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Pan Saltz Caballeratos Military Archery
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Hello, my name is Pan Saltz Caballeratos. As the new trailer of the upcoming movie "Prey" (Predator 5) came out, many people from the archery community reacted to the archery depicted in there. My friend Miko_Archer convinced me to address the matter and give our contribution about the Native American archery styles. He already uploaded his video in his channel and you can watch it by clicking on the link below :
• Predator prey, хищник ...
In this video, I am making a traditional bow and arrows, as I was taught by my father that was confirmed later in life by other people as well. By recreating such a bow and studying the traditional ways of shooting, I am able to recreate the lost art of fast and accurate archery by the Indigenous nations all across the Turtle Island continent (America). The king of fast archery Lars Andersen made a video about the Comanche archery. People misunderstood and thought that ONLY the Comanche nation was capable of these skills, when in fact, this art was well spread among all tribes. In the video I am briefly explaining some factors on why only the Comanche are credited with such skill. They were the last frontier, they had enough time to know what these invaders wanted from them and they got access to horses. The tank, the super weapon of the era. They were ready, they were prepared and they were determined to defend themselves in ways that other tribes didn't have the chance. Only them being credited with such skills is a misconception and the art should simply be known as "Native American short bow archery". You can watch Lars' video by clicking on the link below :
• Lars Andersen: Recreat...
Warning, this is just ONE of the styles and bows used by the tribes. I do not claim that my way is the only way nor do I say that this bow was the only type of bow made. But what I am saying is that THIS bow was the most common and well spread. It's way of being used and created reveals the mentality of the unified Amerindian civilization. You make extra steps to keep trees alive, so you take as little as possible from them. You get to create a bow that can shoot anything, even nockless arrows made on the spot by random sticks. Even if not the best wood is available, you still get to make a functional bow, as the technique used to shoot won't break it. As many tribes entered into alliances with European factions, they started being treated as primitive so their traditional weapons were replaced with firearms and metal. Such archery skills takes a lot of practice and if they are abandoned even for a little bit, distance is made and the art gets forgotten. The great warriors who held these skills wouldn't survive to teach their arts to the new generations. The mentality of a warrior is indomitable so it's only natural that those people held their ground to the bitter end. And their stories survive as legends about how good they were. What I am actually doing in this video is that I recreate these skills to prove them real. I am definitely not the BEST but my contribution is good enough to prove some points. There are many videos out there analyzing this historical archery and they did a lot of hard work to make them. So it's better if you watch their videos and get well informed about the subject. The following link shows Join Willie Pekah explain this traditional art :
• Native Cultural Arts: ...
A very professional, educated and talented archer gives more historical records in his videos . His channel is called "ryddragyn". Click on the links below to watch and learn :
• Plenty Coups' Archery ...
• Plains Indian Bow - Dr...
What the new trailer shows keeps getting proven by everyone as completely impractical and not accurate to the slightest. With such a big budget they could do the slightest research and promote something real, something authentic. Instead of "de powah of de wahman wins it all". I think they got confused by the Ishi shooting style. But again, the Ishi style in practice and theory looks nothing alike. These following videos shed light on this style and are very informative. Click on the links to watch them :
rydraggyn (channel)
• What would Ishi have t...
Primitive Pathways (channel)
• How to Shoot a Bow Ish...
The only difference with what these talented archers showed in their videos compared to what I do is that I manage to use NOCKLESS arrows. So my conclusion is that this new movie lost a great opportunity to promote real skills and real history. But of course, I guess it's just a movie. Still, they give US the opportunity to make videos like this. So, cheers and enjoy.
Video editing, recording, music, narration, performance : - Pan Saltz Caballerato (Panagiotis Saltzis Kavalieratos).
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Everything seen in this video was either created by me or falls under Fair Use or I was allowed to show their clips by the creators themselves.

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@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Notes : This is the last video I am trying to use an "international accent" to be understood easily by as many ears as possible in the world. I pretty much forgot how to really do it XD . Talking like my normal self helps me make videos faster, so ... I'll be normal sounding from now on XD . Enjoy the documentary though!
@reginaldwelkin
@reginaldwelkin 2 года назад
I think that the tribes were often very different unless they overlapped in environment. While I agree with unification in modern times, to gain power, it shouldn't be done by ignoring history or the many complex cultures that existed. It was Berkeley and Hollywood that made it seem like all tribes were the same...and lumping different tribes in the same reservations. This was the major reason for the destruction of cultural identity. I did appreciate your video. Thanks for sharing your insights!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you my friend for your comment!
@CloakAndDragHer
@CloakAndDragHer 2 года назад
Amazing skills and knowledge!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you so much my dear Heidi!! ❤ ❤
@tonynapoli5549
@tonynapoli5549 2 года назад
Hello my friend how you keeping Very good video Great skills ..... and a flute player. 👌👍 Thanks for sharing.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you very much!
@wolverine5300
@wolverine5300 2 года назад
i have a "friend" who constantly criticizes me for not doing a full draw and not having an anchor point, i tell her i'm practicing combat archery. she says i still need to slow down and aim better, but as Pan says, " even if you manage to hit your target with your rapid fire just once, its still a success, thats the point of it," Thank you Pans for this truly instructional video
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
It's funny how people are stuck on following what others teach. They follow gurus instead of actually experimenting and evolving these arts. I always say something more. "I am not the one who reads the books you follow, I am the one who WRITES the books you follow". She is stuck in what she follows, but you my friend, you are following YOU and you are evolving the art to fit you. Keep strong!
@wolverine5300
@wolverine5300 2 года назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos thank you, i will
@allanquatermain777
@allanquatermain777 2 года назад
You can tell your friend that if there is a real fight, the enemy will not stand still and let her take aim.
@allanquatermain777
@allanquatermain777 2 года назад
Combat is not the competitive competition, if someone let an Olympic pistol shooting champion and a special forces soldier in a narrow space with the pistol to shooting each other at the same time , who will survive?
@wolverine5300
@wolverine5300 2 года назад
@@allanquatermain777 agreed, i shoot two targets when rapid firing, 10 yd and 20 yd. that way i learn to get better acquisition and it makes it more realistic, no one will come at even spaces. they will be varied distances
@MikoArcher
@MikoArcher 2 года назад
If you want to see fast archery in movie - Robin Hood 2018 (film suks)
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
I watched it, hahaha at least it's a start.
@cz6774
@cz6774 2 года назад
That 3/4 draw technique is really fantastic. The key to instinctive archery is practice, practice, practice...
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
I couldn't agree more! ;) . Also, if you have a real "purpose", THEN your instinct is awakened. In my case for example, because of the military service, I trained with the genuine belief that this archery can be used for combat. So my goal was realistic while training. That gave my instinct let's say enough "fuel".
@MikoArcher
@MikoArcher 2 года назад
Yea! New video and new bow! Awesome!
@SnapperTurtle
@SnapperTurtle Год назад
Literally changed my whole perspective on archery, thank you
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank YOU! At your service 😃
@comfusedWorldpassanger3399
@comfusedWorldpassanger3399 Год назад
You've done a great job with this research on native American culture and the archery they used. You are an inspiration. Greetings from Norway.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much my friend! Greetings!
@ambidextrousarchery
@ambidextrousarchery 2 года назад
Fantastic video. Loved the history and explanations. Beautiful music. Really cool technique. What is the poundage you use with a pinch draw? You have a new subscriber. 🙏🏼😎🏹
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Welcome my friend and thank you! At full draw this bow can reach up to 35lbs.
@Lalaafastroli
@Lalaafastroli 11 месяцев назад
this man is an absolute unit, more scared off him then the bow
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
I literally have to nerf me down while interacting with the world around me XD . I'm aware that I am kinda scary and I am trying to act "sweeter" LOL XD
@beardedbowyer9327
@beardedbowyer9327 2 года назад
awesome shooting man keep practice. it is our belief that what was lost should be pass on and researched. for we never know what the future holds. and these are essential skills, and also fun
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you very much! True words.
@bienyamientoefy1923
@bienyamientoefy1923 Год назад
greetings sir and greetings to all.a cup of tea and watching your video made my day.i learned alot.i just finished 3 comanche bows and needed some more explanation the best way to shoot them.thank you for sharing your research and🙂 knowledge.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
I deeply appreciate your comment my friend! Good to have you here and thank you!
@Poqanics
@Poqanics 2 месяца назад
dude, that 00:09:00 is impressive af, that's grip strength to the max
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 месяца назад
No wonder I chose it as my favorite way of handling it :D
@adventuresjourney7243
@adventuresjourney7243 Год назад
I use a similar style of archery passed down in the family for rapid shots. Have always been told it’s for when an opponent is further than a spears length away to how far an axe or knife can be thrown. Only time for pulling all the way back is for longer distances and more powerful shots to pierce heavily armoured opponents or shields with techniques slightly differing depending on the draw weight of the bow. Might just be something similar to wives tales for it’s point of distance and application, thought it might be an interesting read. Please forgive my grammar.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
You fully understand how this technique works :D . Glad to have you here my friend!
@AllofArchery
@AllofArchery 2 года назад
Great video, and tons of information in it. Thank you so much.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you Bro!
@Poqanics
@Poqanics 2 месяца назад
this video fills me, thank you, that rifle is incredibly beautiful
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 месяца назад
Thank you! The rifle is handmade ;)
@tonykaczmarek278
@tonykaczmarek278 2 года назад
Nice bow and arrows. Great explanation . to be honest I think there were right handed archers and left handed archers. If you read about some of the attacks on wagon trains in the plains they'd circle around on the horses .another group would circle around the opposite way . this was to confuse the defenders. To ride clockwise and shoot you'd have to be left handed , counter clock wise right handed. Or be able to shoot left or right.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Yes. I agree. When making formations, tactical skills can be used. To synchronize with the others in an orderly fashion. So even if they weren't going to use any rapid shooting, they would still be able to use techniques from the right side. I'll keep experimenting to see what skills can be revived like this.
@paultodd2826
@paultodd2826 2 месяца назад
Love the short bow you made. Good shooting too !!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 месяца назад
Thank you! :D
@bigboss-tl2xr
@bigboss-tl2xr 2 года назад
Haven't even watched the video yet, but Pan gets a 👍🏼!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Hehehe thank you Bro! You can find me on facebook if you haven't already. Type the same name as seen in the name of my channel (without Military Archery).
@panamared3681
@panamared3681 2 года назад
Remarkable speed and accuracy.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you very much!
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 года назад
This was pure excellence! Thank you.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you very much!
@saustin5554
@saustin5554 Год назад
The Comanche used a short bow because they could fire the bow from different positions on horseback . A longer bow would not work. The Comanche nation was the most feared and most accomplished warriors of any nation.
@alasdairmackintosh
@alasdairmackintosh 10 месяцев назад
This is similar to the Plains Cree who inhabit the Canadian Prairies. They are one of the largest tribes here, and the horse was very important to their culture like it was for The Comanche.
@MikoArcher
@MikoArcher 2 года назад
Синяя изолента - канон!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Tape is a tool from heaven hahaha. The blue one was wool .
@MikoArcher
@MikoArcher 2 года назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos Blu tape it's a mem in my country
@TexExpatriate1
@TexExpatriate1 2 года назад
A good video, Pan. A good point about using what you can rather than an entire tree. My other name is Kiowa Lee.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
I'm glad to have you here my friend and thank you!
@thunderbear4254
@thunderbear4254 2 года назад
You're the only one ive seen do the homework and appreciate our archery ways. Bravo sir! ✊🏾
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much for your kind words sir!
@slingshotwarrrior8105
@slingshotwarrrior8105 2 года назад
Fine craftsmanship and awesome archery! Have you seen my recent crossbow practice shooting video? Where I shoot at my homemade archery target in the woods! 🤠🤠🤠👍👍👍🎯🎯🎯🎯🏹🏹🏹
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you Bro! Yes I did. Awesome practice! ;)
@slingshotwarrrior8105
@slingshotwarrrior8105 2 года назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos welcome bro
@ronnienorth
@ronnienorth 2 года назад
Awesome!!! Great video. I'm going to try this style very soon... So fast!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you Ronnie! Have fun!
@shawnhurlburt3158
@shawnhurlburt3158 2 года назад
I wouldn't be surprised if these types of skills were not lost. Many planes tribes still have there secret war societies and bow hunting has been practiced on reservations since they were formed. Not only that, they have preserved the knowledge of horses and how they rode them back in the day. The other artistic crafts have been preserved.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
You are correct ;) . Many are training in a military fashion too but shhhh :p "you didn't hear that from me :p "|
@McShizzle
@McShizzle 2 года назад
I watched the movie on Hulu and it's a good movie. I'd recommend it
@kevincage1641
@kevincage1641 Год назад
Good shot Pan Brother on using dead wood, not living wood. You are spreading true accurate teaching to preserve Mother. It is waste' (good) Hoka He
@crazycoyote1738
@crazycoyote1738 2 года назад
Good job brother!!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much Brother!
@papilurk1675
@papilurk1675 2 года назад
Thank you. I enjoy Comanche archery videos more than you can realize, so this feels awesome to learn .
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you my friend! Then I'll make sure that more of this will keep coming 😄
@pabloserna8971
@pabloserna8971 Год назад
Thank you for this analysis my friend! I agree with you and as a traditional archer it bothered me a little- still a great movie and Amber Midthunder was awesome!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you for your feedback my friend! Yes, the movie was fine indeed. It's not like the archery part was the main focus. Just a minor detail that can be easily missed for the plot's sake.
@miguelveratraditionalarche9374
@miguelveratraditionalarche9374 2 года назад
I love your videos always full of knowledge. Thanks for sharing 🙏🏹😊
@ambidextrousarchery
@ambidextrousarchery 2 года назад
You were correct! Thank you for recommending this fantastic content.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Miguel! Thank you so much for your comment!! You are an awesome archer. I watch everything you make!
@tonymaccaroni5744
@tonymaccaroni5744 Год назад
Very impressing.
@slingshotwarrrior8105
@slingshotwarrrior8105 2 года назад
Movies never get it right, for example, sword fight from the middle ages.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Oh you just opened a HUUUGE topic hahaha. Swords cutting through plate armor like hitting wet paper, hitting swords edge with edge, pretending swords are sooo heavy and hard to maneuver... and the list goes on. Darn movies, DO IT RIGHT.
@slingshotwarrrior8105
@slingshotwarrrior8105 2 года назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos So true, Hollywood doesn't even know.
@marcosyy87
@marcosyy87 2 года назад
They want to hide the knowledge from us! The man who keeps the ancient knowledge is too dangerous
@abuzuhm
@abuzuhm 2 года назад
Very cool, very inspirational. I would like to combine your technique with eastern horse archery techniques.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much my friend! I am curious to see the results! 😄
@tomboese367
@tomboese367 4 месяца назад
Good morning Pan. I am new to your channel, and watching this video really through me. I could not connect your accent with your tribe! Ha, laugh's on me. I'm glad I read your post about your "international ears". I highly value your skills and knowledge, thank you for sharing. By the way, I've recently started making arrows in a Comanche and Apache style. After watching your video today I am more confident to make a short bow. Thank you for your teaching!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Hello my friend! Thank you very much! Oh trust me... if you make or get such a bow... you are gonna have lots and lots of fun! ;)
@TheCragg777
@TheCragg777 28 дней назад
Lived around Hopi Zuni Dineh 1976-77. Northern AZ/NM. Now near Nez Perce.I still have my great grandfathers arrow wrench. When I was five or six, he showed me where to find suckers from damaged trees for arrows. Then he passed. I’ve knapped buckets of arrowheads. That obsidian is surprisingly sharp. Ever use cactus needle tips for lightweight bird arrows? Removable/replaceable tips? For hollow reed shafts? Thanks for sharing.
@cz6774
@cz6774 Год назад
I think the kinzhalnaya dagger draw is an effective way of shooting. I don't know if it was actually used by the Comanche but I've seen older paintings where it may have been used in extreme close range buffalo hunting. (dawing the arrow to the sternum and holding on to a horse with no stirrups...) Some of the archers on RU-vid hate that "corrupt draw" because it doesn't it doesn't anchor for aiming. They fail to recognize that it is a completely instinctive way of shooting and the Comanche lived their entire lives hunting. They used what they had to the best of their abilities. I also found this link to the Scythian draw and that may be the way the dagger draw was developed. I think it would be a great way to shoot with your weak hand if for some reason you can't use your strong hand to knock the arrow. Back in the day if they couldn't hunt they couldn't eat. Anyway, check this video out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yy1YbMJSNSc.html
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
I can actually confirm your thoughts by a simple explanation. This type of draw is CLEARLY for horseback. As it helps the archer aim towards the back side. This handling realigns the "sights" perfectly with the target and gives more stability. So... what was the ONE thing that the Comanche used to move forward and progress? Yep... HORSES! Thinking that old warriors would use ONLY one style because "it's the Comanche style" is not realistic. Old warriors were practical and would use what helps them throw their arrow on to the target. So, the moment horses were introduced, these new styles of shooting were inevitable. This is probably what confused the consultants of the movie. My point would be that they used this style while depicting PRE-horses Comanches. Thus tossing out the MUCH more traditional, for the longest time, shooting style.
@alonzowitt5931
@alonzowitt5931 Год назад
Yes sir that's fast enough to keep you running 😂
@AllofArchery
@AllofArchery 2 года назад
Man your good.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you!
@janzizka9963
@janzizka9963 2 года назад
Incredible video, instant subscribtion!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you very much! Welcome !
@sibturn7656
@sibturn7656 Год назад
Bro finally!!!! Thank you for pointing that out
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much my friend!
@muhammadadib3387
@muhammadadib3387 11 месяцев назад
Can you suggest where to buy the bow? And what is the suitable length of the arrow for thia bow, i thought it would be shorter than the common one (maybe 28 inch i guess)
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
I have some crafting tutorials uploaded for both bows and arrows. But also, I am working on making an online shop. But it is taking some time.
@nightfog1722
@nightfog1722 Год назад
The bow design is interesting. Previous bows I've tried I'd be splitting a branch section of wood in half and then in another half to make a reasonable flatbow, but this idea seems like a quicker way to build a bow while using a smaller and easier to cut branch. Hopefully will try it out soon.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Good luck! You won't be disappointed.
@brucenovotny5924
@brucenovotny5924 2 года назад
Well done my friend. Good reasoning as well...I truly enjoyed the video. Movies are, for the huge part, a BIG lie...
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much my friend! More and more, people are educating themselves and the demand for historical realism rises. I bet there will be a new movie standards revolution. Only those who do it right will become successful.
@DUDENOHELP
@DUDENOHELP 6 месяцев назад
thank you for your time and this video! awesome to learn and watch. Just started getting into archery. love it.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Best sport you could ever stumble upon hehehe. Have lots and lots of fun! And thank you my friend!
@jkcbrah4708
@jkcbrah4708 2 года назад
Oh wow, beautiful job making those bow and arrows, they look stunning. That's so funny though, just a few days ago I was wondering if you are gonna make a wooden bow like the one you've just made in this video and yea boom here we are.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Hehehe that's the good thing about me. You don't even need to comment any requests. You think them and like a good mentalist (I mean shaman) I deliver :p
@jkcbrah4708
@jkcbrah4708 2 года назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos hahaha yo no surprises there, all minds are connected aye straight up. Straight up though the technique you showed in this video was insane dude, im so keen on more videos of you legit just shooting with that technique, was diiissguussttinnggg. Awesome man.
@jkcbrah4708
@jkcbrah4708 2 года назад
Also what you were saying about purpose bro, how it can be used as fuel. The price of everything in my country (New Zealand) has gone up so much so we have to do our own hunting for meat, leather, tendons etc. The government is also doing really corrupt stuff as well, so me, my brother, and my friend are studying a lot of archery & have been working on our own bows so these sorts of videos are very valuable to us because it's gonna help us to provide for our family & defend ourselves. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, eternally grateful.
@jatisatrio
@jatisatrio 2 года назад
"they use branches to preserve trees" I like it..
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you my friend! As things are progressing, maybe thinking this way is very relatable again. We have the knowledge and we will survive.
@manowode6286
@manowode6286 2 года назад
Thanks for rekindling my faith in branch bows, and natural shooting. Peace bro.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
You are welcome my friend! There is always something more to be had about these bows. hehehe.
@ivanrodriguez8966
@ivanrodriguez8966 2 года назад
Quality video! Definitely earned a new subscriber!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you so much my friend!!
@muhammadadib3387
@muhammadadib3387 11 месяцев назад
How long is the arrow? It must be shorter than the common arrows right (shorter than 30 inch perhaps)?
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
With this style of shooting, yeah it can be. In fact, it makes it possible to have any length of arrows in the same batch. You can shoot inconsistent lengths with no issue.
@Daylon91
@Daylon91 2 года назад
Excellent video mate. Hoka Hey it is the day after Custers death and u bring us a good video 📹
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Hehehe exactly! He won't be missed. Hoka Hey! Thank you!
@tbeverage1
@tbeverage1 2 года назад
I'm making my first little Comanche inspired bow . You should have seen peoples faces when I said i was going to make a bow out of this old dried cracked broken tool handle. Shovel I think and Hickory I think. Why? it will be lot less heart breaking if it breaks while I'm learning than a quality seasoned Osage Orange stave, and i can get some practice chasing a ring while I'm hunting that Osage orange stave. Old shovel handle is taking shape now though I believe I'm going see some folks change their tune here shortly. I've been watching and getting inspired you foe a while now. I'm starting to pick up a little speed myself, under your tutelage. Saying thank you is an understatement and can never say enough.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
I took my time being able to read my comments. Sorry about that 😅 . Enough time has passed so I am guessing you have finished your project. I am really curious to learn about your results. Did it work?
@dancegod1691
@dancegod1691 Год назад
What an adventure!
@ricardoaguilar4602
@ricardoaguilar4602 Год назад
Hermoso video donde demuestras la originalidad de la arqueria Comanche, su utilidad práctica para el combate. Es un aporte histórico de mucha importancia. Felicidades y saludos desde San Francisco de Campeche,exico.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Saludos Hermano! Siento el retraso en la respuesta. ¡Muchas gracias!
@Mrbodhisattva1
@Mrbodhisattva1 10 месяцев назад
Hope you are doing well Pan! Your videos always pop up in my continued search for more knowledge on traditional native archery. I love how you show from a Navajo perspective.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Good to see you Brother! It's my tiny contribution in honor of one of the most ancient and richest nations :D
@ARTCHILD
@ARTCHILD 2 года назад
AWESOME! Thank you!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634
@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634 6 месяцев назад
awesome video on the comanche archery keep it up !
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Always brother! Thank you!
@scramjet7466
@scramjet7466 6 месяцев назад
i like the simplicity of this style. what can you do when wood is scarce. what is the effective range and penetration?
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Thank you! It is good for up to 80 yards. It can get better with lighter arrows. About penetration... hmmm it is up to the arrowhead and what type of target you are hitting. Maybe I can do some ballistic jell + covers (armor) tests in future videos.
@scramjet7466
@scramjet7466 3 месяца назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos please do some tests!
@fabiochiarenza3539
@fabiochiarenza3539 Год назад
Hello ! How long is your bow? and how many pounds of horsepower? Thank you
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
30lbs light short bow. Enough to do what is needed :D
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 6 месяцев назад
you dont mention your tribal name..... is it blows on his pipe or twangs with his bow? :) lol just joking :) most of out local names went, with Roman, French, German, English and Norweigan invasion of Britain. from 56 ad. I think the latest tribal name is... wtf are we tribe :) lol although was still the Sulurites until around 100 ad. Great videos mate :)
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Thank you my friend! My name? : ... William Knifeman AAAH! AAAH! (Reservation Dogs reference)
@orlandojohnny3599
@orlandojohnny3599 Год назад
Hey said hello my name is .......and it amazing ............I am Navajo myself
@loriekaczmarek9788
@loriekaczmarek9788 10 месяцев назад
Hi pan. Nice explination and awesome bow. As for bows made from a branch or very skinny sapling. Its alot easier making a bow like this than to cut a huge tree down, split it, and work that into a bow. Most of my bows are made from small saplings or branches.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Hellooo! Thank you! Always glad to talk to people with the same interests. And these are VERY USEFUL interests right now. I am also using a special bamboo bundle-bow recipe. I have even made a complete crafting tutorial about it. There are so many approaches when it comes to a functioning bow.
@loriekaczmarek9788
@loriekaczmarek9788 3 месяца назад
@PanSaltzCaballeratos yes I've seen your videos using those bundle bows. They are great bows. In a survival situation it's a quick bow to make.
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 2 года назад
Great job.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you sir!
@onstantind.4606
@onstantind.4606 2 года назад
Спасибо. Очень интересная техника! Я бы у вас поучился. Хочу задать вопрос- а на охоте, к примеру, без лошади, эффективность достигается быстротой стрельбы или точным выстрелом? И, в среднем, на какое расстояние надо приблизиться к зверю, к примеру, оленю? Какой силы используется лук для охоты?
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Sorry for my reply in English :p . I separate hunting and war because for hunting you want to take down your target with one good shot. A 30 lbs bow CAN hunt if you use good arrow heads. Like a sharp broad head. If you hit the lungs, the animal is finished. But I would suggest a stronger bow for hunting. 50 lbs and higher. It has more certain results. The archery shown in my video works best for war. It can do more general damage as it creates wounded enemies. A wounded soldier brings havoc in the mentality of his fellow soldiers. Two more soldiers have to carry him off the battlefield, thus three people are taken out of the war with one softer shot. And it creates more prisoners for questioning. Such a bow has the same function as the 5.56 caliber firearms.
@onstantind.4606
@onstantind.4606 2 года назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos спасибо за ответ, почти все понял.
@coremotion
@coremotion Год назад
I never really seerched into nockless arrows but it seem you have some backgrounds and showed me they are real, i have made some before cause of feeling lazy and i insepect its probably not offical and only for fast shooting lazy me 😂
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
-Lazy- ---> Historically accurate 🤣 . I made a video excusing all of us hahaha.
@coremotion
@coremotion Год назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos 🤣 very well pleased then
@tonalddrump
@tonalddrump 2 года назад
great video!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you very much Pister Mresident!
@gfreeman9843
@gfreeman9843 2 года назад
Hey man..if l was making a movie. I'd be asking you to star in it... imagine half a dozen warriors coming through a camp shooting like you...but because they did it from early childhood..taught by seasoned warriors..and constantly competing with friends their level of skill would be almost unbelievable to us....
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much my friend! Actually... soon I'm gonna surprise you about such a movie . The first installment is almost finished hehehe. Indeed we can only imagine how good they must had been back then.
@gfreeman9843
@gfreeman9843 Год назад
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos looking forward to seeing the movie.. regards Amigo
@muhammadadib3387
@muhammadadib3387 Год назад
Just wanna know, how much the draw weight of the bow? Is it possible to make it 40lb? (my preferred draw weight btw)
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Yes, you can make it be even 60lbs if you carve a thicker piece of wood. Mine is 30lbs in this video. You can easily reach 40lbs with Jacaranda wood. Especially if you use epoxy and resin as varnish.
@muhammadadib3387
@muhammadadib3387 11 месяцев назад
​@@PanSaltzCaballeratosi wish i know how to make one. Here in my place some of the bowyer use rattan wood to make bow. Guess i have to try t out
@georgepats1168
@georgepats1168 2 года назад
Where did you find the wood ?
@michelleslutpuppy4355
@michelleslutpuppy4355 8 месяцев назад
😊i love flute music I'm 59 yr.old part Charrooke i use to go to pow wow in Md & dress in regalia w/wife but devorced in 97 I've gotten a bunch of native American tapes
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Keeping your tradition alive is very important :D . Thank you for doing your honorable part and I am sorry for your divorce and all difficulties in your life. Stay strong!
@kevinmaughan4290
@kevinmaughan4290 5 месяцев назад
Great video, do you make and sell these bows??
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Thank you! Yep. I have an entire online shop coming up soon. But you could also look into my bamboo recipe. A crafting tutorial for complete beginners.
@mattredfern1339
@mattredfern1339 Год назад
awesome work Brother many Thanks for sharing 😊.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much! It's a pleasure.
@miked7074
@miked7074 Год назад
My friend everything in that movie was a bad peyote trip. The tomohak on a rope the fighting style the shooting style is a half a temp at the Saka sythian draw seen on ancient Greek pottery. This kind of draw was made popular from some Russian archerers about 11 years ago. Fast to knock but the arrow bounces around if you are in motion. Love your videos!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much my friend! It's a pity they didn't do some research. Maybe the focus was to portray "a strong independent woman" instead of any history.
@MrOrigami
@MrOrigami Год назад
I'm pretty sure you've addressed these questions on one of your other videos, but: Average length of your arrows? Poundage on your branch bow? Length of bow? The only 2 things I can guess is brace height at 5 inches, and draw looks like 15-20 inches.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Arrows length : 61cm / 24 inches. Length of bow : (average) 120cm / 47 inches. Draw length : ...yes you got that right 😄 . Draw weight : 30lbs
@MrOrigami
@MrOrigami Год назад
Thanks
@dannygood9656
@dannygood9656 2 года назад
I started shooting crossbow 22" bolts with my bow and it's faster to shoot because of their open V shaped knocks
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
In one of my previous videos I used 22' length arrows too. But still nockless :p . I could try making wide V nocks to try other styles of archery too. Sounds like fun.
@SKaR64
@SKaR64 Год назад
The Comanche weapons in Prey are simply awful, awful, awful. I prayed that no one asked me to endure their depiction and extremely poor use in this completely ahistorical movie. It's like the prop manager and director didn't even care about making believable Native American weapons.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
They lost the best chance to do it right and benefit the world. Their loss.
@braxtonnichols8373
@braxtonnichols8373 Год назад
Philimayeye thank you in Lakota, I’m gonna try practicing to honour my ancestors
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Your comment means a whole lot to me. Thank you very much my friend!
@rampantcolt1684
@rampantcolt1684 2 года назад
Awesome video! Damn fine shooting Pan!!! Thanks for posting.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much my friend!
@Hostile-Hondo
@Hostile-Hondo 2 года назад
Question I've been practicing a similar style to yours but I was shown to pull the fletches through the bow hand grip if using broadheads is that something you practice in your style as well
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
If you notice my movement, I don't actually pass the arrowheads through my bow hand. I open slightly my four fingers and I keep holding the bow with my thumb and palm. So the arrows actually fall under the hand and I can pick them up. This way I can hold thin AND broad arrowheads in my hand. It helps if you hold the nock and pull it down to get unstuck from your loose fingers. Then I just play with gravity to maneuver it up and on the bow.
@danielbass2333
@danielbass2333 Год назад
How many pound was this bow?
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
30 lbs
@ParkourEh
@ParkourEh Год назад
Is it possible to shoot this fast carrying the arrows tip down instead of tip down as you demonstrated? Let's say a person spends an equal amount of time practicing both techniques.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Yes and doing so would make you faster. In fact, I prefer holding the arrowheads downward. You can see this in almost all my other videos.
@apprenticekaoenview2388
@apprenticekaoenview2388 3 месяца назад
@PanSaltzCablleratos Are there anything special about the arrows? are they shorter length than average?
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Well... to list a few special things about them : they don't have a V shaped nock on their back. It is completely flat. The fletching is a double helix, and the length can vary from arrow to arrow if you use this style of shooting. So that last part could be considered special. You already have a short draw so the length doesn't have to be fixed.
@j.a.h.vandelaak3477
@j.a.h.vandelaak3477 2 года назад
Nice video, but in the movie Prey it seems they draw differently. The drawing hand is “up side down”? (in the movie)
@charlesleblanc6638
@charlesleblanc6638 Год назад
I would much rather have these skills, then trying to load my musket while 3 arrows had already hit me !!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
The target will look like a porcupine in no time ;)
@FT4Freedom
@FT4Freedom 2 года назад
The American short bow is the AR15 of bows. Light, small arm, compact, high rate of fire. It's a brilliant design. You can find the short bow and rapid fire relationship exists in different continents.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
I always made the same comparison in my mind. I fully approve 😅
@poothrowingape
@poothrowingape 10 месяцев назад
And hated by the federal government
@allanquatermain777
@allanquatermain777 2 года назад
Comanche archery is the same fighting concept as the cowboy's fast draw which is to attack suddenly at close range at a very fast speed so that the enemy can't react. Comanche archery can carry out sneak attacks, assassinations, stealth operations and guerrilla operations against the enemy like Vietnamese guerrillas, ninjas and assassins. You can make the simplest, most practical and lethal bow at the lowest cost, kill an enemy soldier with a gun in his hand under certain environment, and then seize his gun
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Hello my warrior Brother! It is exactly as you described it!
@TexExpatriate1
@TexExpatriate1 2 года назад
And what you say you "can" do, American insurgents will be doing in a few years when the present government tyranny by both parties becomes intolerable.
@lordenvincar
@lordenvincar 11 месяцев назад
Does this style have enough power to bring down large game? sorry i dont know much about archery im new.
@fajarexotic5567
@fajarexotic5567 8 месяцев назад
Amazing
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@bubblesezblonde
@bubblesezblonde 2 года назад
101st commenter and new subscriber here: Thanks for an outstanding and pragmatic vid! I've often thought that taking more than a day to make a bow would be expensive in a stone aged society.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 2 года назад
Thank you my friend! I understand very well your point. You understand deeply the essence of a realistic survival skill.
@itsEMAN1
@itsEMAN1 Год назад
this is better then history channel i was very interested once i saw the movie
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Best comment here. Thank you very much for your kind words my friend!
@luisandraschnik3001
@luisandraschnik3001 Год назад
A mí también me llamó la atención como aficionado a la arquería, en Prey el anclaje no corresponde a ninguno que haya visto antes. El que muestras 03:08 es el anclaje Comanche según pinturas y videos (Lars Andersen) .Distintos son los anclajes Apache (tomando la cuerda 3 dedos bajo la flecha) y Cherokee (índice arriba, medio y anular abajo de la flecha), este último prácticamente igua al anclaje mediterráneo (según videos de verdaderos arqueros Cherokee actuales). Saludos dese Argentina.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Saludos amigo. De hecho hay tantos estilos diferentes y fueron capaces de no descubrir ninguno para hacer una película mejor. 🤣
@rudychavira5558
@rudychavira5558 Год назад
Thank you for your perspective, very well done
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much!
@maryjocookson7156
@maryjocookson7156 Год назад
what great skill and speed, really inspired by this!
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you so much my friend!
@marcosyy87
@marcosyy87 2 года назад
Insane amount of content. I really appreciate, thx
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Thank you very much!!
@luisclaudiofaria8718
@luisclaudiofaria8718 8 месяцев назад
Muito bom..
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos 3 месяца назад
Obrigado!
@nakoawarrior3186
@nakoawarrior3186 Год назад
Check out Mead Archery he's pretty good.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
Yes, I am a subscriber 😇
@waltergigandet6715
@waltergigandet6715 Год назад
❤❤❤
@PanSaltzCaballeratos
@PanSaltzCaballeratos Год назад
😁
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