Adept Colossus, King of the Body Armor Hill? Beyond Level IV/RF3 

Git you summ!!!🤘

It's about as thick as stacking a steel plate under a level 4 ceramic. . . .

@@entitycreations but how much would that weigh together ? This plate is 6# alone, the combo would easily come in around 10 # tough to lug around

@@entitycreations the consideration is weight not thickness

@@marcusborderlands6177 For concealability thickness is important

Anti tank is anti tank i guess But it's still crazy that our personal body armor is getting to those levels

.223 Rem 35 Grain NTX @ Eyes, Pelvic Girdle, or Femur. Armor is over rated. Hope this helps.

Would it have still penetrated on a new plate though?

@@jaypee389 Its about most likely hit area at a distance which is in the body's core. dont be dense, no one is saying armor makes you completely invincible.

@@atranimecs Mexico and Iraq showed me this. *On youtube in minecraft. Better to have a chrome lined HBAR M4 with 2000 NTX rounds then 200 rounds of M993.

id like to see it tested with some tungsten 7mm rem mag ammo. saw some that was 176 grain at 3450 fps. i bet that would deform it horribly or poke through

I thought M993 is 7.62 nato. Am I missing something? I thought the other rounds were 300 win chad 😂

M993 is the bullet type/military designation It can be loaded in .300 win mag too Or .300 blk, I suppose M993 is *meant* for 7.62x51, and normally loaded in that, but being loaded in .300 win mag still makes the bullet m993

@@christopherjackson5829 300 win mag uses same bullets as 7.62x51 but different case.

Thankyou so much for quick education boys, learn something new every day 👍

Thank you very much!

Speed cracks and momentum widens that gap.

Almost always the limitation isn't the action, but the case head.

Bro what did that 7.62 feel like!?

@@Jonnyblacknell Imagine getting hit in the plate by someone swinging a sledgehammer at you. It will take you right off of your feet. You also get a huge nasty contusion at the point of impact.

@@scipher99 crazy man, thanks for your service from the UK!

@@Jonnyblacknell Thank you for that.

Thank you for serving, and welcome home brother

I just pretend to be one on camera :D

@@BuffRANGE I always said the best scientists are citizen scientists! Passion for your art and study of what you are interested in can often be JUST AS if not more important and valuable to the community than corporate interests and glory-hound ph.D’s . Seen it a lot my self in the biochem community. Garage biohackers while they don’t drive the industry, offer critical feedback through their tinkering . Thank you for sharing your knowledge, another aspect that many corporate scientists are prevented from doing due to copying by foreign governments and competition!

​@@chupacabra304 some of the greatest scientific discoveries ever made have been by amateur citizen scientists. Unfortunately these days we're looked at with suspicion by people who don't understand what we do.

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 preach brœthr ✊🏽

They said about 500 yards. I could make that happen. But I knw Oxide talked about wanting to do it. So if he doesn't then I will

I would not worry about M33 Ball it is the API that is almost the same price as the M33 on the civilian side. If someone was to shoot a 50 BMG at me in anger, I would assume it is API at the least.

@@mangrumpyold1871 I feel like if you're in a situation where you're getting shot at by 50 cal you're kinda fucked regardless if your plate can stop it or not

doesnt matter if it does that energy transfer to your body will kill you

@@mangrumpyold1871 .50 cal API is so absurdly hard to stop. Not sure if you would be able to wear something thick enough to do it.

The pleasure is all mine. If someone learns something from my videos that makes my day !

Agreed I just found this channel and I love the drop tests beforehand and the clay backer.

@@BuffRANGE What is that scope mount on your Mauser? I'd love to scope up my Mauser without having to ruin the receiver

@@bobbyhill3323 Badace Tactical: www.badacetactical.com/collections/ndt-mount-for-mausers

You'd be more disappointed if you got shot with SmKH.

😂

Same. Dont wanna waste plates with 9mm or something lol

trust me! because of back-face-deformation trauma and later on PTSD you still don't want to get hit...

Watch you get hit with .22 rim fre and it misses the plate 😂

I am curious if the smkh would've made it through on a fresh strike face.

My pleasure. :D

My pleasure! I have quite the collection of armor demo videos under my belt, if you have any questions feel free to ask!

I think it's closer to a boutique offering. If you need a sniper plate/are worried about some unknown threat, here's your deal. A civil grade XSAPI is no joke!

Awesome! Thank you!

My pleasure!

Thank YOU!

Thank you! It can be repetitive at times but if you're out hunting for plate info, it can be very useful!

You are definitely not wrong :D

Thank you for sticking around for the end! I can be goofy at times but do try to remain info/education centric :)

You are most welcomed!

​@@BuffRANGE I need info on how to get these plates.

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Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

Thank you!

Ohh it's your birthday today?

@@BuffRANGE no but close enough. thanks.

Aren't they brand new? I haven't seen hardly anything of their plates out in the wild. Just knowledge and technicals on Adepts front. This is literally the only testing I could find on one of their plates (other than their own videos)

@@cc-vg4ed they're not new, but they are really low-key. They haven't really leveraged social media much. They make all their stuff in house in EU, i _think_ around Prague.

@@thuglincoln7699 hmm. It looks as if their webpage was created in Q1 of 2021 so that is fairly new. Their contact page says their address is in Oklahoma, USA? Also their about us says "Adept is a materials engineering and industrial design firm that focuses on the development of body armor and infantry equipment."

@@cc-vg4ed Yeah they used to be called "Diamond age" and they rebranded to adept a few years back. and yeah they have offices here in TX or OK, but they do most of their business in EU and have manufacturing there because of like ITAR and biz like that

@@thuglincoln7699 They should list their manufacturing location so people can vet it. Hesco, Highcom, RMA, LTC, Tencate all list theirs.

So do I !

It cost me some serious $$$, but in the end, I think we set the standard if someone wants something above Level IV :D

Thank YOu!

Thanks for watching

Thank you!

Thank you!

Various collectors have them from time to time, and my wallet is often empty.

Good work!

That 2900 fps is no JOke

I wish it did too! - Also not sure why I wasn't alerted to this comment.

Cheryl, I am not sure if I ever saw your reply. RU-vid is absolutely horrible about proper notifications for replies or comments, so I apologize, as I try to respond to as many comments as possible. I'm guessing you don't have anymore of those SMKH rounds left? Adept thinks this WHA tungsten may be advantageous for ceramic penetration over Wc-Co cores being used today. It's simply downright amazing to throw these at 2900+ fps from the 23" Mauser

@@BuffRANGE No I don't. I missed out on the link you had and even wondered about what you ever did with the few duds that you encountered! As I indicated in my first comment, I pretty much accomplished everything that I was curious about with these as well as the limits of propellent driven gun designs... either via my own testing or through contacts with some of the top people that I met at conferences that I attended that were either DOD or contractors/liaisons...at ADPA/NDIA or Aberdeen PG... working groups, et al... Some of the contacts came from 'filtered' responses to some articles that I have written in several magazines that ended up being very helpful over the years... that came out of extrapolations that I made when I was running into the velocity limits of the chronographs that I was using at the time. They included upper echelon or director level people at various research facilities, to include Small Caliber sector arsenals and EML labs... and APG as noted previously. They included (invited) tours at Aberdeen, University of Texas (Austin)/EML St. Marks (via FCSA/Olin) and numerous conferences via ADPA/NDIA... Very briefly (in case you are interested)... some of those 'limits' are engineering/materials... type limits. Others are harder or more intractable. Interior ballistics: > Hyper-velocity gouging...(see: possible resolution via bore/projectile hardness tailoring... though I have not seen it fielded yet... which could be due to classification or further difficulties. What I have seen is an increase in penetrator mass which could also be limited by the launch dynamics of APFSDS/DA long rods. Future development in the direction of penetration enhancement could come from segmented long rods and the possible use of various extremely robust forms of carbon geometries from the standpoint of impact tolerance and melting points. To the question of achievable velocities... - (In atmosphere) gouging will start to occur in the low to mid 6,000 fps range (for sliding contact projectiles). Keep an eye on tank gun velocity improvements though it is likely that any break throughs will be classified, I have the feeling that there is still something holding things up. You can probably keep an eye on the fielding of promised ship-based EML platforms for this area of launch technology! As far as EML goes...there are some rather interesting launch dynamics outcomes... using velocity enhancement of pre-accelerated projectiles which has to do with the sound speed of the materials under study. The sound speed determines the speed limit of materials response. You can also encounter this once projectile speed reaches the hydro-dynamic regime (which can also be affected by density parameters). At these velocities the communication of stresses normally influencing the projectiles, goes away (I e.- the projectile does not recognize the stress occurring at the nose-tip...in the impact framework). The same consideration applies in the pre-acceleration case. In conversation with a national government lab... accelerations involving loads of over 5 times the normal yield strength were mentioned. How far beyond 5 times he could not comment on. Aero-thermal limits are another limiting factor. Tungsten long rods will encounter degrading ablation in the 3 - 3.5 km/sec. velocity regime. Adding carbon (see above) nose-tips will get you to 4 km/sec! Lastly, in my tests with high pressure propellent guns (in the early to mid 1990's) I ran through ~ a half dozen .30 and .50 caliber barrels (both rifled and smooth- bore) before reaching out to the various labs for answers. All shots in the mid 6,000 ft/second range resulted in in - bore projectile failures! End of barrel and the failure to notice the gouges will be memorable! I know that this ended up being a little beyond brief... but you seem to be on the curious side, as am I! Take care and keep your powder dry!

@@cheryltysver4819 4 kilometers per second? I am thoroughly perplexed if that is the legit speed of a projectile achievable out of something a human holds.

@@aloofsive1140 Those tests were conducted between 25 - 30 years ago and garnered far more attention than you almost certainly would ever want due in large part, to being published in a national/international venue. To your question... while the gun could be held rather easily, when operating at the maximum pressures for which it was designed, you most certainly would not want to be in close proximity! To quote the various DOD researchers that had experience with such guns, even with all the instrumentation that they had at their disposal, such guns could be very unpredictable and very short gun and barrel lifetimes were the norm (25 - 30 shots being not unusual)! Projectile failures for the various types tested were running between 85 - 90% and pressures were likely in the 200 - 250,000 + psi range (high enough to vaporize the front half of a fifty caliber cartridge case that became necessary after only twenty or so shots due to eight to nine inches of throat erosion). In the light weight projectile tests multiple .30 and .50 caliber test barrels were damaged in the first few shots due to hyper-velocity gouging when velocities exceeded the mid 6,000 - 6,500 fps range with L/D: 1 monolithic solids! The highest velocity recorded was just over 7,100 fps at the muzzle (6,980 over the Oehler 35P chronograph sensors)! Both the gun and 45" M2HB barrel were damaged during the shot! With respect to the 4km/sec. velocities... those were cited in a NDIA conference that concerned measures that were necessary to cope with aero-thermal heating/melting of tungsten and carbon tipped tungsten long rod projectiles using non-conventional acceleration methodologies that were linked to next generation launch systems in the neighborhood of twenty years ago while I was consulting with a working group out of Aberdeen Proving Ground via ADPA/NDIA.

I should ask them about testing that model. :D

The titanium by itself will not stop rifle rounds. It works in conjunction with a thicker UHMWPE. The titanium plate itself is good for IIIA and spike resistance.

Thank you !

You as well🦃🦃

I would certainly agree. I don't think we've tested a tougher plate in terms of advanced threats.

Why thank you !

Adept thinks it's likely not possible at 45', but if they want to send a fresh plate, I would be willing to start it at 100 yards and try again :D

@@BuffRANGE Here's hoping! Thanks man! Appreciate you!

Just be sure you have a carrier that will fit it. It’s thicker than any plate I’ve ever seen.

@@jonboy9734 already made a comment on that. I mostly likely have to replace my rbav which sucks. Any recommendations? Proper fit is most important like making sure there is no excess bounce that could cause unnecessary wear on my back. I already have serious back issues.

Yes, but am always looking for more. Wish they weren’t as expensive as they have become :(

#forscience!

My pleasure!!

My pleasure!

well in all seriousness the SMKH load is the cream of the crop. Standard SMK is not quite as effective as the M2AP bullet :D

@@BuffRANGE it's amazing how things change over time lol to bad I didn't order cases and cases of those and the ammo back when it was dirt cheap 🤣 if i would have been older during that time I sure would have lol

@@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548 Indeed. I wish I was into some of this at a much earlier time..

Thanks so much!

This has been my list I've been building. Top are the preferred choices: Level III+ RMA 1092 G2 Stealth Armor Systems HEXAR (B4C or Alumina) Militech RF2 Hesco 3810 Adept Thunder RF (no M855A1) Hesco 3810 Tactical Scorpion Gear III+ Xtreme (foam edge) AR500 A3 (No M855A1, and Single curve) Chinese Import Tile array Level IV: Adept Colossus US Military XSAPI RMA 1192 Militech RF3 Black Label Stealth Armor Systems Dragon Skin or Hexar Solid Spartan Armor Hercules Xtreme (formally Ares) Hesco 4800 US Military ESAPI RMA 1165 Hesco 4601 Highcom 4S17M RMA 1155 Botach Battle Steel Level IV (Longfri Plate) LAPG Level IV or similar (foam edges, bare min budget recommendation) SRT: Hesco M210 RMA ESRT Hesco L210 TSG ASP

Awesome ty that narrows it better thanks brother God bless you and yours.

@@Kampfwageneer No problem at all. If you have any questions, send me a DM on IG or FB.

Supposedly “Buffman” saves you some coin and gives me that kickback :)

@@BuffRANGE I already nabbed em I’m sorry :(

@@blykoger No worries at all :D

Yes indeed. Mail man lost the first set.

@@BuffRANGE yeah, he told me. Shame about that XSapi…

European manufacturer. I'm sure NIJ certification can be done. I'll leave that up to them.

People pay $1200-1500 Each for some high end plates without ever seeing a demo of them! That’s what I’m here for

@@BuffRANGE I prefer layers of 3a in clothing. Like my bulletproof coat. A plate takes preparation...a coat you wear every day is already on your back. I would maybe get 2 of these plates to throw into my double tall backpack 🎒 that holds my MK18. Other plates are almost 20lbs ....these plates would only be like 10lbs. Makes a big difference when the bag is loaded up and heavy.

@@mobilegamersunite yep. Hard to argue what you have on your or immediate access to vs something at home.

I have not reviewed that brand. I’m unaware of any armor currently rated to the level this is at least civilian offered.

That foam would be cool to see mass produced!

@@BuffRANGE it’s not as complicated as u think. Several ways to diy it even. It’s all about getting temp and cooling right. But several methods to produce it. The next is incorporating high entropy alloys into the foam.

@@kevinb.8649 That sounds well outside my wheelhouse of expertise :D

I doubt it.

What is the top line LTC/Hoplite plate model #?