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I dont know about you guys, but for us mechanics here in Germany the OCC was basically a comedy show on how to not build things. Its like watching bear grylls and expect to be a survivialist afterwards. Really you watch it because of how ridiculous it is. I remember one time when they built a military bike and one of them walked around with a box of random military gear that he started welding to where ever there was space on the bike. Absolut prime humor.
@@MotoDonuts I still liked the show. And you could learn something from it. There were some talented builders and some up to date technology in it. But as a concept, their bikes were mostly a joke. I believe they were fully aware of that though.
Came here to say that too. Once the video is made, running, ridden, dyno, sell it to him. It obviously means probably more to him than anyone other than the original owner. Seems like a cool guy to have around the channel too!
We all know it was meant to be. That neighbour is meant to have that bike after this video. Praise god, and his son that was sent to save us all Edit: grammar/spelling
I used to watch OCC with my dad years ago. He was a disabled Vietnam Vet, and he loved the POW-MIA bike. I bought him the dvd of that episode and bought him the small scale model of that bike. I noticed the 101st Airbourn flag in the background. I used to work in a shoppette on Ft. Campbell, Kentucky.
That your neighbor built part of this bike, is off the hook, CRAZY!!! I thought it was another one of your gags, until he started talking about it. WOW.
I could not agree more, Talk about luck. His neighbor saved him time and gave him valuable info. Plus new bike friend. Am I right? What a Wild World. This whole video was very interesting and fun.
@@James-zh4eo @GamingInfested How do you guys know? This is what I though at first, But he's not really the type of guy to make things up. He seems to be a God fearing man and truthful. IDK? maybe I need to watch this channel more. :-)
I had a buddy get a nice inheritance in 06, he ordered a bike from OCC, they said 8 months but took them 2 years...When he did get the bike It didn't make it 50 miles down the road. Then when he called to complain they ghosted him. He then had the bike towed mack to their shop they trespassed him immediately. Cops showed up and told my buddy they come out once a week for this very thing. "They sell a bike that doesn't run, person brings it back and they trespass them". He sued and they paid him extra for a NDA.
OCC wasn't really about bikes it was about selling advertising. A company like GEICO has a bike built for a 100k + and they got millions of views from the show. It was the cheapest advertising you could buy and it was genius on both OCCs part and GEICOs. Too bad OCCs bikes weren't as nicely built to run as they were cosmetically.
Race bike, It has a seat? Wow! so much luxury! :-) But for real. Imagine doing a burnout on that thing, It would throw rubber all over your back and head. Kind of like the old Greeves or Harleys, with oil on your back and in your hair.
Spent $10k and made a new life long friend. Give the bike to that guy and keep him on the channel. You’ve already broken even with the trailer, watch and views.
when my 1984 Honda vf500c wouldn't start without carb clean, and i removed the fuel pump and called the local Honda dealer and they said it doesn't have a fuel pump, and i bench tested it and it just smoked in my hand and its bad; they said it doesn't have a fuel pump and there is no listing for it. I bought an Edelbrock electric fed gravity pump and plumbed it up and it works just like the old one, and you can hear if its running or not with the key on.
A Las Vegas casino is suing OCC after a patron won the bike, then a few months later the engine fell off the frame and caused injuries. The patron sued the casino and won, and now the casino is suing OCC.
Sadly, companies getting sued is hardly an indictment of their liability anymore, especially in the US. People sue for all sorts and win, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It's a pathetic culture. However, I suspect it's probably justified in this circumstance...
@@cameronslater1857 Jay Leno even trashed out OCC on his RU-vid channel. Apparently Leno bought one of OCC's bikes, and immediately started having trouble with the electrical and transmission; Leno rides his motorcycles, drives his cars.., so he spotted the issues pretty quickly. Even former employees of OCC are going after Paul Sr for a variety of issues from refusing to pay wages, to making verbal threats over the telephone.
@@cameronslater1857I think the media did a better job convincing you people suing for nothing is a bigger problem than corporate greed. Seeing as you felt the need to say all that in response to something you claim to agree with.
@@jizzyb76 I think a five year old could do a better job of structuring a sentence than you just managed seeing as you felt the need to bump your gums. 👍
I was a young engineer when that show was on and I quickly took notice to how the OCC used to just build up the bikes based on looks alone, without any thought to ergonomics or whether it would be safe for the rider to be taking on an extended trip. Then I realized those bikes really were intended to be show pieces and not really taken out ever.
It was an hour long advertisement...those companies would have taken a signed wheel home ..theybdidnt care about getting a running motorcycle or a safe one
I am not a huge bike fan but I used to watch those clowns back in the day. This particular bike was one of my favorites of all time that they built. I would have loved to have that in a collection. Such a cool bike. Great video!
Always hated that show. The fights between the father and son were soul crushing. That they eventually had such a big fight they couldn't reconcile was obvious but painful nonetheless.
Hell that Rolex is probably worth more than the bike alone! (Edit: as pointed out, it’s an Edox, but I are dumb and was half awake watching the video 🤦🏼♂️)
Hell, the trailer alone is probably $3500 give/take so the bike itself is basically $6000 down ridiculously from the $100k that it originally sold from OCC for. OCC and the chopper craze was such a huge joke to serious riders.
Don't forget the cheap Swiss watch. That's no Rolex, that's for sure. I bet it keeps time though. I have a cheap Rodania from the '60s and it is as accurate as a digital watch. Loses a couple seconds a month.
@@Lurch-Bot The watch could maybe be worth around $800? They're about $1400 new, and that's a 'special version' but first of all those watches lose value immediately when you buy them, and the value of that Geico version can be lower or higher depending on someone being willing to pay less or more for that 'special Geico version'. The watch itself is an ordinary quartz trinket.
Fuel injectors would definitely need unblocking after years of bad fuel in them. I have used a 9v battery to activate and free up stuck injectors before. Works like a charm.
I had a similar experience. I bought a Modified 1975 Porsche 914 from a random dealer in Oregon. A few months later I was at a random gas station in California and met the initial owner that did the modifications. He told me all about the car and knew exactly everything about the car that only he would know. Moments like those are interesting...
Something happened to me like that too. I traded in my Evo X to a Honda dealership. Then they sold it about 2 weeks later. I had wheels that were on the car that I couldn't use anymore. So I sold them. When the guy came to pick the wheels up. It was my old Evo pulling up lol. Guy lived a state over . I gave the guy a bunch of stock parts I had laying around the garage that came off the car .
soon as you see one bad fuel line you have to assume that everything touched by fuel has degraded . Hoses , filters , pump , injectors . Honestly i would not trust those clutch lines either . It was super cool to see that guy seeing a bike he built so long ago . I've had this happen to me once , i helped a friend of mine build up a car for racing , he sold it , we never saw it and then i randomly found it 5 years later . Went to look for the owner , and it is just a great feeling man , like seeing an old friend . The car was not special , but the connection i had to it warmed my heart
@@mrmagoo916 no, this damage is from fuel left in the lines. Over time it breaks down and starts eating the rubber. Turns into a black slugde, clogs filters, injectors, carb jets. It's nasty stuff. Ethanol will do that as well, but it is far more likely to oxidize anything metal it touches since it pulls moisture from the air
lol at random "previous owners/builders" got an old FZR250. was using it for courier work. random guy runs up to me... "you still riding that thing!?" um...yeah? you know what it is? (lets say, i keep my bikes looking pretty damn rough... mad max style...) "yeah... i SOLD IT TO YOU!!!!" meh, during covid lockdowns, didnt realise who it was with the mask on... and as id only spoken to him for a minute or two anyway...
For street i found that it's easier to run relatively high compression while under driving the blower. Over 20k miles on that '64 pink ProStreet Corvette. Runs way cooler also.
My favorite OCC build was the Baskin Robbins, with its ice cream sandwich foot pegs, waffle cone hand grips, ice cream scoop shifter and the colorful sprinkles all over the sheet metal. That Paul Sr was a visionary.
HEy Sean when you saw the gum in the fuel lines, that is from C16 fuel all the injectors will be gummed up with that exact same stuff thats why the injector hose blew because the injector is fully clogged with C16. you can never leave C16 for any amount of time. it should be drained if you dont plan on using the bike for even a few days its that volatile I would take the tank off. clean it out make sure no gum got in the new fuel pump. then take off the fuel rail that will need cleaning and depending how the injection is set up will either have some hose to the injector or it will go straight into the manifold. clean head to tank mate Damn good find. how cool was that guy seeing his baby again. he obv loved that bike. and everytime you build big project bikes you leave parts of you in that bike. im sure hed love it back once you are done. or at the minim let him ride it and come visit
Yep as soon as you see that level of gum... you gotta replace everything fuel touches and clean out the tank. Should have been the plan from the beginning to be honest... but this kinda shows his level of experience with starting up old junk. Anyone that's pulled something old back from storage/barns/fields that wants to get it running has a pretty similar check list. That's nearly the top item.
I can only think this was for content? Like its pretty obvious everything to do with the fuel system is bad, so why keep trying to crank it when there is way more du-dilegence required?
I collect watches and as soon as I saw that box I knew what you were going to open that up and find you are one lucky man I'd rather have that watch than that bike God did bless you with this purchase
How lucky you are to have the guy who built it next door. I have loved the Orange county chopper show for years, but I didn't think half are rideable with the things that was built. I used VP in my 64 Nova drag racer, very nice. Love the kill switch, lol, until the clip falls off your show. I'm sure you can find a full pump at any bike shop. Nice watch at the end. On top part 2, ps, 50 years of rc boat racing, I would love to know what you plan to do with it. Thanks for the video. Now for part2
Great little vid there Glenn. The Mid is an exceptional build. Did full carbon on mine to. Do you need a longer belt for the LWB conversion do you know?
Half a video deserves Half a like! Your neighbor should have offered to help get the bike back into shape if he wants you to sell it to him. Since he didn't he's out! Lol!
The trailer and watch are worth more than the bike. What are you going to do with a 200HP Hardtail? One pothole and your spine's shattered before you hit the tarmac.
As Jeremy Clarkson famously said.... hand-built is a fancy way of saying that the door would fall off. But OCC and his car-butchering counterparts took it a whole new level.
This only shows how incompetent on driving people with driver's license are. It doesn't take in depth or even rudimentary knowledge on mechanics to realise that for example in this bike, the front for suspension has no chance of working at this angle it was put on.
Home-made and hand-made are two different things. How sad are we as a society that mass production is now seen as the pinnacle of quality? That being said, OCC is not quality. It's just expensive.
@@randyoehlert5045my father does auto body and restorations and has worked on 3 rolls Royce’s. They’re nice, but the hand built nature absolutes hurts the quality.
Why would anyone leave fuel in that thing? Very sad how people mistreat their engines. The whole fuel system is full of varnish and gelled fuel. It had no chance of running. I am amazed that they didn't stop and clean the entire fuel system before trying to crank it the first time.
@@mmeijer635it's like his comment that that hydraulic clutch was dangerous, hydraulic brakes are fine but not clutches?, today all vehicles have hydraulic brakes and many of them have hydraulic clutches, has he never had a clutch cable brake, such a stupid comment.
Yea, real mechanics know to drain fuel system. Check for dry rot hoses, check for rust in the tank, pull injectors and make sure their clear and change filter. Then put new fuel in and run fuel pump to see fuel coming out at the fuel rail. Know for sure it's ok, then if it don't start, only thing left is spark. Which is the other thing to check. Pull plugs, replace wires due to dry rot, then try to fire it up.
Their stuff looked cool for the time but i know a few guys who rode one and said it was a death trap. My buddy Ted said he got rolling on one he was going to buy and stopped before he shifted out of 1st because the front wheel geometry was so bad it scared him. He said the forks wanted to lay over and it was a huge fight to keep the wheel straight.
They are art pieces and that is really it. They handle like a semi truck and really are only good for a straight line and that's it. This geico bike is clearly a show bike only but theoretically could be used for drag racing. I want to get into making custom bikes but I want to make functional works of art that you would want to drive everyday and not just shelve. It does no good if nobody ever sees it and if you only ride it once.
One of my neighbors had one, he rode it once, then tried to sell it . . . first listed it at $80k. Every year he dropped it by $10k. He finally sold it fir $12k to a kid who didn't know any better.
What amazed me about the OCC TV show was how stupid and how little people knew about motorcycles but were prepared to spend 1\4 milion dollars on a bike that is basically a full size toy with no brakes. No speedometer. No rev counter. No ignition or even be able to ride the thing due to the geometry making it so unsafe. And less HP than many scooters.
Only because he figured he was gonna buy the bike after....period. Not the goodness of his heart. If Shawn said no way in hell to selling it, he'd have been on his own.
I'm from orange county NY and before these guys went commercial and started mass producing bikes, they had some very good very well built machines. Their downfall was going the route they did. They had so much respect for their builds before the gimmicks and shenanigans.
I still enjoyed their shows....these bikes are really art pieces more than bikes...the creative spirit of these bikes is what the whole point was....plus making money...LOL...
@@steves3688 yea people don't seem to understand that they decided they would make a lot of money creating advertising that had motorcycle components.....it was unfortunate that they had the personal drama that they did and that it was real, but there are a lot of people in the USA that have worked in family businesses that can relate to that as well.....especially ones that had a wild period of growth because of the opposing talents and drives of two different generations....that ended up having a lot of appeal and viewership too
That watch is no joke - Edox is a Swiss Watch brand over 100 years old. The translation is Master Watchmaker Les Genevez (where the company is based) since 1884. Not a bad grab to be included in the 10K as that watch could easilly cost 2-4K by itself.
You could see it in the builders eyes this ment so much to him! imagine seeing your baby return after so many years. This better have a wholesome ending please !
I'm so satisfied that people are calling these bikes out. The show was cool for the drama, but the bikes were never practical. Jay Leno was the man to just say no. He owns one I believe, but he just says no. Haha
After surgery, I was stuck watching them on TV. Like watching most shows of this type, they just prove how incompetent they are. As a retired professional automotive technician, my joy of watching these shows is finding all the bad decisions.
Holy cow this video has everything! Crusty, a mystery box, a Cavewoman’s bike, a boat, a collectors watch. And the odds being neighbors with the guy that had a hand in building a completely one off bike. I’m guessing that bike was a big tax write off originally lol.
They absolutely are, and they're generally paid for out of their advertising budgets. I know an acquaintance that lost a sizable drag racing sponsorship to a company that had a custom bike built for the TV show fairly early on, and he they were up front about how they were trying to widen their brand, so their advertising was going to try something different, plus there was no animosity apparent between them, so I tend to believe it .
@@ChuckChuckBoBuck i loved that show back in the day. I still may watch it occasionally and find clips on YT. IDK any other TV people that rose to fame so quickly and fell so hard in the end.
The first bike I rebuilt, was a 1973 cb750 sohc from a military guy in Virginia. After 10 years I sold it on ebay to a guy in Florida. By CHANCE! Sold it to the son of the guy I bought it from.
When you get a system like that you have to completely clean the entire fuel system from the tank all the way down to the injectors with a new fuel pump and filters and everything what a mess. Meaning gas tank comes off and gets power washed inside.
The company I worked for spent $400,000 for a Orange County Chopper advertising package. It was not worth it. We got a nice looking bike that wasn't even street legal. A few T-shirts, and 45 seconds on the program. We also gave them custom build spraybooth. We were promised advertising about our facility. When we complained we were told that OCC didn't have control of the program.. We spend a years worth of advertising for 45 seconds of them presenting the bike to our owner.
@@h.g.buddneI don't disagree. I finally quit that business even though I was the only electrical designer and programmer. Later he hired a young guy that restructured our pricing and company model and things went down fast. He wound up alienating our biggest customer.
On discovery channel? You got a good deal. Not a commercial, but a 45 second spot on a mainstream tv show? That’s great advertisement. No offense but you got your moneys worth.
@@kregadeth5562I don't agree. It's not even a tiny bit of what we were promised. The only mention of the company I worked for was them presenting the bike to the owner. Not a thing about the company itself or the custom spray booth we built for OCC. They originally told us they would include shots of them using the spray booth to paint the bike. We erected the booth in our shop and they filmed the painting. Then we moved the booth to their shop. Not one second of any of this was shown. We paid $400,000 and the bike was crap.
... definitely a huge diff when u build your own - I do just that - the pride every day when it comes time to fire n' do a ride - all the issues in the world vanish within those moments til the return back to the world re-awakening - and to perform the ritual thruout many years - absolutely priceless
So you think there's no chance these guys had never discussed this bike, or the fact this guy did work for OCC in the past, and fabricated this one in a million coincidence to make a more interesting video?
Jay Leno and a guest (can’t remember who), both have OCC’s and bashed just how shitty they are. They’re made so cheaply and just thrown together. The one example had everything electrically important, wired with the rear taillight.
@orangemanbad well that's not what Leno said. He paid for a custom bike, so he could ride it. That's not some Corporate Show bike as in this clip or for eg. The Gillette bike. Those are show bikes. And don't they show the bikes being riden by the Orange CC show people?
10G is a steal. If i had a used motorcycle dealership and could put this on my showroom, i'd do it in a heartbeat. And you got a nice watch and a good trailer! Even if it won't run right, as a piece of art, it's worth it.
lol ok i cant stop laughing and i love this so much!!!! the best part and the bit that got me laughing so hard is the jet ski clip for your boot!!!! lmfao that means there was a literal convo about flying off the back of the bike. and you know in that convo someone was like well cant we just build something to hold you on there and they all went nope wouldn't look good.......... just clip this to your leg when you will inevitably fly off the back!!! HAHAHA YES!!!! THAT IS THE TYPE OF MAN THAT BUILT AMERICA AND KEEPS HER FREE!!!!!
Edox watches are excellent pieces. They're known for their ability to keep accurate time even when the springs are losing tension. I'd keep it, it's worth a couple thousand on it's own.
I was stationed at the ANG base right on the other side of the fence from the new OCC facility for several years. When they had their 15 minutes, they went big. The facility was nice. Had their show bikes on display, a merch shop, a couple bowling lanes, and a bar and grill. 6 or 7 years ago, they sold the building and rented it back from the new owners. When I left in 2022, the building was abandoned and had a for sale sign in front of it. Not much of a market for 6-figure bikes that are barely rideable I guess.
I'm glad I got to visit before it left. It was pretty cool imo and got to see Sr in there and down the road we saw Jr's place but no Jr. We did however see a bunch of guys riding tricked out choppers so maybe we did end up seeing more people but didn't realize. My dad watched the show a lot and I still got my shirt from there
@@s1dew1nd3r4JR had opened his own shop directly across the street from their first shop about 15 min up the road. Think JR is now in NJ now and SR is in FL.
I rode a ridiculously customized Night Train show bike and it was the most uncomfortable ride in my life. I had back spasms with the far forward controls and drag bars. Super cool looking though.
Amen brother...its amazing how the real builder of the motor was your new neighbor..Im sure with some brainstorming and some liquid encouragement....All will be fine...
reminds me of a "custom drum shop" in my area that doesn't even make their own drum shells. Just paints the shells and attaches hardware... Quite a big following as well.
For anyone interested, Edox is a relatively small but respected family-owned Swiss watch maker. The case says "Watch manufacturer - Geneva since 1884".
Man, I used to think OCC was SO COOL back in the day! Watched Every episode. That story that your neighbor helped build it, is Insane! Just a ridiculous cool story! And, his info about the bike is super helpful!
Everyone did. Show was huge! Imagine all the merch sold on account of that tv show! All only to be called out 20yrs later for the shoddy quality. They appealed to the style of the times for sure.
@@geoffws6they had deadlines for the show and couldn’t finish things like they should and outsourced work off camera like this bike… pretty sad what hollywood and money does.
I was half expecting it to be cursed object, such that once it was in the shop getting serviced, everybody might start getting confrontational and throwing chairs around.
This channel and The Bearded Mechanic are by far favorite things to watch on yt. Thank you so much for being awesome regardless if it a 1k bike or a 15k one i love to watch this channel!
I saw one of their bikes at the Dayton Air Force museum and it was comical how cheap it looked. The wright flyer reproduction looked more professionally made.
I clicked on this thinking it wasn't going to be worth my time that it was just going to be some stupid thing. Then BAM!!! When the next door dude pops in saying he built it and told you EVERYTHING ... I WAS HOOKED!! INTRIGUING ASF!!! I was totally BLOWN AWAY!!! SWEET ASF VIDEO!!!!! I use to watch OCC often. Obviously I missed this episode on this particular chopper. You got a steal deal there👌🙂👍 great video!
My dad and my brother enjoyed the OCC show for many years, but I never actually believed those bikes could run for more than the straight stretch of service access roads they always showed them ride them on.
NOOOO! Gotta see the finale, lol. What a wild story. The guy next door, the gifts included in the trailer, the problems, lol. I half expected the box to hold another fuel pump, lol. Looking forward to the next installment. God bless!
I had a fuel pump on an outboard seize up with old fuel. I used a SeaFoam soak for about 1 hour and could work the impeller a bit and then it freed completely shortly after. It made me a believer in the SeaFoam and saved me an $800 fuel pump replacement. Cool video. Ulster County
buddy knows a guy who starts mothballed boats all winter for like $10 a month per boat. once a fuel pump sits and seizes up , its $500 for a replacement with labor so 10/mo is nothing for a boat owner. He does about 100 boats a month, just starts them up and lets them idle for a few minutes and shuts them down. He as yet to have a customer state the pump is out when they get it back in service.
@@houseofsolomon2440 the Bo Gulf disaster is a lil worse then having to keep ur fuels lines from clogging it's called run than motor fewinuts once a week . Make it a Sunday funday chore add to list and never had the issue u stated
They even cut pieces out of a frame because a gastank wouldn't fit after painting. Structural integrity is never tested. Maybe their normal custumor bikes are of better quality than their themed display bikes.
The OCC Dixie Chopper bike was built by a friend of mine and his dad in Indianapolis. They were friends with the people who owned or worked for Dixie Chopper.
This is the coolest video I’ve seen in a while, great bike, it’s amazing the neighbor saw the bike and had the personal connection with it. Keep rockin 🤙🏾
My favorite was the Snap-on bike OC built. They basically welded some wrenches, ratchets, saw blades, and screw drivers onto the bike. A 7 year old could come up with that idea. Total fail.
@@kingcosworth2643some people just want to believe. This guy knows what he’s doin and excels at it. Every fib is laced w/the right balance of supposedly being true while also being unbelievable, in order to spark an endless debate promoting activity to go toward reaching the endgoal; entertainment that makes money.
@@thomgizziz Yeah it's a small world. His shop is nearby, he's an Army veteran, and puts on several benefit rides for the community and has bike nights at his shop