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Just in reply to some of the comments that i've read here, I'd like to say that I have had the privilege of seeing Ean play live in Toronto, together with Richie Hawtin, Marc Houle, and Justin James, and his set was nothing short of spectacular. Truly an innovator with your craft.
thanks dude., been a dj for 34 years professionally and this is like icing opn the cake. i no longer have decks, or my controller, but with 2 x 1's, a Z1, a microKORG, an numark analog 2 (+1 (line/mic)) channel mixer with analog controlled digital fx (unbelievable including a never ending tape delay and the best filter i have EVER heard. i have experience dj'ing with effects as for years, alongside my 1200's i ALWAYS had a mixer with aux send/ return to use my DigiTECH DSP 128+ rack mount fx unit. i been remixing records live since 1997, so of course i have a newly acquired Malekko Echo ID-300 Bright Analog Delay Pedal, and even though i don't have send/ returns on this numark, i have that 3rd stereo channel with eq and can apply a whole different slew of it's digital fx, including a vocoder (!) and then i have a really shitty gemini ''mixer'' (which i don't even know how it got here, tbh). this allows me to have the effect petal on channnel 1, and the microKORG on channel 2. as well as a second microphone (one mic per mixer (or another line, via the gemini). alternatively, i could use the gutiar pedal in between the KORG and my Numark, instead of on its own channel. then again i could always just use it for vox effects connecting a mic directly into the pedal. the best part is that i now can record externally as you've managed to make sense of the input/ output routing and such. even though i went to school for music uindustry arts back while digital production and dj'ing was still in its infancy, using both analog 2'' tape recording, MIDI, and digital producing/ recording, (Logic/ Protools), and even with all that, it has been a complete nightmare to get my head to properly wrap around all of this. i still have to physically draw out my setups. ADHD + OCD, not irrelevant Hahahaha. until really, siiting down, watching this today, i still hadn't managed to work it all out. way too many contingencies. it can be rather overwhelming. immediately before watching this, i learned to, and mapped, nudge and pitch controls to my x1's. now my life, music-wise, at least, is once again, complete. thanks you Ean, good sir, you are truly a legend. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One thing that could impart a *clearer and punchier* signal!... With a set-up like this, you should check the impedance of the aux send/returns on the mixer (likely in the manual). Guitar pedals always are designed around high-impedance unbalanced signals (or Hi-Z, i.e. guitar/bass etc.), while analog mixers tend to be designed around low-impedance balanced signals. When guitar pedals are used as outboard gear in the studio a "re-amp" device is used to match the impedances and balance/unbalance the signal. I personally use a pigtronix key master because of its simplicity/flexibility but any re-amp device should work. There are a million guitar pedals on the market and there is no reason they can't be used as hi-fi effects units.
Most pedals are unbalanced and the Fx Send / Return input / output jacks on the DJ desk are balanced so you need a DI Box to make the unbalanced signal turn in a balanced signal. it's even mandatory if you are using long low quality jack - jack cables you could get hum, buzz and noises...
EAN GOLDEN FOR PRESIDENT! THIS VIDEO HAVE BEEN ALL THE ANSWERS I WAS LOOKING FOR. I have an S8 eith faulty channel faders and mac os and traktor 3 pro and yesterday bought some pioneer djm 250 k mixer and asking myself how to route the cables to skip from s8 the eq and the channelfader of the s8 and route outputs C + A instead inside pinoeer channel 1 and B + D into channel 2.
I would like to add one more thing - you need to work on gain structure a little, you should have the channel faders at that 0 DB mark (it's next to the 0DB light, there is a scale on the other side of the slider) and try to keep EVERY channel at 0DB or under, or at most, a tiny flash to 3DB (that's for running 2 channels also, if you are doing 3 or more each time you need to pull down all the other channels to keep the master near 0db..). I know you touch on it a little about how in a digital mixer it would be distorting, still, even with the 'nice' saturation of master out of Xone 92 running at 3-6DB output light, it is not as 'clean' as running master at 0db (or 3DB max). When you were doing the effect, as you had gain trim at midday and level faders at 9 out of 10 sort of level (with three channels, music on channel 3 as well as dry on channel 4 and wet on return channel. So you can see at points you are redlining with effects. Important if DJs could learn about gain structure (ties into how you should be converting your signal from output of mixer before guitar pedal and then on way back again, which another commentator as well as myself touched on) - clean signal sounds a lot better than distorted/saturated/clipping for 90% of DJ stuff. Different story for production/recording/noise music and other things, but that's not what we're talking about (unless you DJ some of that stuff, even then I think you should apply proper gain structure to YOUR mixer output.. pull down those clipping tracks). One last thing though, don't take me as a complainer, I am very grateful for this helpful tutorial. It would have been very useful for me if I saw it some years ago before going on my quest to combine my guitar pedal board with my DJ rig :)
I commented on a A&H post about this recently and they responded saying the same was Xone has plenty of headroom and it's not a problem. So are the channel VU's just for show? Do they accept that so many DJ's redline they have made them 'vanity' VU meters?
@@THE_Container due to being analog mixer with headroom it won't clip in a nasty way, but it will saturate from the summing of higher levels in the channels. So the metering has a point and will measure if you are coming in at 0dB or not, its just that with an analog mixer like this, it isn't AS important as if you are using digital where digital clipping sounds so bad. And some people might like the 'harshness' of analog harmonic distortion and saturation -ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DZ4IGAR7iio.html is a good video
Not worried about impedance matching etc , as you're using guitar effects pedals that are expecting instrument level signal and you're running line level signal into them?
very nice video... but you forgot to zoom in and explain a bit more the configuration on the Aux channels actual console. like the Duck boutton and sutch. thats the part i was interested about. great stuff
Thanks for the video, great to see how you’ve set it up. Unfortunately I’m confused. In the one hand you explain how the analog element allows for cleaner sound without distortion but then go on to say you will need a sound card 🤔 I’ve not had any issues running my sound source directly into the channel. So I dont understand?
Jacob Stadtfeldld he adjustes the tempo manually. if you want the tr8 to follow the master tempo, you need a midi clock send signal, which traktor s4 has.
Ken Sheldon Ken - Ean often removes knobs from gear that he doesn't use or want to accidentally trigger - similar to why he adds Chroma Cap to the knobs that he DOES want to use the most often
Thanks for this video currently running a DJM-250Mk2 and the X1Mk2 been looking for a unique alternative to the traditional CDJ set up many of my friends currently run planning on doing this same set up eventually with the 92 and duel X1s but with a different FX unit and drum machine
the pioneer in this kind of djing was speedy-j in the year 99 i guess with ,first with two hardware samplers (yamaha su700)& the laptop working as effect processor connected to the aux sends of a xone 464.. and later with traktor & live+machine+xone 92 ..and now with an octatrack.
I was just wondering what type of cable Ean is running from the soundcard to the mixer? Where would you get these or is Ean making them himself? Are they 1/4 to RCA? Any help will be appreciated. Wanting to create a similar setup using an analogue mixer.
I'm seriously considering getting a Xone 92, even in 2020, always loved the look of it, but torn between getting that and the Xone PX5 being it has the USB connection on the back. Obviously there's the Xone 96 but that's a little out of my price range right now. I have a komplete Audio 6 MK2, i was wondering if i could replicate this setup using it, for 3 decks from Traktor Pro 3, if so what cables would i need? I was just looking at an 8x 6.3mm Jack Mono to 8x RCA Male Multicore Cable, would that work with the Xone 92 and my Audio 6 Mk2?! I'm guessing it wouldn't being it only has 4 out and 6 in. I noticed the the Traktor Audio 10 is now discontinued also.
The Xone 96 has some refinements and enough of a difference in the sound quality to make it worth it, imo. I had a 92 but was blown away by the 96 when I had it.
Hey man Really appreciate your video and your creativity I was wondering can I use Xone 43 instead of Xone 92 So Xone 43 - TR8 - dual Traktor X1 - NI 6 Audio interface?
HI, how to connect my xone 96 with the tr8s? still need and external sound card for the midi? I connected with the midi of the xone 96 and it doesn't work
the 96 comes with a soundcard and midi options. you need to first set the 96 as the soundcard for Traktor, and have it send midi signal OUT to the tr8s' midi IN. then you can either route the AUDIO OUT of the tr8s into one of the 6 stereo channels.
wait a second, this is a great mixer no doubt but vestax was implementing exactly the same kind of FX possibilities years before, on their PCV-275 for instance, it's not such a "unique" feature for the xone to be able and do so (thanks for the tuto tho I'm currently mixing on this vestax and was wondering if I could find a similar FX section on the xone, now I know it has it!)
Great video ...where is the initial Midi clock coming from to time the RD8? Is it coming directly from Traktor or passing through the mixing desks MIDI out? Cheers
So do all analog mixers imperatively need an external soundcard in order to function? Also when you say "this is why this mixer is so good" you're essentially refering to the extended routing possibilities, correct? Thank you for the great video!
So what would the difference be if I got a digital DJ mixer taking audio input through usb? Because that would save money not having to get a dedicated sound card with multiple outputs. Would it sound bad?
Hi, That´s a awesome video! Thank´s so much for that! I don´t have much experience in connecting things. I would like to connect Traktor with my Signature22 mixer (use instead of a sound card) to the zone 92 My question: Is it possible to use my soundcraft signature 22 (with audio interface) instead of an external sound card? The mixer only have AUX outputs and don´t have chich (RCA cable) stereo outputs. I´ve try it already but I failed. Or maybe I did a mistake in the settings in Traktor... I´m thankfull for any help...
Hi Ean, I noticed that TR8 is in sync with traktor...How did you do the sync? If is the same way you sync traktor with maschine...how can we Do this in the Club while other DJ is finishing his performance...I mean...the audience cannot hear the click meter from traktor... Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge :)
How's the U-PHORIA UMC404HD for this type of setup? I'm looking at NI A6 but it only gives me 3 channels on the mixer I think. Or what are the other alternatives in this price range?
hello, i just bought a xone92 and i want to connect my RMX-1000 on the mixer. which is the correct way of doing it? i have tried connecting MIX2 to RMX input and from RMX output to RETURN 2. when i try to increase the volume of MIX2 on the mixer there is a strange sound. im not sure whether im using all the correct preferences, if you can please tell me the correct ones. in addition i have tried connect AUX1 to RMX input and from RMX output to RETURN 2. with this setup i cannot use the echo filters on the RMX since there is no input from the mixer to the rmx. please let me know which is the correct connection and settings to use fully the RMX1000. THANK YOU.
i dont know if anyone is going to see this question but im wondering about something since im looking into building my first "hardware" based setup... ive read before that it's advised to always play MONO when DJing at a club or whatever since the stereo signal wont give a consistent audio in the entire room... But i notice that on all mixers the channel inputs are always stereo.... so do DJs play stereo? or is it converted to MONO on the PA side of things? what's up with that?
Just wondering, anything you don't like about the Reverb or Delay on the TR8? Also, have you tried routing the TR8 through Traktors effects with a live input deck?
Hello Ean, i have a question for you. I have a Scarlet 6i6 soundcard connected to the xone 92 mixer. The problem is that the peak level leds of the channels doesnt turn on. I tried with a Technics Turntable and it worked, but when i plug from my soundcard it doesnt work. I think it sounds good, can the problem has to do with only with the peaks meters?
Hi guys, forgive me but I have one question that hopefully can be answered... my mixer is Reloop RMX60, which has no fx send/return section, so is it possible for me to use Traktor effects when I DJ digitally? Does this mean the Traktor effects necessarily to be routed before the mixer section? It is quite weird though...right?
Dear DJTTI have a problem.Not so long ago, i was a Native Instruments Traktor DJ, but because of the controller i thought, that i would change course to become a Pioneer DJ. I bought the DDJ-RX controller, and use the Rekordbox DJ Ver. 4.0.0. updatet to the 4.0.6 ver.However, I love the controller, love the knobs and faders and the big jogwheel. But the Rekordbox DJ software layout is not logic og fun to Watch and Work in.My question: Is it possible, to use the Pioneer DDJ-RX with Traktor 2 pro software?I read some place at the internet, that the so called TFI FILE donsen't exist to the DDJ-RX controller only for the DDJ-SX.I really hope you can help me out.Sincerely and a true new member fan on the youtube channelKenneth from Denmark(Sorry of the spelling isn't that good)
Hi everyone can you help me for a problem that i can not solve . I have push and Xone 92 and i dont know how to plug it in to work. i plug 2x 1/4 going out from Push to Xone 92 and nothing happens should i do something in Ableton software and if its yes please tell me what i try hard 2 days already and i m already tired . Thanks
the amount of plug ins needed for a few effects is putting me off. I love the mixer but I think a DB2 may be better for me. I only use delay, reverb and filters but seems like alot of extra hassle?
I always thought it would be so cool if someone took a baby/grand piano & somehow hooked it up as kind of like an 8 track/drum machine/ synthesizer but also still could stay a real piano as well
@@meta45354 no effing way. I'm doing it right fucking now and I have never been more serious about anything in my life, okay something maybe training my dog LOL
but in this case it is better to connect the tr8 to one of the two stereo channels of the left,like the effect return..this would leave you the 4th main channel free for the 4th traktor deck !
Hey Ean, how did you connect the X1`s to give a signal on the mixer? I just got myself one and the midi works just fine but I cant figure out how to get a signal from them to my xone 43. I am using 2 CDJ 900nxs players as a soundcard and their output just works fine. Would a "real" soundcard help me fix my problem? I used to play without traktor before so I really am new to this topic. Can you help me? Thanks -Michael
+Vintsent Bekaert there are only two send/returns if those effect boxes you mention are analog, however you CAN also run either a) mix 1 left/right to either a stereo effect input, or two different mono effects (one each channel) which will only effect one channel at a time.. you could also have mix 2 or booth output running to effects, and have another mixer handy to switch wet and dry channels.. with the 2 aux outputs with a&h, you could run as many effects as you like in a row on one of them (other issues involved with chaining you'll need to look at down the track..) or one or a few on each of the two aux sends.. to add more options, get a 'loop feedbacker' which give you a clean output that you can switch to different effects loops. So the possibilities are endless. The most important thing to remember though is GAIN STRUCTURE. Guitar level = 'high z'. Consumer = 'low z / consumer line'. Mic level = mic level, (proper/non-consumer) Line = line level. To effectively run into guitar effect pedals that are high-z / guitar input, you need to convert your LINE level output from aux send to HI-Z. Then on the way back you need to get from Hi-Z to line level again for the return. Personally, I use a Radial Reamper X to get line to hi-z, then back is a Radial Stereo JDI Duplex for hi-z to mic level, then a Rolls MP222 mic preamp to get from mic back to line for return into the mixer. I am still waiting to get an ISP Decimator II and/or Boss NS-2 Noise Suppressor along with a loop feedbacker to complete my analog effect send. The only other thing that is an issue is buffering if you are using long effects chains with an actual guitar as the input, or potential noise issues with powering all the pedals. I use a Cioks Ciokolate power 'bank' (I like to call it a bank because it's got so much more than what I think of in a 'supply' - just my word, not really a 'power bank' if that really exists hehe) and it got rid of a lot of issues. Still there's some hiss that I want to clean up that I think splitting effects on the loop feedbacker (along with the one or two noise supressors at start and end of the chain - or an ISP Decimator G String to do a similar thing) will fix up a lot.
ive just recently bought an xone92 + 2x traktor x1's and a scarlett 18i20 interface.. having real trouble trying to get it set up up my monitors and channels, do i plug the leads from my monitor speakers into the xone or interface?
Thanks, great tutorial on things I've never really tried with my Xone 92. Seems like you really know this mixer! Don't you find with the 92 the volume rises much too rapidly toward the top of the fader - it doubles in the last 1/4 or 1/5. I was thinking of selling it and getting an S8. Whats the effects routing like for that. I was thinking of buying an analog rytm and maybe A4 to use for live stuff along with remix decks and regular tracks.
+Pete Horam The Xone:92 has a logarithmic line fader whilst the Xone:62 has a linear line fader. In essence this means that the Xone:62 fader has an equal distribution of volume along the travel of the fader whilst the Xone:92 fader will have more of the volume distributed at the top of the fader's travel. In terms of feel, the Xone:92 fader is much lighter to the touch whereas the Xone:62 fader has more resistance.
Ean your musicianship is just ok, but you are possibly the best user of equipment in the world, at least one of the best I've seen. Your movements are inspiring. Keep it up. More performances please.
This is what we call a "backhanded compliment"; kind of an insult hidden inside a compliment. Musicianship is a matter of opinion and personal taste. Let's just say Ean is amazing at using the equipment, and a great instructor, and leave it at that. As a complete newbie, I personally really appreciate the time and effort that goes into making these tutorials that are so clear, informative and instructional. No backhand needed.
Tomas Morey i have sends and returns but dont think i have any knobs to control them... so in this case is it possible in any other way to control the through the mixer
Send me a draw with specs info, brands and models of your gear. I will have a look of your chances to perform. You can send to: www.iaei.eu or direct to tmorey@iaei.eu. Tomas Morey.
hello would you help my i got a DJM 750 AND A6 and 1 par of mk3 1000 and 2 x mk2 and i would like to know if there is any way to set up the 2 pioneer and 1 mk2 and the same mixer to play 4 chanel at the same time thanks and sorry for my bad inglish cheers mate
izzy de oca Well the Audio 6 only has three inputs and three outputs, so that'll be your max # of output channels from the soundcard. Does that make sense?
Thanks for the video Ean, do you (or anyone else reading this) have any idea whether it is possible to use analogue mixers (or even midi mixers such as DN-X1600) in external mode for traktor post fader effects? It does not seem like this is possible from what I have looked up :/
Thanks for the video, this is a really interesting experiment and visually exciting but what are the audible benefits over using traktors reverb and delay?
There are a couple. First, you have the option of a full-analog signal chain, which many techno DJs are very fond of. Second, you can use ANY EFFECT YOU LIKE. Traktor's reverbs and delays have a specific sound. Other reverbs and delays will have a different sound. Third, on the Xone 92 you have two return channels which allow you mix in the effects as if they were channels, something Traktor does not perform in the software.
guys plz helpl my face, I have a xone92 mixer and at the moment only my laptop with it (planning to get CDJ's very soon) , so i have a problem where after routing the laptop to the soundcard which has 1 output channel, i know i need at least 2 to mix but im using this to test the sound until i get another sound card. the one i have now is a focusrite(scarlett solo) so moving on the output from my SC goes into the line 2 channel on my xone92 which in turn is connected to the speakers ! now i have configured traktor's output to external recording and my input routing section just shows on the decks part Input 1 and 2, these are the only options besides the "not connected" one ! after all that still no signal on my monitor headphones or speakers and the LEDs show nothing ! PLEASE HELP ! stuck ! cant find solutions anywhere ! Thanks a lot !
Probably way late, but I'll answer since no one else bothered. From what you've wrote I don't have enough to tell the issue. Your sound card has one stereo output. That by itself is a left and a right channel. There are a few tricks you can do with internal routing on your computers side to try out mixing. For example pushing Deck A out the left side to channel 1 and Deck B out the right side to Channel 2 on your mixer to get a feel for mixing, but you'd obviously be mixing two mono signals so it wouldn't be a good test for sound quality. It sounds like you're having issues with basic sound coming in one channel and out the master to your speakers. Theres really not that much to it. The X92 is a really simple mixer. Once you confirm sound is coming out of your sound card on good cables and at a loud enough volume, make sure you have Line selected for whatever channel you plug the cards output into. At that point that channel should then light up providing that channel works and gain & volume are turned up.Once you see that channel lit, make sure your cross fader isn't also in the wrong position. If it's not, the master should light up too. Once that happens the out from the mixer should have sound. Good luck.
have some question to anyone... wouldn´t be the same using an analog mixer with integrated soundcard? for example any allen & heath with soundcard and analog mixer (xone 43c,, PX5, 4D....), offcourse talking about sound quality... using 4 traktor channels, with high level blah blah.... i mean it always will have to go through the usb cable somehow... using external or any soundcard... obviusly the RME has an amazing quality, but, well... PRICE!.... i wanna know if its "necesary" the external soundcard to hv really good quality, talking about "afordable" soundcard... focusrite... NI audio 10.... Anyone? thx