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Advanced Game Analysis - GM Ben Finegold - 2014.01.29 

Saint Louis Chess Club
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Grandmaster Ben Finegold presents a lecture for advanced players at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis.

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@DWeirich76
@DWeirich76 9 лет назад
Me vs. Ben Finegold: Ben lived in Michigan. I lived in Michigan (college in Flint) Ben lived in Belgium. I've been to Belgium. Ben is a grand master. I like pizza.
@abdirahmandama2061
@abdirahmandama2061 8 лет назад
lol
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 лет назад
+The Business lol
@Bigassboya
@Bigassboya 7 лет назад
The Business Ben also likes pizza
@cartrinity
@cartrinity 7 лет назад
The Business the sicilian is his favourite pizza
@zogzog1063
@zogzog1063 7 лет назад
Nice. :-> (Ben might like pizza too?)
@ansonzachariah680
@ansonzachariah680 6 лет назад
Even grandmasters miss king to b2.
@matthewerickson2006
@matthewerickson2006 7 лет назад
how am I just finding this guy? I like chess again now. Suspicious!
@xDMrGarrison
@xDMrGarrison 5 лет назад
rawr!
@isithardtobevegan53
@isithardtobevegan53 5 лет назад
Matthew Erickson very dubious
@matijaslat2100
@matijaslat2100 4 года назад
very
@samtesh2900
@samtesh2900 4 года назад
Just finding this guy? Terrible
@fengardice
@fengardice 7 лет назад
34:51 "In 19... 87, I was playing in the New York Open against Jay Whitehead, rest in peace, and... (he was alive then, when he played me)"
@thekkl
@thekkl 9 лет назад
He's so deadpan it took me a second to realize he was joking about Houdini suggesting resignation.
@TheClassicWorld
@TheClassicWorld 8 лет назад
+Matthew Helm Yeah, I don't think it ever suggests resignation haha.
@coreydallmeyer67
@coreydallmeyer67 5 лет назад
Hilarious when he talks about resigning so much.
@johnrubensaragi4125
@johnrubensaragi4125 Месяц назад
They don't suggest resignation, but they can show which side seriously messed it up. In computer chess competitions, chess engines "resigned" when their evaluation is below a certain point.
@Bodyfcn
@Bodyfcn 10 лет назад
Finegold is GOLD, the best.
@Spiritbro77
@Spiritbro77 10 лет назад
I love GM Finegold's Lectures. He is highly entertaining.
@s.jackson4603
@s.jackson4603 10 лет назад
ben finegold - finding things "uh terrible" since 1969
@danielmanahan692
@danielmanahan692 10 лет назад
Great lecture as always. Can't fall asleep with Ben's commentary. Entertaining and informative. the best way to remember a lecture. now if I can just remember all this for my games.
@hiddenlight5630
@hiddenlight5630 2 года назад
Just wondering Are you alive?
@Athenian888
@Athenian888 9 лет назад
Lovable,educational,tremendously humoristic. :)
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 лет назад
+Athenian888 Good, yes. Correct, yes. :-)
@seanc457
@seanc457 9 лет назад
Paul Whitehead was actually my first chess teacher back in ~1999. Never thought I'd hear his name again!
@amoebawithlegs1032
@amoebawithlegs1032 5 лет назад
just imagine that Ben is perpetually eating pizza. while he talks, while he analyzes, while he moves the pieces on the analysis board, everything. Even when hes not eating pizza. everything he says will suddenly make so much more sense.
@coreydallmeyer67
@coreydallmeyer67 5 лет назад
I've never even met this guy, but I love him
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 7 лет назад
46:42. "What's the best defense for white?" "Kb2 [from h1]." "Yeah, I agree. That's probably the best defense." Hahaha
@gishena
@gishena 3 года назад
But your rook is hanging!
@achintya4094
@achintya4094 5 лет назад
First time I learned something looking at a fine gold lecture...
@williamjohnson6588
@williamjohnson6588 7 лет назад
Holy shit! Iskandar went to my high school. I remember how he would win chess tournaments like the state chess tournament. Crazy to see him mentioned in a video series I watch so much.
@pgoedde
@pgoedde 10 лет назад
more Ben pls !!!!
@johannorman3067
@johannorman3067 10 лет назад
King to b2, lol. Thanks GM Finegold for another instructive and entertaining lecture and thanks to CCSC of Saint Louis as well.
@seheyt
@seheyt 6 лет назад
Cracked me up. His response is so deadpan. 46:42 in case others want to find it
@GuanTones
@GuanTones 5 лет назад
i have to give credit to the kid who played the first game for holding out so long.
@fadilhabibidanufane9593
@fadilhabibidanufane9593 5 лет назад
A draw by three repetitions of stalemate claim HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Genius!
@xojeme
@xojeme 5 лет назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@michaels4255
@michaels4255 2 года назад
"I don't have any good moves. Doesn't that make it a stalemate?"
@cmfox3
@cmfox3 4 года назад
Thank you Ben for your instructional masterpieces. I very much enjoy learning from you. Rarrr! :)
@misanthrop1958
@misanthrop1958 10 лет назад
I adore you, Mr. Ben Finegold.
@GrayzBDF
@GrayzBDF 2 года назад
Ben, you are GREAT at breaking things down . Thank you!
@dwx982
@dwx982 10 лет назад
Funny guy, I always find GM v's amateur games instructive. Thanks for the upload.
@Womanizer1122
@Womanizer1122 8 лет назад
haha this guy is like a semi comedian
@TexasSizzle
@TexasSizzle 10 лет назад
You are hilarious and awesome Ben! Keep it up brother.
@geogeo3733
@geogeo3733 4 года назад
19:46 Ben Finegold discovered the wooden shield before QVC, he just stole his idea. I guess that's why Ben hates him.
@fisheatsyourhead
@fisheatsyourhead 3 года назад
lol qvc
@dmaster20ify
@dmaster20ify 7 лет назад
Ben Finegold the boss!!! Been listening pure Ben Finegold since day.
@dmaster20ify
@dmaster20ify 7 лет назад
Draw by three fold stalemate claim!!!
@svenpoelmans3688
@svenpoelmans3688 5 лет назад
He played a move I expected, I couldn't believe it, that's deep
@chessbrahh2068
@chessbrahh2068 2 года назад
"Attack with all your pieces. And occasionally you should defend with some pieces too" -Ben Finegold
@siavashs1925
@siavashs1925 6 лет назад
amazing simpson`s reference, I think that was from season 2. old quote! Lisa Simpson:" Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you are referring to a pawn."
@f.d.3289
@f.d.3289 4 месяца назад
damn so happy to fnd more Ben Finegold lectures :) not quite as charming as him teaching a bunch of kids but just as entertaining and informative.
@sardinhunt
@sardinhunt 3 года назад
"Ahhh... I didn't see king F2!" I lost it completely, I laughed for 10 minutes.
@jaywolfenstien
@jaywolfenstien 5 лет назад
Wait a minute! *I* miscalculate everything! Hooray! I think like a Grandmaster!
@Parthasorenchess
@Parthasorenchess 5 лет назад
27:13 I have two bishops, two bishops and two bishops
@abielfletcher7662
@abielfletcher7662 Год назад
Love this guy teachings and jokes😂😂
@robappleby583
@robappleby583 6 лет назад
One of Ben's best.
@RodrigoHerrera111
@RodrigoHerrera111 10 лет назад
MORE BEN!!
@kunalmandalia1165
@kunalmandalia1165 9 лет назад
Rotating GM! :D
@albertvaldez2669
@albertvaldez2669 5 лет назад
A half chess master and a half comedian. I like Ben!!
@12jswilson
@12jswilson Год назад
Finegold channeling his inner Kasparov at 11:05 with Bd8 as in Ivanchuk v Kasparov, Linares 1991.
@baoboumusic
@baoboumusic 8 месяцев назад
Seirawan has also played this in several games and calls it the billiards shot if I remember correctly: bishop to the bottom cushion.
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 8 месяцев назад
​@@baoboumusic my joke was that Kasparov got crushed in that game with useless bishops, although the light square bishop was on e8, not c8. Probably the worst Kasparov has ever been beaten.
@baoboumusic
@baoboumusic 8 месяцев назад
@@12jswilson I'd forgotten about that! Be8 was an admission of failure - must have been painful to play. I definitely do remember the tournament though. Chukkie's best result ever. Beat Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand... It looked like the end of the Kasparov era and the start of a new era - it wasn't quite that but his achievement was one for the ages.
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 8 месяцев назад
@@baoboumusic playing Be8 and Bd8 is fine if you're just rerouting them a la Yasser. If they stay there and never move, I'm betting on the other guy. I don't care if you are arguably the greatest player to ever live.
@sanjaywagh9943
@sanjaywagh9943 10 лет назад
Bens lecture are toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good
@iDeathSparky
@iDeathSparky 2 года назад
It's so weird to hear "Let's call a random student" and not have it be followed up with "You!" or "Arjun!"
@Shylopaul
@Shylopaul 10 лет назад
Awesome.
@camreese
@camreese Год назад
19:35 wow forking two pinned pieces thats actually a new one for me
@agnelaaron1728
@agnelaaron1728 5 лет назад
I’m sorry but what’s between KEN west and finegold? Any reason why he keeps picking on him?
@leavethebasket7435
@leavethebasket7435 7 лет назад
ben has analyzed the first game before in the kids class.
@sublimeade
@sublimeade 11 месяцев назад
Why are comments open on Ben's game but closed off on that foxy GM"s game?
@aaronhowe3725
@aaronhowe3725 10 лет назад
"Women." Lol. Great instructive video trumped by comedic wit!
@vasya5006
@vasya5006 7 лет назад
31 he said its a the correct move but what if knight went to D7 forking both castles
@toelloev
@toelloev 10 лет назад
"Kb2 is probably the best move, yeah" hahah
@liver1865
@liver1865 9 лет назад
toelloev Super funny. Garenteed to keep you awake and in your chair(not in bed!)
@MrSilencetreatment
@MrSilencetreatment 8 лет назад
30:00 after Black playing Rb8, can white play Rxg4? if black plays hxg4 then Nd7 works as it is equal material and the a pawn woulod be hanging, so it works for white anyway. I am not sure because I haven't got a computer engine to analyse this. Any suggestions? I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance and thanks Ben , you are the best teacher ever.
@D3ck3rCain
@D3ck3rCain Год назад
How do you find gold? With Benjamin’s
@nizziozaphaux4398
@nizziozaphaux4398 8 лет назад
thank you very much, great lecture!
@gcgrabodan
@gcgrabodan 5 лет назад
What is the story of Ken Wesley? 0:50
@L4rken
@L4rken 10 лет назад
This is very entertaining! And I also think I learned something :)
@SampleMehard
@SampleMehard 7 лет назад
At 31.11 what's wrong the bishop e2? That's the move I blurted out when he ask. Some.one correct me and show me why plz
@j.prt.979
@j.prt.979 6 лет назад
Jeff Stelling No, that’s not the problem. The real reason why Be2 doesn’t work is because of Nd7 forking both Black rooks now that d7 is crucially undefended by the Bishop. It actually took me a moment to find that too because I knew that if Rd2 in response to Be2, then black would just move the bishop to b5 (which led to me finding Nd7 responding to Bb5 which led to me seeing that the Knight could go to d7 immediately instead of the useless in-between move Rd2). It’s a little sad too, because Be2 just looks so cool to play as it stops both Rc4 and Rook A takes a6 with a very invasive looking minor piece move. :p
@stevenhang9990
@stevenhang9990 8 лет назад
at 31:03, is it possible for white to go Rxg4 with a fork Nd7 in mind when hxg4?
@morallygray6527
@morallygray6527 5 лет назад
@jmoneyy1984 Not if you played Rxg4 lol then there's no bishop defending d7
@user-ts3ij7te6j
@user-ts3ij7te6j 5 лет назад
He plays rxb6
@nikhilmalik62
@nikhilmalik62 3 года назад
what is the name of the song in the intro?
@tothepoint4080
@tothepoint4080 3 года назад
best teacher
@omgpuppet
@omgpuppet 5 лет назад
This man is the Rodney Dangerfield of Chess
@MrGarugui
@MrGarugui 7 лет назад
Smart chess teacher. Thanks for sharing
@JohnnyBrutalUSA
@JohnnyBrutalUSA 10 лет назад
Aren't those half open files instead of open files? Great video. Ben Finegold is the best, but he has never beaten me.
@TexasSizzle
@TexasSizzle 10 лет назад
why because you haven't played him much?
@liver1865
@liver1865 9 лет назад
mcpartridgeboy it's Carlson okay?
@TheBackyardProfessor
@TheBackyardProfessor 5 лет назад
You are awesome! Yes, it strokes your ego, but so what? You are awesome. I enjoyed this video very much, thanks man.
@paulomartins5071
@paulomartins5071 7 лет назад
31:36 after Rb8 white to move Rxg4 if (gxf4 Nd7 Ra8 Nxf8 Kxf8 white slightly better) else (Rxb6 Rd4 white slightly better) though this line is tricky with time trouble because the game will require a lot of moves.
@orangebetsy
@orangebetsy 5 лет назад
What is the program being used here, where you can make proposed moves, see the resulting position, then return to the original position?
@STLChessClub
@STLChessClub 5 лет назад
Orange Betsy ChessBase!
@daleking8654
@daleking8654 8 лет назад
f**k kb2 is such a good move... (cracks me up haha)
@thankyouthankyou1172
@thankyouthankyou1172 5 лет назад
Ben is so funny, I love his tutorials
@augustgreig9420
@augustgreig9420 7 лет назад
Okay, here is a perfect example of something I always wonder about.At 13:42, if the knight on f2 was somewhere else, say h3, would black come out better to play 1....Nxe4 2.Bxe4 Nxc4+ 3.Kc3 Nxa3. I know that white can play Rxc4, but not only does that look bad for white, it is besides my point. Are the 3 pawns worth the night? You leave white with anisolated d pawn, and black has 3 passed pawns.
@maxpower9175
@maxpower9175 3 года назад
This dude is hilarious!
@mangeshmodak
@mangeshmodak 8 лет назад
at 43.57 instead of doubling rooks what if whit plays 1)N*e5 Q*e5, 2Nd7 .....forking rook and queen and then taking rook on f8
@eduardoayala3204
@eduardoayala3204 2 года назад
That's a beautiful position oh my god
@RossFigurepaintingCoUK
@RossFigurepaintingCoUK 5 лет назад
Someone please put out of my misery as I cant find the mate 45 minutes in when g2 x f3. If white defends with his Q he seems to end up with a solid defence and a good queen sided attack supported by the knight. Ben says its mate and he is never wrong but I cant see it!! E.g. g2 x f3, Rg8; Qb4 Qg7; Qe1. Doesnt that stop the mate? Even if black gets a rook to g2 cant white just ignore it? White maybe needs the Q on d1 to cover the knight sacrifice and he can just sit it out while he pushes his Queen side pawns supported by the knight. All black's pieces are now tied up out of the game. What move have I missed for Black? I've been looking for ages and its driving me nuts. Loving your lectures Mr Finegold and you are slowly draggin me out of retirement. Thanks.
@joeybtheman1906
@joeybtheman1906 6 лет назад
Love this guy!
@upplsuckimcool16
@upplsuckimcool16 3 года назад
29:43 anyone know why the knight is the only defense for A6? Ben says it's the only thing that defends A6.... what about rook A8 or Bishop E2? EDIT: ok maybe not rook to A8.... whoops ;D Also, bishop E2 would stop his rook to C4.... I must be missing something, there is no way that's too sneaky for ben to see, and I'm sure he's analyzed it with the computer.
@sylver76
@sylver76 6 лет назад
31:00 sequence. Did Ben overlook the fork on D7? Or am I missing something?
@kerseykerman7307
@kerseykerman7307 6 лет назад
Bishop would just take the knight on D7.
@dylan2009ist
@dylan2009ist 10 лет назад
Ben is great :)
@jamest4189
@jamest4189 Год назад
He randomly mentions Andrew Tate's dad Emory 22:41
@tellahsage6477
@tellahsage6477 Год назад
Emory Tate's a pretty famous player, most in chess know him. Saw his name mentioned in several books too
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 8 месяцев назад
​@@tellahsage6477there's a funny game between Emory Tate and Ben where Ben crushes him with the black pieces in about 20 moves. I want to say it was in ~2004. But yeah Emory Tate is probably one of the most notable chess players to never become a grandmaster, at least in the US.
@MrSabachtani
@MrSabachtani 10 лет назад
Wait... There is a Simpsons Episode about chess and I haven't seen it? What's the name of the episode?
@Majora1988
@Majora1988 9 лет назад
It's the season 2 episode "Dead Putting Society" Its just a line in the episode, its about Homer and Flanders getting competitive over a mini golf tourney.
@TheMrKlowb
@TheMrKlowb 9 лет назад
Josephus Mutzenbacher Bart: Hey, Lis, what do you call those guys in chess that don't matter?Lisa: Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you're referring to a pawn.Bart: Right, I am a pawn.Lisa: I know. It's times like this I'm thankful that Dad has little to no interest in almost everything I do.
@Manu-wb2uv
@Manu-wb2uv 7 лет назад
You're very entertaining Ben, but that's really bad for me because instead of learning actual chess I watch you like a TV show not trying to learn but being here only for your the jokes and the show from the table without trying to analyse by myself the infrastructure behind every move, decision.
@yahya89able
@yahya89able 6 лет назад
8:38 I take ur rook making a queen lool haha
@gxfr795
@gxfr795 3 года назад
‘Ah I missed Kf2’😂😂😂😂😂😂😭 like it was a refutation to the whole line
@ill-fire85
@ill-fire85 10 лет назад
what about defending the a pawn with bishop e2
@tutucox
@tutucox 3 года назад
best gm
@ill-fire85
@ill-fire85 10 лет назад
queen h4 is a good move because after rook to g2 queen can sack on h2 when rook takes back its mate on g1 with the rook
@lesterlesoine9225
@lesterlesoine9225 5 лет назад
Can you please provide the pgns for your avanced game analysis at the st. Louis chess club especially the game that appears the 10:34 ticker in the 50 minute video. It lcooks like an mirrored tit for tat stonwall defense. What is the opening called. Another chess player on RU-vid from the midwest 3jbenett on lichess is alsoan otb chess player at his checlub & regional tournament play. He gives live commentary durig his matches about his moves as well as his opponents He can tell within a few moves that is sicilian dragon variation, which openigs start out as a queen gambit accepted orva queen gambit declined. In the live game he seems to know on thevfly. This opebing becoms transposed into another opening with movinh a certain piece or a combination of moves. He suggested that I get modern chess openings by waler korn. Modern chess openings a blue book. They have openingsvwith a table showing a myriad of subsequent moves. The last book i bought in this vein was fundamental chess openings. I have fritz 15 &16. Ibwould love an app that has the counter noves to;the sicilian, kings Indian etc
@philipbourgeois6631
@philipbourgeois6631 Год назад
Far out, some of these checkmates are so technical
@toraczachara982
@toraczachara982 5 лет назад
9:57 Qxa2 is not that good move .... black could play Qa5 and force a trade of queens and win the pawn back later easily, or just Rxa2 Pxa2; Ka3 => Pawn can queen on a1, but is trapped and after 4 moves (Ke3, 0-0, Ke1, Kc2) the queen is forced to trade for a piece. Or there's something I don't see. I mean black can win the pawn on e4, but still, black loses a queen for a rook, a piece and a pawn.
@RickMerchantttt
@RickMerchantttt 8 лет назад
Super novice over here: how, at ~9:50 is black in a better position? Can someone explain the series of moves to follow? Thank you in advance!
@elmerfuddbb
@elmerfuddbb 8 лет назад
+RickMerchantttt If white captures the queen with rook, no defense promoting pawn (white essentially loses a rook) If queen trade, black wins a pawn Knight E4
@teamplayer2helper
@teamplayer2helper 8 лет назад
Rxa2 bxa2 and there is no way to stop both axb1=Q or a1=Q if you move the knight, then a1=Q geta queen back and you're up a rook. If qa5 you sinply take the knight, with rook and knight advantage
@tomzhangg
@tomzhangg 6 лет назад
20:05 I think that’s called the dirty doubling doodler
@draganaivankovic345
@draganaivankovic345 8 лет назад
Can you do a video about austrian defense please?
@Jan123.
@Jan123. 4 года назад
Nice!
@gnomemaster456
@gnomemaster456 10 лет назад
at 31:30 why cant the knight go to D7 and attack both rooks?
@VulpineShine
@VulpineShine 9 лет назад
bishop takes it
@ronaldvl636
@ronaldvl636 9 лет назад
VulpineShine I wonder if after ...Rb8 (attacking the white knight on b6) Rxb4 is good for White - if axb4 then the knight on b6 can jump to d7, forking the black rooks and if ...Rxb6 the white Rook can move back to d4 or c4.
@gaming2top759
@gaming2top759 8 лет назад
Good sense of humor :D
@jasonofathens2254
@jasonofathens2254 4 года назад
23:23 "..women", i spilled my milk
@sheikmanzoor5003
@sheikmanzoor5003 11 месяцев назад
In parallel universe Ken East is a super GM
@antoniofcovacamansilla8460
@antoniofcovacamansilla8460 10 лет назад
this guy rocks
@SleekMouse
@SleekMouse 4 года назад
43:34 would rook takes h2 be a good move here?
@daiwikschannel5864
@daiwikschannel5864 3 года назад
No
@puppycasey8883
@puppycasey8883 6 лет назад
This video is messed up and basically unwatchable after a few mins at the beginning
@jimwesbrooks4744
@jimwesbrooks4744 5 лет назад
Get a new computer dude
@gmstuart4897
@gmstuart4897 5 лет назад
Thats me!
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