@@bull_technology the support agent (since you HAVE to start a chat to cancel) used the fee to argue it would be best for me to keep the plan until it was up for renewal then cancel, and offered some months free if I continued... Ignore that it would auto-renew with no warning if I forget
Be careful. Even if your card is locked they will find a way to get the money anyway. I had to scream at the bank because of that. Not with Adobe, but another company. I’m just saying. From then on, I use a prepaid card for subscriptions.
Piracy or anyway of circumventing or breaking the laws are morally incorrect. That said, specific circumstances make those acts understandable, sometimes justifiable (more and more in those times where Big Tech companies initiate a trend to fu** up consumers even many small companies adopted). And in some cases, it's just a natural behavior from consumers in the game of who's dumber. The scum who came up with abusive terms and/or marketing or the consumers who just stopped letting them taking them for fools.
@@bull_technology Pirating Adobe software is very f***ing stupid as all you are doing is reinforcing the software market share and subsequent demand for Adobe trained creatives for (insert your pirated Adobe product/s) thus keeping their software relevant and the "industry standard". Pirated copies of Adobe Photoshop got into this situation by exactly this path! The far better option for the longer term (though not possible for every creative) is to support/develop and use FOSS/OSS wherever possible in your creative production pipeline. If this means throwing the developers a cup of coffee or more every so often then... I dropped Autodesk products to all open source over 16 yrs ago after they killed off Softimage and completely destroy my work pipeline thus forcing me to use 3D Max or Maya. I switched to Blender 3D and although it was hard at first the decision is fast proving to be the best creative software decision I have ever made in the longer term. The Blender Foundation has shown what can be done when creatives support a project such as FOSS. Blender has earned support from large corporations like Nvidia, Intel, AMD and Dell to name a few. Also their user support groups are probably the best for any software. Given another 5 yrs or so Blender may well take top spot away from AD's suite of tools. Ultimately though...people are stupid!
The more morally correct thing IMO is not to touch their products, because even if you are not paying them, you are still using their products and anything made by you will always be an advertisement for their software and that will minimize the development of alternatives which is gonna keep their monopoly alive. This is the reason why Photoshop has become a verb since most people pirate it instead of using an alternative even if they are only using less 10% of what it can do. Most people don't pay adobe, but Adobe still has manged to make a monopoly for this exact reason. If people don't stop using their products, their monopoly would never end, doesn't matter if you pay for it or pirate it.
Doesn’t help that Adobe is “industry standard” and taught in literally every school. I also remember my lecturers saying that if we didn’t have a legitimate copy of the softwear we couldn’t enter our work into competitions because they’d know from the meta data that you weren’t using a legit version, while at the same time offering NO ALTERNATIVE.
This is the real problem. If Adobe products weren't a requirement in companies and if they weren't being taught at schools, their dominance wouldn't be nearly as big.
To that, add... - Push ads for unrelated products from the same company - Every option you found to disable unwanted crap is re-enabled with the next update - Push distractions in "productivity" software. And you've got Microsoft!
The loading screens on Adobe products are ridiculous. I use a LOT of programs and literally all of them load faster. Even the dinky programs made by one dude in a basement load faster than something made by a company as large as Adobe? How?
EVERYWHERE companies are moving to monthly subscriptions instead of selling you something outright. `I will NOT become a Monthly Mug - this guy is spot on.
@@AnonymousMachine But $59 a month forever is going to be more than buying outright before long, and when you stop paying, it's gone, nothing to show for it.
Yeah, but that's only possible when the same idiots complaining about it are paying for it and encourging cloud subscriptions. if you don't like it then don't use it, simple. go back to photoshop 5 and stop buying this shit!
A subscription fee for a software tool is a joke. For someone who wants to edit photos a few times a year it's a total rip off. Imagine if you had to pay a monthly subscription fee to use a hammer or a screwdriver or a drill.
Glad more people are saying it. The subscription fees feel like a grudge purchase because its mostly way to expensive. How is it that a company like microsoft with all its really useful tools is far more affordable than adobe. ? This is my gripe. I will never accept that. Then lets not start talking about adobe competitors, they have equally confusing offers. Sooner or later a better option will arrive and when it does there will be no forgiveness.
If people stopped giving Adobe money, and donated a fraction of that money to GIMP, Krita, and Inkscape, we'd have world class Open Source alternatives that everyone can use, and no company could take away from us.
But companies will barely use Blender. Despite it is better than Maya in so many situations. They just do not want to rely on open source sofware. And they don't care how good it is. 🤷🏻♂️ There is this paradigm that you need software support and someone offical who you can call to tell you something is not possible. 🫣
Dear Adobe, You guys suck. I haven't used any of my Adobe Creative Cloud apps in a few months, so I got on a chat (very quickly with a real person, so points for that) and asked about putting my subscription on pause for a while, because I'd like obviously like to eliminate needless spending. "No, we don't do that. But if you do cancel, there's no reactivation fee if you change your mind." "OK, but what about all of my files on the cloud?" "If you don't reactivate after 30 days, they'll be permanently deleted." That's pretty standard, so I'm okay with that. All I have to do is download my content from the cloud, back it up to my RAID server, then cancel the service. I have a lot of content up on the cloud - a lot of 4k video, project proposal videos, product demo videos, status update videos, and crane videos, as well as logos and flyers for my trivia side gig. Some of this stuff goes all the way back to the first incarnation of my podcast, which ended right about when the pandemic started. That's a LOT of content, so I figured I'd start the download before bed, and see where it is the next morning. It was at this point that I discovered what a slimy, manipulative, and underhanded company Adobe is. The catch is - they've DISABLED ALL METHODS of downloading more than one file from the cloud at once. If you select more than one file, the Download button turns grey. You have to download your years and gigabytes of data ONE FILE AT A TIME. Click a file, click download, wait for it to download, click another file, click download, wait for it to download, lather, rinse, repeat... And they know damn well that it's not cost-effective for me (or anyone else) to use potentially billable hours to sit and download all this stuff file-by-file. So either I keep forking over $XX a month for software I'm not using, or I waste DAYS getting all of MY content down onto MY system. In essence, they're holding my content hostage!! They also don't even offer a "Cloud Storage Only" plan that I could use just to keep my content there. I'd have to subscribe to Adobe Express, their least powerful creative tool. It *is* only $10 a month, but when things are tight... things are tight!!! But it just gets better and better!!! That $10-a-month plan? Well, it's actually a little cheaper than that. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BUY A YEAR AT A TIME FOR $120!!!!! Have I mentioned that things are tight right now??? In closing: Adobe, you guys suck.
@@bull_technology thanks. This morning, I filled out a formal complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. I realize there's a suit already underway, but more evidence can't hurt. New subscriber. Thanks!
@@frauditorsubslickboots For most of my content, such as my raw audio/video/graphics, yes, of course I have local and offsite backups. (I mean, I had to create it locally before I uploaded it to the cloud. I certainly wouldn't delete it.) To explain, let's say I want to do something in Adobe Illustrator. I can do whatever I want, and save it locally (and backed up) as an .ai source file to have and to hold forever and ever until death do us part. If I cancel my subscription for a while then reactivate it, I still have my .ai file which I can open and reuse, modify, whatever. Suits me fine. I'm not very talented in graphic arts, so I also do a lot of work with Adobe Express. It lets me create really nice-looking graphics and videos fairly quickly. The catch, though, is that once you've completed the project, you can only download the export of the final product (the PNG, JPG, PDF, or MP4) which I always do. (How else would I use it for anything?) The issue is that there's no way to save the source files. They have it, they keep it, and they won't let you have it. And unless you constantly maintain your cloud subscription, all of those source files go away after 30 days, and you're left with a bunch of pictures and videos that you can't modify. The only thing to do is start over. Maybe that's the price of convenience? I guess in Adobe's mind it's a good way to keep revenue flowing. But it sure feels like they're holding my content hostage. JMHO. If you have a better suggestion, please feel free.
@@frauditorsubslickboots Not sure where my reply went, but the gist is that youcan't download the source. Only the result. So if you end your subscription and want to make changes, you have to start over.
I refuse to use "software as a service" for simple practical reasons; I don't know what my financial situation may be in the future, and if I had to cancel the subscription then any files I've created with it become useless. It means I have to pay what amounts to a ransom to unlock the data I created in the past. That just is not acceptable to me.
This is the old problem of buying something "lifetime" and run a 486 in 2024 because you can't update your Windows 95 machine as new OS won't support the old software anymore, or have to pay a subscription. If you work daily with something, and buy a license every year, paying a subscription is the same as buying a license every year in the end. I worked with Blender because could not afford Maya; then when my company paid for it, I used Maya.
good thing is psd and ai documents can be opened with practically every photomanip program and vector based program because of how spread adobe stuff is.
If adobe think taking people intellectual property(artwork) for free is legal, then taking adobe intellectual property(software) for free is also legal.
@@GodForbidUsToEat-sp5vfreason here would not be legal, it would be because FTC is impotent, as is pretty much whole America, doing business with corporations
Whats funny about this is that their claim of ownership might get them sued. If an artist does work for a client while using Adobe, and the client owns the copyright for the final product, then adobe will be stealing from an individual or business that does not have a contract with Adobe.
I’ve been wanting to cancel for a few months, but if i cancel now, i will have to pay a $95 cancellation fee. Now I’m trying to cancel on the next billing cycle, but that won’t be until March. It’s like i’m stuck in hell with Adobe until then.
@@JohnRWMarchant Same. I had 3D Studio Max since the 90's. I unwittingly became an Autodesk customer and stopped being a customer when they demanded I buy the software I owned again. It was hard but I kissed goodbye to Max and all my Adobe software. In the process I have save myself 10's of thousands of dollars by not giving in to blackmail.
I urge everyone to not use adobe products. Not even to pirate them. The less the industry relies on them the sooner correct changes will be made. I've been loving using the Affinity suite and Davinci resolve for video work. Short of Adobe being the industry standard they're just better products, less prone to crashes too
This is why competition is important. Eventually more and more people will move over to a competitor and Adobe will be forced to treat their customers fairly again.
Totally agree, using pirate products doesn't really bother big companies as long as their products are the most used in every PC becoming the "standard di facto"
@@pixelfodder Yeah, I prefer Canva, but I use Adobe Express because I'm already paying for it. But TBH, I'm getting used to it, and for what I use it for, it's adequate.
Both Adobe and Autodesk signed contracts with colleges so that their computers only use those products, and some classes even require students to buy their licenses. Of course they ended up bad, they're a near monopoly.
@@topy706 also davinci resolve pretty much has parity with Adobe Premiere. The only issue with resolve iirc is that it lacks integration with an adobe after effect or adobe audition equivalent. Not a huge loss though because after effects has been pretty much replaced by Nuke and Houdini
A lot of people don’t realise that when a product gets wrapped as a service, there’s another catch, that you are on the latest version and you have no choice. If the latest version breaks something that matters to you, TOUGH!!
@@ian_b yes, and then you’re left with an expensive dilemma. There’s also the malicious update issue to consider. I’ve heard of IP cameras that were promised lifetime support suddenly being a subscription, and the Sonos bricking scandal, Tesla’s supercharging, GMs heated seats and so on. Give ‘em an inch and they’ll take everything they can.
Even I, as an office worker who doesn't need graphic design tools, have suffered Adobe's bs. I needed to print a PDF, so I installed the lastest version of acrobat. The letters would always come out slanted for some reason. I thought it might have been a font compatibility issue (weird, since it was fking standard non italics Arial) so I looked for the "print as image" option... Disabled, only available for MacOS. The solution? I downloaded a 2010 version from the archive. Letters came out perfectly and the print as image option was available too
Imagine the future… Adobe decides to double or even triple the monthly subscription fee… and there’s nothing you can do about it. This is why subscription software is a fucking con.
I was permanently banned from the Adobe community forum because of flagging a crashing bug in Illustrator. All IT staff is in the same office as moderators. No appeal possible, 100% gaslighting.
What was the bug? You just flagged it and was banned? I’m asking because there are lots of crash reports on forums, I wander why they singled you out. I legit trying to understand.
Not really. I mean, adobe sinks tens of millions of dollars per year into software developer's salaries who write updates, patch vulnerabilities, create new features. I think Adobe's prices are ludicrous and I totally get (and agree with) the pushback, but the reality is that software and the systems it runs on requires a significant amount of maintenance. I'm not defending Adobe, I think their monopoly is problematic... but this idea that software as a subscription is wrong or that it is comparable to "renting a paintbrush" is incredibly short-sighted.
Cancelled plan 3 weeks ago. Deleted all adobe from laptop. Plan expired. Done with it. Next day get email saying “photoshop suspended”. Auto renew payment failed. Wtf are you doing adobie?
As a teacher at a British International school, my situation is a bit different from those professionals who have been using Adobe's applications for creating and publishing artwork and articles and so on. Still, I might have something of interest to say: Like "Bull Technology" who makes this RU-vid channel I felt insulted when Adobe switched to the subscription model. I decided that from now and on I would - as much as possible - only teach free apps. I went for GIMP instead of Photoshop and Inkscape instead of Illustrator. When it comes to video editing, I realised that Blender can do the job apart from all other stuff it can do. On a related note, I also would have liked to throw out everything Microsoft replacing it with Linux as platform and LibreOffice instead of Word-Excel-PowerPoint and database, but that would have upset the routines for the rest of the school outside of computing teaching. With Blender - great free tool by the way - and GIMP and Inkscape I have done what I can at my school to set the kids, my computer teacher colleague and myself free. I would recommend these apps to anyone else out there as well. Also, again, don't forget about Linux and LibreOffice. Hugs to everyone who loves software freedom from a Swedish guy teaching computing in China.
Back in the day, I made stuff for giant clients like COCA-COLA, PEPSI, HEINEKEN, CITIBANK, NIKE, SAMSUNG, BMW, and whole bunch of others, using Photoshop 5.5 which you can literally copy and paste on as many computers as you want. It doesn't even require an installation. If I could land such customers 20+ years ago with PS 5.5 which I STILL use sometimes, it proves that YOU DO NOT NEED the latest gimmick in order to be creative. Its the artist, not the tool. The tool certainly helps, but don't give the "modern versions" more credit than they deserve.
True. That's also the case for "inferior" products. You really don't need the latest gimmicks. If they really are useful they be added in your software anyway.
You're still using version 5.5 sometimes? Come on dude, you living in the 90s or what? That's BS if I've ever read any. Besides, there's a limit to "it's the artist, not the tool". Yeah, you don't need to have the latest version of PS to do great art, but it helps tremendously. Also, when it's your job, a new tool that allows you to do in 5 minutes what used to take 30 minutes makes a big difference. You should know that if you indeed worked for all those great companies.
Right on target with Adobe. 1. I had a perpetual license for an Adobe suite which they purposely bricked during their initial cloud onslaught. I found a file that was used to brick my software and overwrote it with the original file and the software worked again. Real nice and ethical Adobe. 2. Affinity; I’ve been using affinity for several years and I am a very happy with it. My only concern is that Canva acquired the company earlier this year. I hope Canva does not ruin the ethos that Affinity fostered.
Freehand, flash, authorware and fireworks were amazing. Macromedia had better web technology and were in a position to dominate. Massive fail selling to Adobe.
I read somewhat recently that Adobe doesn't care about individual people pirating their "products" because they make so much from business licenses/contracts that it doesn't matter. See how long that lasts now that so many companies are realizing how bottom of the barrel Adobe is.
You can’t say they don’t care. It’s good for them to keep a big community around their products. If old users start to learn other software new users will start from other software too (tutorials, recommendations etc.). That’s why it’s good for them that 90% of users choose Photoshop for example. If it would be not possible to use it for free it wasn’t so popular. You can start learning with cracked software. But in the future companies will buy what’s popular so it can recruit people more easily. That’s why companies don’t use free Gimp for example. Almost nobody knows it.
So if you are under NDA for a project you are working on who is legally liable when Adobe scrapes that confidential content? Using Adobe products is now potential legal liability for the user.
It wouldn't suprise me that the person using the adobe software were to be liable. In the end you agreed to adobes terms and therefore are aware of the possibilities. This would mean that You are breaching the NDA by using the software. then again this is just speculation
Thanks for this, currently battling to cancel my "annual" subscriptions. Signed up on a deal to learn under the impression I can cancel anytime. Can't find contract details anywhere and to my knowledge there was no agreement to signing up to an annual subscription. Numerous calls to be hung up, emails that are returned as undeliverable. Total joke, just cancelled manually through paypal. Also to note payment increases which were never mentioned
When CS6 was announced as the last Creative Suite, I bought it, thinking I would just own it. The problem is that Adobe had delayed their 64-Bit transition longer than any other company out there, and once the CS6 sales had peaked, CC came and soon after, 64-Bit. Apple moved forward (I cannot blame them for this; all decent companies had done their 64-Bit transition years ago, under some pressure from Apple to keep things up to date), and I lost access to CS6. Since then, I have owned zero Adobe products. If they ever decide to release another versions of CS (not CC) and give all their CS6 customers a free upgrade, I would use it again. Under all other circumstances I will never touch Adobe products again in my life.
That was a major issue for me as well. I used CS3 for ages until Apple axed 32-Bit support several years ago, and this was my main driving factor in making the switch to Affinity.
It was clear that 64bit was being held back for their subscription service. It was a really sh1tty move from a garbage company. I used to do IT support for a graphic design department and Adobe software was about 95% of the problems I had to deal with, it was so buggy and really not what I would call pro level at all. From what I gather it is no different now, still full of bugs and now massively over priced too.
They were also slow to update to native versions for M1, that took some time, Bridge took ages. Give me a replacement for Bridge and Lightroom and I I’m out of there.
Adobe was the first company that rolled out software as a service, where you can no longer own it outright and have to rent it. Since then it’s proven to be a very lucrative business model that almost every other software company has jumped on that bandwagon.
Actually I believe CADD companies did it first. AutoCAD and Bentley had a subscription based model long before Adobe. Adobe just deepened the evil and polished it to a shine.
TechSmith is moving to that model with Camtasia and SnagIt. For right now, you can continue to use your existing license, but I'm sure that will go away soon.
The problem is that adobe products are industry standard. You cant get a job without knowing them because mass people use their products only. You become irrelevant and also cross platform project collaboration is tedious. Their own product ecosystem also works like apple. You have to use adobe products to cross link files.
True, I'm a digital arts student who has to rely on Illustrator, Photoshop and Maya and its tough dealing with cross compatibility. There's also the scary idea that I'd have to keep myself afloat once my tuition no longer supports me using those softwares.
That's so true. In old good days I was still able to install the software I liked to use on the company's computer. Now, it is not possible. And I have to stay in the office sometimes for long hours to finish a project as I don't have these softwares on my home computer. It really sucks. Not to mention some other software is so much better.
Fun fact: adobe switched to a subscription model not because it made more money, but because subscriptions are taxed different and it lowered their tax bill.
This certainly is a fun fact and thank you for sharing it! I'm not sure which is more disgusting though: switching to price gouge or switching for tax incentives.
@@bull_technology It's every company's obligation to its shareholders to try to minimise its tax burden while maximising its profit (legally). It's your responsibility as a customer to ditch companies that don't offer good value. There's also only one entity to blame for stupid tax incentives, and that's the government. If you want blame with names and surnames, you can blame the individuals who keep voting for big governments that love to tax and spend, who just won't leave people TF alone and will constantly burden them with silly regulations pulled out of their backsides.
@@chesshooligan1282 this is a legalistic approach. There is clearly a problem with the law, when you look at all of the unethical choices that have been made by companies simply trying to make the ‘best choices for their shareholders’
@@clipdump Yes, of course, we agree on that. The problem is with the arrogance of politicians, who think they know what's good for the consumer better than the consumer knows himself. Always tweaking things, can't leave people to make their own decisions in a free market. But ultimately the problem is with the people that vote for these politicians.
I have never nor will I ever pay adobe a monthly subscription. They lost a good customer. Now I just continue to use my older version of adobe that I own and I use davinci for video editing.
@@marsrii4372 The only best software made by Adobe is Adobe After Effects so it was worth pirating because there is no match for After Effects in the market. AE is a master piece.
7 years really, but when i downloaded adobe illustrator cracked version.. my laptop becomes slow after that and also some things are jot working properly because i downloaded crack Adobe software... Is there any solution for this?? Because you were used 7 years that's why i am asking
This is the truth being spoken here. If you don't like what Adobe is doing, give them the boot. It's that simple. The only reason they get away with this is that people/organisations don't give them the boot. If every single customer gave them the boot, see how quickly they would change their tune!
The best thing about Adobe’s obscene greed is that it made other developers realise they could genuinely compete at last. Since then the alternatives have become many and excellent and they can all use perpetual licensing as a big plank of their advertising👍
100% agreed! I voted with my wallet several years ago, stopped subscribing to Adobe and bought Affinity Photo, Publisher and Designer…easier to use and much cheaper!
Software subscriptions are like living with an abusive partner. Everyday you come home expecting peace and tranquility but there's another letter with a whole new set of demands from her lawyer telling you what you must agree to or else. People have to get it into their heads that you can walk away and go through the pain of divorce and kicking abusive "partners" to the curb. Everyone, please stop with the Stockholm syndrome and the Adobe problem goes away.
You own nothing and you're at their mercy. You could argue that you never own software, you always license it in today's world, but at least fully offline buy-once-use-forever software without forced cloud connectivity or subscriptions is quite close to "owning it".
I just read this exact comment on another video - I hope for your sake you are the same person who wrote and posted the other one or that would be rather ironic indeed! 😂
@@awlhunt For my sake? I've left the comment on may other videos, if someone copies it and posts it elsewhere more power to them. Not sure what you see as ironic or why you felt the need to make this comment. Do you work for Adobe?
moved away permanently from adobe products , my clients also agree with this they're in the process of moving away from these criminals as well. adobe will have fun training their ai with poisoned images i left in cloud.
It's interesting - so many of you claiming Adobe are 'criminals' - you do realise that is slander? - unless you can PROVE your claim is based on FACT. I presume if Adobe are the people you claim them to be, that their legal teams will be pursuing those they consider guilty of slander?
I called Adobe and told them that I couldn’t pay the almost $70 a month subscription and the guy I spoke with lowered it to $29.99 a year for another year and told me to call again in a year and they would keep the price at $30 per month
Finally somebody calls it like it is. The problem is far far beyond just Adobe's garbage policy updates and the price they charge, it is also the fact that I've been using their apps for the past 5 years and I have seen VERY LITTLE changes for the better in Illustrator, Photoshop, or After Effects, in fact, I'm largely sure that I could even count the changes on my fingers. They've remained the exact same heaping pile of unoptimized garbage that they are, and year after year, all they've just added features that nobody asked for, or wants, when their app performs like dogshit, with existing features either being broken, or having stupid workflow. This has so many implications, Artists are more often than not limited by tools, and Adobe's complacency is leading to an industry that is limiting said artists from experimenting and trying out new things. I know that's a very strong statement, but take a look at the 3D side of things, the competition there is insane, and the kind of changes you get within one update renders the previous version obsolete simply because the new one is so goddamn useful.
This is further not helped by the fact that their take on AI is useless. The only AI feature I use is Generative Fill, and even that is limited to a paltry resolution of 1024x1024. They try to shove Generative features down your throat, but all you have to do is take a quick look at Figma's latest update to realize what AI features should look like
Indeed! I couldn't agree more. I was able to gain access to CC for a few months several years ago, and I was absolutely amazed at how utter broken and un-optimized Photoshop and Premier were. It's outrageous that Adobe will charge you $60 a month to use this software. Unreal. But thanks for the comment!
Regarding ownership it's much worse: everything you *create* with 'rented' software you don't own either, because the moment you stop paying for the subscription, that's when you lose access to everything you made with that software. Yes, many other apps can open and import PSD, and AI files, but that's just because they reverse engineered Adobe's proprietary file formats and not by design.
bullshit, I anyone can open and ediit anything you make on any adobe software regardless if the creator still pay or not their software, you still own any files and assets, they dont dissapear, they are not locked from being open or edited, what the hell are you talking about?
@@AnonymousMachineThe point he is making, is that if the formats were not reverse engineered by others, the files will be practically locked, maybe you have the option to save them as a photo, a video or whatever, but then all that "editablity" will be lost, and you need to treat them as stock.
Pirated Adobe user here. A few years ago I tried RawTherapee, for commercial project. Haven’t used Lightroom ever since. Although, it is not perfect. First: RawTherapee has a-loooot of settings and option(specially for noise reduction), that LightRoom has simplified to one slider. So it is quite intimidating to new users. Second problem: you will need to find and import latest library of lens correction profiles into RT seperatly, because it is open source software.
We need our own Sea Shanty, with plenty of "Yo Ho Ho's", and brandishing of cutlasses'. As I'm in the People's Republic of Britain, I'm expecting. My front door kicked in, within 3-2-1.......
I agree with every single word you said. Oh, hang on, I actually haven’t watched the video yet. The title actually gets it 100% right. Finally , somebody speaking my language. Right onto watching the video.
I’d been thinking about stopping my photography suite subscription for quite some time, years even! Then I noticed the bad press they were receiving and decided to scrutinise my subscription further. Cut a long storey short, Adobe are now in my past for all the reasons you mention and some. I’m a happy Affinity combined with Davinci Res Studio (which i’ve used for some time) user bunny now, well for now!!
I miss those times when you where able to make a one time purchase and actually owned a thing and not those stupid subscription Services like today. Thats why i don't use streaming Services like crapify, netflix and that other crap noone likes. I can't afford to waste 100s of dollars on subscriptions every month
9:57 I have been working on computers since the 386 processor days. I had clients that had very sensitive data on their networks. I was asked about them using cloud storage and even back then I asked, "If it is on the cloud, who will have access?" I could see this coming a mile away, I don't put anything important of mine on the cloud. I used to use Adobe products, but not any more.
anyone learning computer science? If I had to try to learn how to make a simple program, where do I start? lol edit: I know adobe is complicated to replicate, but seriously, what if I wanted to make a simple program, where do I start? And I wanna learn SaaS etc. Anyone here experienced?
I don’t exactly get the “ADOBIE” joke, but it sure made me chuckle every time it popped up! And yup, 💯 they are A-holes. Like so many, I’m imprisoned by them atm but intend to escape asap, when my lively hood isn’t chained to them.
Macromedia fireworks was great. Was still using it despite it being 15 years old until recently, where upgrading to windows 11 (a mistake) finally was too much for it to run. I have the full affinity suite now (I recommend the full suite over just photo alone, personally), and it's good and all, but fireworks was just so much more intuitive, and had everything I needed. Was a bummer when adobe bought them. Though speaking of affinity, I bought affinity designer, liked it enough that I wanted the suite, and their customer service being the absolute legends that they are, refunded me so I could buy the suite (to save having to buy one of the products twice). Didn't even need to ask them, they just offered it when I asked if there was an upgrade option. I'll always support companies that are customer friendly like that, for so long as they continue to be.
@@AnonymousMachine This 'reply' appears to be a canned response to @BrennerProductions' comment. It is identical to another response on this page aimed at a disenchanted Adobe user.
I had no problem paying for it decades ago. But they made piracy completely justifiable now. Just like with RU-vid ads. I had no problem supporting the platform and/or creators by watching a 3 second autoskip ad on vids longer than 5 mins. But once it got out of hand, you couldn't pay me to give YT a second of my time or penny of my money.
Tried adobe products as a student last time and lost 100+ bucks because they only give u a 2 week window to cancel subscriptions. If you missed it u hv to pay 50% of remaining fees for “early termination”, which is kinda hilarious
Krita - Inkscape - Shotcut is my main kit since I left Adobe behind, years ago. Also, not an Adobe alternative, but if you like pixel art, Aseprite is well worth the price.
Unfortunately I didn't like Affinity. Took a long ass time to learn PS as well. I'll stick to Cs6. It's called own nothing, be happy. Tis the goal. As is BLATANT by now even by the sheep.
I still use CS6 with Windows 11. For what I need, it still does the job. I never bothered with a subscription although had considered it a few times in the past. If I ever got back into needing newer versions, I now would not get a subscription and would instead choose an alternative product.
@@TheRimBrakeGuy Absolutely. I have one Windows 11 desktop computer, multiple Linux desktops, and dozens of Linux servers. For some things I find Windows useful. Edit to add: The best thing I ever did with my relatively unused MacBook 2015 was install Linux on it. Now I use it all the time.
I just checked the stock price and Adobe keeps going up. Apparently Wall Street isn’t concerned about people leaving the creative suite for other software. They see potential future value in something else.
Maybe not that much are leaving, the few folks here and on other channels make no difference? Same story with Desktop-Linux idling at 4% for many years, while lots of Linux-nerd-channels try to tell you that "now" is the time. Not an Adobe fan, but lets face reality. Pirated Software calling home ? Turn off your internet connection, why one needs to be online 24/7 ? Affinity is not ready to read all that stuff Adobe files contain, missing features too. Which makes it nearly impossible for big companies to do a switch to whatever. Try to read a complex Illustrator file into Affinity Designer... or Inkscape. Symbols gone, Text gone names/layers gone, not that much of an alternative atm. And then, Affinity was bought by Canva. 99% sure they will pull out a subscription-crap for Affiinity. Companies are there to make money, not for producing good/cheap software. Similar for food-companies, or is everything in a supermarket healthy and cheap because they care so much about us ?
The issue also is many companies/corporations demand the use of adobe products in their studios or offices because is "industry standard". Many times i had to work in a company with adobe products while suffering in rage as the management wouldn't trust on using other alternative softwares.
The alternatives are complete garbage and is going to turn any project into a hell since only you would know how to edit and progress some parts of the project with a software that is not compatible with anything else
I'm happy this is finally coming out, I covered these issues in an article years ago. I was a customer for decades but unsubbed years ago because they wree doing these things and worse already since many years, it's only becoming obvious to thee average user now.
Something I find annoying about adobe is how bloated their software is. It's clearly the same software just changed and made bulky. Especially photoshop. There's several other drawing programs ten times better, and it's because their program starts up immediately and does what it's suppose to do.
8:35 you know to never trust a corporation like Adobe when their literal logo on the side of their buildings looks nearly identical to Abstergo Industries.
Our society is slowly transforming itself into a rental-based economy in very many of its products. Remember when a television antena would allow you to have free (ad-supported) programming? That’s now largely gone and we pay exorbitant monthly fees for cable or subscription services. If this trend continues, we will soon find ourself in a futuristic version of the feudal economy, where a very few corporations will control all of the resources and gadgets that we will need to survive, and in which we will be no more than indentured servants, paying outrageous monthly sums to rent all of what we need.
Its just a shame that when Adobe went to subscription, the entire world couldn't band together and just refuse to subscribe. They would have been forced to backtrack. (sigh) People power only works when everyone is on board.
Once again, I was thinking of subscribing to Adobe. I finally have some time to go back and play with; with what is probably more robust tools than what I use, some processing and editing. Have not used their product in years (disk version LR 5, and a full adobe suite over 15 years back). But with the negative things they are doing; I will pass and look at different disk available options. Invasion of privacy, difficulty to cancel subscription, using subscribers photos to teach AI; and from what I hear, they are still slow to correct software problems.... it sounds like it will do nothing more than get under my skin. I'm a serious hobbyist photographer of over 50 years; my built in Mac photos program, along with my Canon and Sony software, do well enough on the minor edits I make. With 3 adult children that are also hobbyists, each one has already told me to look elsewhere if I really feel the need to heavily process and edit. ? and a
It cost me over £200 to cancel my subscription. I was with ADOBE from the creative 4 suite. Then the Cloud. Brainwashing customers to keep paying. Left them last year, I'm not missing the Fcukers.
Indeed. What's really sleazy is Adobe has been implementing their AI as a way to generate images that replace stock photos. Some people make an entire living out of creating stock images. So Adobe will train it's AI on stock photos people upload to the platform and then put those same people out of work. Nasty
Adobe; literarily a shit brick. Adobe: Brick made of composite earth material mixed with water, dung and straw. The earth material contains normally sand, silt and clay. Straw is useful in binding the shit-brick together and to give it some strength.
