Addressing The Yammie Noob "Scam" Drama 

Hahaha. Mad props for not recommending your own code.

LOL was not expecting the Brahs promo code 😂

Brah has a code? That's awesome 🤣

Prop's for the video. Honestly, I've completely ignored him as primary content. Unsubscribed the moment he fired spite. This is the same guy who likes to stack the deck against things he doesnt like in his reviews. If you dont believe me, go watch his latest RnineT video.. where he rode the entire review in rain mode.. bitching and moaning about how "anemic" the bike was... No, Im not joking.

Gixxer brah doesn't wear gear so ofc he likes those pants lmao

This comment needs to be farther up... I'll never trust a company that doesn't have a CE-rating for PE. Both my pants and jacket are AAA.

I’ve had 6 pairs of nbt pants not one lasted me more than a 2 months. Ride rich lasted me an entire year which consisted of 20k+ miles 3-4 crashes.

@@MadWilli Do you ever stop to wonder… Why do I crash all the time?

@@Mikkel111 every single time, it eats at me for days, weeks, or months till I figure out exactly what caused it, what to look out for and things that I could’ve done in that moment to have saved the bike or myself. I realized a lot of riders don’t crash because they barely ride, they only ride in perfect conditions, and/or the area they ride in is low to mid danger area. My first 2 years of riding I did 57k+ miles in all weather conditions from 12-107F degrees, rain or shine. Instead of running from the hazards I wanted to learn from them so I truly understood how to ride. The first 3-4 months I had my 660 I put 17k miles.

@@MadWilli wow, that is a lot of motorcycle riding I'm just getting back into it, I've only ever done fair-weather riding, and I think that's my future as well, but… Respect I'll check Ride Rich. My number one priority is protection on my old bod.

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If we're gonna go down that road... let's talk about the DOT certification. It's literally just an honor-code sticker on helmets. There's no actually testing by the DOT, they just trust that manufacturers will meet their (out of date and highly flawed) safety standards.

@@snwbrdbum14 everybody recommends both dot(for legal) and ece (for actual protection). But is not only the certification, is the actual features. If i have to choose between 2 items that look similar and have almost the same price guess what i'm picking.

@@snwbrdbum14whole separate rating system for a different piece of gear. If you wanna go down that rabbit whole. Every certification including doctorate degrees are bull crap and every person is that. Human and we all mess up at some point. Lol

​@@snwbrdbum14 CE rating is euro. NBT has no a, aa, AAA rating. Its a good rating system

Facts

not really, you know burch DMed every clothing brand out there and only got sponsored by NBT, trust me if he can switch over to saint he would do it in a heart beat

I agree. How many of his videos are him slamming every kind of bike rider except for his style of riding. If you don’t ride a desert sled and race at the track on the weekend, you are a squid douch that doesn’t know what riding is all about.

He does live in Austin, Texas. The least Texan city there is full of pretentious bastards.

@@PATTT_ Yam has always conveyed a perspective of superiority. That’s where the luxury truck and Porsche come from duh. Ducatisa turbo busa track bro etc. it’s all for image sales what RU-vid is based on

I ONLY watched for Spite. I always hated Yam. The dude is just irritating as hell.

lol mabey he gives bikes away ok my guy

Ya that video where he fired Spite and put it on his channel for views, then took it down after all the justified flack he got over it and how he handled it, showed him to be a cowardly, nasty, and utterly self centered individual. I unsubscribed and blocked his videos after that. Honestly his videos to be mostly useless/sensationalized anyways.

​​@@packgrogI don't even like spite, I find him boring. But I subscribe and try support him because he was done dirty by scammy pube

I was curious as to what it takes to win one of his "giveaway" bikes. Technically, it is a giveaway motorcycle as it doesn't require buying anything to win; but to do so would require you handwrite a contest entry on a 3 by 5 card in order to get 250 entries while platinum tier would give you 10,000 entries. Functionally, it works as a paid lottery as, realistically, 250 entries would be heavily diluted; since there's no certification if a 3 by 5 card is received then who is to keep track if 3 by 5 entries get "lost". I wouldn't enter his sweepstakes (paid or free) because the odds are unknown and unknowable. It's just a wealth transfer from poor to rich.

He's stating the popular opinion. Doesn't mean it's his own.

@@python2400its still really stupid

To be fair some gear does look lame as fug

Right? I've never heard anyone say that and if you're in any riding facebook group you will get flamed for posting a pic not wearing gear. We out here trying to have fun while staying alive

I appreciate the perspective! As much as people think this is a paid video, it’s not, so I can say…yea the quality wasn’t that great at first a couple years back 😂 but it’s honestly SOOO much better now! Especially with the switch to aramid. After all this commotion, I’ll probably try some Alpinestars pants or something similar just to really see how they compare. Which ones do you rock? Got a link?

Fwiw, if you're an Average Height American, I'd say go Rev'It instead of Alpinestars. Great quality, lower cost (you pay a fair amount for just the AStars logo/hype/branding), and more variety in colorways (last I checked anyways). If you're a Tall Height & Semi-wide American (6'5" with 40 inch waist for example), Klim Pants are my suggestion. I've worn both Klim and Rev'It, Rev'It I like for the: Price Tag, the Tornado 3 Jacket has more pocket spots than my Klim Induction Pro, and for coming with a inner-liner (removable) at the cost. I like Klim because: they have measurements listed for their sleeve length, and also an XL Klim fits my XL frame better than an XL Rev'It does (1 inch short on torso length, about half an inch on sleeve length) Anywho.. Alpinestars... they run small in the American market, I'd need to buy a 2XL Glove if I order their gloves, my cousin (6'4" and a 36 waist) I took to local motorcycle dealer to get him fitted with jacket and such.. the XL Alpinestars jacket we grabbed at a Honda dealership looked like he was trying to squeeze into a Medium Skinny Tee, we went across the street to a Euro Motorcycle dealership (I was showing him Honda bikes, but wanted to try to see if the Euro Bike shop had gloves from Held, a German company) and we saw they had Klim over there, he put on a XL Klim jacket, it was snug on him, but not unwearable. (I'm tall and wide hips, he's tall and less-wide hips but more stomach/chest than me for context, my build for stomach and chest is Average) TL;DR Triple Check the sizing chart, and use RevZilla if you haven't. Rev'It is a very decent brand for the cost/value ratio. Klim is great if you have a big American frame (tall and/or wide sense) but if the sleeve length is fine, and you can just size-up for torso length, Rev'It is what I'd go with.

As another who bought NBT. I echo what you said. I'm pretty short and the legs are too long(and the only smaller size has the same length legs), the armor isn't gonna be in the right spot. are they probably better than some run of the mill jeans? probably, but not nearly enough to justify the cost.

I think there’s a difference when you are advertising a quality product vs a Chinese drop shipped underperforming knock off product.

A High End Pimp is still a PIMP

He gets sponsored by high quality well known and trusted brands. HUGE difference

@@think.culture Dang, youbeat me to the response! lol

Thing is I've low sided in regular Lucky jeans going 30~ and they held up. It really depends on how you land. Most of us will go arms first so our jacket will take most of the impact and abrasion. Also low siding you're likely still with your bike for the initial portion of the slide give your legs some leverage and likely the tip of your shoe getting the abrasion. In my case it was mostly my right shoulder and elbow and front of my shoe that got burned and eaten by the pavement. My jeans just had some dirt and light scuffing. I will admit even the NBT jeans, long as it's the aramid paneled version, are probably better than the majority of regular fashion jeans but even then not by much and are grossly over priced. You can get actual Aramid woven, not lined, jeans from brands like Noru for $70-80. Fully abrasion rated and armored jeans from Oxford or Dainese for under $200.

@@shauns5278 You're right. I have the Flat Out Bar on my FXLRS and that probably did more than any gear because it kept my leg from getting pinned. I bent the thing like 30 degrees when I went down. I had a little bit of road rash on my elbow because I was wearing a mesh jacket but it wasnt even noticeable at first. I did fracture my thumb because I was holding on until the end trying to keep her upright. My gloves couldnt have done anything about that. Do I regret buying those LTR pants? Not really because it was an upgrade. Will I consider different pants in the future knowing what I know now? Absolutely.

He clearly doesn’t know much about fabrics because abrasion resistant fabrics weave aramid fibers into the denim itself or double/triple stitch an afraid layer under the outer heavy duty denim. The fact that he’s complaining about being called out for regular denim is concerning. His affiliation with the company should come with an apology and a disclaimer that later products will be certified but as of right now, they are not and do not perform as they advertise. Plenty of stuff is made in china, I agree, that doesn’t make them inherently bad, what makes them bad is not being built to standard. Just because it’s a new company doesn’t give them a pass to sell a product that doesn’t do what it says on the tin so to speak.

Cuz of this guy i got my 2024 1100 rebel and i love the bike

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A fellow scooter learner! I was too nervous to start out on a bike so I bought a 150cc chinese scooter. Hows it going for you? Im banging up my ankles pretty bad, and my riding is going great im just having a little trouble with starting and stopping and not panicking and getting the wobble lol. Im also obsessed with watching motorcycle videos. Have you decided on a sportsbike or cruiser yet for when you get your first bike? I keep teetering back and fourth.

@@post_cancer_beautycandyjon1049 I still love riding my scooter. I moved a little bit away from the beach, so my surroundings aren't as casual as they were, but I'm able to navigate pretty well in slower speed areas. Otherwise, no issues. I've always been pretty good with bike/dirtbike/scooter balance, so I've got the technique down comfortably. As for what bike, still unsure. I have a gift certificate to take my MSF course within the next month or so. I still like the Rebel 500 SE or the Eliminator. Kind of leaning away from a sport bike. So yeah, same as you, I have no idea. Lmfao

Happy to help dude! Some of his stuff is helpful, but some of it isn’t the best. Just make sure to use your best judgement! And yea Spite’s been gone for like a year and a half unfortunately. Thanks for the support and welcome to the world of riding! 🏍️🤘🏻

Spite went and started his own channel. I think it's called Spite's corner. After I watched the video where he was fired I immediately unsubscribed and now refuse to watch any of yammie noob videos

​@@djakashaI think a lot of his old viewers immediately left, especially when Spite's Corner exploded overnight.

​@djakasha Me too man! Yammie can go take a hike on the turnpike for all I care...

@@djakasha Me too. I watch every Spite video thogh! He just did a colab with Jake the Garden Frog!

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Welp, now I'm in the hospital...

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Lol I was thinking the same and for him saying they are uncomfortable to wear but they'll break in and your body will adapt to wearing gear

Agree. If I ever buy a moto first thing I do next- I'll buy some good full gear

Why? Spite is doing way better now. Yammie taught him everything he needed to know about running a successful youtube channel. Now he's doing his own thing, has his own brand and is making more than he ever has. I don't agree with the firing, but you can't say it didn't benefit Spite

Personally, I was mostly watching Yammie’s channel because of Spite and much preferred videos where he was more prominent. So in that case, Spite was benefiting him. Now I can watch him on his own channel and don’t have to be annoyed listening to Yammie haha

I really only watched Yammie for his meme videos and the banter between him and Spite. Overall, I liked Spite more because he always seemed to go into more detail when they were reviewing bikes. I'm glad Spite was able to recover and start up his own thing, but I never could watching another Yammie video. He just doesn't seem like a person I want to support just based of his reaction to the situation.

​@jvillain9946 probably because he liked Spite more and watches his channel now.

Yammie is a trash reviewer, he has that Logan Paul scam energy

Can't say I blame ya, the like 1 AAA jacket I saw was a Badlands Pro A3, which I guess for what it's worth it's "only" $300 more expensive than regular Badlands Pro jacket but it's still 1.4k so.. yeah.. If ya got AAA rated gear, GREAT on ya (not just "good on ya"), but damn does AAA rated gear have a paywall and a half..

​@@MotoDash1100 Depends on your style/riding use but there are budget options. John Doe V2 XTM Motorcycle Hoodie is AAA for ~$230 (plus $25 back protector). For jeans, Bull-It Guardian are $215. MC Gear Hub has a good list of gear by CE ratings to narrow it down.

lol savage :'D

lol you don’t? Must not be a man

@@kokobeatz7222 I'm just not a smug s.o.b, never watched South Park I suppose?

@@Jordan-M-18-06 nah. I have better things to do with my time. Like smell my farts.

It seemed almost like WWF style drama with yam playing the bad guy. I'm glad spite hulked out and slammed his way to 100k subscribers

Biiggg fax! When I bought my first bike I could barely afford a decent helmet, let alone riding pants and a jacket. So squid behavior it was 🫡😂

i see hwk gear all over amazon "cheap" but realy good reveiws

Except there are affordable alternatives that are actually useable unlike this Amazon crap. Just shop sales. I have AAA rated jeans and they didn't cost me anywhere near $300.

@@ericglazier2394 So where did you get them?

​@@nosman123It's really good, honestly. Obviously, more expensive stuff will be better but it definitely serves its purpose. I got hit at relatively low speed going through an intersection and went for a good 30 ft slide and the gear held up great. I tore through one of the layers on the pants but the jacket just had tar marks from the asphalt.

Just because something isn’t CE abrasion rated doesn’t mean it isn’t actually abrasion resistant, it just means it doesn’t have the official rating. For example, there’s plenty of helmets that are just DOT rated that may also pass the ECE rating, they just don’t have the actual rating because they didn’t opt to pay for the additional testing…if that makes sense. There’s a lot that goes into the actual rating. So their current pants have the aramid lining which is abrasion resistant and does waayyy more than regular denim, but not officially rated, and then they currently have an AA abrasion rated pant in the works, it’s just taking longer than expected with the whole process of the rating, getting the fit right with the stiffer materials needed, etc. Hopefully that makes sense. Definitely appreciate your perspective 🤘🏻

@@LifeOfBurch Definitely makes sense. Hopefully they get them tested to get certified. I don’t mind you being sponsored by them at all, I just wouldn’t buy them until they do have the certification as I won’t know their abrasion resistance until I really need it.

@@DanDryfhout I can respect that 100%! Hopefully we’ll see the new AA pants ASAP! 🤞🏻🤘🏻

CE rating is a European Union thing just FYI

​@@LifeOfBurch my biggest issue with NBT is they're charging a similar price to fully CE certified gear. If they were charging $80-150 I'd have no issues with them. But instead they're charging a fully premium price, lure people in with sales that have a minimum purchase requirement if you don't want to pay outlandish shipping and then try to keep you buying with their "loyalty" club and spamming advertisements every week. You can buy far better jeans from Scorpion, Icon, Speed and Strength, Oxford for $100 less and Oxford will even be CE rated while Scorpion and Icon aren't rated but reasonably priced and still stylish.

And unless it's ce rated, meaning the company paid to have it tested, you have no idea if it protects you

My buddy who recently started riding fell for the NBT hype and bought every single piece of their gear. Lol As someone who's been riding, for going on 7 years now, the NBT hoodie is 100% worth keeping and is genuinely nice. The jeans are meh and should be 1/3 of what they cost. If you got them on steep sale not a huge loss but check out other brands and consider a return.

I think you misinterpreted what I said, or I maybe didn’t speak clearly. I wasn’t saying that’s how *I* view people who wear traditional gear, I was saying that from experience, the people in that age range or riding style don’t wear traditional gear because that’s how *they* perceive themselves, or fear *others* perceive them. For example, when I first started riding, I didn’t wear traditional gear cause I thought I didn’t “look cool” with it on, or I thought people would think I looked like a nerd. I’d rather “look cool” than be safe, especially at a time in life/age range where I still thought I was indestructible. Now that I’m older and can feel it in my bones when the rain is coming in because of all my previous injuries, I rock gear 😂 BUT lots of the people who are still in that age range/mentality, don’t rock gear at all because of how they perceive it. And I think NBT is helping to bridge that gap and help to make gear perceived as “cool” for the people who are still in that group. Hopefully that made sense!! Thanks for your perspective, and sorry for any confusion! 🤘🏻

He's not bashing. He's stating the opinion of the typical young rider.

Thanks so much!! 🙌🏻😭🙏🏻 Happy to have you here!

what does Yammy's bathwater taste like?

@@amatureskater15sorry you’re too busy sucking off life of Burch to not buy shitty products? Sorry your life revolves around RU-vid so much you think anybody questioning shitty products being shilled by somebody with literally the least experience in the moto RU-vid space is somehow supporting another RU-vidr and not just against idiots shilling products

This is an absurd hot take. You missed the entire point - which is, that some gear of some quality is better than no gear of no quality. As a 30 year old dude when I stared riding, I did not suffer the ego issue, and bought CE gear right away, researching ratings and ensuring I got the best protection. Point being, I agree with your criticism of "fashion" riding gear that isn't tested. But at no point would I say that the choice is "ride naked" or "ride in a full race suit" - that's fucking dumb, and you really oughta just pause for 5 secs, and think about how stupid that last sentence is on what's an otherwise reasonable point. For plenty of people, safety is not a concern, that's Burch's whole point - since we all pay for their hospital bills at the end of the day, if we can at least get them in jeans instead of shorts? It's a win. We can/should point out the deficiencies and false sense of safety that untested gear provides, it deserves to be called out. But, you're basically gatekeeping safety and that's fuckin' dumb. Imagine writing out "either buy a SNELL helmet or don't wear one" ...

What would you recommend for pants that meet those CE and A's ratings?

@@epiphany6 eh, I agree partially but also the complaint that you can’t afford gear yet you can afford a motorcycle that costs more than a decent set of gear is very very stupid. You own a 600-1000 and you can’t buy good gear? Beginner riders I understand, but why upgrade to a more dangerous machine without properly preparing yourself

never mind! found your video that you posted it thanks!

Ayyy my guy!! So stoked to hear things are going well for you! See you in the next livestream 🙌🏻😎🤘🏻

Dainese is having a big sale right now for cheaper than NBT see if they have your size still!

Lol I don't know if Yammie lost his partners or what but he hasn't even had actual gear for the past couple months. But even before that he had cheaper brands like Speed and Strength, think a few Scorpion helmets a handful of Joe Rocket, etc. nothing crazy fancy but at least reputable if not found cheaper on other sites. But screw Yammie the tool doesn't need anyone buying from him.

@@shauns5278 tells you when the last time I paid attention to him 😂

I can’t say for sure, but I’d imagine they will. NBT’s most recent straight leg pant that they just released comes in a 30, 32, or 34 inseam 🤘🏻

Thanks bro!! I try to stay out of the drama and the limelight lol but figured I should respond because NBT is genuinely the only reason I started wearing riding gear.

Yammie is a piece of crap but this video is doing a service. The best part of his crash was he set up a Go Fund Me for himself but not the guy in the Porsche! Who to this day is still partially paralyzed and was in FAR worse shape than Yammie!

~$200 after discount for pants with aramid lining for slide protection and CE level 1 in the knees/hips seems par for the course to me. But like I mentioned, the pants he reviewed were only $150, or $128 with a code, so hard to compare something that inexpensive to the stuff he was recommending at twice the price.

​@@LifeOfBurch Noru makes comparable Aramid panel jeans with armor for $70-80. Noru is a new brand but they're part of the Cortech umbrella of companies so have a couple decades of reputation backing them up. Aramid panels do not make pants worth $200. You seriously need to try some Knox, Merlin, RoadSkin or Alpinestars! Your mind will be blown!

Oh and sorry this has nothing to really do with the video.

Seriously this. There are so many cheap if not ECE rated brands. Noru, Cortech, Scorpion, Speed and Strength, Joe Rocket. Even if they're not ECE abrasion rated they're at least FULLY woven and not just lined in key areas with armor and can all be had for $150 and way less!

The uglybros pants that yammienoob has are lined with kevlar(actually aramid, not DuPont branded Kevlar in this case), the other 3 pants he showed were not, or he managed to hide all kevlar lining in the other pants. The uglybros are still overpriced in my opinion.

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Exactly! Much safer than normal clothes, but not as protective as leathers. I’m not gonna wear leathers when I take my Grom to buy coffee 😂 but I’ll wear this!

Yes but you can get actual ECE abrasion rated jeans and flannels for $100 less than NBT's stuff or non-ECE rated but fully woven jeans and flannels from brands such as Scorpion, Noru, Speed and Strength, etc. for 1/4 of the price. People shouldn't be saying "well NBT is at least better than squiding!" But instead show these squids other alternatives that are safer and FAR cheaper which makes them even more likely to buy the gear! Seriously Scorpion and Noru kill it on pricing!

The thing is likely when Yammie had ordered the pants was back during the massive winter clearance sale they had. They were selling the non-aramid jeans for around 60-70% off which stacked with their newsletter coupon. My friend ordered a pair for me and himself, one pair of the aramid for himself and the flannel. The non-Aramid jeans were a joke and those were the ones they were pushing in all the sales ads which I found super scummy, the flannel was also hot garbage. The Aramid jeans are "passable" but definitely not worth even $150 or whatever on sale they're seriously like $60-70 jeans. My friend already owned the NBT hoodie though and having compared it to similar riding hoodies that is the one nice piece of kit they sell.