what lengths exactly? this wasnt a random city he attacked, it belongs to one of Rhaenyra's allies, so it makes sense from a strategic pov, aegon himself wanted to assault harrenhall just a few episodes back and the blacks/daemon wouldnt have any problem burning the riverlands if they were to reject him, so this reaction from aegon makes no sense, it just another case of the writers having no idea wtf they're doing
@@marius1445It was strategic, but it would have been more logical to just seize the castle. Sharp point was a very small city, and they didn’t really pose any threat to the greens. Aemond was both angry and scared due to not having a clear advantage as of now, and he needed something to take his frustrations out on. Sharp Point was likely one of the first things he saw flying back to King’s Landing, and that something was comprised of mostly innocent civilians living in the city.
@@Demetrix24 seen it mate. He’s Percy Hotspur. Also in Dunkirk, and SAS hero’s. Knew he was a decent actor. But as Aegon he really has gone to another level
I'm Team Black and Team Helaena but my god, Tom is fantastic as Aegon 🖤 To be fair all the casting is incredible for both green and black sides 💚 🖤 Even characters like Larys, cast perfectly. It will be cool to see Aegon get to ride Sunfyre again, 🤞
Just look at his terrible circumstances and you can understand why he has lost the will to live. He has to live with third degree burns, is forever crippled, disfigured, has to spend his days bedridden and can no longer even enjoy the pleasures of sex. All he has left in the world is the feeling of importance and power of being king. And now he is about to lose even that.
@@chrisrubin6445what, you just NEED to see Aemond roasting a town of like 5,000 people the audience has never heard of? What would’ve been the point of that?
@@alanfulcher460 may as well ask "what was the point of the Rooks Rest scene? why not have all that happen ofscreen and then we hear them talk about how Rhaenys is dead now and Aegon is burnt?" The point is that this is a dragon show and we want to see it when the dragons do things!
Aegon is actually the most compelling character on the show. The actor does a great job portraying this tortured wicked individual. Somehow he makes me empathize with him.
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN “you’re not alone” made me laugh my ass off. Hey man look on the bright side, at least you’ve got a psycho killer dungeon master on your side
“Take me to my throne…” Love this small glimpse of Aegon’s devastating willpower that show viewers will get to witness later on. Even suffering in existential despair and suffering physically from severe wounds, Aegon wants to ascend his throne and dispense the King’s justice to Aemond once and for all. Vhagar be damned!
@@diogogarcez9519 good point, it shows how his determination and willpower can blind him and hopefully the show writers bring this back up after his second dragon duel. Didn’t even consider what would happen with Vhagar until Larys reminded him.
@@diogogarcez9519 what you see his stupidity ? i only see broken,betrayed man left by his own fam to die after they forced him in postion he never wanted but took to protect them and this is how they pay him back...
Its crazy that larys is reasoning with aegon that his brother will kill him after he tried to burn him already. Larya himself roasted his father and brother.
@@silvertrees6421 didn't really want to spoil anything, in the books, Aegon takes Dragonstone while Rhaenyra is in King's Landing. She returns, unaware that he's taken the place, and he confronts her, and importantly, her son, Aegon the younger, with Sunfyre. He feeds her to Sunfyre, but lets her son live. After Aegon dies, heirless, Aegon the younger is next in line for the throne. He's wed to Aegon the elder's daughter, reuniting the house. Thing is, Aegon the younger, now Aegon III, remains scarred for life after the dance, especially from watching Sunfyre eat Rhaenyra alive, and is anything but a fan of dragons. He doesn't actively seek to see them killed or anything, as far as we know. He does, however, come to be known as "Aegon the Dragonbane" anyway, as they decline significantly under his rule. There's reason to believe a conspiracy was involved, but regardless, the King's lack of care for the dragons facilitated their decline, and ultimately deprives the house of the dragon of their titular dragons. The last of the dragons dies under his reign. So, Sunfyre's survival directly leads to the decline of Targaryen supremacy through the dragons, which is a major catalyst for the events of ASoIaF. Killing him off isn't a minor story change, it's a pivotal moment in the history of Westeros: A Targaryen regent, killed by a dragon. That's anything but insignificant.
Yeah Aegon is definitely the true underdog of the Dance of Dragons. He basically got written off by everyone, including his own faction. Spoiler: But at the end of the day it was Aegon rather than Aemond, Alicent or Otto who defeated Rhaenyra.
@@alanfulcher460 He outlasted Rhaenyra and was regarded as the legitimate King by subsequent rulers. Notably even Aegon the Younger styled himself as Aegon the Third, despite being Rhaenyra's son. So even though the Greens technically lost, they did at least succeed in getting everyone to admit Aegon the Second had the better claim.
@@NCD3000-fp9ix yeah but I’m saying, he got burned alive, broke his legs, his whole family gets murdered, HE gets murdered a month into his reign, daughter commits suicide. A Phyrric victory if there ever was one. Becoming king was by far the worst thing to ever happen to him
@@jacintos850 Yeah but don't forget, D&D shortened seasons 7 and 8 and took 2 years to finish season 8 and it's still shit. The big difference here is George already told this story so the showrunners know how to end it. George fucked over GoT because his ass could not be bothered to finish any books after 2011.
@@Ratchetface that is fair and true, im just hoping at least he finishes winds of winter so everyone knows what the fuck happens I the books already lol
@Ratchetface heck, I'd want him to start on. I dream of spring before he passes away lol, we as people don't even trust other writers to finish his story like that
@Ratchetface but you must also remember he was a producer and assistant director during the seasons too, so over looking everything practically not having time to finish his book is one or a couple of the biggest things he had to do
And Aegon actually valued Aemond in a way. Sure he was a jerk to him, but he allowed him on his small council meetings and was almost heavily dependent on him and Vhagar. If Aemond really wanted the bullying to stop, he should’ve just punched Aegon in the face real hard. There is no justification to Aemond wanting his own brother dead.
That's what you get for usurping the throne 😢 Aemond will meet his fate too, they all will, and it will be sad to watch when the Dragon pit get stormed by the common people.
@@chandamumba4040 Aegon never wanted the throne. He even tried to run away from everything, but his mother and grandfather forced him to take a throne he didn’t want and had to literally hold him down kicking and screaming in order for him to relent.
Aegon doesnt get as much credits as he deserves , most thinks he is an idiot driven by his desires , the fact of the matter he is smart but inexperienced to lead , he just needed time to get the experience , he didn't have the drive to do it , but he was never dumb , he was smart enaught to refuse the throne at first , and he is smart enaught to listen to smart council , which will make him prevail .
@@Nickname-ef9tv tbf, minus the rat catchers, Aegon has been pretty open to advice and went along with what Otto told him despite his personal unwillingness, including the funeral progress for Jahaerys. He even asks for Alicent’s advice after she tells him that he should seek their counsel but gets insulted instead. Aegon became smart and increasingly driven since his coronation and the assassination of Jahaerys but he remains surrounded by people who still care very little about him second to only Viserys in that regard.
For fuck sake dont kill Sunfyre in the show. He lives after Rook's Rest in the books. Dont spoil the most beautiful dragon. Everyone is awaiting to see him fight again with moondancer.
@@coys-x3f tbf the whole feminism thing is more the writers weird biases and world view then it is george. Same writer who thinks rhaenrya gaining weight after 6 pregnancies is sexist propaganda by jealous men lol
Aegon with dead eyed 1000 yrd stare: "Aegon the Relms Delight." Me an aspiring psych major: "I'm gonna need you to expound on that. This is fascinating."
@@cromandum217 SPEALL Gotta love how so many people on the net like to play the spelling police but then trip up themselves, almost like there are a lot of reasons why typos happen online no matter what one’s education level might be.
So what you want about Larys. He made some good points. 1) Aegon wouldn't stand a chance agianst Rheanyra without Vhager- who wouldn't be rideable unless they just killed Aemond. 2) Rhaenyra/Aemond will likely get themselves killed, then Aegon can return to end the war. 3) Aegon fleeing would still leave him alive. I do However understand how Aegon feels he's got no life, especially without his castle/throne which he has been accustomed to/ grew up thinking were his birthright.
in books he at least had son something to come back to in show he had no point of fight and come back it is pointless and writers did it by erasing characters it make no sense for him to come back
Notice the simularity between Aegon and Otto here: Otto hanged Rhenyras loyalists during the coup in quite a public place in RK despite of them being honorable and innocent people, believing it won't be of much consequence if they succed in crowning Aegon and gaining most of Westeros and that it'll be easy to either dispose of Rhenyra or persuade her to submit, but was furious at Aegons summary collective punishment of the ratcatchers, due to how reckless, thoughtless and impulsive it was. Aegon, in his anger, dissatisfaction with Ottos strategies and short-sightedness, thought that there wouldn't be consequences since his faction could play it off as a grief-stricken father making mistakes out of grief and he was at a position where he was safe from the smallfolks retaliation. But now, he recognises Aemond as mad for commiting such a reckless atrocity for something so petty and provoking Rhenyra who now overmatches them severely. When he says, ,,What is the point of all of this", I think he believes that the war is lost and regrets it and his crowning, as they are about to be crushed despite their efforts and crimes and no matter what he does, he will be disgraced.
Good points my friend and so many people forget that Aegon never wanted to be King. Remember, he was the only one smirking when Viserys entered the throne room to reaffirm Luc as heir to Driftmark. He just wanted to drink and whore himself to an early grave. The only company he ever enjoyed and the only thing he ever truly loved was Sunfyre. Aegon is such tragic character, brilliantly portrayed in the show.
Larys was too smart for this. Dude legitimately realised when he said “I’ll take my brother prisoner “ man must’ve wanted to laugh at his grave stupidity but felt the need to explain to him like a child that it’s over dude your brother fuxked up everything.
@@cautarepvp2079 lmfao Naah he you gotta kill him at this point before he murders everyone. Little bro is insane even his mother is horrified by his actions mans own sister even said she ain’t burning no one lol.
@@cautarepvp2079well he could arrest him but then they don’t have Vhagar for their defense. Vhagar is literally the only reason the blacks haven’t laid waste to the greens.
Can we talk about how Aegon just didn't even think of taking Aemond prisoner? And depsite what Larys said, he wants to take him prisoner and NOT hurt him or kill him? You can't tell me he doesn't love his brother still, despite all. I wonder if there's some chance for then to reconcile because Aemond for sure will regret his burst of anger
@@tiffles3890Well what evidence do you have?? The book you are talking about isn't exactly a POV style story book like ASOIAF but a history written by an arch maester of the citadel in old Town which naturally has a lot of biases false information and missing pieces of information
@@niladrimukhopadhyay9360 Yes and it's still more "canonical" than shownly nonsense. On top of that, if we bring the gist if your reasoning to it's logical conclusion, then basically anything goes and almost nothing is canon. Which is a load of nonsense.
@@niladrimukhopadhyay9360In the books, after Aemonds death, Aegon has statues of him erected in his honour. Would you do that for someone who tried to kill you and burn you to a crisp?
“Aegon the realm’s delight”, something tells me aegon’s going to become batshit insane in season 3, would defo explain the famous act he requests a certain dragon to do late in the dance. 😭
@@kitb7624 It's just a sardonic statement. He is disfigured and has no friends at court. It's funny to imagine him being adored by the masses as the title would imply
I'm sure they read up on how Larys Stong succeeded and how he failed in the end. Perhaps both Baelish and Varys had imagined that they weren't prone to errors, which orlf course they were. One got his throat cut, and the other was set ablaze.
@@ninshusensei412 of course it has to be mentioned, the whole theme of the show is gender, which means it’s very important if the current king cannot sire anymore children, and also since maelor isn’t in the show they make it clear no more children will be born from his line.
I didn’t expect to like Aegon as much as I do now. He’s a very real character sometimes, minus the whole making his bastard children fight part but still
he did not make his kids fight in fighting pits they were so random kids and we saw only one silver haired boy sitting on side may be his but maybe not his and it was said by Erryk who Aegon as he said himself loose him because he didn't want him to follow him so Erryk may talk shit to convince Arryk to switch to Rhaenyra
I really, REALLY fucking hope that somehow, we get more Aegon/Aemond scenes. Tom & Ewan have such great chemistry together and I wanna see Aemond be confronted by his older brother for what he did to him. If we can get 14 non-canonical Rhaenicent scenes in the show goddamnit, then we can get Aegon & Aemond meeting again, and NOT just in Harrenhal visions.
Aegon the Realm's Delight. Not gonna lie but that title should be reserved to Aegon V "Egg" Targaryen had his plan to make the Small Folks' lives better work.
Sunfyre is indeed alive or barely alive, but in Aegon's mind, Sunfyre died on Rook's Rest. Pretty sure Aegon would tear up once he reunited with his dragon is S3. I mean Sunfyre is the closest being to Aegon really compared to his relationships with his family
The shot of sharp point makes no sense according to the Westeros map. There should not be mountain on the right side of the screen. Should be the narrow sea
His suffering made him the most interesting character in the show imo. Showing a character at thier worst is what makes us root for them when they rise to power.
Aegon’s genitals getting mutilated in Rook’s Rest is consistent with the books tho. The show writers fucked up a lot of things but this isn’t one of them.
@mahirabrar9110 in the books they say that aegon still had desires he just couldn't get it up. You can't really have desires if you have nothing there.
why Aegon mock himself ? when this is his POV and why he lost his manhood when he have still job to do like making Maelor and alliance with Baratheons ,did writers forgot ?
Someone said that Sunfyre in the books went into hiding after the battle at Rook's Rest. Maybe something similar happened here and they're just not aware yet that he's alive?
personally I hope he isn't dead and even Aegon has been mislead. Don't know if we should be too hopeful for that, tho. It's always said that Aegon and Sunfyre have the deepest bond of all riders with their dragons. Aegon can be pretty dumb, but he should technically be able to feel it when Sunfyre is still there
Spoilers**** After the battle of Rooks rest, green army left Sunfyre at the castle with some men to defend him, some black loyalists got to know about this and they went on to finish Sunfyre, Sunfyre however burned them all, while in a dead state and then left the castle and hid in the forests, survived on eating animals. Realm thought that he was dead until Aegon 2 heard from some sailors that they saw a dragon battle from a far and in the shadows they saw Grey and Gold colour colliding, Aegon knew it was his dragon, he took his few loyalists he was with to the point of the battle and there he reunited with Sunfyre, it was very emotional in the books and let's hope it'll be the same in the show as well. Sunfyre IS NOT dead and his story is going according to the books only.
I hate what they did to Aemonds character in season 2. They made him a full fledged psychopath who has no self control or loyalty to anyone. Which is ironic because in season 1 his whole personality was built on duty and loyalty to his own 💀 In the books Aemond is loyal to team green until his end. Did the writers have him burn Aegon just for shock value and childhood teasing? The problem with shock value decisions is it cheapens characters and plot lines. Now how are they going to make him more human in the future considering how deranged he’s acted in season 2?
"Well then, when Rhaenyra descends on you with her seven dragons, and you without Vhagar, what then?" I was expecting something like "Larys. Friend. They dragged me back literally kicking and screaming to make me King. I didn't want this even before the Sausaging. Do you think I want it now? Let me tell you what's then. I stay here to greet Rhaenyra. She takes this damn crown. The war ends early. You guys can all flee to Essos or whatever."
I think he has some pity for Aegon- he himself is a cripple, and it’s rare to see someone genuinely worse off than he is, at least amongst the highborn. And on top of that, Larys is aware that he needs allies. Any blood family he has left hates him and nobody at court trusts him, for obvious reasons, and although he made a play to get into Aemond’s good graces at first, that backfired, and Larys realizes he needs to gtfo of dodge before Aemond hauls off and has him killed. Physically Aegon is frail, but obviously there are people that support his cause, and if it Aemond and Rhaenyra kill each other in the war, then Aegon can swoop in and take the throne, and Larys would be very generously rewarded with power, wealth, and influence, likely by being named Hand. And bc of Aegon’s frailty, it would fall to the Hand to essentially rule the country, just like Otto ruled when Viserys became increasingly ill. So it’s not so much that Larys cares about Aegon, but he does pity him, and he could be an important ally and vehicle to his own power.
3:54 I wonder why aegon wants himself to be called "The Realm's delight". Is that an indirect dig towards Rhaenyra? Since she too was called the realms delight in her teenage years. Guess he wants to usurp his sister's name as well😂
I read it more as a fairly dark, self-deprecating joke. He is despairing over his ruined penis and is obviously, feeling emasculated. 'The Realm's Delight' is a title he associates with women, via Rhaenyra, and so he's probably thinking someone along the lines of 'well, I guess we're both women now.' I don't think he literally wants that title at all.
That's some show only bullshit, plenty of Targaryens died to fire (Aegon the Uncrowned, Aerion Brightflame, Rhaenyra, everyone at Summerhall (Aegon V, Vaella, Duncan the Small). Also Viserys was killed by molten gold being poured on top of head, not by fire, pretty sure that would kill Daenerys too. Also keep in mind, the older a dragon gets, the bigger they get, the hotter their flames get (Balerion's flames were hot enough to fuse sand into glass, and they were hot enough to completely burn away quicksilver, another dragon) and the harder their scales get (Balerion's scales were so hard, scorpion bolts just bounced off of him).
Based off of Vhagar’s behaviour since Driftmark, her history and how she wanted to smoke TB’s entire squad of dragons despite the odds, Vhagar seems to be as bloodlusted as Aemond if not more.
Why do i think larys is the reason of the dragon pit storming haha Aegon has dead /cripled dragon whether sunfyre is alive or not it wouldnt change a thing that Rhaenyra has more dragons than Aegon so to deduct rhaenyras dragon to the equation larys made a way to get rid of the dragons in dragon pit
After finale TG do not exist anymore writers assassinated it with character assassination and relations assassination so now they have what they wanted dull TB and now they will have to make them villain just to make something interesting since greens will not be there to since the day
Aemond is superior to him and Rhaenyra’s bastards in every way. He’s better educated, he’s stronger, he’s faster, he’s taller, he’s a better swordsman, a better dragon rider, he even speaks Valeryion better
@@starlight23-dj9jhthank god for this comment. The amount of people I see confused over this obvious metaphor has me severely concerned for what kind of audience this show is attracting.
