection!
@Shiresgammai
@Shiresgammai Год назад
Very well done! Did some movie studios hire you as fight choreographers in Germany? I ask because I believe that you would do a splendid job!
@horrorhouse16
@horrorhouse16 7 лет назад
whats the name of the music on the beginning and on the end of the video?
@honeybear278
@honeybear278 7 лет назад
Toll gemacht!
@titanscerw
@titanscerw 9 лет назад
pure awesome
@jgriesm
@jgriesm 5 лет назад
Totally my style of fencing. Going to be buying a feder in a month.
@thedukeofskull1383
@thedukeofskull1383 3 года назад
VERY INTERESTING ! 👍
@thibaultghesquiere
@thibaultghesquiere 9 лет назад
Brillant!
@100RAmen
@100RAmen 8 лет назад
bravo! brothers!
@JRT176
@JRT176 7 лет назад
May I ask what camera you use to film these? I love your work and I'm looking to film some Mair interpretations ;)
@veritasetcaritas
@veritasetcaritas 4 месяца назад
This is still one of my favorite videos on your channel.
4 месяца назад
thx mate :)
@kombatunit66
@kombatunit66 7 лет назад
Love this vid. KdF!
@kenanacampora
@kenanacampora Год назад
Dear sons of Vikings...great job.
@IAmACrab2020
@IAmACrab2020 7 лет назад
Can I ask where you bought the clothing for the men?
@IAmACrab2020
@IAmACrab2020 7 лет назад
thanks man though that website is hard to navigate rip though any idea if they ship to the US?
@madbaum
@madbaum 9 лет назад
Sehr cool!
@Kumofan
@Kumofan 6 лет назад
Dost thou not end thine opponent rightly?
@Joe-ci3te
@Joe-ci3te 4 года назад
In the future is there any chance for some videos with German renissance music in the background? Maybe something at least semi-local to Meyer's region. Anyhow, beautiful work and good job.
4 года назад
We will work on a second video like this in the future. I keep that in mind :)!
@victorlui5955
@victorlui5955 Год назад
🖤
@ciro43
@ciro43 4 года назад
Muy bueno.
@eduardocorte7142
@eduardocorte7142 5 лет назад
Where did You get the shoes?
@robinmarks4771
@robinmarks4771 4 года назад
Which federschwerts are being used? The ornate crossguards look amazing.
4 года назад
Pavel Moc 16. Century Federschwert
@earlkzb
@earlkzb 4 года назад
Which music did you used for the intro and credits?
@earlkzb
@earlkzb 4 года назад
Found it, it's a part of La Negrina from Mateo Flecha: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g_zrLRJs5Pg.html
@GhostCell47
@GhostCell47 6 лет назад
Impressive.
@rgarcia7392
@rgarcia7392 9 лет назад
That was cool.
@Adamcadabra91
@Adamcadabra91 5 лет назад
I need to see this in like super slow motion, I can't register the moves because im unfamiliar with the technique. Even if I saw the steps in slow motion, how do you know what moves to use and remember everything in the fast paced heat of battle? This stuff absolutely take skill!
@danielsmith5664
@danielsmith5664 5 лет назад
in the german tradition we call it Fuhlen. Translates to Feeling. Basically it's sensitivity training, and your muscles develop a sense for varying pressure and you can just respond based on that.
@anthonyrobinson7715
@anthonyrobinson7715 8 лет назад
Lovely
@Borissh89
@Borissh89 3 года назад
This video made me realize my hat game is weak.
@Hitesh.
@Hitesh. Месяц назад
Self-rooooast.
@HadrianDan
@HadrianDan Месяц назад
Best part 2 minutes in continuous fight without either side wins with retreat and stance changes and duel kept going before a decisive conclusion. Like a tennis match where both sides play for a long time is finer game
@kyletoelle
@kyletoelle 7 лет назад
Where did you get the pants?
@paulmurphy216
@paulmurphy216 2 года назад
Try watching it again at 1.5 speed. Not as instructive but really cool. The music sounds a bit off though ;)
@thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168
@thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168 8 лет назад
Where did you get those swords?
8 лет назад
+Alex Hutchins Pavel Moc from www.swords.cz/
@dorad100
@dorad100 9 лет назад
I don't like the Meyer style of fencing, but this looks beautiful!
@robertfogelberg7538
@robertfogelberg7538 4 года назад
Si well done
@kalvinchester4068
@kalvinchester4068 5 лет назад
Where did you get the costumes?
@flavioaecioalvati4095
@flavioaecioalvati4095 4 года назад
Nice see a women fencing 👍💪
@Gaius453
@Gaius453 Год назад
2:00 is this the intro?
@kurtdolezal1915
@kurtdolezal1915 6 лет назад
von wem ist denn die Musik bitte?
@MelvinDukowski
@MelvinDukowski 7 лет назад
What's the music?
@kurtdolezal1915
@kurtdolezal1915 6 лет назад
do you know this musik? the name of this song?
@kurtdolezal1915
@kurtdolezal1915 6 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hrJleyQwqV0.html
@larsf92
@larsf92 8 лет назад
where did you get the pants from?
8 лет назад
+fockmen They were tailor-made from www.historical-costumes.eu/
@tomekjan79
@tomekjan79 4 года назад
it's unbecoming of knight and a gentleman to attack a dame like that !!!
@witcher_helms5144
@witcher_helms5144 3 года назад
Hey Hollywood...this is how Nobles should be fighting in your movies!!! Not swinging their swords like baseball bats!
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan Год назад
hatte die lady in ihrem viktorianischem autfit eine zeitmaschine? da liegen doch mindestens 300-400 jahre dazwischen :)
Год назад
Das passt eigentlich ganz gut zusammen. Männer und Frauen tragen hier typische Kleidung der frühen renaissance des späten 16. Jahrhunderts :)
@luzdekandil
@luzdekandil 5 лет назад
Hahaha que buena música
@user-dg4tl4bw6v
@user-dg4tl4bw6v 6 лет назад
Why he hold sword ring hilt inside?
@user-dg4tl4bw6v
@user-dg4tl4bw6v 6 лет назад
I was wrong.
@DoctorTooploop
@DoctorTooploop 4 года назад
the woman is breaking my immersion
@annoyed707
@annoyed707 4 года назад
But Yoda, Ewoks, and The Force don't?
@societyofhistoricalfencing7836
KdF for life!!!!!
@UniversoNOLIFE
@UniversoNOLIFE 4 года назад
name of the first song please ( woman singer)
4 года назад
SAN SABEYA GUGURUMBÉ (La Negrina) - Mateo Flecha "el Viejo"
@bruisedhelmet8819
@bruisedhelmet8819 3 года назад
I think this confusing love triangle could be resolved over a long drink and a short talk.
@omari2306
@omari2306 2 года назад
Mi matadooora porque me matas porque me matas, tan mal me tratas tan mal me tratas, i love the 16th century boy.
@derarty4290
@derarty4290 5 лет назад
Wo bekommt man solch Schwerter her?
@mrmoustachio3069
@mrmoustachio3069 3 года назад
Oooooh, so this is where the intro came from/
@moonshinetheleocat1235
@moonshinetheleocat1235 4 года назад
I fear anyone who can sword fight in a damn dress.
@Hellion73
@Hellion73 5 лет назад
Awesome, but read somewhere that in those times, in a sword to sword fight, you must avoid almost all blade to blade contact, because first you should aim for the flesh and vital points of your oponent, and second to prevent over damage to your weapon, which were very expensive back then 🤔
5 лет назад
Hi Oskar! That must be an awful source. That is just nonsense :) Blades in Europe are made for bind and parry. Also your first intent is your self-protection.
@Hellion73
@Hellion73 5 лет назад
@ Björn Rüther Hi. And yes, you're right, i didn't meant to say all the blade to blade contact, but the "Hollywood" clinking metal to metal contact, for the reasons i mention and they explained. Even if we know there are mayor differences beetween asían and euro sword combat, that source extended the explanation to samurais, and their swords, saying that those weapons, been sharped lethal and all, were not made to bind and parri, but to cut, and even thrust with the apropiated tech, but never in the way movies despict them, because the metal was more fragile than the europeans, thats why samurais trained to be fast and to end a fight quickly. So, the people who wrote all that, tried to apply the same principles, in some extend, to euro "duellists" on their explanation.
@danielsmith5664
@danielsmith5664 5 лет назад
@@Hellion73 When it comes to japanese sword styles, part of the reason they focuses so heavily on cuts and not bind work was because the swords themselves, while beautiful, were of fairly low quality. If you hard block something with a katana it'd just warp or even break. Whereas a longsword is designed to take much more impact. katanas were a personal protection weapon designed to show status and defend a samurai in civilian settings/times of peace. Longswords were battlefield weapons that dealt with people in full plate armour and needed to be sturdy.
@Hellion73
@Hellion73 5 лет назад
@@danielsmith5664Yeah, thank you for the rep, and answear to my doubts about the matter. Ohhh i been infatuated with all about sword fighting since my chilhood, wish i could be near peple like you to train, practice and have access to first hand knoledge, but i have to conform just with books and videos like yours to figure things up 👍
@danielsmith5664
@danielsmith5664 5 лет назад
@@Hellion73 Try to find a friend who wants to practice with you. Sometimes just having people with a willingness to learn and a bit of time with manuscripts/books can go a long way. You could also try to find a LARP group near you (totally not the best way I know), but it might give you a safe place to try techniques.
@eugenekyte6783
@eugenekyte6783 4 года назад
Кто эта девушка? Мое почтение!
@neptun8450
@neptun8450 4 года назад
Wie lange habt ihr gebraucht, bis ihr auf diesem Niveau wart?
4 года назад
Nicht sehr lange. Nur ein paar Jahre wöchentliches training hatten wir damals bisher gehabt. Wir wollen irgendwann mal ein remake dazu machen denn vieles gefällt uns heutzutage nicht mehr :)
@jamesonahill
@jamesonahill 6 лет назад
Man, im so bad at sparring. I can never defend right. I'm very bad at predicting moves
@danielsmith5664
@danielsmith5664 5 лет назад
One thing that has helped me, is just understanding that there is only a set number of movements that can be done in response to your action. If they do something that is not one of those set moves they die, or double with you.
@Velkan1396
@Velkan1396 5 лет назад
Heyyyy, spanish music :D
@can9546
@can9546 5 лет назад
For honor looks better in 2k18
@can9546
@can9546 5 лет назад
Camolaik zalog uspeha
@AA-wd2or
@AA-wd2or 2 года назад
Ottomans have total different tehinques and weapons
@gibbinifugg
@gibbinifugg Год назад
SwordAreScary!
@derarty4290
@derarty4290 5 лет назад
1:46 decent
@KilianLoyn4089
@KilianLoyn4089 6 месяцев назад
Меч похож на Клеймор.
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