Some more reading/watching on this topic: Marcus Wong post about the wider network changes being de-scoped: wongm.com/2022/11/wider-network-enhancements-and-the-metro-tunnel-project/ Melbourne On Transit blog about off-peak frequencies: melbourneontransit.blogspot.com/2024/02/un-169-maximum-waits-versus-line.html Philip Mallis video about tram changes happening with the Metro Tunnel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GJyVAPNV5fY.htmlsi=1PoHbte5qfsMHr6Y The Big Build site I referenced: bigbuild.vic.gov.au/projects/metro-tunnel/about/overview/benefits-for-your-train-line Enjoy the video? Consider supporting the channel on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Taitset
I travel between Providence and Sydney every year, and always visit Melbourne, too. A cool new rail connection between Providence and Melbourne is certainly going to make the XPT to Sydney look really crappy. 😏
As someone who currently commutes on the Pakenham line to Southern Cross (since I work about 200m up the road on Bourke Street), the Metro tunnel will cause me to have no direct connection and I'd have to transfer at Caufield or Flinders Street/Town Hall. However excluding my little annoyance about that, the benefits for the rest of the network are great in my opinion and should give the rest of the network, especially Southern Cross, Flinders Street, Richmond and South Yarra more flexibility. Will be nice for people needing to go on the Sandringham line to finally be able to get a train at Southern Cross for example rather than having to get a train one stop to Flinders Street to change or get a tram.
Very excited for the new tunnel, but as someone who commutes to Richmond from Carnegie I am going to miss jumping on a train and only having 2 stops between home and work
I agree. I am commencing my first year of university this year at RMIT and will be catching one train from Carnegie to Melbourne Central and vice versa. Hopefully I’ll have my driver’s licence by the time the project is completed so I can just drive to Caulfield station.
Ideally, all Frankston trains should be Express to Caulfield. Run a shuttle between Richmond and Caulfield for the smaller stations to enable better times for the longer distance Frankston trains.
@@Wdeane1957 A shuttle would just destroy the scheduling and timing of the line though because you'd have to somehow fit it in between all those express trains
@SnaccDaddyy yes, its probably too late now, but if there was a way to run all express trains on one pair of tracks and all the shuttles on another it woukd work. The express trains could run a few minutes apart and not get held up by shuttle trains on the same track. Many years ago this was often done with Frankston and Dandenong express trains sharing the outer tracks and stopping all stations trains on the inner tracks.
Great video! It’ll be interesting to see if the Dandenong lines will go to Richmond or not when things like the footy are on. Also while it’s not metro tunnel related, I believe once it opens the plan is to run Glen Waverley trains straight to and from flinders street at all times which would lead to a slight capacity increase for the Burnley loop.
Yes, I was wondering exactly the same thing re services coming in from Pak/Cranny when the big games are on at the G. Will they still have the ability to run them the old way via Sth Yarra & Richmond? Otherwise you may get 1000s of punters trying to swap at Caulfield to already full trains from Frankston. It's either swap, or make the annoying swap at Town Hall to a train/tram heading back out. Hope they've thought this through.
@@ryangibbins8196yes, they will have the ability to run Dandenong trains to Richmond as that's how the V-line trains will run. The metro tunnel lines and Dandenong lines through South Yarra join just after South Yarra on the bend to Hawksburn.
I wonder what will be built first, The electification to Wyndam Vale or the Melbounre airport Link. Because Wyndam Vale would either need to join the northen group of trains, or branch off the Sunbury line and go through the tunnel which would only work if the Airport rail isnt built.
Thanks for the information. It appears that those who created the entire metro system totally unaware of how it has been constructed in European cities.
It's important to clarify that this system is called Metro, but isn't a Metro. It's a main line suburban railway network, and the 'Metro Tunnel' is functipnally more similar to the RER tunnels in Paris.
I'm still genuinely confused how the high frequency of the Werribee/Altona/Williamstown group will even work with Sandringham. Werribee alone has 10 minute frequencies at peak, and it doesn't drop off as much in off peak as some other lines do either.
Another comment stated that Glen Waverley services were going to run direct to Flinders St. Perhaps there's scope for through running, although it may be tricky with junctions.
I imagine not every Newport group train will connect to Sandringham. Maybe only half will and the other half terminate at Flinders depending on frequency
I really think they should have modified the Upfield line to connect to Arden station. Melbourne really don't have great lateral connections - everything runs through the city and doesn't interconnect much without getting on a bus.
I don’t know why the new line needed to go through the CBD. I reckon it would have been good to make it go north from South Yarra or further out and swing around to the new stations in Parkville. Could have been a more central and less expensive loop than the really huge one that may never get built.
it would probably be quicker as a lot of the track past South Yarra has a lot of crossovers and you can't go very fast over them, whereas the Metro Tunnel has no crossovers. if you want to go via the tunnel though you'll need to interchange with a Pakenham or Cranbourne line service at Caufield since the Frankston line won't go through the tunnel
It's called ATO (automatic train operation). There's still a driver, but they only perform a minimal role while the ATO is active, and the ATO controls acceleration/deceleration.
Would Flemmington event services continue to use the cross-city tracks from Flinders St to Southern Cross, North Melbourne and Flemmington? For modest sized events the Flemmington services terminate Southern Cross, with no direct connection with Metro tunnel. Using the new capacity on the Northern Group loop would provide more connections.
That's a limitation of the single track between Eltham and Hurstbridge, nothing that happens in the city will change that. 10 mins is possible from Eltham, but the current timetable really doesn't make the most of that.
Not at this stage, no. There is provision to extend the HCMTs from 7 to 10 cars, but I don't think that's happening any time soon. All the other trains can't practically be extended beyond 6 cars.
these tunnels enable that possibility. and have you not seen the works for the new station at Keilor East and the construction for the flyover at Albion?
I had no idea there was a single track section on the Upfield line. As a frequent user of this line during off peak hours, I am gobsmacked they haven’t already duplicated it and are trying to tell us that Metro Tunnel will fix the frequency issues.
I don't see why they don't just do it already. There's room down of Gowrie for the second track. Even if it's only duplicating to short of Upfield and terminating everything into the one platform. Probably was part of the original scope but got descoped early on by MTM to save money. Upfield should already be a 2 platform station with a 3rd platform and connection through the old Somerton alignment to Cragieburn. But given they'd lose the stabling I doubt MTM sees it that way
I was discussing the storm the other day and how several lines were down, that got me to raising a question about the Upfield line, the two people I was discussing with me did. It even know what/where upfield was. Maybe that’s why it is single tracked
That missing bit of duplication limits frequency on the line to 20mins, which is a real brake on demand. If you just miss a train at Coburg it it’s quicker to skip over to Sydney Rd and catch a tram.
@@Falkirion It's been pushed into the relatively cheaper City Loop Reconfiguration in Infrastructure Victoria's docs, alongside the restoration of the Somerton link and extension to Wallan. Hopefully government brings it up next election, it's a much cheaper megaproject than others.
@@Falkirion "Probably was part of the original scope but got descoped early on by MTM to save money." Nope. The government decides these things, not MTM.
Great deep dive Martin, this made a lot of sense even to someone who isn't from Melbourne. Really excited for this to open! I'll have to visit Melbourne when it does. Oh, and bring on better off-peak services for Melbourne 💪💪
@@BryanLikesCandy Seconded! I want a bridge to Indonesia and a trans-asian railroad all the way through eastern Siberia, a bridge across to Alaska, then all the way through Canada or the US to my choice of east coast, texas (for the people, not the place) or west coast! but a train ferry will do XD as long as i don't have to get off the train, i'll happily do the 100km Torres Strait on a boat
@@shraka oh, no, Vlocities don't go nearly fast or long enough, if its going around the pacific, Japan is the obvious option for an experienced and reliable operator, not to mention, double the speed.
I’m deeply saddened that these trains won’t run through South Kensington. Undoubtedly the most important station in all of Melbourne, thanks to its wide platforms and scenic views. Absolute disgrace 😡.
Just imagine if they had kept Waverley Park for the footy fans in the Dandenong and Gippsland region. Two football grounds in the inner city and one that held over 70,000 in the centre of outer south and eastern suburbs is gone. All to sell the idea of Docklands that barely holds more than 50,000 and would be no fun to have to travel out to Dandenong or Gippsland on Thursday or Friday night matches in the coming years. Pity they never built some new stations near Monash Uni, Waverley Gardens and Waverley Park in past decades,
Great video Martin. Really looking forward my fist ride through this. re ANZAC Station & St Kilda Rd trams - currently in the evening peak it is impossible to actually board and the trams often don’t even stop due to overcrowding. At Flinders st the tram basically empties. Even if only half of the passengers switched to ANZAC Station there would be a significant improvement to actually service.
I really like the wood roof on the Anzac tram stop. It really is quite beautiful. However what it doesn't do is provide one iota of protection from the sun, rain, hail or wind. I got there one day and it took ages to find any shade. Actually bus/tram shelters might be an interesting topic. I have always hated newer Melbourne shelters.
@@RJM56 It will help, but I'm not sure a whole lot in quite a few situations. I mean they simply could have lowered it and provided a lot more cover. There also appears to be no cover if you wait at the outbound end. Just those appalling glass shelters that provide almost no protection from anything too.
Although planned to open in 2025 it's highly likely it'll be in last quarter of 2024. I base this comment on the fact that prospective Metro Tunnel employees were notified they are required to commence from April to (at the latest) September 2024
The platform is out of use because they cant fit a fence between the central siding track and the platform track. If people are allowed to access platform 1, there will be nothing stopping people accessing parked trains and graffitiing them. Theres not enough storage on sandringham line to allow a siding to be removed to add a fence
I tell you as a UniMelb student Parkville station is gonna be a game changer. I fear we are the burden on the trams a lot of the time; we all ride to Flinders and then get on a tram. But I can easily see myself changing to the metro tunnel and training it. Maybe I'm overestimating our presence but I hope I'm right 🙏
Depends how far you have to walk to access the train platform versus the tram stop (and same getting off at the other end), and how long you have to wait for a train versus the very frequent tram service. If you live on the Sunbury or Dandy lines the train will be useful, for everybody else the tram will be the best option.
Pretty unusual that trains will bypass South Yarra entirely, voiding a connection for passengers heading up to Melbourne to interchange there to go towards Sandringham, at the very least they should’ve added an interchange station there. Now you have to use a train that came from Frankston to go up to Melbourne to access Richmond and South Yarra, no doubt a hassle.
admittedly I was sceptical about changes to the Pakenham line, particularly losing direct access to the loop, but I can see how the changes could make PT much easier and frequent for daily users. Awesome video 👍
In addition to the Airport rail (yes, if it ever gets built), I would however argue that the already existing Melton Line be electrified and go through the tunnel to make it an even split of services. - It's 25km of electrification on already existing tracks (no overhaul of infrastructure required), - It's one of, if not, THE fastest growing corridor in Victoria with a huge catchment - The communities out there are dying for faster, frequent and reliable services. V/Line at the moment is making that very difficult. - There's room to expand the catchment with new stations at Thornhill Park and Mt Atkinson. The oversight is so surprising, since the opportunity is right there, and I think a large part can be attributed to politics. Labor haven't needed to think about it because they win out west easily every time. But if the opposition made an election promise to deliver it, it would get the ball rolling a lot faster than the time it will take to plan, build and construct the Airport line.
I think the capacity increase on the northern group is still pretty realistic. The split entrance to the city loop tunnel means that there are now no conflicting moves at all for suburban trains at North Melbourne (currently some craigieburn and all upfield trains split at a flat junction on the north side). This will mean extra craigieburn services will no longer need to use the cross city group to leave the city, removing one of the flat junctions on that line. Upfield trains can also terminate using a crossover at batman station. Little things can make a big difference
that's a nice idea and would make a difference to some of the line but i would have thought the upfield line would be to short to justify that and anyways wouldn't track duplication be a better long term solution?
People who currently interchange between Craigieburn/Upfield lines and Sunbury line at North Melbourne station will be left out. This group of people are by far the biggest loser from the Metro Tunnel project. Craigieburn/Upfield lines passengers who go to Parkville will need to travel to Melbourne Central first before heading back up to Parkville if they want to use the Metro Tunnel. Time saving is limited and they may well continue taking the shuttle bus at North Melbourne station.
Sadly yes this is a downside. Craigieburn and upfield passengers now have to go to state library or town hall to swap to Sunbury. (although there's always plenty of buses and a trams that could help depend on exactly what you're trying to do
Great Video! When the footy (or any big event) is on at the MCG hopefully they can bring special trains that stop at Richmond (and South Yarra) platforms 5/6. Considering it is express between Caulfield and South Yarra, Pakenham/Cranbourne trains could share the tracks with the trains that are using Metro Tunnel. Otherwise Caulfield will be overwhelmed with commuters from the Pakenham/Cranbourne lines.
@@SYDTrainsFilms Yes, nothing stopping it physically, but there's a blanket ban on wooden cars running on underground lines in Victoria, which is why you won't see it in the CIty Loop either (they did run in there for a short time after it opened, and on tours, but not in the last 20 years). It would also need to be fitted with CBTC, which is pretty unlikely at this stage!
5:49 extra flexibility is only 1 concern; switches, track, signalling, and OLE all cost money, have to be maintained and are a significant source of faults and disruption. The international experience from countries that have much better rail operations (Japan, Switzerland, Holland) shows removing all switches and signalling practically possible and completely segregating tracks from one another is definitely the way to go.
I couldn’t find any subtle background messages in this one 😜 I hope they keep Platform 12/13 at Flinders St, it makes sense to have that usable capacity on hand in the event of disruptions or special events to warrant their use.
Capacity was measured in passenger numbers not rail capacity was it not? Great video, thanks. Also love the MS Paint trains going around the loop ending upside down.
So that means if im going to the footy at the MCG I'll have to change trains at Caulfield. Are they going to have trains stop at Hawksburn so we can change there instead of Caulfield.
How about connecting the Frankston line with the Cragieburn line, going from Richmond to North Melbourne via a pair of city loop tunnels, as indicated in the (now decade old) PTV network development plan? I still really like the idea and hope we will eventually have a number of distinctly separated lines that go from one side of the city to the other with slightly different routes through the CBD.
Thank you so much for the explainer. This was the clearest I’ve seen so far!! Well done! South Yarra is a hugely missed opportunity. Given that was passed on, at the very least the PTV could now stop the trains at the four local stations which they currently express through between South Yarra and Caulfield to allow local passengers at those stations to use this new service. Each has four platforms. It seems a completely inexpensive option to just stop the new metro trains at existing platforms given there is no logical transfer at South Yarra (as there is at Footscray). Also with level crossings everywhere and without any level crossing removals at all, Sandringham Line can’t have too much increase in volume of trains otherwise the traffic won’t move!!
Missing a South Yarra interchange is frankly criminal. Is it political? High rise residential everywhere, entertainment precinct, Sandringham rail line, Toorak Rd and Chapel St trams, buses. And it seems Caulfield interchange will remain lengthy and complicated. Reaching Richmond - for the MCG, tennis centre and other sports will be via a change at Flinders St. Indirect and slow.
I'm glad to see you've done a detailed video about the Metro Tunnel and how it will change the Melbourne rail network (at least with what we know thus far). Great overview. I'm a bit disappointed that some sections of track won't be used by regular passenger trains anymore though, as I don't think there is anywhere else in Melbourne where this is the case, but correct me if I'm wrong. I'm also disappointed there will be no direct connection with South Yarra, as anyone wanting to change to a Sandringham or Burnley group train will have to change trains twice, making their journey time much longer than necessary in my opinion. Some people may say you can just continue to Town Hall or State Library and change there, but again this adds more time than should be required. It just seems like such a wasted opportunity to me. Also, I assume the Frankston line will continue running at a ten minute frequency through the Loop? Otherwise, that could severely reduce service frequency through the Caulfield tunnel. And do you know what the situation will be with V/Line services when the tunnel opens and there are more frequent, "turn up and go" suburban services between Pakenham/Cranbourne and Sunbury? I mean, how will they allow the V/Line trains enough room to run between suburban services if they're running pretty much every few minutes, especially during peak times? Interested to hear your thoughts. EDIT: I'm also interested in how station announcements will work (both in the tunnel and on the existing above ground sections), whether they'll be the same as they are now, or different like on the Sydney Metro.
I can't think of any extended sections of track in the suburban area which currently see no trains, best example is probably the ramp down into the Caulfield loop from the Frankston line - which of course will change to the other ramp shortly. I imagine Frankston will operate a similar frequency through the loop as Dandenong does currently. It's certainly going to get harder for V/line to get paths, but also, we don't actually know what the maximum frequency is going to be at this stage - they keep saying 'turn up and go,' but that doesn't actually mean much and it may just mean 10 minutes - which I would argue certainly isn't 'turn up and go.' Not sure about announcements, but my guess is they will continue to use the current format.
@@Taitset Thanks for your response. I appreciate it. I will be interested to see what happens from here on in and what information we receive later down the track (pun intended).
I know the answer as to why it’s already ‘money’, but duplicating and extending the upfield line is painfully overdue. Trams are super crowded throughout large chunks of day and night, and are less reliable after Moreland road Some of the car traffic north of bell street could clearly be redirected if we just had trains every 10 minutes at peak times Plus the outer north of Melbourne is seeing a mass of housing estates development and change that will need to connect to line sooner or later, lest we get yet another Melton situation on our hands 🙄
10/10! The video was most informative and free from bias which was very refreshing and thoroughly enjoyable to watch. However, I am not so convinced the Metro Tunnel will benefit anyone. (Happy to be corrected!) The project causes an inconvenience to Sunbury/ Cranbourne/ Pakenham Lines if they wish to travel to South Yarra, Parliament, Flagstaff or Southern Cross. Having Town Hall and State Library stations in the immediate area of existing stations seems ill conceived. Anzac station is below a busy tram corridor. In addition to that, the figures on the project website appear to have come from a crystal ball.....I`m unable to provide any recommendations for improvement as I do not know the existing network well enough. I understand people will disagree, which is fine! However, I suggest they think about how much money the government has sunk into the project and if it will have a long-term benefit for commuters, as most lines remain mostly unchanged at a glance...
the main reason for putting Town Hall and State Library right next to existing stations is not just for easy interchanges, but also to free up capacity on Swanston Street trams, which is the busiest tram corridor in the world. they can get very busy at times, and if there is instead a train that will take you north-south across the CBD quicker, then why not catch the train? this is also probably the case for Anzac, although Anzac is designed to be a direct tram-train interchange (the first of its kind in the city), so CranPak passengers can get on a tram and reach more areas towards the south like St Kilda I don't think the Metro Tunnel will have much of an effect on anything other than a bit of extra capacity, which is of course good because Melbourne is growing in population at a rapid pace, but this will likely change once the City Loop Reconfiguration comes along
Maybe trains and trams are meant to act as a team. It would be easy to jump off a train and onto a tram to access southern cross, flag staff or parliament. The key will be in how much frequently trains run.
5:19 I think something about this Werribee and Williamstown lines having a 24% increase in peak capacity is that the Werribee and Williamstown lines may be able to implement some half-hourly frequency services starting in Werribee and using the express tracks to Newport and then using the northern loop with the extra capacity being utilised so that the maximum capacity can be used on the Werribee and Williamstown lines. Just an idea.
I understand the difficulties with geography etc as the main reason for not having underground platforms at South Yarra, but I can't help but think that this will be a big miss down the line (pun intended). If you live between Caulfield and South Yarra and need to access the tunnel, you're a bit stuck.
I do wonder if Melbourne will see a similar effect as London did with Crossrail (the now awkwardly named “Elizabeth Line”) XR was supposed to provide relief to the Central Line, however that hasn’t really happened. Instead we’ve seen new trips that wouldn’t have been made being made due to the new service and increased capacity and loading on the central line (after adjusting for recent health crisis’) hasn’t really decreased as promised.
I still feel they should have just kept tunnelling to Caufield, especially since by bypassing S. Yarra that's functionally how the Dandenong lines will operate in regular service. It would have provided a "free" track amplification from the City to Caulfield for more capacity, and made it easier to rebuild Caulfield for a better interchange. If I remember correctly the long term strategic plan for the network called for additional tracks to Caulfield and Dandenong anyway. And since I'm already being a downer abyway, Sunshine would've been a much better mid-terminus in the West too. But overall glad to see the project nearing completion. 🎉
As a Belgrave/Lilydale line user, thanks for being the first to tell me that this means nothing to me. i suspected this was the case, despite various announcements and websites telling me otherwise.
I find it bazaar that the Cranbourne & Pakenham lines will no longer have any access to Flinders street/South Yarra/Richmond. This means that every person on one of these lines wanting to access the MCG, AAMI Park and that whole area will need to change to a Frankston line at Caulfield, which then means that Caulfield will be an absolute nightmare !
That's true but there's still the issue of bypassing Richmond station and in particular the sporting stadiums, it will really make Caulfield station a complete mess.
So that would mean that sunbury line trains won't go through flinders or southern cross? which will mean changing trains if I need to get to either of those?
Wait a minute I just noticed the "I SUBSRIBED to TAITSET! And now I am cool even though I drive this s**t car" face censor at 9:01. Thats a good one lol.
I was a member of the station staff at Museum station when it was first opened for train services in 1981, there was a lot of fuss and excitement over the event, looking back at it now it was such a simple and naive time in comparison to today.
I'm skeptical that the tunnel going directly under the Swanston Street tram corridor will free up much tram capacity because while the trams are part of the free tram zone, the trains will still be ticketed, right?
Hopefully at North Melbourne they introduce cross platform transfers for each way around the city loop! If I can’t make the two minute transfer from Platform 1 to Platform 5 to get to Southern Cross (usually because the Upfield train was delayed), then it adds an extra 20-30 minutes to my trip! If they could use 2/3 and 4/5 for each direction around the loop then it would make it so much more flexible. My trip from Flemington Bridge to St Kilda can take less than 30 minutes, or over an hour… Well, I gotta go make that connection in 15 minutes!
I don't hold much hope for platforms 12 and 13, even though lack of platforms at Flinders Street is often a bottleneck. Platform 14 was abolished, removing redundancy for the clifton hill group.
Given the Upfield line will be closed for around 18 months from early 2025 to allow for 8 x LX removals the capacity increase won't happen until at least 2027.
As a frequent sports attendee, hopefully there are quick and easy connections to Olympic Park/MCG now Richmond is out of the picture for Pakenham lines.
Re: Upfield Line - I believe the plan is to use the crossover at Batman, so the inner stations will get a base services of every 10 minutes (and greater during peak), with the outer stations on the line to still have an every 20 minutes service. Also, the Burnley and Northern Groups will have a fixed city loop direction. Clockwise for Burnley, but unsure of direction for the Northern (most likely clockwise).
Every 10 minutes would be great. With it currently every 20-30 minutes when I need to catch it to get to work, it’s often faster to get the tram into the city than waiting for the next train!
When the Frankston line returns to the city loop it should keep the anti clockwise direction, e.g from Richmond to Parliament at all times for simplicity and consistency. This will allow a quick trip from Richmond to the city loop stations at all times. We should have two at all times clockwise loops (probably Burnley and Clifton Hill) and two at all times anti clockwise loops (Caulfield and Northern). This will make travel through the city loop much simpler and making connections between all city loop stations easier at all times.
I imagine many commuters will want to switch between Dandenong and Frankston lines notionally at Caulfield, but it is disappointing and rather short sighted that cross platform transfers could not be built at either Caulfield, Malvern or Hawksburn, for both directions. A good example of this is the Singapore red and green lines at City Hall and Raffles Place. It would need 2 stations and a crossover as built for the Loop between portals and Richmond all those years back. & while Sth Yarra may have been "controversial" for those living near that station, it made no sense financially for the main game of the new tunnel. Sth Yarra is already incredibly well served for transport options to the city.
At Caulfield they could remove the barrier gates and just have Myki readers on poles as at most stations. Then passengers changing trains can easily move between platforms.
Not sure if i missed it in the video, but if the cranbourne/Pakenham lines will leave the loop will that tunnel return to the midday direction changing antics?
The Grand Prix could be benefited by the tunnel, a second option instead of packed trams during the event running through st kilda down to Albert parks eastern side??
After visiting Melbourne recently I can see some major value for the metro tunnel for those who would otherwise take the tram *through* the city. I was only in the city for a few days and there were quite a few times when it would have been useful for saving time. I could also see the transfer point at ANZAC having the potential to relieve the Federation Square tram stop as a transfer point from train to trams since some people may wish to transfer to trains to trams (and vice versa) at a less busy - and more conveniently designed - point as ANZAC will be.
This new line will make me trying to get a job at RCH easier, as I can finally take a train in and not stress about having to drive and pay for expensive parking!
Hey so I have a question what about south Yarra old platform 5/6 will it be a Gippsland stop for inter change for the sandringham line or it will just skip or make a new severs for Caulfield for a express or it will remove the 5/6
I don't think anything will stop there, it will just be Gippsland trains running through. It's possible if there is a disruption in the tunnel Dandenong trains will come in and terminate there though.
