Addressing the betrayal drama one last time... [call of dragons] 

I genuinely dislike drama. Seals (now MILF) betrayal has led to a huge amount of petty airing of dirty laundry that I find really gross and exhausting. There's obviously a lot more that can be said about what happened in this season, but don't let anyone distract you from the simple reality: someone called seals a name in belleron chat, and they threw the season and jeopardized hundreds of innocent players for their own selfish endeavors. It's really that simple.

Chis in our kingdom in RoK we have a rule where we are not allowed to talk in Lost Kingdom chat. One of our mottos is show respect through actions - not words. This strategy has worked really well for us.

Before watching the video, just want to say that Congratulations for 100 millon power 🎉

I love your take on things chis! Absolutely hilarious how you show how absurd SEALS were being with their demands 😂 Seems to me that seals leadership is completely incompetent, not only with the betrayal but with the double resurgence nonsense… Hopefully seals leadership are completely isolated from future seasons 🙏

Hey Chis, I’m playing on the same server as you, and we had a massive betrayal too. We tried to work things out with them and we kept being lied too. It was horrible! We were one of your allies too, I don’t know where we stand now, but hopefully the rest of the season plays out fairly…. Ancs was a huge participant in the betrayal agains us too.

I am sure there is another side to the story and things Chisgule isnt aware of or didnt include. However, letting an enemy into a starting zone is super grimy. I love the video as content. Hopefully next season Chisgule and Blood family get a chance to play through the whole thing without betrayals. I wanted to pick this game up but seeing how you need to be on the winning side to avoid betrayals Id rather just stick to RoK where a betrayal would ruin your reputation until end of time.

Perche and Skuro of SEALS team actively betrayed in S1. Not surprising they acted the same way in S2.

Chis all in all is a good guy he gets hate because he’s successful keep going chis

Wild bro. I just got to 1M power for the first time. There's a dude in my server who was 20M+ in the first day so I'm gonna switch again but I certainly don't look forward to new drama. Appreciate all the knowledge

Well i think you guys learned at least maybe out of this. That if a ally that has promised being "the elite squad 🤣🤣🤣" and ends up being more a blockade, than should have had a back-up plan in case they where planning to betray (i think it was all planned). Great video

In one of my first go arounds with the game, i experienced something similar on a much smaller earlier game noobier scale. An alliance we worked with closely, considered part of the family, allowed an enemy in and promoted him to officer. The officer kicked every single member from the clan, and since that clan had territory bordering ours, the enemy, which was much stronger than us, joined into their clan to attack us. The leader ended up completely turning on us after getting insided. Not sure why he thought insiders were his friends but yeah. Good times.

The first person that gets into my mind when i hear cuck is chisgule

Left out the fact that MasterRich concocted all of these schemes of betrayal. The man is hell spawn. Dude is devil incarnate. Dealer of 32 drama.

An R4 and members of my alliance were name-calling me and booted me from the alliance during a warzone. They then told our enemy my location and tried to rally me. I don't know why people would be so mean to another who has the same goals as them and I'm trying to go somewhere better. I think animosity and negative players make it hard to lead, so I'm trying to make my server a better place.

Our big alliance allowed one of the smaller ones to farm all season and split rewards equally and when it came war time they did absolutely nothing to help us and have basically let us lose the rest of the season because the enemies have 15 more t5s than us and they're sitting in z1 and z2 playing farmville

Im sad we missed all fighting of the season man. I dont have an acc in your server but id love to watch some of the zone fights. I hope there will be more in the next season :) Great video nontheless. Hope you all stay motivated even tho they did you dirty

Hi Chisgule. I wanted to ask if you're playing any other server besides your main, like restarting in a new server?

i wont say which side i am in but you’re a great guy. keep up with the great contents! ❤️

Some people need to look for an excuse, regardless on how dumb it is to do what their ambition leads them to. It happened with 277. At least they did not care and just replied: “ Big fish eat smaller fish”. No diplomacy and took it all in S1 out of nowhere.

this is the greatest betrayal of all time

This drama is worthy of an epic novel. Tragic to the innocent account but this is some good content 😅😅

alliances like seal quality should have been just absorbed and nurtured no need to let them have their own things to prevent this

you guys are nicer then me if someone wanted to make a small mercenary team in my server and needed behemoths to move forward and they cannot even finish their own alliance tech they would have been out of luck. Cant cater to everyone if you wanna win and compete.

gosh i have to give you a thumbs up for the Dr X reference lol

Hello chisgule have you played Era Of Conquest? I hope you play it need some tips on that game.

Why are seals upset that blood said we wouldn’t have worked with them if there were better options available? Seals literally betrayed and flipped sides last season which means they are not 100% trustworthy. Now in this season they do the same thing and betray and flip to the winning side. Who would choose an alliance like they to ally with if there are better options available? Nobody that’s who. You can be butt hurt about it all you want but that’s the truth.

The continued down playing of the entire season's (not just this instance) grievances that Seals had is itself proof. In each and every video. Diminishing the Seals contributions, dehumanizing them. Lies caught out that this dude now has to back track on too. From what has been said in other videos from Meow, Nasti and Sin of war, there's clearly way more behind the decision to betray than just name calling or a thunder roc fight. Also, ANCS(in BAM) attacked the Seals while they were purifying the Thunder Roc, Seals had started the raid while BAM was still building towards it. There was no way BAM could take the Roc with an unfinished flag. Yet another lie from Blood. Remember in the video Chisgule said Seals took the bahemoth before BAM 9:33 . They did and they were attacked during that first purification process the moment BAM flag completed. I personally don't see this betrayal and people who empathise with the Seals as victim shaming. There are really valid reasons for the Seals to feel this slighted. Even members who've been with the Seals that Chisgule "sent" over (in reality it's the overflow of people they didn't really want and continually asked them back later when spots opened). These players when they've spent time with Seals, realise how dedicated the leadership team was to getting every advantage possible for Blood's side. To then be betrayed by Blood and dismissed, and told we never wanted you anyway. That's wrong. Chigule admitted to it too, they did not want us, they only wanted to deny Dragon towards the end of this video. What this is, feels like an employee within a big corporation filing numerous workplace bullying complaints to HR about their colleague, but the colleague never gets penalties and continues to be enabled. HR downplays every complaint and Gaslights the employee "you've got a stable job at this big company and for your sake you don't wanna lose this or cause trouble because it won't look good for you, just be an adult and suck it up ok". Employee then reaches a tipping point, and says no more, i'm done and i'm out. Puts in a 1 day notice period to resign and leaves in the middle of peak season and everyone in the team suffers. Edit: also, while Chisgule talks about having seals move to the other side to "win", there are 2 points here that is hypocritical. 1) Chisgule in the same video also says that Dragon has over 3 billion power in pure t5 power advantage. So that itself is telling who would win but yet somehow it's because the Seals didn't go to Kraozon. 2) It was the Seals who at the VERY BEGINNING of the season advocated against ANCS resurging to Enogad. Vehemently even. However, as the map shows ANCS was told to resurge from Kraozon originally under the suggestion from Chisgule himself(after convincing the strategy team). 2.1) Chisgule was not around for the final meeting with his strategy team that timing would be too close for Seal to move over to the other region due to their 48 hour delayed Elite Necro capture. Again not the Seal fault.

Yea, i had to stop playing this game after stressing as a leader to try and smooth everything over with alliance after alliance. The thing thats a little wierd is when started to play, the immaturity of players stood out (in comparison to games like ROK) but i guessed it was only my server. Making strong relationships between alliances especially in this game is harder than it should be. Most alliances just wait and buy there time until they finally get the chance and just betray at what always seems like the worst time. Right now betrayal is undoubtedly a "META" per say. I simply could not handle having to constantly deal with that and some players who cannot follow simple rules. (No zeroing makes it so rouge players mainly whales live without fear as well and will always be accepted into different alliance later because of there strength). Anyways when people get more mature in the game and hopefully the developers find the time to change some things up so as you said betrayal is less impact full, i might make a return. Either way great video chisgule, in the right or wrong (never judge without hearing all sides) drama is always interesting to listen to. Cheers and don't get too pressed💪

Chisgule please a make a leadership guide if possible I need it

Good summary

You see this, then see the state of geopolitical scenario in the world and… you suddenly get it. We’re all idiots.

To comment in a way that leaves out further drama.... 7:51 Where you address the Thunder Roc being forgotten about on SEALS part was due to the timing nature of SEALS Staying in BDO to help you capture Elite Necro, if that was planned properly like LuhGinus suggested days before, SEALS could have shell swapped back in time to grab the ROC instead of focusing on holding BD's zone 3. Granted after zone 4 began, I can say for sure the Roc was forgotten merely due to the full speed ahead dedication of SEALS to get to the choke as planned...before SEALS had to delete flags cause of some mess ups by BAM!. 14:19 Now to adress the "name calling," I think its extremely relevant to understand and mention that this "name calling" isn't what caused this. The entire season SEALS and ANCS had a sour relationship due to their first interaction. Both sides being a little bit petty about who merges into who, it is what it is. The "name calling" just so happened to be the final straw after being made out to be the scapegoat BD (maybe not all leadership felt this way, but MANY BD players did,) needed to blame another loss on. 16:17 Where you address *where did their members come from,* BD gave SEALS members that ranked low on their very own spreadsheet regarding performance per zone. That ALONE says what those players are, deadweight. WHICH IS WHY THE BD HALF OF SEALS LEFT!!! Lets not beat around the bush and act like BD gave SEALS active players, some were active in a small capacity, but not active enough when you consider what was required to keep pace. 18:32 You address attack plans to fight zone 4. The suggested plan to move to INWA/LoPC shell was in hindsight probably a better plan than was went with, but lets be completely honest here, NK and DS reached the critical choke first. This is in part due to the flag messup by BAM! AND SEALS. Then lets definitely not forget the awful call made by both Striker AND Chisgule to full focus a flag to the bottom right of that ramp even AFTER being asked in open voice chat by a SEALS member why that was their objective instead of pushing the ramp like SEALS was. Multiple times SEALS were asked to push up that ramp and clear it for BD, multiple times SEALS cleared it despite being less than HALF of BD family's combined size. Dragon Family had AMAZING showing for the final zone, not to diminish that. 19:43 You address how the SEALS felt the season was over after 5 days at the choke unable to make any progress. SEALS for sure is called the war over after a few days at that chole with 0 progress being made. A realistic call, maybe a doomsday one, but a realistic call nonetheless. 21:06 You again address the lending of players to "help" SEALS, again I will reiterate, SEALS were given a VERY large majority of the dead weight and underperforming players from the BD family. I have the spreadsheet used by BD which HAS the raw data on it for members performances. It is literally how BD family operates, Highest performers are put into BDO, then BDM (BAM!). Not to knock the system they use, I know the data team puts a ton of effort in to collect the information and sort from there. It's just how their system operates. 22:48 To address the double resurge, there were maybe 4 or 5 players after that had returned to BD because they didnt quite like the "small alliance feel" where the battling was uphill most of the time. 28:06 Addressing the concerns of invading the zone 1. I can say from personal involvement that the intent was NOT to invade the zone 1, but some r4 already invited nk players and ds before it was realized and it was already too late to deescalte. Some of the decision makers in SEALS were not even present at the time of it all going down either. But as we all know, sometimes the intent can get lost when emotions fly high. 28:50 You say you only worked with SEALS cause if you didn't, the season was lost. While true, SEALS were always made to feel like BD backed us cause of prior history, they WANTED to have SEALS as genuine allies. But as has been shared in the past Duhz was always going to bat for the SEALS against the r4's and leadership team in BD due to his friendship with the BD side of SEALS members. Numerous times has Duhz told SEALS how many in BD complained and argued about SEALS being "allowed" to leave or make their own group. Eventually, BD came around and finally decided to work with SEALS, begrudgingly, or so it felt like. 33:06 You bring up victim shaming. Chisgule, with all due respect, this is a video game that most people play for a couple hours a day and don't think anything else of it. I personally that's a case of just taking it too seriously man. Especially with the comparison to an ACTUAL case of some of the most heinous cases of victim blaming dude. A betrayal in a video game literally should NEVER be compared to something like sexual assault. While the video, was a drama video and usually that's entertaining. This was no proper coverage of it when compared to the Dragon family video you made with PROOF in it.

I just wanted to say Duhz is a noob.

When will you doing live war in call of dragon chisgule.. We want watch big war On ice dragon zone.

Why isn’t 1960 taking the zig ?

Its time to migrate out

So there are really people who read what is written in World chat ?? Most of the comments are only dumb or provocative . i never read what is written there !!

with so many betrayals , I do home Chisgule isn't married

Dont understand the term "stealing players" its the players choice to leave. They clearly werent happy where they were. now if youre spam messaging recruitment messages to an ally yeah thats poaching which shouldnt be something an ally does but other than that a player deciding to join another team isnt "stealing a player"

Punishment is needed for this game seriously it was happening in our season 2 as well bullying and harassment why are they being rewarded by leaving

Stream More Pleaseeee

Don’t come to 268 , krakens killing each other drama and all betrayal

Why don't you defeat them? Are they are more powerful then your own alliance?

Their being the problematic yet they find ways to become the bigger problem

I am so invested in this xD

The leader of seals jumped sides in season 1 also . Now again haha ,

Imagine a bunch of grown men spending money on a game being led by a kid 😅😅

Betrayal in a game? Veteran RoK players: It's all part of the game.

Does phoo and MP still play

Sounds like all the pre madonnnas (and kids) moved from Rok to COD.... lol...

My rock 🗿🤘

lol. This Patato Farmer is an arrogant guy. He's completely toxic and keeps attacking players and insulting them. He did that a lot in S1 and S1+. He's a disrespectful guy.

You can always call out my name. Or Duhz, cuz he's a super noob.

ngl i just came here because they’re my former alliance and i want tea lmao

you really should just stop playing cod and write it off as a failed experiment tbh. the whole thing is a giant mess that just isnt worth your time.

Disgusting they zeroed everyone against them in there alliance who wanted to come back

29:00 😂😂

This game is every single season mostly call of betrayals 😅

BD and Betrayal the sequel

and i apologize .......to absolutely noone x'DDDD

Are we going to see Gorgo tests at reset?

@9min that already SHOW you their REAL intentions lol. They purposely didn’t take it

People act tough in games but in real life they r chickens I just laugh 😂I want 2 see a live fish in action 😂😂

lesssgooo chiss

Dont worry weve been betrayed last two seasons 😂

Politics ruin this game for me.

Totally fair. TOTALLY. It's a frigging war game. Anything is fair, both the good and the bad. Which s u c k s but it is what it is. Why should ANYONE in a war game play fair? Unrealistic to expect it. Unrealistic to expect a whale to leave everyone alone in the early game. Unrealistic to expect agreements to be kept. Just look at Hamas/Israel, and that's even in real life. And in a game? Yes, people are gunna act like children. Some will act like Charles Manson. Some will act like... Chisgule. 😏

Im glad they did it!

Not the drama...

Snowflakes bro..

I love the victim of betrayal come crying about name calling. LOL We simply hate you, so what ? don't like it ? It's not our problem. We just want you guys out.

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FIRST??!!

lol not even 24h

Chis no one cares about call of dragons