Corrections/Updates/"Things I should've mentioned": - “Nairne Junction” is actually called "Gaol Junction", not "Nairne Junction". - The shorter of the bottom two sidings I mention at 4:13 is actually unelectrified and is only used to store track maintenance vehicles. It isn’t used to stable trains. The other 3 sidings however, are used to stable trains. - At 8:33 I also forget to mention that it is only possible to access Platforms 1-5 at Adelaide if you’re coming from Platforms 1 and 2 at Mile End (the Seaford Main). However, it is possible to switch over to the Belair tracks using the crossover at Mile End to access platforms 6-9 at Adelaide. - Another thing to mention at 7:07 is that trains on the Gawler line only stop at North Adelaide during peak hour. Outside of those times, all trains run express through there. If anymore corrections or "things to include" come up. I’ll add them to the list. and is
Interestingly, I caught a Belair train that ended up being routed into platform 1 at Adelaide just a couple weeks ago. Never seen it before, and this wasn't during peak times... not sure why that happened... Also, it's rare to see Outer Harbor trains routed to platform 9, they almost always get platforms 7 and 8, with Grange trains getting platform 9 almost exclusively
@LucyJrts wait it was the other way round. I got the grange from 9 and the OH was on 8. I don't know why just telling u what the Sunday night service was
Hi. An absolutely crap station stuck in the 1920's. If you work anywhere but the CBD you are a second class passenger. For years I had to swap trains in Adelaide to get to Osborne and you would be stuck in the yard (running late) waiting for an empty platform slot. The Osborne train was supposed to leave after the Seaford gets in but hardly ever did due to the lack of platforms (there used to be 13). This slot would appear as the train you wished to transfer to left Adelaide Station. Transfers between trains are not in their mindset. I asked the staff on several occasions and was told that there was no coordination for transfers between lines. Sadly, if I tried to make the same early morning journey today, it hasn't changed. Still a totally CBD orientated system. More than one train arrives at a time then a sea of people funnelled to one exit. Try walking against this flow to get to a train! New underground station needed (under King William street) with the southern lines running through to the northern lines. Adelaide needs a real modern city station, not a wee, old fashioned country town station. Use the building for apartments or something. Get rid of the rail yards for Torrens river parklands. Train to Melbourne - get off in the middle of the CBD at Southern Cross Station. Come to Adelaide - get of at a crappy platform in the middle of an isolated industrial estate. So unwelcoming. Tried to get on the "Rail Board" a couple of times but they only wanted re-enforcement of the status quo - happy CBD travellers, not dissenting opinions. Tried to contact a Transport Minister or put in formal complaints. Either no answer or the "of well, that's the way it is" answer. No vision for public transport by any SA government. Sad.
Just FYI about the Gaol loop, although the broad gauge connection was removed about 10 years prior due to electrification works on the Seaford Line, technically, the broad gauge Gaol loop still exists as they’ve left a section of track and sleepers and rails in place between Mile End and the north end of the Gaol loop. Apparently I personally don’t think anyone was that bothered enough to fully remove the broad gauge track for good because it’s still there, more than 10 years since it was cut
I know. I saw it when I was in Adelaide getting footage for the video. You can see it during one of the clips where I show footage of the Ghan coming around the loop. That's why I said the broad gauge track was "abandoned". It's unlikely it'll be reinstated (as there is no reason to now that the only broad gauge traffic in South Australia is suburban trains), so there's no reason not to rip it up. They could theoretically use it to duplicate the Gaol loop by converting that track to standard gauge...
I'd say your video is pretty good, mostly accurate and I dare say Adelaide Station is in need of a deadly serious amount of redevelopment including a restoration of platforms.
Something they should definitely do is reinstate some platforms, and provide standard gauge access (either through dual gauge, or by adding some dedicated standard gauge platforms), that way interstate trains can return to Adelaide Station. It's quite annoying that interstate trains depart from Keswick (Adelaide Parklands Terminal), as it's not easy to get to the centre of Adelaide from there. Glad you enjoyed the video!
* dates not accurate. Adelaide had public regional trains depart from ARS till approximately 2007. Some lines tho were not full time. E.g. barossa valley line was sunday only trial in 2003 until a date i didnt find. Roseworthy peterborough line and others had bluebirds run into ars until 1988 and 1995.
I never mentioned when South Australia axed their regional network. I only mentioned that regional trains were kicked out of Adelaide Station in 1984. Thanks for the information tho!
@@southaussiegarbo2054 Aaahhhh. Ok. When I mentioned regional and interstate trains, I was talking about passenger trains. Should've cleared that up. My bad. I am aware that there were goods trains that ran to places like Peterborough and the Barossa Valley well into the 2000s and 2010s.
@tekkies-transport ye. However bluebirds still ran to say burra and even mount gambier from adl railway till 1995 when lines either closed/became dormant due to service removal or were in some cases closed and converted to standerd gauge.... Its sad to think its how it went. However steamranger and a few others did take tranes to burra in 2007 as one off. Now tho that lines cutoff from admet line thru a fence that was erected at gawler river bridge during the gawler line electrification works.
1 bit of trivia is to note the strange gap between the Adelaie and Uni SA school of Health buildings. This is to allow a potential underground loop to break off from the junction, go between the two buildings and under North Terrace.
Wow. It kind of seemed odd that there‘s a gap there. I assumed it was there to make space for the island platforms. Kind of cool that they made a provision for that there. Good forward planning! Thanks for the interesting fact!
@@SormonAusPol I never knew that was the reason for the gap! Any idea what was planned for that line? An eastern suburbs line out towards Burnside, and Magill would be phenomenal to see
It may have been worth mentioning that trains only stop at North Adelaide during peak hour but otherwise great video. I wonder why that single crossover isnt electrified though
I'm pretty sure it used to be a line only used to access a since removed siding to the main depot and wasn't in use when electrification happened but was since reinstated for more flexibility for Belair services
Just out of interest, I'm led to believe that the South lines (Belair, Seaford etc) are called Main South and Main / South Suburban. Prior to electrification, the Belair Line was the Main South Line, with the Noarlunga (now Seaford) and Tinsley (now Flinders) known as Main Suburban or South Suburban. They still used the same platforms at Adelaide however Belair trains tended to use Platforms 1 and 2 more exclusively. When the Noarlunga Line was extended to Seaford and the Goodwood Underpass was constructed, the two lines were swapped over - Belair became the Suburban Line, and Seaford became the Main South. This also included the platforms used by the lines being swapped around, although it's worth pointing out that all the Seaford, Tonsley / Flinders and Belair Line platforms at Adelaide were electrified, and the Belair Line for some reason is electrified as far as Showgrounds or just before.
*PS As you correctly point out the Belair Line is electrified as far as Goodwood and there are crossovers before and after Showgrounds Station to allow Belair trains to cross to the Main South, and vice versa.
@@mitchellheard8981no their names are name after the terminus stations. Ie. Flinders, seaford etc. Although some old heads call the seaford line noarlunga since it was the old terminus
They were previously known as the Main South and South Suburban as well - there used to be a signal (might still be!) when leaving Adelaide that had an aspect showing either MS or SS.
1:07 the "train departures" and "ask the man in blue" structure and display image puzzles me. It looks a bit different from what I remember from the late 1950s to 1970s. It has a lot of regional pax trains... I don't remember that many being shown, but maybe because I wasn't looking for them. The bit that does get me... is where is the grange line display? The grange, then henley, then cut back to grange line is a very old but still operating line. On off peak times it was often a subset of the semaphore/ outer harbor line... bit it's not up there at all! Great work.
That image is an Adelaide Station departure board, which was on display at the National Rail Museum in Port Adelaide. I don’t know what year it’s from tho (pre-1970s probably). I never noticed that the Grange Line wasn’t on there. I’d say the reason is that Grange/Henley Beach might have just operated as a shuttle from Woodville at that time, which is why it might not have been showing on there. Bizzarre…
@@tekkies-transport Thanks for your reply. I think that only later night, and non peak weekend trains were "all change at woodville for grange".... The board is probably completely accurate with an explanation I can't think of.... but I did have a good natured giggle at the thought they might have forgotten dear ole grange.
Bro literally yesterday I was thinking about someone doing this type of video!!! I do have a few possible corrections and additions to add: - 8:28 You could also mention platforms 1&2 at Mile End can only access platforms 1-5 - The platform staggering is backwards (platform 1 is longest while 8 is shortest - 9 is slightly longer) - the shorter of the bottom sidings isn't electrified and is only used for maintenance vehicles besides that it was good 👍
Glad you enjoyed the video. First of all, I didn’t know the bottom siding was only used to stow maintenance vehicles. Secondly, whilst the Seaford Main lines can only access platforms 1-5. There is a crossover at Mile End, allowing Seaford trains to run on the Belair lines, which have access to the big crossovers at Nairne Junction. So it is technically possible to access the rest of the platforms from the Seaford line, but you just need to switch over to the Belair tracks to do it. Glad you enjoyed!
Only issue I see is the diagram of the Adelaide station. The platforms are the longest at platform 1 and get shorter as the get to platform 9 as the pedestrian access to the platforms are on a diagonal.
It's not to scale. The platforms are actually quite long. Platform 1 is definitely shorter than the rest, though. Adelaide also very rarely runs trains longer than 3-4 cars. I think the football trains on the Seaford and Gawler lines will have one or two six-car trains (2x 3 car sets) but most of the time, lines like Belair, Outer Harbour and Grange will run 2-car trains.
The most important thing was the track layout. Plus, at the time I made the diagram, I hadn’t been to Adelaide station since 2019, so I didn’t know how long each platform was.
Will Adelaide Metro ever fully electrify its heavy rail fleet? At this rate, it probably won't be done for another 30-odd years. Those 3000 and 3100 DMU's shouldn't have anymore than two decades left in them.
Id say less. To put it in perspective. Melbourne’s Comeng fleet started entering service in the early 1980s, which is about half a decade before the 3000 and 3100 class hit the rails in Adelaide. We are in the process of retiring the Comengs AT THE MOMENT. So by that estimation, you need to either find a replacement for the 3000 and 3100s to see out the next 10-30 years, or get on with electrification. So yeah you’ll need to get on with that before those railcars reach the end of their lives…
It's not a large network wouldn't be a long video. Surprised the SA government haven't even completely canned all train services. They hate anything that isn't a car
A lot of work was done to convert the Adelaide suburban system to standard gauge before the idea was dropped. Now there is a (what I would call) foolish idea to introduce gauge changing railcars to run outside the metropolitan area. I think the full conversion is a better idea.
yes because lets waste money on a totally.useless project in a time of scarce resources that adds nothing to running the system, speed or anything else . In fact is an inferior track gauge. Just so transit nerds can wet themselves over another project and collect stats and photos. Whats a new hospital or school needed when we have the excitement of moving a track a few inches for no reason.
@@xr6lad I understand your view, as the ramping problem and lack of medical facilities is the more important issue, but eventually going ahead with the gauge change is far from useless. It will make rail to Mount Barker and Murray Bridge much easier. Then after the system has extended to Aldinga, Tanunda, and Mount Barker, a second line could bring services out to Virginia, Two Wells, and Mallala. All these long term projects will greatly help with traffic flow and affordable housing. Broad gauge is the better system, but Australia can't change in that direction, and we will all be better off with an integrated rail system.
Wow…very informative …like you l’m from Vic but l like Adelaide and l do visit a few times a year and always use their public transport…well done!………if any Adelaide people are watching….did he pronounce Bowden correctly?😂
I’m 95% sure my pronunciation is correct, as the onboard announcements pronounce Bowden the same way I did. I could be wrong tho. It’s not like onboard announcements can’t pronounce station names wrong… (looking at you Reservoir). Glad you enjoyed the video and found it informative!
Just letting you know that the junction at the far end of the station is Gaol Junction not Nairne Junction. Otherwise good video and keep up the good work mate.
Really! I didn’t know it was called Gaol Junction. The track diagram I looked at for the video referred to it as Nairne Junction (named after the town of Nairne in the Adelaide Hills, which briefly served as the terminus of the Adelaide-Wolseley line). Interesting to know. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@tekkies-transportdon't know where you got that info. The mt barker junction in the hills is near Nairne but a junction would be named after geographical locations and Nairne is no where near the city
While the map of adelaide station and its close surroundings havent been detailedly mapped for videoformat by others and it being written to indicate origin of the material , idd still recomend putting a small amount of info of possible inspiration just in the unlikely case Otherwise very nice video
I put a link to the line diagram I used to draw out the track layout for the diagram I used in this video. The link is in the description. Glad you enjoyed the video!
This station and the rail network in SA is an embarrassment and an indictment on the failures of the SA government to care about public transport. Welcome to SA where if you dont drive a car we dont care about you!
Flinders st station is so ugly compared to Adelaide station. Flinders st is literally a dogs breakfast of architecture that doesn’t even make sense. Just the colours of flinders street is so out of place. Adelaide station is architecturally beautiful built of Adelaide natural sandstone and there for doesn’t need paint
I beg to differ. Flinders Street is a beautiful station. The station building is extremely historic, and is an iconic local landmark. The building at Adelaide Station is pretty nice too, but Flinders Street is just much more iconic.
