Adventist Diet Study: BMI, Protein, and Bone Health Insights | Gary Fraser | The Proof Clips EP  

My strict SDA mother and sister Died early being a SDA doing more For God and got hell for it in reality. Read the inspired word and stop cherry picking. Jesus said to a fig tree why do you not grow leaves and cut it down. but, Jesus didn't know it was out of season is insane. when reading and not cherry picking finding a condoned genocidal rape molesting approving evil bible. Why priest ministers are child molester and be saved . but, if you have a problem believing your going to burn forever and ever because he loves you.

There is typically variance in study due to subjects under study and our study typically it is western study biased as it is in english and accessible on our platforms for communication. But just as much study is going on in other places of the world japan is notable, china I have even run across good studies out of iran, which we automatically discard as iran is our named enemy. Artic environments natives I think you would find a vastly different interpretation of BMI than the western findings even beyond those you mention. They simply are rarely studied. Your point is correct and fact.

Yep, sounds like a plan!

I participate very much in the exercising cohort, I was at a gym doing cardio yesterday the day before resistance, today chores to do no, but tomorrow yes, resistance again. The keto community is widely represented in the exercising community. Vegan is there but almost not a thing numbers considered. Vegetarians are not really represented to any distinction in that community. I was a participant in a study of a sort which identified a group of about 400 peoples body fat and all that, performance, we were tested extensively running resistance this and that.. Curiously the one vegetarian in that study was high level in body fat percentage a couple of vegans me one ,no. That despite not looking fat which I thought curious. Most exercised and most had a typical way above average level of fitness. I was single digit body fat at that time.. I was I guess in that 1 or 2% in the grouping. But most athletic types, are doing some form of keto or a regular diet. I think that would reflect in study perhaps to a off putting effect, producing a false read. A few vegan but probably representing the overall predominance of vegans in the community of Americans at large.

Meat pies, sausage rolls, dimmies, fish and chips, rissoles, and chiko rolls aren't American, haha...

For lowering he said poly. He said mono was neutral. He did not reference saturated to my hearing. Mostly nuts do not contain much saturated. Some do, small amounts typically, but not our commonly consumed ones by majority. Avocado it is not the nut we consume. Beans often do by large part, cacao , seeds as well may But did not hear him mentioning saturated in this context, could have missed ti I guess.

@@ronhumphreys3762 thanks, Ron. So I guess walnuts would be the best since they are polyunsaturated?

To his opinion. Personally, I think it is total expected effects from walnuts not just the fat type. Some say a balance of type of fats is optimal for health to include heart health Which I personally think may be best. .Saturated fat from animal source possibly excepted to that, most considering it still not heart beneficial to excess consumed. Monosaturated fats in oil under some study seem to benefit heart health more than polyunsaturated with a typical american type died. under study. It is not that polyunsaturated is bad, but some think to exclusion or vast majority, in diet ir produces negative effect. But that is just my personal opinion his statement infers that you mention.

@@ronhumphreys3762 thanks !

Just reply it and listen.....

You can take a vegan algae DHA supplement if it’s a concern.

Some say it isn't a concern. Dr. Klaper says it is. That vegan's should take one?@@anabolicamaranth7140

Well to add some cannot convert it efficiently, most can. But with age that declines. If really concerned, you can have a blood test specific to it done. My guess is most oldsters will be in low range. DHA EPA can be supplemented through fish oil or algae based oil, the second is more expensive by twice.

...... Thanks. Do you recommend vegans supplement?@@ronhumphreys3762

@@bradstell2146 I take them myself but my priority for complex reasons is optimal performance not just getting through the day. It probably does offer some benefits, though that line drawn is not certain. Some say cardioprotective some say neuroprotective, some claim one and deny the other. Neurologically is to my opinion the safer bet of benefit. So I would advocate for it,. But it does depend then on family history and what one intends with it. If older, If younger probably the conversion factor is intact, and anyone is probably getting enough to do the raw conversion from their base diet. If past the age of 60 my guess is not. But in any event one can get a test to see their status. It is reportedly quite correct and accurate, some tests are not remotely that. Or as it is pretty cheap with no major side effects you could just buy it and take it. I was not really strict at all about taking it till I was past 65.Now in my seventies it is one of my to take supplements and being vegan with no fish. No fatty fish is the prime thing as well, such people do not have to sweat this.

Did you listen to the entire ep?

I am in the overt camp of exercise use probably. But there is some evidence while we must do resistance and cardio each week with regularity, with weights less may be better. in the older age group. Don't listen to those docs or technicians! I a young kid of only 51 or so, injured my leg bicep doing deadlifts, following a other leg injury doing sprints, was told by a doc, your getting older, time to stop such things. I am still doing them occasionally getting injured, but in the main not from deadlifts. The effects of lowering BMI are dramatic and suffer almost every cardio metric. Which causes a lot to say...I took up keto or became vegan and it is wonderful all my reading are better my doc says so. What happened is they lost weight which improved it all to include insulin resistance if trending towards diabetes. BMI is not a good absolute indicator of things, every rugby player is probably high end normal or low end high. But does it mean a thing no. No one loses 40 pounds without losing some muscle it is just near impossible unless on performance enhancing drugs. So one of the readings were probably off a bit. NO matter as that progress is still quite remarkable, kudos for that. Muscle mass assists in insulin sensitivity and as well is pretty well a proven as to more being better within reasonable limits, to extend longevity. Vegan diet and muscle? Well a vegan diet with that as a design intention as a feature, it certainly can be done relatively easily. All serious athletes take supplements all. So that said, supplemental lucine (which can be vegan) creatine, and the addition of more protein to a vegan diet can absolutely equal a meat or dairy eaters diet. If you are of my weight I can almost guarantee you could not match every aspect of my workout and I am in my seventies vegan for the past thirty years plus..

There are curiously a vegan keto diet and as well a vegan Mediterranean diet type. Seems odd but you can fill the requirements of both when vegan but it does require study and supplementation to the keto end.

I am thinking grass is the problem, not only cause it's not good for soil and making other edible plants less nutritious, but the part that's edible is rubbish. Legume or even yam, maybe Jerusalem artichoke, etc the the starch seems to be resistant, but not with grass seed. Even eating animal product, fed on 60% legume, 40% herb, is so much better for the soil and the animal product, than like grass fed. The points you make are pretty valid

​@@ronhumphreys3762those injuries probably happened due to build up of scar tissue that broke. If you had been doing deep massage to break it up, so there was less and healthier scar tissue, in combination with what you were doing, most likely the injuries wouldn't have happened

@@brucejensen3081 Injuries always happen if you are training at max effort. Most people never ever do that. But in a specific manner done it precipitates human growth hormone incitement, which in this manner stimulated is beneficial. 20 peoples working out I see probably one going to max effort, and that in a young cohort. Older my age, close to no one does. Some go their whole lives working out but never ever once go max effort. That can be in sets reps or in max weight. Injuries they are nothing special nor unusual and are simply things you work around. You attach to them as special things and they will not get better. Their presence is actually reinforced by talking about them. Now a serious debilitating injury due to working out is typically a training fault or some underlying human systemic issue. If say you have a glucose imbalance or a cancer or kidney disease or liver disease injuries are going to precipitate if you work out. But normal injuries are just worked around keeping the essential movement muscles intact as much as possible but trying to exclude just the muscle with injury. I have a very slight glut tear presently. But I can squat just fine, kick the heavy bag no. So I squat which works the glut but stay away from the kicks for a two week time. More serious injuries you may have to lay off a specific movement much longer say a year or so, but when that is over quite often that may be engaged. Our physiologies change with age I used to sumo deadlift when young now a close in form is best. Sometimes movements that precipitate injuries repeatedly are just better off abandoning. I don't do some shoulder movements; they just don't work for me but other shoulder movements work just find. They produce equal shoulder use results, however. Flexibility within the wiork out, is the thing as one gets older.

Anaphalaxis is limited to peanuts, I think.

Three things affect longevity by necessity community diet and exercise. Seventh day are or were in this age group typically working class at functional jobs doing things for activity. They have community support with their religion, so two out of the three are there Diet this study shows then probably a optimal regard for all types of diet with longevity. consideration. This is a study on diet but it does not mean diet is it, or even mostly it. Peoples I think are confusing that. A great diet no community support particularly in old age, and no exercise, unless genetically gifted ,you probably will not live that long comparatively as these do.

We don't think of work as activity but it is. A close relative was a mail man, working class. All day every day at work he was getting in and out his truck moving packages. Which is 8 hours at it, every bit exercise. Those are the jobs adventists do. We see only their docs or researchers typically. Most have jobs like that, physical.

They are religious and follow their doctrines. This means that they rarely backslide into bad habits.

Well, continue not to eat them then, solved! Anyone that knows that they are allergic and then eats them after listening to him say they're good, probably deserves to eat them. It's called culling the herd via natural selection of the weakest (in intelligence, I mean).

Chicken I get, but kefir has some of the best probiotic components that rival Natto. That'd be hard for me to give up too.

@@2snipe1 hmm thanks for the information about the benefits appreciate it then I might still use it for the benefits

Best source of zinc in a vegan compatible diet would be pumpkin seeds. I make sure to eat them consistently.

There are plant based yogurts with active cultures. My fav is by Forager sold under the Trader Joe's brand. Plain and unsweetened, which makes a good substitute for sour cream.

Google plant based foods with iron. If you consume foods with vitamin C in the same meal, it would help with absorption.

Usually they recommend a fist length away !

@@TheProofWithSimonHill Try a Pop Filter

Yes it can I just came from a discussion last week with a vegan stating anyone who was not that was morally deficient. Well I am vegan as it is easy for me to do. But others animal specific may run shelters for no profti where they car for animals and/or do the same for humans. They are far superior to my opinion with my very minor thing of diet I may engage. To our defense however I find those type of vegans are the type that are here today but drop it nest year. Long term vegans I think they are more realistic about it. It seems to attract zealotry which is not usually sustainable in practice long term.

@@ib3691 That's the truth. On the more general point, the video clip does not cover diet's effect on personality traits but focuses on the perhaps more important issue of health and lifespan. Perhaps the person making the original comment could focus on that instead of making pointless, cheap jibes?

@@AndrewPawley11 Well yes. There curiously are studies I have ran across in the psychological field studying the nuances of veganism to depression and personality. It is quite interesting. I take away from that body of work not so much the specifics, but that diet does affect personality and things then like depression, found by personality type. I curiously first ran across that personally with fish. I fed them live shrimp they behaved more aggressively than not live foods. I was not vegan at that time, now I do not have fish. Last one was eaten by a snake, which oddly I then accidently ran across when cutting grass lost in the weeds. Karma, I think, the fish was important to me though I did not purposely kill the snake. Works in odd ways that. ;) I was late at night in a deserted part of town at a blind intersection (brick buildings at all corners).with a stop light. I stopped completely , but had a green light. it was a unconscious thing I did not notice anything.. A car a moment later, barreled through that intersection at high speed running the red light. Ok odd that. But a week or so later that vehicle, it was a work vehicle, was involved in almost the same type wreck and totaled. It was like fated for that ;) Bringing me to that thought, things do not replicate exactly present events to future ones or past to present, but they certainly do have a rhyme to them both. A theme perhaps

I don't personally believe in a creator god nor a personal god, so am not meaning that.many do it is not for me.

Geez, you obviously don't visit "Carnivore" channels then, do you....